Making Our Rudder Orca-proof (Figuratively, We Hope) | Step 424

[@kinbailey310]

You know what I really love about you guys is you don't half-ass things. A lot of boat reno/repair channels have a "should be ok," or "its good enough" attitude. You guys rock it out and make everything excellent.

[@nickperspective]

Uma, the best Pearson 36 in the world. Your build quality is just amazing. Love your teamwork. Who knew 21 minutes of glasswork and foam making could be this interesting. Orca's of the world beware!

[@gadiantonx8474]

for us 21 min they skipped 95% of it

[@kamencic]

I like how you two function as a team. It's really pleasing to watch.

[@TraneFrancks]

It's impressive how well you work together. All these years of both the relationship and learning how to work on the boat has made you collectively quite the force.

[@richardkerby5311]

Thank you for being one of the only sailing tubers that offer knowledge and how to for things the average sailors can use in their boat life

[@juhani5394]

most of the people are just doing what they can. But Dan and Kika are doing just what they want.

[@Gregemio]

Uma 2.0 is going to a BEAST.... in the most beautiful way!!! I can not wait to see her hit the water!!!!!

[@beestingza]

I've noticed all the naysayers who said they should just buy a new boat have either been converted to believers or went to go bother someone else.

[@nataliemoss1314]

One thing I “highly” suggest is to take barrier coat and paint the inside of your rudder tube before the install. I did the same repair a few years ago and now I have blisters in the tube.

[@rickwatson1000]

One of the Best teams on KZbin

[@SimonCurlis]

Dan! PPE dude (flap sanders in tubes produce bad FRP dust), remember childeren are watch ing and we wanty to keep you around so we can live vicariously through your adventures. Great teamwork there are no easy jobs, but you make doing things well look so much more possible and the craftsmanship you display is admirable. the attention to detail and long term maintenance thinking are great. Beautiful example of resue from teh boat to teh eaxcess resin in the rudder skeg void. Keep on keepin' on,

[@glencrandall7051]

I couldn't see where all that foam was going until you showed reinstalling the rudder. All that rudder work looks great. Thank you for sharing. Have a great 2025 and stay safe.🙂🙂🙂

[@robbief1]

Thanks You guys are the GOATS, The OG of sailing vids. Thanks for the entertainment over the years. Your perseverance on this build impresses me to no end.

[@lorentosi]

No storytelling, no drama no action ..only and always fiberglass

[@GreenWitch1]

Another great episode with Dan in pretzel position 🥨

[@naomisee789]

You two have grown into a wonderful team. Creative, knowledgeable, resourceful. efficient, proficient, kind, supportive, patient cooperation - the result of years of work. Beautiful to watch even if it is mostly fiberglass for now. 😙 Your new Uma is going to be AWESOME!!! 🤩

[@epilz1978]

I admire your craftsmanship and patience. Great video!

[@stevespell9634]

Oops 100% over sized that rudder tube hole. Should have been tapping that into a tight interference fit hole. 🤔😃😃😃 Love your vids please never stop. You are both an inspiration ☺️

[@cutaway7405]

Wow that rudder assembly looks like jewelry! (Not easily worn around the neck!😂)....What a team you make!! Dan Congratulations, you won the annual "Skrench Knee Squatting" award!!!💜🥂......Love how you Improve jobs as you work work on Uma, Well Done you 2!!!🎉❤

[@tomriley5790]

Love how Dan smiled when he hefted the new rudder mount onto the table, like here's the cool new part I'm putting on my boat. Dan and Kika's workmanship is always excellent, by the time Uma's finished she'll effectively be a brand new boat and far better built that pretty much any other.... Beautiful job on that rudder!

[@richardwallinger1683]

In the 1970,s I used the twin pack expanding foam for my pour in seating in my 1980 GT championship winning GROUND EFFECTS race car . I had to smile when I saw how much of the liguids Kika was mixing .

[@twoeagledrones]

Dayum, that rudder looks AMAZING!🤙🏻

[@Ghost_Recon_Actual]

Great video. Uma is going to be a floating tank with all the work you've done on her. Thanks for posting.

[@timallen6025]

Don’t know if you read these comments ( and there are so very many fans rooting for you 😊👍) but fyi I moved the weird raked rudder on a P26 and built a new rudder around a S/S stock n tangs but the kicker is that I laminated a solid rudder tube from hull to cockpit floor with MASSIVELY tabbed bonding top n bottom. Honestly you could probably pick the boat up with a chain around that post . Add in a waterproof bulkhead in front ( which I did not) and you are in Orca++ territory , with the option to drop the rudder with a line tied to the top and then repair at sea ..worst case! Plan for crap and hope for the best sailing

[@PorscheSpeedster-kz6nc]

Love the work on the refit. Can’t wait to see you guys back on the water!

