Making sense of irrational numbers - Ganesh Pai

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TED-Ed

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Like many heroes of Greek myths, the philosopher Hippasus was rumored to have been mortally punished by the gods. But what was his crime? Did he murder guests or disrupt a sacred ritual? No, Hippasus's transgression was mathematically proving the hitherto unprovable. Ganesh Pai describes the history and math behind irrational numbers.
Lesson by Ganesh Pai, animation by Anton Trofimov.

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@milyon8910
@milyon8910 4 жыл бұрын
oh my goodness i just realized that "rational" means it can be expressed in ratios. I thought mathematicians just didn't think the numbers made sense.
@sheena_.
@sheena_. 4 жыл бұрын
😭😂
@santripta
@santripta 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Boog1137
@Boog1137 4 жыл бұрын
Took me a while to make this connection too
@IMVeer0072
@IMVeer0072 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Griffin moment
@Its_Pritam_
@Its_Pritam_ 4 жыл бұрын
WTF! Same
@XxUginxX
@XxUginxX 5 жыл бұрын
Hippasus' colleagues punished him for discovering irrational numbers? Wow, that's truly irrational!
@commmander64
@commmander64 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly if i where during that time i would think of the gods and their believers a bit LESS in value since they can't handle the truth of Hippasus's work. Ironically that would make me have the same impiety i guess.
@noammosek1319
@noammosek1319 3 жыл бұрын
Peek comedy
@quantumbracket6995
@quantumbracket6995 3 жыл бұрын
314 likes nice
@buzyparticals3753
@buzyparticals3753 2 жыл бұрын
SUS HIPPO
@randompoop1565
@randompoop1565 2 жыл бұрын
No, he deserves it!!!
@xmaxwell7987
@xmaxwell7987 8 жыл бұрын
This should've been titled "Rationalizing Irrational Numbers".
@dragosdragos3961
@dragosdragos3961 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@flamingpi2245
@flamingpi2245 4 жыл бұрын
Omg what a missed opportunity
@trevorallen3212
@trevorallen3212 4 жыл бұрын
2/sqrt(2)=sqrt(2)
@theobserver314
@theobserver314 3 жыл бұрын
@@trevorallen3212 0_o
@trevorallen3212
@trevorallen3212 3 жыл бұрын
@@theobserver314 2/(cubicroot(4))=cubicroot(2) 2/(4throot(8))=4throot(2)... I can go on but, it be pain to type so here is formula for equivalent irrational numbers of nthroots. Base/(nthroot(Base^(n-1)))= nthroot(base)
@Stray0
@Stray0 8 жыл бұрын
> "Are you the square root of 2?" > "Because I feel irrational around you." How to flirt. :D
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@ThomasNimmesgern
@ThomasNimmesgern 8 жыл бұрын
+Cat Are you hungry?
@cortster12
@cortster12 8 жыл бұрын
+Stray Pay Or, they will think you are calling them fat.
@rishovmondal1524
@rishovmondal1524 8 жыл бұрын
howard wallowitz,
@stellalpina
@stellalpina 8 жыл бұрын
+cortster12 Definitely. I guess it would only work with mathematicians. :P
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- 8 жыл бұрын
_"I'm sure that I will always be_ _A lonely number like root three_ _The three is all that's good and right,_ _Why must my three keep out of sight_ _Beneath the vicious square root sign,_ _I wish instead I were a nine-_ _For nine could thwart this evil trick,_ _with just some quick arithmetic_ _I know I'll never see the sun, as 1.7321_ _Such is my reality, a sad irrationality_ _When hark! What is this I see,_ _Another square root of a three_ _As quietly co-waltzing by,_ _Together now we multiply_ _To form a number we prefer,_ _Rejoicing as an integer_ _We break free from our mortal bonds_ _With the wave of magic wands_ _Our square root signs become unglued_ _Your love for me has been renewed"_ -Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay (2008)
@sophiejones7727
@sophiejones7727 8 жыл бұрын
best part of that movie :D
@rahulshah9993
@rahulshah9993 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry to disappoint you but square root of 3 isn't lonely at all , infact there are infinitely many numbers as close to it as you want 😊
