Making Pakistan Think - TLP and Religious Extremism - Syed Muzammil Shah - TPE

Syed Muzammil Shah is a news anchor, political analyst and vlogger.
Muzammil comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the culture of irrationality, how religious extremism was promoted in Pakistan, the damage PTI is causing to the ideology of the youth and debate what is keeping us ignorant.
On this podcast we discuss the News Media Industry, Hasan Nisar, Nietzsche, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Imran Khan, Usman Buzdar, how dangerous TLP can be, our favourite philosopher, what is keeping Pakistan back and ofcourse, whether or not Muzamil is single.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Is he single?
4:15 Professional vs Personal
8:44 Working at GNN
13:00 The News Media Industry
19:30 How to make sure you don't become Hasan Nisar
24:00 There is no value placed on Pakistani lives
28:00 Critical Thinking and following pseudo-intellectuals
37:00 Cancelling Historical thinkers
42:20 Bill Maher, America and Islamophobia
47:00 Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Imran Khan and how much power do civilians have
54:00 How dangerous is TLP
1:01:00 Rationality vs Ignorance Debate: Whats keeping Pakistan back
1:25:00 Musharaf, Imran Khan and Shaukat Aziz
1:28:00 Usman Buzdar
1:32:00 PTI's ideological damage
1:45:00 Awaam ko jahil rakha gaya hay
1:50:00 Dealing with hate online
2:01:00 Discussing Philosophy

[@syedmuzammilofficial7067]

It was thoroughly enjoyable, Shehzad. Thanks to everyone who gave it a listen and for all the messages to get me on something as amazing as The Pakistan Experience. Godspeed to the struggle. Cheers.

[@agnosticatheist1620]

@Jamal K no tension bhai is baat ki guarantee main leta hun agar koi khuda hai bhi jisne ye qayanat banai hai wo mazhabi khuda nahi hoga. To koi fiqr karne ki baat nahi. Mazhabi khudaao ko kuch nahi pata na unhe blackhole ka pata hai na bacteria ka na dna ka uper se inka suraj bhi taalab me doobta hai. Namaz pad lia karo jumma jumma or mohammad ko durood bhejne ki jagah laanat bheja karo or jyada kisi se is baare me baat mat karna koi bhi aashique rasool nikal sakta hai. Ye khuda bhi arbi iska nabi bhi arbi iski kitaab bhi arbi aisi zubaan jo duniya ke 95% log nhi pad sakte. This is not our culture ye culture humpe mussalat kiya gaya hai

[@affanahmedblue]

It was a phenomenonal session.

[@MOHDALI-yd6ny]

@Jamal K oh Bhai tujhe Ab god par zero percent yakeen hai.... 😕😕😕😕 Is universe ko Dekh kar koyi kah sakh tha ki ye apne aap ban gayi.... Wo bhi har cheez Itni fine ....yar there is supreme power who is running the universe.......... 😑

[@MOHDALI-yd6ny]

@Islamabadi Atheist agar koyi god nikla toh...... 😕😕😕😕.......then

[@MOHDALI-yd6ny]

@@agnosticatheist1620 agar Tum kisi ko maan teh nahi ho to...... Theek hai apni apni Marji....lekin kisi ki disrespect na karee...... Or na karneee ko boley...... Apni ideology...... Apne takh seemat rakhe 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@ZAIN9858]

Amazing Podcast, Syed Muzammil Shah is a blessing to this society.

[@musam1339]

I differ with the general ideology of the speakers on this channel a lot, but I still love watching it. It’s really eye opening and thought-provoking from so many aspects.

[@ejazahmed3643]

@@ThePakistanExperience shehzad sir kindly ask short questions and give more time to the guest. Interrupt na kare guest ko bat puri krne de.

[@mahendrapradhan8107]

After so so many year's of mainstream Pakistani news media, these guys are gems in an ocean of despair.