[@CharlesJWillard]

You might want to try pretending to steer with a sacrificial oar. The orca grabs the oar and takes off, hopefully happy.

[@carsoncambodia]

Great episode. Learned heaps

[@adampope261]

This video has inspired me to refurbish my rudder and skeg and I don't even own a boat...

[@bigchief4044]

lol…

[@barryinkpen6026]

Once again you guys impress me with your planning, logistics, and execution!!! You are pro's for sure now.!!

[@DMTuefel]

Can’t wait for you guys to splash. All my favorite channels are land lovers at the moment lol.

[@Winging-it-1000]

Woooo Doggie! Lookin Great! Love the work and the channel! “Keep Going”!

[@johanvanheerden8458]

If Uma hits anything ,pray for anything ! Solid

[@larrythompson3645]

You guys are AMAZING, I can't beleave what you have done to the boat. You should be so proud of yourselves.

[@richh9241]

That's basically a new boat! Amazing work.

[@j.g.w.vanderneut4884]

Bedankt

[@beestingza]

The upgraded rudder mount looks incredible. Solid.

[@yexacom]

Thank You. This was most interesting.

[@BJ-xs7np]

Great job on your rudder project!

[@roadboat9216]

Now that’s a darn good looking rudder and skeg/gland/bearing. Very nicely done.

[@gregmason2208]

Your boat is going to be a beast when finished. So much work and attention to detail. Very impressive.

[@Kathikas1]

I have been a bit of a pain recently when commenting on a couple of cruising channels about underwater “things”, but bear with me if I do so again One of the most used and appreciated things we fitted down the back end was a small window that allowed us to see what was happening around our prop/rudder area and preplan any strategy without jumping into cold, dark, jumping up and down type, murky waters Now Uma has two props competing for kelp and fishing line etc might it be an idea to build in a simple fibreglass standpipe whose open top emerges in the cockpit above water level. This would allow an action type camera on a pole to be lowered and inspect all your stern-gear and the keel - you might even snap a passing orca pod?

[@michiganengineer8621]

Or a length of 4-6" diameter PVC plumbing pipe (glassed in place) with a screw on cap at the top end. The cap to prevent any unexpected "geysers" in spicy seas.

[@oblitafier]

Or just drop an action cam off the back of the boat and not put another hole in the hull.

[@jiefflerenard1228]

An other captivating video about dirty work, top notch narrative, filming, editing. BTW :while encasing the foot cap of the rudder in epoxy keep in mind it has to be removable ,for that I used to line similar parts with kitchen film wrap sometime just leaving it in or at time removing it to make sure parts are free. It is so thin that a few folds do not mater even disappearing when using bedding.

[@memnok9980]

That Magic Mind looks legit. Love your journey. Cheers

[@gmd2222]

Well done kids! Keep up the good work!

[@danerlich7393]

So the great part is that you have a skeg and a lower bushing and a better bearing surface and support at the top... so it is arguably VERY strong... but then there is some not so great stuff... This rudder design has a LOT of load because it pivots from the front and is not remotely balanced not partially balanced entirely trailing edge steering and that creates drag, and steering load on you and the pilot... Our boat has internal knees supporting the tube from the hull almost to the deck in HEAVY ply glassed over - a cut out in the tube for the packing gland and quadrant supported below the gland and massively above the quadrant as well.. . No skeg but relatively narrow blade and very nicely balanced - the boat steers like a dream with the updated rudder... The post went from tubular stainless mechanical tube to solid aluminium - I checked 50% stronger in solid aluminium than tubular stainless... Then comes the rudder internals.. up the centre of our updated rudder there is a 3/4" thick solid glass backbone in front of the post and behind it.. the solid billet tabs are milled into the shaft and welded to the shaft.. the glass on the sides is THICK and the shaft is set in the rudder with epoxy and was vacuum bagged with loads of solid glass.. Even like this the weight of the replacement rudder was five pounds less than the 55 pound OEM rudder (low aspect ratio and not well balanced) that I HATED.. This rudder I love and while it might not be Orca proof... it will really freaking hurt an orca if it tried to bite it... The beauty of this design is that in 30 knots or more of AWS - the pilot can steer the boat perfectly and the wake behind the boat is barely existing.. That is a HUGE difference...The internal structure in the boat tying the hull and deck together around the rudder tube ... is excellent - a thrust bearing at the deck and a cross retaining pin... the engineering is wonderful..

[@jamesa702]

Dan and the Angel working together in amazing harmony. Thanks for sharing.

[@atomicsmith]

You guys are such a great team!