@somebodyonce6063
@somebodyonce6063 5 жыл бұрын
(clapping )
@allenaegarcia3635
@allenaegarcia3635 5 жыл бұрын
David S. Cats eyes nebula.. nice
@TurnipBoy666
@TurnipBoy666 4 жыл бұрын
whoa
@adamn7409
@adamn7409 4 жыл бұрын
Hippasus: *discovers irrational numbers* God: wait that’s illegal
@iceenderman-fm4kb
@iceenderman-fm4kb 4 жыл бұрын
Let √4=p/q(here,p and q don't have common factor) q√4=p 4(q^2)=p^2 So,as q^2 times 4 is p^2 we can say that p=4a 4(q^2)=(4a)^2 4(q^2)=16a^2 q^2=4a^s Does, this means√4 is irrational number
@thesushi1947
@thesushi1947 4 жыл бұрын
@Agrim Verma Assume √4 = p/q where p and q are coprime and are both integers q√4 = p 4q² = p² Already we can find two coprime integers, with q = 1 and p = 2 (or any pair where p =2q for that matter), to prove it so we can conclude that √4 can be written as 2/1 as those numbers satisfy our modified equation and so confirm the original assumption. Another variable wouldn't be needed to solve the equation like you had, but one was used in the video to illustrate that p was even rather than specifically a multiple of the radicand. This same reasoning can't work with √2 because no coprime integers can satisfy 2q² = p², and the same method can be applied to √n by finding (or proving that there aren't) any coprime integers to satisfy nq² = p².
@mohammadazad8350
@mohammadazad8350 4 жыл бұрын
@@iceenderman-fm4kb what you have done wrong is: 4(q^2)=p^2 means (p) is even but what you have done is assuming that p=4a since (a) is an integer 4a CANNOT be equal to 2 which means that you eliminated the only possible answer (2) what you must do instead is: let p=2a(a is an integer) then 4(q^2)=(2a)^2 => 4(q^2)=4(a^2) => q^2=a^2 => q=a => √4=p/q=2a/a=2 notice that you can't prove that q is odd or even since it's equal to an integer (a) which can be either even or odd and it turns out that it's odd(1)
@NewCalculus
@NewCalculus 3 жыл бұрын
He couldn't have because "irrational numbers" don't exist in mathematics. Chuckle.
@MrTeen-ul7yc
@MrTeen-ul7yc 3 жыл бұрын
@@iceenderman-fm4kb Absolutely not! The implication from Step 3 to Step 4 is incorrect. 4(q^2)=p^2 does not imply p=4a. Consider values p = 6 and q = 3. Then q^2 = 9 and 4(q^2) = 36 = p^2. But p is 6, which is not divisible by 4. Notice how q itself became a factor of p which already contradicts the initial assumption. In general if the square of a number is divisible by 4 then that does not necessarily imply that the number is also a multiple of 4. Any number that is congruent to 2 or 0 mod 4 will become congruent to 0 mod 4. What you've proved is not that √4 is irrational. Interestingly, the contradiction you've arrived at proves that the first assumption is false. That is p and q must have common factors specifically in this case that either p | q or q | p. which can then be reduced to the trivial form where the denominator is 1, at which point you're just saying n = n/1.
@adityakhanna113
@adityakhanna113 8 жыл бұрын
the lesson by "Ganesh Pi"
@salehsalem9638
@salehsalem9638 8 жыл бұрын
+Wizard Johnson I don't think that was the reference or joke there. The original commenter spelled the last name wrong deliberately to show the irrational... I don't even know why I'm explaining this
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@InfinityLearn_NEET
@InfinityLearn_NEET 8 жыл бұрын
Good one Aditya! I will make sure our founder reads this comment :)
@kronk5866
@kronk5866 8 жыл бұрын
Illuminati confirmed
@RoyalDog214
@RoyalDog214 6 жыл бұрын
Ganesh 3.141592653589
@VikasVJois
@VikasVJois 8 жыл бұрын
Nice proof and illustration/animation
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@InfinityLearn_NEET
@InfinityLearn_NEET 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vikas, our founder collaborated with TED-Ed to create this lesson :)
@YathishDhavala
@YathishDhavala 8 жыл бұрын
Why is Hippasus's time shown as 8 BC? He belonged to 5th Century BC.
