Making S4N4 Part 1 (SCl2 + NH3)

[@pseudomonad]

Gotta say, we really don't get this kind of edge-of-the-seat suspense from NurdRage.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I suppose it's always a relief knowing that I uploaded this, because it means I couldn't have actually died

[@pseudomonad]

@@ExtractionsAndIre Yeah, that's always a plus.

[@joeestes8114]

Hey now! Thats enough!

[@danielgrantcoleman]

Im unclear. Did we choose a new pope or not? Trippy smoke man.

[@johnmorrell3187]

Underrated comment, this

[@hans429]

*elect

[@MrAaronbill]

HA !

[@austinholbrook6356]

I feel 200% better when I can hear he is wearing the mask.

[@jhyland87]

Agreed!

[@opalishmoth8591]

I like the kinda jank nature of his set up. But safe jank. Like using an old brick to keep a stand in place. (Also I think the visual of a state of the art fume hood in the shed is just hilarious. It’ll be beautifully out of place LOL

[@Pro_Vs_Con]

Sometimes I feel guilty about my drinking habits and how bad it is for my body.... And then I watch this and I honestly feel alot better...!

[@franglish9265]

Beautiful ammonium chloride smoke rings I'm guessing your lawn will really enjoy all that ammonium chloride!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

It was fun to watch at the very start! And yes, my lawn has never been short of nitrogen, between all the ammonium and nitrate salts that I use!

[@elnombre91]

"If in doubt, toluene" is always a good plan.

[@nigeldepledge3790]

Unless you're doing nitrations....

[@vladimirputin4157]

@@nigeldepledge3790 Yeah, glycerine would be a superior option there

[@drrrrockzo]

A good source of DCM is "powder coat stripper". It's normally are 30-40% DCM with a small amount of HF and the balance is methonal.

[@nigeljohnson9820]

It will be interesting to see the properties of the product.

[@Felixkeeg]

Shit that reaction stressed me out. You know your chemistry is exciting when you could insert the footage into Breaking Bad and it fits.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

that was a stressful show

[@danielmclatchie5229]

I have to say, these videos really help with my exam procrastination

[@LateNightHacks]

The pink rain was trippy

[@kieranodea771]

I can't remember the reaction exactly but I know the pink color is from Calcium chloride reacting with elemental sulfur. Some sort of complex with S, HCL and H3N I think.

[@MsMotron]

do you prefer pink or yellow chemistry?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Pink is magical, yellow is trash

[@homosapiensqp3225]

Isn't pink caused by mercury complexes?

[@HomemadeChemistry]

manganese chloride also

[@miialamia1653]

What a clusterfuck, this is at least my third time coming back and laughing at this. Good one mate!

[@Alexjaeger1024]

Had you considered synthesizing carbon tet through UV chlorination of chloroform? The references I've found suggest that's the most feasible small batch method.

[@ryanc473]

Well he just got some fancy new UV LEDs for the cubane synthesis, so maybe it's a feasible option now (assuming he can get them working). If you saw the prior installments though where he attempted UV photochemistry it was, uh, interesting to say the least lol

[@gitbig333]

I'll never be unimpressed by smoke rings

[@piranha031091]

Just looked up the structure, that is one weird compound! Will you try making weird complexes out of it? Would be fun adding a little to aqueous solutions of Fe, Cu, etc... to see what happens.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

The final compound does have some interesting chemistry! Not sure it survives well in aqueous solutions, but it can do all sorts of things with extra ammonia or extra chlorine

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Like check out this structure: twitter.com/CM_Hedge/status/1142188235621195776?s=19

[@yiannisch6851]

9:06 thats a hell of a bong!

[@helldad4689]

as one chemist in ungodly hot area to another, i was gonna joke that you should stack another condenser on it. quite the surprise to see the next shot be "that idea didn't work either". i've also just thrown ice directly onto my stir plate when a reaction was in the "thermal runaway danger zone".

[@lablulz2483]

Nice, I've had this compound on my to-do list for a while.

[@mamaymay8259]

Some people want Morgan Freeman to narrate their life. I need you to narrate my lab life!

[@nivikliriak]

It'd be cool to see you synth the carbon tet!

[@aaronclair4489]

I would actually expect one hour to be just enough for those sieves to dry out that toluene, at least mostly. Sieves are really awesome, and I think people take them for granted because they're so cheap and easy.

[@neillcoetzer9133]

Just a thought. why not use a hot water bath for temperature control, and use the water as a buffer, taking advantage of its high heat capacity allowing it to act as an energy sponge.

[@achyuth6500]

Can you please upload your older videos of S4N4 to KZbin

[@AguaFluorida]

Just thinking, if you bubble the ammonia thru DCM before the SCl2 solution, won't that reduce the amount of solvent loss? Ammonia dissolving in the first DCM could perhaps be compensated by clever use of a dropping funnel.

