Making REAL Cinestill 800T at home - Kodak Vision 2004 emulsion

[@Nick-bj5pb]

How the hell do you only have 28 subs, this is an awesome video!

[@josselinmarnat]

Just stumbled on this video, great explanations, and I'll try your technique thanks to you! You deserve a lot more subscribers! Cheers from France.

[@zeadon]

Great video!

[@tomasgoda]

The droplets (bubbles) on the emultion side of the film happened to me too, used some expired film vision 3 2011exp date, and normally shot it(without removing layer first) then I removed it with baking soda and developed in c41, I still got those spots, and on some pictures a lot and on some almost none. I definitely think it is part of the old expired film and not your mistake. In your case there are few spots so you can fix it in lr.

[@steliosthemelakis9899]

I wish I stumble on a pile of cheap Kodak Vision one day. Nice video, but I didn't get why you would remove the remote before shooting. After is easier.

[@dianegative508]

Only to get the red halation effect the same as with Cinestill. And more as a kind of experiment on how difficult it would to reproduce the effect at home

[@tasost2161]

Can you do a video of how tou tape the emulsion side? And how you remove the remjet?

[@joshmcdzz6925]

Next, make your own colored film..😀

[@barrydoyle7686]

That’s awful and dishonest. You basically scammed that guy out of thousands of euro.

[@dianegative508]

I understand why you would say that. But he set his own price and if the film would have ended up being exposed or unusable due to improper storaging etc, that would be a fair price for those spools being essentially only a decoration. It would be equally dishonest from his part to sell it for a price of usable film given that he has no knowledge about what it is, its condition, how to test it, and how it ended up in his storage. The best way for him to get the most money out of it would be to place it up for auction, but he didn’t.

[@barrydoyle7686]

Ok, you tell yourself that but we both know you stole from him. Maybe not according to the law, but ethically. You should have explained his mistake to him and then he could have decided on a fair price. Disgusting.

[@dianegative508]

@@barrydoyle7686 We are all adults and make our own decisions. I never lied to the man about what he was selling and how much it should cost. The reason why people earn money in any field is expertise. Starting from people hunting for treasures at thrift stores all the way up to actual professionals and academics. It is hard work and a long process to gain the knowledge. You seem like a sort who doesn’t respect the hard work that goes behind the curtains, the sort to get outraged as to why a photographer or a teacher should be paid more than the hourly wage, blind to see the time spent beyond what’s in front of your face. It is incredible how much judgment, shame, and guilt you carry within yourself. You are not in a position to provide judgment (as opposed to an opinion). If you have a severe case of Weltschmerz, you might want to discuss it with a professional.

[@barrydoyle7686]

@@dianegative508 ​I work as professional in the visual arts actually. I work hard to earn my living so I do understand. I j​ust think it's disgraceful what you did and you know it too. You didn't earn money by adding value with expertise; you just exploited someone else's lack of knowledge to scam them. You said it yourself: He misunderstood what he had and you were actually worried someone else would tell him. Yes, I 'm judging you but the shame and guilt would be on you if you had any scruples.

[@dianegative508]

​@@barrydoyle7686 "someone else would tell him" - alright, but what does it entail? That he will demand a fair price or simply a higher price for an item that was not tested, hence the only way to establish a fair price is to put it on an auction to see how the market treats it. Neither did anyone actually offer him more despite my worrying. If you are at all familiar with the used market, which is also likely different if you come from a wealthier country than Poland, where I bought the film, you wouldn't be so naive with your conclusions. I couldn't afford to pay more, in fact, at the time I was forced to loan the money to afford it at all. I was eager to experiment and it is with pain that I sold the rest to afford rent. Given the above, I can agree that I could have phrased it better in the video. Yes, his lack of knowledge, why is it so different in the case of purchase than in any other case? He was at his liberty to seek information and consultancy about the item, that would have cost him time and potentially money. He might have even gotten bad advise or he might have met someone familiar with film and get good advice. Why is it that you do not value my research effort, my knowledge from learning about a niche kind of photography, my many years of market observations, and my hightened sence of curiosity, where I do not seek a ready-made product but want to experiment at a low cost? Yes, I eventually made a relatively huge profit. What I brought was the effort of testing it. Getting the equipment, finding a lab that would develop ECN-2 film, paying for scan and develop, doing that with several rolls, plus all the knowledge and effort that led me to be able to do it and having the item in my possession. I provided exact information about the film to the end buyers. I provided an accurate description and knew where to sell it. Why does all this worth nothing to you? And why does it bother you that I made a profit? Yes, I could have advised him to put it up for auction to see if he sells it for more. I could have provided the value of my knowledge to him. But I do not have any kind of moral or any other responsibility to do it. I have not enlightened him nor have I deceived him. He offered, I bought. This is a morally neutral situation. If it bothers you that I didn't do "a morally good thing" (note that I do not use the word "right", because that is an endless subject for a philosophic debate) but acted "neutral" - it is only for you to process you feelings. One last comparison at the end: during a job interview, why do people only describe their best qualities, behave different than at any other occasion, do not present their actual flaws? This would be fair and would let the employer make a better-informed decision and make their business stronger. I encourage you to think about this and my comments above fairly, without the exaggerated display of naivete presented so far.