@sauceaddict9569
@sauceaddict9569 5 жыл бұрын
Don't Memorise wierd flex but ok😂😂
@elee2968
@elee2968 4 жыл бұрын
Not their proof.
@FrancisACNH
@FrancisACNH 4 жыл бұрын
“The gods did not appreciate being contradicted” They’re just like parents and r/dankmemes members: They destroy whoever disagrees with them, even when losing an argument
@sriramradhakrishna878
@sriramradhakrishna878 4 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much all of Reddit at this point tbh
@FrancisACNH
@FrancisACNH 4 жыл бұрын
Sriram Radhakrishna Yeah, mostly dankmemes tho
@Blurrybob
@Blurrybob 4 жыл бұрын
Can't help but agree
@FlyAVersatran
@FlyAVersatran 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I have a degree in applied mathematics and have never heard this pontificated so well. Thank you.
@tarunkumarcs2374
@tarunkumarcs2374 Жыл бұрын
@@harshitabhagat8467 ig cbse has it in 9th also
@NOOBCRASTINATOR69
@NOOBCRASTINATOR69 Жыл бұрын
@@tarunkumarcs2374 ICSE in 7th grade.. I was like wait I've proved that!!!
@Puggalug
@Puggalug 8 жыл бұрын
Good, now cover negative numbers, imaginary/complex numbers, hyperreals, surreals, and split octonians!
@rnyjizzle
@rnyjizzle 8 жыл бұрын
Well square root of a negative number should be quite obvious to realise
@ptyamin6976
@ptyamin6976 8 жыл бұрын
What is a split octonian?
@GoldenKingStudio
@GoldenKingStudio 8 жыл бұрын
Something he most likely read on Wikipedia. You don't need to worry about it, I doubt he could explain it to you. (If the guy actually knows it, I don't mean to offend him, I was just making a joke because he rattled off a list of semi-related math terms that all happen to be linked together in Wikipedia. I wouldn't have known about many of those concepts without Wikipedia, so I am not trying to sound better.) An octonion (he spelled it incorrectly) is an extension of complex numbers into an 8 dimensional number line, like how real numbers are on one number line, and complex numbers have two number lines, octonions have 8 that represent them. They have lots of special properties that make them interesting to mathematicians, and split octonions are similar to octonions in that they are 8 dimensional, but they are made by different rules, to put it simply. Like how complex numbers have a + bi, where i is the square root of 1, split octonions have 8 parts to them. I don't really know that much about them or why these particular definitions are useful, but there is a basic rundown. There is a method of construction that allows for the generation of lots of arbitrary algebras, but this particular one must have some special properties.
@Puggalug
@Puggalug 8 жыл бұрын
+GoldenKingStudio Yes, you're partially right. I did spell octonion wrong, and I wouldn't have been able to explain them. But I didn't get those concepts from Wikipedia - I got them from an awesome KZbinr that combines drawing and math named Vihart, in a video explaining why 0.9(repeating) is equal to 1.
@GoldenKingStudio
@GoldenKingStudio 8 жыл бұрын
Puggalug That was a very good video, yes. Glad to see another fan.
@AnantMall
@AnantMall 8 жыл бұрын
"instead of adhering to norms decided to prove it was something new" In that world at that time doing this would take immense courage!
@polaroidstyles9348
@polaroidstyles9348 8 жыл бұрын
even in our world now tbh(:
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@sohamacharya171
@sohamacharya171 3 жыл бұрын
In any world at any time actually
@chaotickreg7024
@chaotickreg7024 2 жыл бұрын
For all humans always actually
@igb5551
@igb5551 8 жыл бұрын
Please, never stop doing this videos, they are too good
@minhaslpu
@minhaslpu 8 жыл бұрын
I am a tutor and was teaching number systems to my students. They couldn't understand much and then TED made this Video(so GLAD) and i showed this video to them and believe me, they understood everything :) Thanks TED for making our life easier :)
@InfinityLearn_NEET
@InfinityLearn_NEET 8 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that Rajat. Our founder was the educator for this lesson. Thank you :)
@margaretbonassar709
@margaretbonassar709 3 жыл бұрын
“The gods cursed a human for a proof of contradiction” was not the geometry hot take I was expecting today but it is welcome nonetheless
@KeqingMain278
@KeqingMain278 8 жыл бұрын
Well played, Hippasus.