[@hassankhurshid9244]

Its at this exact moment i was thinking that Muzammil is one of the very very few political scientists/critical thinkers who I see myself looking up to. Previously, it has been the likes of Kant, marx, Mill.. and even J. Peterson (not a pol. Scientist but a critical thinker) these days. You guys did a wonderful discussion.

[@Nitish.Singhal]

Great podcast . Sachai apne aap dikhti hai apke podcast mein. Love from New Delhi , India.

[@Nitish.Singhal]

@@ThePakistanExperience 👍🏻👍🏻 really appreciate your ocean of knowledge.❤️❤️

[@waqasahmad933]

Shazad you are doing great job .. i watched your 4 podcast . Ammar Taimur pervez hoodbhoy and now syed muzammil. These all are my favourite.

[@waqasahmad933]

@@ThePakistanExperience Zaror ! Now i connected with you .❣

[@SHR78656]

Shehzad Bhai contact share Ker dain

[@SHR78656]

[phone]

[@SHR78656]

ANSIR Gillani

[@MOHDALI-yd6ny]

@@waqasahmad933 or ganji swag 😕😕

[@aisha5209]

Brilliant as usual,,, thanks to point out the « ideological damage » caused by PTI. Replacement of Saudi’s by Turkey that I’m still struggling to understand. Erdogan k itne supporters turkey mei nahi hein jitne Pakistan mei hein. I think we need to sort out why we always need an other country/nation as example to prove how good muslims we are. Itni religious insecurity kahay ko hai 😫 PS : you are absolutely right about diaspora,,, par itna beizzati karna zaroori nahi hai 😥

[@f.50]

Thank you for this, have him on again sometime and even though I understand this is a podcast, not an interview, I felt Muzammil ko thora space zyada diya jata before you agreed/contradicted with him. :)

[@mewmew_spirit]

This is an awesomely dealt with and much needed discussion and an amazing eid gift I hope he comes back on the podcast someday

[@majajanfromlahore]

Major crush ❣️

[@dharamsingh83]

I always love the way syed muzzamil is suppose to put his opinion in an unbiased way and with so much rationality…minds like him can change the future of Pakistan ..love from India 😊

[@waqasahmad933]

Great podcast . syed Muzammil who inspire people to reading . ❣

[@danishkhalid9255]

Great discussion. Please let the guest complete his thoughts. Thank you!

[@abdurrehmanrashid5556]

AAAA loved it. I love this guy soo much

[@sewaligoswami781]

Watching it again today. One of my favorite episodes of yours. I admire this man Muzzamil.

[@sidrah9629]

Amazing conversation,much appreciated 👏👏👏👏👏there should be another one with more dissection of philosophies and economics

[@rahulchandak2988]

Dude your channel brings a smile on my face - love from india Try contacting Tammy bhat pls have a podcast with him

[@Serious9185]

Thank you for putting this on Google podcast as well.

[@HOG1070]

Very constructive debate, really appreciate your thoughts. I enjoyed a lot. Keep up the good work, all the best from across the border.

[@tilakmahto8179]

Wish such honest discussion happen in India as well, people should fearlessly question Gov and modi

[@manishkumar-ou4dt]

Happy to see such two brilliant mind from Pakistan❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

❤️

[@aima9720]

I started to follow you a few months ago and now watching all your previous podcasts....I must you have evolved your channel beautifully

[@ahmerahmed6559]

Awesome podcast. Kudos to both of you. Shahzed, how do you find time to read so much? I wish that for myself too.

[@bankimkulshreshtha8695]

Dear friend,,i am from Delhi,but I see your programs repeatedly , and the same are fair and enlightening threadbare in analysis 🙏

[@zeejah]

Shahzad... i am a great grandmother and am still learning from you about new ways of understanding. Thank you!🎉

[@ThePakistanExperience]

❤

[@chainofsapiens9333]

Always love and pleasure to hear you bhai❤️

[@MB-xn2xq]

Maybe you should let the speaker speak more than yourself :p But honestly, what clarity of thought this man has!