[@tropicalbluwaters]

You two are so lucky that you have each other to lean on.

[@suellencarr9658]

🎉happy N.Y. guys🎉can't wait 2 see what u do 2 uma. all very exciting ❤

[@epajarjestelmainsinoori9037]

This is the best / most important / best bang for the buck improvement you have made. You have multiple ways of propulsion but only one rudder and the original bearing did not seem that sturdy.

[@kevbjork1]

Uma is gonna steer like a dream now. Nice work!

[@h.rutten2187]

A few months ago I thought you guys went through a bit of a rough relational or working patch, anyway you both seemed a bit down. But whatever I thought I was seeing, which is none of my business, it’s good to see you guys finding some new energy to enjoy the process. Remember when you guys bought her and the keel was all loose, welding old bowsprit and cockpit railing parts together on the dock, you both went a long way with this boat and I’m curious to see the end result, sure it will be a great cruiser. Hope for you guys you both will be on the water again soon, won’t be long if you ask me. Keep it going.👍

[@celstone]

Great job fixing that up! I’m a bit surprised that the rudders tip looks like the lowest point in the rear; have you thought about trimming it a bit to protect it?

[@Fuhugawagah]

nice work! An Orca would still smoke that rudder but it looks much stronger than before!

[@rockylockhart7301]

Wow, excellent job I am impressed.. You’re making your boat like new and upgraded..

[@janecme]

Proper solid job. Good work

[@thomaslandin8888]

Please show use the final painting of the locker. It brings so much joy to experience the instant gratification of a paint job, signifying that this area is complete.

[@karaDee2363]

Great job and looks great!

[@RaffaeleMoretuzzo]

What a wonderful job on your rudder! Very well done! Grazie! Ciao

[@jpdj2715]

That rudder and you r work with/to/for it - looks awesome.

[@grahamcifuentes4451]

LOVE those little clips and snips around the yard, Kika!

[@richardheuberger6154]

Thanks for a good episode as gould🙏⛵

[@ranchosinnombreannjimmy8427]

Thx guys we love your vids. This is the first Skeg vid I've ever seen, and I watch a lot of sailing vids, enjoying the boat work.

[@bjearl529]

It would be nice to have a checklist/timeline to see what y'all have done and what is still left to do. Then we can all follow along with you. Otherwise... Fabulous episode... It's coming along nicely.

[@electricboatal]

Excellent work on the rudder. You have reinforced all of the weak zones of a most important component. This will pay off big in the future. Progress is measured by how well you want to examine and permanently improve the strength and most importantly reliability. I would say that you have succeeded in every way. Best Regards Al Hartley

[@gramos9115]

Each year I drop my rudders (cat) and pack waterproof grease up inside the tubes and then refit the rudders . At the top inside I fitted 2 grease nipples so I can pump grease down inside the tube as well , a small groove was cut into the tube to allow the grease to go all the way down the tube . It keeps the rudders free and stops any growth up there. after 23 years theres really little play in the rudder stocks.

[@terrytrushel4303]

U Two Are The Best!!! GOD Bless !!!

[@DuaneElverum]

Great stuff - love your attention to details guys. One thing: I would *not* bed the bronze rudder cap with epoxy., This will make an eternal nightmare to remove. The three new bolts and some dolfinite bedding compound is plenty if the flange underneath is solid.

[@DanielTiffany-o8i]

You two are fun. 🤩

[@AdvantureZach]

I’m glad you decided to upgrade the rudder flange. If you hadn’t made good use of the old one and documented it, I would have had a hard time believing that it was still in working condition. So much more beef to the new one!

[@jonathanwetherell3609]

The productive working week has long been established at around 40 hours. Up to 35 every hour produces the same output, i.e. 30 hours work produces twice as much as 15. However, much over 40 and output goes down faster than the additional hours due to fatigue.

[@leonidas7080]

Awesome work ! A very useful trick, is to mix foam with resin or polyester.The result is a very lightweight and strong material.

[@jorgelecuona8031]

Grate job! Strong! More than enough. Regards from Spain

[@petersherman2552]

Going to be such a good boat! Triple strength everything! Being so much stiffer it should point higher as well. Used to be such bad boat. Wobbly keel, clunking rudder, rig pulling dimples into the sides. No wonder it creaked and groaned. And it's going to smell allot better without all those dead water pockets. Dyneema superstrong stays next?