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@XenophonSoulis
@XenophonSoulis 6 жыл бұрын
Hippasus was NOT punished by any god, but by his fellow Pyrhagoreans.
@syncradar
@syncradar 3 ай бұрын
SUS
@kfarbarata
@kfarbarata 18 күн бұрын
@@XenophonSoulis when u lidering a cult, ppl see u as god, lol, ask donnald duck 'bout his trip in mathmagic land
@TheGamerzXChannel
@TheGamerzXChannel 8 жыл бұрын
Great abstract video 🙂 please make more of them, they are the juice for my brains!
@lazybacon5282
@lazybacon5282 4 жыл бұрын
0:27 The man has blonde hair is doing the floss
@JoseAngelC
@JoseAngelC 8 жыл бұрын
Great! finally another narrator!
@alfonsogarcia608
@alfonsogarcia608 Жыл бұрын
Lovely video, clear, concise and with subtle humour. Thank you!
@Rav3r916
@Rav3r916 8 жыл бұрын
wow. the animation is amazing. really great for visual learners.
@VEROTIKAA
@VEROTIKAA 8 жыл бұрын
wow omg really so beautifully put and explained in such simplistic mode that never once had i even thought to put it like that but now that i see it it makes sense wow gteat video thank you from the bottom of my heart even my 7 yearr old understood thank you
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@ThomasNimmesgern
@ThomasNimmesgern 8 жыл бұрын
+Cat Irrational cat is here again! Want some pi?
@InfinityLearn_NEET
@InfinityLearn_NEET 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@molchat139
@molchat139 2 жыл бұрын
@@ASOUE miaou
@W.M.-
@W.M.- 7 жыл бұрын
really well made video, was hoping for a geometrical proof though seeing as algebra wasn't discovered in 5 BC
@chronic295
@chronic295 8 жыл бұрын
These lessons never dissapoint!
@RK-ep8qy
@RK-ep8qy 8 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling a little…irrational now
@jehovaservant_591
@jehovaservant_591 8 жыл бұрын
+Ropsana Khanom HA HA HA HA HA HA. Punny.
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@terryendicott2939
@terryendicott2939 7 жыл бұрын
Have some Pi and you can be transcendental.
@et496
@et496 7 жыл бұрын
I'll give you a 3.1415926535897932.
@primacahyadi4354
@primacahyadi4354 6 жыл бұрын
Same here
@dsc4178
@dsc4178 6 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting paradox: the length of the hypotenuse is always a set, specific length, and the diameter and circumference of a circle are too; yet irrational numbers are not in any real way a specific length.
@birawaich
@birawaich 8 жыл бұрын
That was a really great TED-Ed, loved the animation on this one :) (and the topic)
@D0GBOOT
@D0GBOOT 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this so easy to understand, it was very helpful!
@Piyushks02
@Piyushks02 6 жыл бұрын
The Animation was so Dope!
@jonbenge2383
@jonbenge2383 8 жыл бұрын
This made so much more sense than when I was in high school. I wish my teacher had explained concepts like this much more clearly instead of saying "Because they are not rational"; probably would have gotten a better grade... Thanks Ted!
@orangepaint
@orangepaint 4 жыл бұрын
This was so beautiful to watch. Thank you!