[@farrukhirfan]

wow . What a great podcast.

[@faree38green]

I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast! You must call this guest again! Very enlightening!

[@sajeershaikh]

Very interesting

[@ammarnabikhan4810]

2 hours passed quite quickly.

[@ammarnabikhan4810]

@@ThePakistanExperience loved it❤

[@mubasharaltaf79]

Beautiful logical supermen conversation love you

[@vinaykumarsingh2736]

One of the best Fantastic show, Shehzad.

[@geetaprabhakar4261]

👍👍 very good analytical information

[@cupidpuneet]

amazing shows, nice work.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@Mariam-vl8qo]

Great podcast. All his videos on his youtube channel are amazing and spot on. He is very precise and clear in his analysis. Do invite him again.

[@anambutt8127]

Man I missed this. This unsettling slap of ideas from amir liaqat to immanuel kant, that is going to tickle my core beliefs, make me more irritable than my estrogen. I missed this.

[@umerhayat1590]

Thank you brothers

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@alizaman239]

A humble request to the host. Since this is your podcast you get opportunity to convey your thoughts. But I really wanted to hear Muzammil’s point of view uninterrupted. I felt you did not let him finish when ever he wanted to make a point. What’s the point of inviting him? But don’t get me wrong . We live your podcast and feel you are doing a great job.

[@enigmacyph134]

Muzammil shah is one of the most intellectual personalities in Pakistan

[@71espn]

Bhutto did not have all the power the a democratically elected representative should have but Bhutto did what he did for power be it in relation to east Pakistan or the Ahmadis. He cared more about power than he did about these people.

[@abdulhaseebkharral1068]

Syed muzammil is a renaissance man❤

[@rajasufyan3876]

Don't know what to say but you said word to word a truth. Roz din rat yahi soch soch k guzar jati hai but jawab nahi milta k ho kia raha hai es mulk main. i want to cry out loud littraly but i can't because of extremism. sorry to say but i believe we are worst possible nation exist in the face of this world. Again sorry to say

[@exincident]

Thank you Shahzad bringing it up . Amazing content . Really appreciated.

[@dreadfulbodyguard7288]

At 1:18:16, Syed means - That was era of playing zero sum games where only way to progress was to plunder from others. Now, it's about positive sum games where you have to cooperate with others to win mutually beneficial games.

[@affanahmedblue]

Best 2 hours 12 mins ever spent 🙌. Following him on KZbin.

[@Gehri_soch2.0]

@@ThePakistanExperience he should do a collab with Ali Aftab Saeed

[@syedmustjabhaiderbukhari2728]

Muzammil is really a gem !

[@WajidAli-nk4lx]

I am shocked as well k 70% people are agree with Muzammil Shah. wow

[@asimhussain2295]

Ghias bhai bari choonai kr k bandy chunn k laaty ho waah, Muzammi shah dabang speaker hai wahwa.

[@fireangel911]

Sayed Muzzamil..Iove you.♥️♥️♥️♥️ Not meant to overlap.. as mentioned.

[@Leezeo]

Love it

[@zeeshanpervaz7357]

He mentioned hoodbhoy...I wish muzammil one day you have a collaborative video with dr.hoodbhoy .you guys are almost same in thinking.

[@umayr2935]

1:09:00 Muzammil thinks like a post modernist, somewhat like Zizek, what a chad.

[@momo19991]

Kudos to Muzammil for standing up for rational thought.

[@haseebzaman2599]

knowledge spreader bros 👍

[@zulfchoudhary2746]

Well done, lets fight together

[@sharjeeljawaid]

I wrote off IK when he was delivering his inaugural speech. The rhetoric of Riyasat e Madina was so hypocritical

[@anujay81]

I like Hasan Nisar's jumla "Jaisa munha waisi chaped "

[@ahsan8569]

One of the best podcast 🌠

[@sg0912]

Great conversation as always. 👌

[@its.ekramah]

Thank you very much both of you Shehzad and Muzammil Bhai for making such informative podcast.❤️Love You Guys.