[@AguaFluorida]

PS you really need to get some more clamps and stands, or even a bench scaffold set up!

[@rubywest5166]

Just thinking, next time you have that "Are you *suuure* it's dry" question, would it be work taking some anhydrous Mag Sulfate and testing it for clumping? Or are you part of the "it's too hard to see the end point" club too?

[@cadmiumbop]

how do you clean all your stuff?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

My current method is putting all the dirty stuff in a box and trying to forget about it but instead just feeling guilty all the time

[@cadmiumbop]

​@@ExtractionsAndIre that is what I am doing at the moment and now I cant get rid of it. :(

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

@@cadmiumbop don't make me lose hope :/

[@williamackerson_chemist]

@@cadmiumbop Sulphur can be cleaned using toluene or xylenes... Other than that, a base bath should work for most things, although you can't just dump your glassware in that forever or it will corrode. Nile red has a video on making a base bath.

[@cadmiumbop]

@@williamackerson_chemist thanks for the advice I might try that I have never though of that before. :) I have nearly year old flasks ridden with failed sulfur experiments so I can now free up some flasks instead of just buying new ones

[@botavictor5832]

what stir plate is that?

[@twothreebravo]

Pink Chem?

[@theSILKROAD210]

Oi Mate, have you bought some thermocouples yet?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

fuckin

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

thanks for the reminder

[@willoux_]

strawberry flavored vape clouds

[@sherannaidoo2712]

Mate. Ccl4 is found in brake clean. Most auto motive stores will carry it. Greetings from South Africa....

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Really? I think you might be thinking of C2Cl4, which often ends up in brake cleaners, at least here. But, no idea what happens in South Africa, so you could be right!

[@sherannaidoo2712]

@@ExtractionsAndIre thanks for the reply. As far as I know it's Ccl4. Maybe just check the contents list on the can. Keep up the great content!

[@patrickdavis99]

This was awesome! But yeah man be careful when it popped I got scared for ya, wear the damn mask if you should be, don't fuck up your lungs just for better audio.

[@georgebritten8208]

Why is your condenser fluid green?

[@johnmorrell3187]

He's said before it's mostly for convenience if it spills to see if it's gotten into anything or to see where it spilled. Since basically every product (pink smoke excepted) is a clear fluid

[@joeestes8114]

Your glassware looks like a big uterus! Lol

[@Pro_Vs_Con]

Love this lmao..

[@gitbig333]

6:15 so pretty

[@nicktohzyu]

wtf is that pink stuff??

[@christopher8k]

Him being happy that it got yellow confuses me

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

This is the project that made him hate yellow chemistry.

[@jasonpfeilsticker5692]

haech see el.

[@Kernelhazzard1]

For all the crap he talks about the gram condenser, he uses it a lot.

[@burningpentagram666]

Pink chemistry is gay.

[@joeydubbs763]

Jesus boy, that shit looks like death on a stick man!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Hey so comment question of the day is: what is the most stressful reaction you've ever done? I'm sure some of you have some good stories!

[@MsMotron]

accidentally exploding black powder while drying it. not very advanced but very stressful for a short time.

[@orvillelam3550]

Stressful story: I remember once doing a school project to find out the strength of hydrogen bonds between chloroform and ethyl ethanoate. But according to what I learn from my school, chloroform does not form hydrogen bond. So, I was quite stressed when I wad asked to explain the exothermic reaction that happens when chloroform is mixed with ethyl ethanoate using hydrogen bonds cuz I don't really know how to do it.

[@doyale2]

Even though it is more of a process than a single reaction, that has to be the C60 synthesis since it took years of work and very unconventional large scale setups to get milligrams of crude product in the end... Worth it tho

[@fbiopenup6698]

Ammonium nitrate from ammonium sulfate and calcium nitrate using no glassware, filtration was hell

[@j_sum1]

Embedding fragments of a 10mL beaker into my fingers at high velocity. A wee bit stressful for a moment there. Mostly recovered now but lower portion of one finger is still hamburger meat under the skin.

[@NicolasBana]

Hy sine according to wiki "S4N4 is thermochromic, changing from pale yellow below −30 °C to orange at room temperature to deep red above 100 °C" it might be interesting to heat that powder up to see if it changes back to the bright red.... That might be your product after all ! x)

[@doyale2]

Damn, I could have sent you some CCl4 just a while ago

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Transporting a liquid is hard though, and I'm not sure if you legally can import it here?? Chloroform would've been fine, I did not plan well enough

[@williamackerson_chemist]

You can't just go and leave us on a cliff-hanger like this!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I thought it was interesting stopping here, because you genuinely can't tell if its going to work or not

[@duketoast544]

Great contribution to pride month with the pink smoke, keep it up! (jk) I really wonder where the dark colour of the filtrate could come from though, looks almost like tar. Let's hope you can extract something explosive from it nevertheless, i know how it feels to do something over and over again because it keeps failing.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

the solid is a very strange colour here. Its nearly a green, but very dark. Also, not a great smell

[@elephystry]

So... it’s a girl?