@finalislytan8342
@finalislytan8342 5 жыл бұрын
Narration is done in a very good and clear way
@djr5995
@djr5995 8 жыл бұрын
Making *sense* of *irrational* numbers . . . . . I see what you did there
@iceenderman-fm4kb
@iceenderman-fm4kb 4 жыл бұрын
Let √4=p/q(here,p and q don't have common factor) q√4=p 4(q^2)=p^2 So,as q^2 times 4 is p^2 we can say that p=4a 4(q^2)=(4a)^2 4(q^2)=16a^2 q^2=4a^s Does, this means√4 is irrational number because here , 2q=p And q=2a And this means both p and q are even and have as common factor which cannot be true since contradicts the fact that p and q cannot have a common factor
@legofan431
@legofan431 8 жыл бұрын
very awesome animations, I really learned somehting today that 13 years of school didn't teach me
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@XenophonSoulis
@XenophonSoulis 6 жыл бұрын
Woof
@iceenderman-fm4kb
@iceenderman-fm4kb 4 жыл бұрын
Let √4=p/q(here,p and q don't have common factor) q√4=p 4(q^2)=p^2 So,as q^2 times 4 is p^2 we can say that p=4a 4(q^2)=(4a)^2 4(q^2)=16a^2 q^2=4a^s Does, this means√4 is irrational number because here , 2q=p And q=2a And this means both p and q are even and have as common factor which cannot be true since contradicts the fact that p and q cannot have a common factor
@eladidu3
@eladidu3 2 жыл бұрын
@@iceenderman-fm4kb "as q^2 times 4 is p^2 we can say that p=4a" no, that is false
@min11benja
@min11benja 7 жыл бұрын
WOW! I never really understood irational numbers this well! Animation is a powerfull thing
@prof.einsteindarcy3951
@prof.einsteindarcy3951 8 жыл бұрын
Great job guys! I have a much clearer understanding of irrational numbers now! Wish all my classes were like this:)
@Supremebubble
@Supremebubble 8 жыл бұрын
Even more interesting is that it is impossible to plot the number pi on the real number line with only using ruler and compass. Same goes for the number e. These are called transcendental numbers however the proof is rather complicated.
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@hawkecrail5186
@hawkecrail5186 8 жыл бұрын
Well... You could technically plot it it would just be not exactly perfect
@hyrekandragon2665
@hyrekandragon2665 7 жыл бұрын
It has to be exact though. If you can't do it with absolute and exact precision using a straight edge and a compass, then it is transcedental.
@Arkalius80
@Arkalius80 7 жыл бұрын
It's not hard to prove pi is transcendental after you prove e is (which is quite hard). It is known that a transcendental number raised to an algebraic power other than 0 will produce a transcendental number. We know that e ^ (i * pi) = -1, and we know e is transcendental and -1 is algebraic. So, that means i * pi must not be algebraic. Since i is algebraic, pi must be transcendental.
@martind2520
@martind2520 6 жыл бұрын
@Alex Chuoy That is incorrect. the cube root of 2 is not transcendental but cannot be constructed using compass and straight-edge either. All transcendental numbers cannot be constructed but that does not mean that all numbers that cannot be constructed are transcendental.
@V3nky_
@V3nky_ 2 жыл бұрын
3:26 Ohhh!! That Activity did in School 👍🏼
@deday6525
@deday6525 8 жыл бұрын
awesome animation! !! thank you ted ed !!!
@mirdochegal4598
@mirdochegal4598 8 жыл бұрын
I love this video!! The style it is made of and the narrator are very nice :) Plus the explanation also made it very clear how this all happened ^^
@niory
@niory 8 жыл бұрын
I have such a bad relationship with math and feel sorry for it
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@XenophonSoulis
@XenophonSoulis 6 жыл бұрын
+Cat Woof +sara meachel At least you know what you lose (unlike others who don't know that).
@joshua50101
@joshua50101 5 жыл бұрын
does it remind you about your "x" since you don't know "y" she left you?
@nabila7628
@nabila7628 4 жыл бұрын
So I have finally found one of the inventors of math *discreetly adds him to hit list *
@Morningstar_37
@Morningstar_37 2 жыл бұрын
@QuantumRat2005 Legends say they already have a time machine. And I believe these legends because they come from extinct cultures all around the world, with millenials old stones spelling the name "Nabila" in English
@verdessence
@verdessence 2 жыл бұрын
@MthYsdAsd throw him with statue of numbers
@thompson5085
@thompson5085 7 жыл бұрын
This is really cool! We're learning about Pi in class and I'm going to show this to my teacher!
@muffinszss
@muffinszss 8 жыл бұрын
Such amazing animation
@CsVipar4
@CsVipar4 8 жыл бұрын
Great animation
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@basicnpcc
@basicnpcc 8 жыл бұрын
Discrete mathematics at its finest.
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@ptyamin6976
@ptyamin6976 8 жыл бұрын
What is discrete math?