[@rajanrai4685]

I love Syed Muzammil 😎. He is So handsome and We'll educated.... Personality and Looking so good ❤️... I love you....❤️... Love from India .... 😀❤️😘🥰

[@muhammadrehanghazi41]

Please the total time duration of the talk should always be around 60 minutes i.e one hour only. The discussion is of high quality and quite informative.

[@moonlight-zn9ty]

@@ThePakistanExperience the longer the better imo. Love your work shehzad ✌️

[@its.ekramah]

18:05 He is talking about Syed Haider Ali.

[@lancecorporal6119]

I didnt understand the zakir naik point (@ 1:39:10 ) can you please explain?

[@randomcommentor8075]

Wo keh rhay han k non Muslims ki jaga pr masjid beshaq ban jaae pr zakir nayak ko apni jaga mandir pasand nahi h. Kyun k according to him 2+2=4 hota h. If I'm not wrong he used that as an example to say that islam is the only right religion

[@lancecorporal6119]

@@randomcommentor8075 oh did he mean ke no mandir in a Islamic country yah kisi specific jagah ki baat kar rahay thay?

[@randomcommentor8075]

@@lancecorporal6119agr ap zakir naayak ko sunain to uska general point hi ye h ki islam is the only right religion aur hum baaki religions ko allow nahi krtay kyun k wo wrong han. He even said k agr ap islam se convert ho jaen dusray religion me to you deserve death. I think ye general baat kr rhay han koi specific nahi

[@lancecorporal6119]

@@randomcommentor8075 oh ok

[@fireangel911]

I dont think of you as a second Hassan nisar. You are the first SYED MUZZAMIL. period.

[@usmansf]

Actions are based on Intent and Ideas on their outcome, at 8:17. Kindly, the correlation here?

[@usrakhan975]

To me, the best part was seeing Muzzamil smiling....cuz in his own videos, he is always serious n agitated.

[@servantof1god]

Slaam! Behtareen

[@muqaddasfatimah6746]

Thanks Shehzad Sheikh and Syed Muzammil for this very enlightened podcast.

[@davidhenry3553]

I don't agree with more of your far left thoughts where in my Idea the far left was more responsible for mass murders than the far-right, but I still like your podcast so much and I really appreciate it and encourage you and your channel to do more videos like this and keep touching sensitive topics. as it has been said, "I don't agree with you but I will fight till my last breath to protect your right of speech".

[@nishantsrivastava2625]

You are indian

[@hamzajavaid87]

Muzammil for President

[@khizzeralam3130]

Yea totally agree. You took too much space of your guests views. I'm sure people know your views. I didn't get to hear his views completely. Especially about the dualism conversation about oppressor-oppressed concept. You both didn't get to explore the conversation about how ''US came with its raptors into Afghanistan for democracy'' or how you believed that today there is still a concept of 'empire'. That would be great to explore...rather than the premiere league lol. And you said you had 7 to 8 points to respond to him about his views about the lack of rational tradition in pk... I think that could be good to pick up in the next podcast. And please give more space to the lad before you challenge (rightfully), that was frustrating to watch. For me the rationality vs ignorance debate was the cream of this convo. Would love to see more of that. Thanks for doing this

[@pranayaprakash4315]

I need his channel link

[@hamzaakhter4353]

Here for syed muzammil official Ps let muzammil complete his argument

[@danielsingh8889]

I totally I understand what your saying sir. End of the day if all about education. Our conscious comes from our family, school and society. It’s hard to change the family and society aspect but school, is the place you taught practical philosophy. The problem if our people their so consume with conspiracy theory and forget about facts and logic. If people are educated I’m sure their can think for themselves well

[@Zainab-wg7nj]

Sahe ja rhe ho boys.