[@horrorhotel1999]

Imagine this where our product, the explosive, being made here and snowing out of the reaction vessel. That would be amazing

[@Ccccaatfish]

What if you threw some ice cubes in the pump water?

[@j_sum1]

Pink chemistry bad.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

yet to be confirmed. Didn't look very healthy though

[@j_sum1]

@@ExtractionsAndIre well at least the pink isn't from blood. That would be bad.

[@piranha031091]

@@ExtractionsAndIre Try using S4N4 to make a tantalum complex. You'll have synthesized S4TaN4. Make sure you buy the reagents from Sigma Eldritch.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

You guys are giving me good ideas for a Halloween spooky episode

[@piranha031091]

@@ExtractionsAndIre "Today, we're encapsulating fluoride inside a fullerene, to make some [C60F]- H+, which should be corrosive enough to etch a hole through the fabric of reality itself. If it doesn't work, we'll try blasting one with octaazacubane."

[@Ornithopter470]

I don't understand why he slapped a graham condenser on top, it doesn't work bottom up.

[@jhyland87]

Who knew... Wine makes a pretty decent good solvent!..

[@spurmdogresidue603]

6:53 my inner crackhead is telling me to clear the glass rig like a fat bong

[@DG-cz3hv]

You should use a tee joint downstream of the pump with one end going to your glass setup and one end going to a throttle valve and then to atmosphere. You can then just adjust that throttle valve to a place where the pressure is low enough to not blow joints but also still hopefully high enough to provide you sufficient driving head for your experiments. That valve would also be a means of manual over pressure protection by allowing you to fully open the valve in case you needed to rapidly depressurize.

[@robmckennie4203]

I like that he *almost* came to this solution, but instead of a valve he just cut a hole 😂

[@franglish9265]

DCM A little less than Ideal?... But it's safer than water....

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I should've pranked myself, and three years ago actually just put wine in that wine bottle and label it DCM. Then I'd forget, pour it directly into the SCl2... and that would be less than ideal

[@franglish9265]

@@ExtractionsAndIre yes, wine, or even 100% EtOH, would have been less than Ideal.

[@washingtonirving1345]

The "all I have to do is clean up... oh no" at the end is so sad

[@irus1024]

7:50 worst gender reveal ever!

[@FunkBallGX]

Hmmmm... forbidden wine.

[@feelinghealingfrequences7179]

huh....

[@shonkysidewayssam6134]

Hope you haven’t had the police or Hazmat people turning up. Lol ;) Invest in a fume cabinet, have a chemicals and a glassware registry, make sure to also keep MSDS sheets for each reagent being used and I definitely advise keeping an up to date/detailed laboratory notebook of all your experiments/preparations. Having these items will safeguard in most cases against any embarrassing neighbourhood evacuations and confiscations of equipment and chemicals. Awesome stuff though :)

[@dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676]

Wait, I’m perhaps being quite daft here but why is this reaction SO stressful? Obviously something awful can happen, but what happens, and under what circumstance?

[@SodiumInteresting]

Just noticed your condenser isn't green it's your cooling liquid. Is it a special coolant or just water with food dye?

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

It's just dyed, he mentioned it in one video.

[@SodiumInteresting]

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 for tracking and making sure dye doesn't appear where it shouldn't 🤔

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@SodiumInteresting yep, exactly. He was having leaks the one day and wanted to make sure it wasn't getting anywhere it shouldn't.

[@luckybo1675]

At 6:40 looks fun and kinda relaxing well... watching it. Also, where do you get your gear?

[@JabirAli-do7dq]

Can convert ammonium chloride and sulfur into lacquerwood

[@THSP31011]

Making (stuff) Me: idk what that is or what you're saying but I know I enjoy watching you try stuff and learn.

[@wyatt1339]

Blow that joint 🍁 💨

[@terawattyear]

Looks like you have as much time coming up in cleaning all that glass as you did in making the product. Great color show. Must’ve been hard to breathe in there though, ay?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

It wasn't hard to breathe, but hey I wasn't breathing that stuff in! Did not look very healthy at all

[@thobiazz]

what is that green stuff you're pumping through the condenser? 2:02

[@luisp.3788]

Dyed water.

[@nicktohzyu]

but shouldn't dcm be more polar than tetraCM and hence have a lower vapor pressure?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

You're right it is more polar, so it goes against that usual trend. If I had to guess the reason, is say that the chlorine is just so heavy, you basically double the molecular weight from DCM to tetrachloromethane, so that factor increases boiling point

[@nicktohzyu]

@@ExtractionsAndIre but at the scale of molecular interactions, polar attraction/vanderwaals is many magnitudes stronger than gravity, so that shouldn't be a reason. Perhaps it's because the bigger tetCM has much more vanderwaals?