@basicnpcc
@basicnpcc 8 жыл бұрын
PT Yamin A sub-set of mathematics like trigonometry or algebra. Discrete math is where the proofs come from for our mathematical equations. In math, we need to prove everything that we do. Through methods like induction proofs, we can do this. For example, you can prove that the square root of two is irrational like in the video. If you want to be a Computer Science major in college or maybe a Math major, this class will probably be required.
@willnewman9783
@willnewman9783 7 жыл бұрын
This whole video has nothing to do with discrete mathematics.
@hewhomustnotbenamed5912
@hewhomustnotbenamed5912 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Gaben is that you if so please answer my prairs release left 4 dead 3 half life 3 and the pyro update for tf2
@Spamster3212
@Spamster3212 8 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel, I'm very glad I found it.
@yutikasingh5443
@yutikasingh5443 Жыл бұрын
Everything is making sense. Great explanation.
@LeHoangBac
@LeHoangBac 5 жыл бұрын
3:44 Ooh, the golden ratio.
@crweewrc1388
@crweewrc1388 Жыл бұрын
I think it's called The Spiral Of Theodorus.
@abhijeettalukdar5004
@abhijeettalukdar5004 3 жыл бұрын
We also proved this I am a 10th standard student from India
@safaesafae6041
@safaesafae6041 6 жыл бұрын
thank you another great video from TED ED It's amazing and irrational how much you make maths easy
@bekir8504
@bekir8504 4 жыл бұрын
Realy good explanation...thanks
@polaroidstyles9348
@polaroidstyles9348 8 жыл бұрын
Love this
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII
@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII 8 жыл бұрын
Love you
@polaroidstyles9348
@polaroidstyles9348 8 жыл бұрын
+Cat omg i love your account ahaha
@polaroidstyles9348
@polaroidstyles9348 8 жыл бұрын
+Don Draper lmao ily too
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
+polaroidstyles Meow! (that mean ily 2)
@experienceeverything4841
@experienceeverything4841 3 жыл бұрын
Only Indian students will know that we have the proof of this in our class 10 syllabus.
@anjanaratnala1079
@anjanaratnala1079 3 жыл бұрын
Exactlyyyy!!!!!
@garydunken7934
@garydunken7934 8 жыл бұрын
Finally finally finally.... a good explanation if irrational numbers. Well done.
@lexinaut
@lexinaut 8 жыл бұрын
Quite nicely presented and relevant. As an educator, I still find that irrational numbers make people . . . nervous! However, from my reading, no one apparently knows precisely which irrational number Hippasus either proved was irrational, or revealed was irrational (if someone else proved it). Root 2, of course, is a very likely candidate, since it is present in a simple unit square. For this reason, I commonly call Root 2 "the Monster in the Unit Square (with comical yet serious intent). I agree! We should appreciate the adventure of irrational numbers rather than excessively fearing them! Mathematics is a great adventure indeed! Have a great day!
@memine226
@memine226 8 жыл бұрын
irrational number like square root 2 is fine. but the real problem is Transcendental number. it is NOT a root of a non-zero polynomial equation with rational coefficients. We can't use a nice simple formula to express it. Except using a symbol like pi or e, not really much we can do... Yet they are so useful and powerful!
@mmae8266
@mmae8266 6 жыл бұрын
Me Mine im first befor that *CAT*
@hithere-nk1ee
@hithere-nk1ee 4 жыл бұрын
I watch all these ted-ed videos but never really understand them
@channel-wf1ev
@channel-wf1ev 3 жыл бұрын
try to "split" every explication to understand the video
@jonahcarter196
@jonahcarter196 6 жыл бұрын
2 points response to Making sense of irrational numbers-Ganesh Pai The things I learned from this video is the history of irrational numbers and better ways to solve irrational numbers. the message the narrator was trying to send out was decimals and ratios are only ways to express numbers. What I was thinking about while watching this video are ways to solve irrational numbers and how I can understand it. I likes that at the very beginning she mentioned the philosopher Hippasus and his discovery towards mathematics.
@naveedahsan7315
@naveedahsan7315 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the knowledge beyond textbooks.