[@rajeshpratapsinghsingh500]

syed bhtai jaan most intelligent pakistani

[@humanneedsnoreligion9591]

Really man, I don’t think any Pakistani person can speak that much truth and still alive in Pakistan.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Hum dono zinda hain

[@bharatchoudhary540]

When people ask Shehzad 'what is that higher self'? .. Shehzad's eye lit up. I feel you bro. If people had experienced even a drop of that experience they would know the limits & trap of their intellectualism for which they are so arrogant all the time.

[@71espn]

@@ThePakistanExperience doesn't change the fact that it is just happening in your head.

[@taqqirummi7909]

Bahe eik baat batao ye interview apka tha ya muzamil ka??

[@Nutkani]

Please record book review sessions 🙏

[@dr.lennartsingh5688]

Next podcast with Hasan Nisar Saheb, if possible please.

[@ashrayrs]

can you get ravish kumar on your podcast ? he will be available in facebook and not twitter

[@asimhussain2295]

18:09 Syed Muzammil is talking about Syed Ali Haider.

[@nooro5766]

Ali haider is so annoying !

[@asimhussain2295]

oar kya baat ki aap ne allegory of the cave ko breakdown kr k btana chhaie bilkul bilkul log bas terms utha lety oar vomit kr k nikl jaty aglay ko pta b nai hota k kya kah rha hai bas sounds good good sa h lgta hai mtlab nai pta hota.

[@shahanaj6227]

1:07:38 bitter truth of our generation that every other person wants to achieve this state of selflessnes and do not even think of achieving anything in this life. it pains my brain, everytime i think about it. 😑

[@hemangshrivastava9561]

29:00 Exactly same thing happened me with Modi 😅😅😅 There is contrast difference between CM Modi vs PM Modi.... I was so excited when Modi was PM candidate in 2013 & even till 2016. He now lost interaction with people now.

[@HS-rx9ho]

Very funny,can u give any one valid reason,very general statement, he won with more seats in 2019 n you are saying he has lost contact with ppl.

[@dreadfulbodyguard7288]

I think Modi hasn't changed. Just that it is easier to control a state and focus on development but on national level, game is different - diversity of religions, inter-state issues, exposure to media increases and player has to spend energy on keeping this relations intact instead of focusing on development. That's why I think diversity is major factor responsible for lack of India's growth as compared to China.

[@bkhan5963]

Pakistan’s best podcast 🏆🏆

[@its.ekramah]

01:14:40 Aaj bhi Ghazwa e Hind oor Wo dajjal wali Jang Ki kahanian sell hote hain oor loog accept kartee hain...

[@MuhammadAwaisArif]

Invite Syed Muzamil Hassan Zaidi

[@2903amitk]

Ye to mirzapur ka Bablu lag raha hai 😀😀

[@syedazhar962]

You the maan Muzammil.... for the host, plz let your guest speak

[@heyyo6050]

Plato's republic was also not misunderstood it is a dystopian society. That's it. Which means that UTOPIA is a DYSTOPIA. Plato also advocates for dictatorship for his truths. Also plato asks for class based society which we already are. Plato has good points but it is a dystopia

[@CCCP_Again]

Sir, you should use some good lighting, the video quality is very poor. Otherwise the podcast is supreme!

[@CCCP_Again]

@@ThePakistanExperience ok sir g!

[@HOG1070]

I hope in this life time I will be able to visit Pakistan, I have heard so many wonderful things about Pakistan despite so much negative journalism or media from both side.

[@yesyou3306]

uss ko bee bolnee duu naa

[@thefearlessshaheen2366]

Hayatullah Khan had 5 children...

[@khanumarkhan3364]

i don't get it you guys just criticize the self centric ideology throughout the podcast but in the end you guys advise the people to be self centric but anyhow i love the way he see's the things which on it's on a great think his analysis are not reflecting any of his bias which is great to see.so as a whole i am amuse to see you guys discussing the issue which are critical great podcast thankyou.

[@saadwaheed465]

Shah mehmood ka perfect impression tha 😂😂😂

[@adeelaakhtar6024]

💕💕💕