[@norbrasoffshore3150]

I would like to make a suggestion. All bolts and bushings and even mix of metals you have, use aqua shield on it. It is a greasy green stuff that lubricates and will prevent anything from seizing up. I have used it on stainless steel bolts fit in an aluminium housing on a high voltage motor on an Rov. Went subsea for years. When I unscrewed the bolts five years later it was as if I put them in last week. Normally we see bolts corroding away the aluminum. Aqua shield is truly fantastic for this and protects your brass parts from the SS rudder bolt. Less corrosion and no seizing. Normally you can find it in small tubes in divershops. For industry you just get a bit bigger tubes of it. best of luck with Uma and I love watching your videos. Rebuilding is my favourite as I am an engineer and would love to be there with you, helping and learning more about glassing.

[@billwickett6320]

Like Tefgel

[@380Scania]

Great vlog from you and wow it is starting to come together now. Rudder has been much improved on and i hope you see the difference when you are on your shake down sail.

[@Boatgeniesofwashington]

Nice job on the rudder work and just your work in general

[@rolanddunk5054]

H,I have been following your channel for a long time and i always enjoy your boat project videos as a retired marine engineer I would have fitted a grease nipple or grease cup on the rudder stock bush.Thank you for your time and effort you are doing a great job 👏👏👍😀.

[@paulforster4133]

Watching the rudder lower pivot bracket being reinstalled with the old slot head screws was painful. I thought “why didn’t they get new hardwear when they ordered the top rudder pivot bracket” then Dan explained that they had and could relax knowing the excellent build quality would continue. Thanks you two

[@echothegoodwolf]

I had the same moment of wincing when I saw those old flat head bolts going back in! Was happy to hear the new ones are on their way!

[@l.r.dizing498]

I listened to some new videos I like now your I think new concept, explained at the same time as doing the work, I hope it doesn't increase your editing time. Thanks, you are doing a good job

[@prometeled]

patience and think for the long run is so rare respect

[@Mrlang74]

Have to say I’m really enjoying the boat work , stuff iv done myself and being a boat owner still doing , nice to see other ideas and project solving so keep positive as I know there are down days that you don’t really show , cheers from New Zealand,

[@retiredfederalie178]

It was interesting to see your rudder stuffing box journal come out so easy. The more I looked I realized the rudders in my boat have the same setup. What’s strange is my boat is a trawler with twin spade rudders and the hull is only about 2 centimeters thick there since there is no skeg. I would say many manufacturers from that time used that part regardless of what kind of boat configuration. I like the new one you installed, much better.

[@RichardSolis-iu3mr]

Best video yet. Keep up the good work going!

[@robertlaurer8392]

Nice work, great progress being made!

[@richardgrimm7503]

Love your work guys! Very entertaining to watch and well produced! ❤

[@lydiaajohnson]

Great job!!

[@nicclark9791]

I wonder if the weight you added will change much of the performance since it was built light and is a relatively fast boat. Did you think about upping the alternator on the dingy motor for charging your boat without the need to carry the portable generator. Was thinking you could add the drop transom to carry the motor, I see your transom on the boat is small but it would be better to have the outboard where it could do two things, save you in a pinch and charge your batteries if needed so no need for to carry the extra weight of the gen and getting that outboard in and out of the lazarette.

[@johndavidwolf4239]

I know I an a bit late with this suggestion, but for grinding/shaping hardened fiberglass, might I suggest a carbide "livestock hoof trimming disk" on your angle grinder.

[@HondaGoldwingGL1800]

At 19.44 where you are installing the bottom cap, you could streamline that by putting some 4200 in the crack at the top and making it flush with the fiberglass and the cap.

[@jefferylennerth9908]

interesting what going on with the wood boat next door. It would be neat to see what your neighbors are doing for a few seconds!

[@craigkepchar2619]

It's always fun to polish your shaft! Great show, and excellent editing.

[@googeliswiththegreys]

you are going to be so happy you did this now, this allows you to get off the hard for some projects and for some movement, change of pace, money saving...etc

[@randallyons8745]

that looks so good great job

[@keithh3463]

looking good, I wonder if the performance will be better with a stiffer boat and non wobbly rudder

[@michaelwhitewolf10]

Good job!!!!❤😊😊😊

[@brianbarnes4437]

fab episode thanks

[@shanefiddle]

Love love love the build videos you two are putting out! And the message of healthy balance and working with our mental balance is so excellent! Love the green ad bar at the bottom, very clever. Great shooting and editing this vid!

[@nearlynativenursery8638]

Great work guys. I truly appreciate you for educating us on youtube. I have watched all your episodes. Jim Rodgers

[@batmanbtch958]

I have always enjoyed seeing u cooking qt the end of tge day. Now its not there any more 😭

[@akkebengtsson6232]

Judging from the quick chemical reaction, it’s PU foam you put into the rudder skeg. Any thoughts about the pros and cons using epoxi foam for this type of application?