@davidribosome4326
@davidribosome4326 4 жыл бұрын
video: anything times 2 is even me: 2.5 x 2 video; wait thats illegal
@cletuslopes159
@cletuslopes159 8 жыл бұрын
The irony That the person who made this videos is ganesh Pai(pie)
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@ankurama42
@ankurama42 8 жыл бұрын
how is that irony?
@hijack69
@hijack69 8 жыл бұрын
His surname seems a bit irrational
@InfinityLearn_NEET
@InfinityLearn_NEET 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, and Ganesh Pai/Pie/Pi loves math :)
@seshasayeesudharsan7938
@seshasayeesudharsan7938 3 жыл бұрын
This is such an awesome way to teach irrational numbers
@infundere
@infundere 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, incredible animations! I'd love to learn to animate mathematics like this someday.
@diba4707
@diba4707 4 жыл бұрын
Came here for a Math’s video , Got a history lecture instead
@canilogin1730
@canilogin1730 4 жыл бұрын
The number "e", aka Euler's Number: "A M I A J O K E T O Y O U?"
@KulvinderSingh-pm7cr
@KulvinderSingh-pm7cr 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained!!
@strugglingmuslimah2570
@strugglingmuslimah2570 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome animation and expalined very well
@TrueInvisible
@TrueInvisible 8 жыл бұрын
conclusion doing math = you go to hell , to hell with math "literally"
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@arifahmed8208
@arifahmed8208 6 жыл бұрын
i believe if u dont do maths then u go to hell😝😝
@bharathiaravindakshan8295
@bharathiaravindakshan8295 6 жыл бұрын
Math is fun
@amarsinghsidhu7028
@amarsinghsidhu7028 5 жыл бұрын
Sickness!
@pooside_theofficialchannel1932
@pooside_theofficialchannel1932 5 жыл бұрын
be careful!!!! I think there are still people who believe in maths as a religion!!!!
@anveshasingh8672
@anveshasingh8672 3 жыл бұрын
I love pretending that I understand these videos!
@shreeshaskoushik1890
@shreeshaskoushik1890 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dummmylog3070
@dummmylog3070 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the bits
@nuetralkitty58
@nuetralkitty58 Жыл бұрын
3:43 That's a square root spiral right? I had an art integration activity in maths for that. It's seriously amazing how numbers can be connected to concepts like art, music, cosmology etc. I wonder if we will ever find a way to define irrational numbers? There IS a lot of freedom in maths after all.
@crweewrc1388
@crweewrc1388 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@kaylinealsen2651
@kaylinealsen2651 4 жыл бұрын
Narrator: "Don't be afraid to explore the impossible." Me: *fails Math test*
@d.akiehs
@d.akiehs 4 жыл бұрын
Kayline Alsen same 😭
@ucbinhcam3871
@ucbinhcam3871 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Oh! I hate Maths...
@chris_tzikas
@chris_tzikas 8 жыл бұрын
I feel clever now cause I knew the answer lol
@NewCalculus
@NewCalculus 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you didn't! www.linkedin.com/pulse/%25CF%2580-%25CE%25B4%25CE%25B5%25CE%25BD-%25CF%2583%25CE%25B7%25CE%25BC%25CE%25B1%25CE%25AF%25CE%25BD%25CE%25B5%25CE%25B9-%25CE%25B1%25CF%2581%25CE%25B9%25CE%25B8%25CE%25BC%25CF%258C%25CF%2582-john-gabriel/
@brainded653
@brainded653 2 жыл бұрын
@@NewCalculus shut up
@greglee7708
@greglee7708 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation, cheers
@bluebyrd1300
@bluebyrd1300 2 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating 🤯
@sumaiyaiqbal4345
@sumaiyaiqbal4345 8 жыл бұрын
can we appreciate the fact that the lesson is by ganesh 'Pi' :P
@nadiaxantho
@nadiaxantho 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice that! :0
@jeromeorji1057
@jeromeorji1057 8 жыл бұрын
When does Life of Ganesh Pai come out?
@InfinityLearn_NEET
@InfinityLearn_NEET 8 жыл бұрын
Soon! :)
@terrariaman8454
@terrariaman8454 5 жыл бұрын
Never*
@hrag03
@hrag03 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, really so beautifully, clearly put and explained in such simplistic way. My teachers used to tell me that I should always "remember" that sqrt(2) is irrational and cannot be shown in a rational way. But after watching the proof, now everything started to make sense. I wonder if every problem has a solution, then why can't this irrational numbers have solutions too? Also there may be other numbers in the infinite set that are in a similar condition to sqrt(2) that cannot be proven.
@Grizzly01-vr4pn
@Grizzly01-vr4pn 6 ай бұрын
There certainly are. At present, it is not known (and therefore unproven) if π + e, πe, π/e, π^e, π^√2 or ln π are irrational or not.
@anuradhamukherjee8923
@anuradhamukherjee8923 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video
@jordantan2543
@jordantan2543 8 жыл бұрын
now i know where the word rational comes from
@religionbuster7180
@religionbuster7180 8 жыл бұрын
Seriously dude? You should go back prep
@eugenekudlanov3128
@eugenekudlanov3128 8 жыл бұрын
+Jordan Tan It comes from ur mum because she was telling me to talk mathematical to her
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@BionicKing
@BionicKing 8 жыл бұрын
Rational comes from the Latin, "ratio," meaning reason. How the heck did you figure that out just by watching this video?
@soggytoasty
@soggytoasty 8 жыл бұрын
LOL SAME. i always thought rational came with the word ration and ration means a portion of food so i thought its just a unique word of its own
@leonardohelveciodeoliveira5233
@leonardohelveciodeoliveira5233 5 жыл бұрын
"Two times any number = an even number" what about 0.3 for an example
@samueltong8061
@samueltong8061 5 жыл бұрын
Whole number
@maryroserivera7946
@maryroserivera7946 5 жыл бұрын
can we get 1000 subscribers without content All decimals are even Because 0.3/2 = 0.15
@foteinezianni4172
@foteinezianni4172 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I like it a lot. Congrats
@kietpham4635
@kietpham4635 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to watch it over and over again
@Cloiss_
@Cloiss_ 7 жыл бұрын
This is a cool version of the proof, but it's not how Hippasus concluded this... there was no algebra in his time
@spencerpoore5805
@spencerpoore5805 8 жыл бұрын
Where is Anthony Anderson? I can't watch without his voice!!!
@awkweird_panda
@awkweird_panda 6 жыл бұрын
This was informative. Loved it.
@paerpo9577
@paerpo9577 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a comprehensible class🙄 Thnx 😁
@BagaJr
@BagaJr 8 жыл бұрын
3:42 When all of those triangles are drawn showing all the roots of integers, it kind of reminds me of something, but I can't quite remember what... is that from some other important math concept or am I just crazy?
@ArmandoMachado92
@ArmandoMachado92 8 жыл бұрын
+Baga Jr I saw it too. You are talking about the Fibonacci Sequence :)
@BagaJr
@BagaJr 8 жыл бұрын
Armando Machado I know each hypotenuse is the square root of a whole number and the outside edges are all 1, but I don't see where the fibonacci numbers come into play. What am I missing here?
@morethejamesx39
@morethejamesx39 8 жыл бұрын
+Baga Jr you're not thinking of complex numbers and how you can multiply them and find the product graphically using triangles are you?
@InfinityLearn_NEET
@InfinityLearn_NEET 8 жыл бұрын
It's the Spiral of Theodorus :)
@ArmandoMachado92
@ArmandoMachado92 8 жыл бұрын
Baga Jr I made a mistake. I totally forgot of what Don't Memorise said! The Spiral of Theodorus.
@rachanabaditha9618
@rachanabaditha9618 6 жыл бұрын
We learned this in school, and so I proved *Root 4* is irrational using the same method... ...my teacher was not pleased
@joijoi8782
@joijoi8782 5 жыл бұрын
Substitute p to 4 and q to 1 through the video
@devanshkamra5652
@devanshkamra5652 5 жыл бұрын
I know what you did......but there is one mistake.... You may have came across a result where you got 4q^2=p^2, from here you may have deduced that p must have 4 as its factor. But this law only applies to prime numbers. If p^2 has x as factor then p also has x as factor ONLY IF x is a prime number (try it out yourself)
@RahulMaru3507
@RahulMaru3507 5 жыл бұрын
root 4 is 2
@hijazisci
@hijazisci 5 жыл бұрын
Great work 👏👏👏👏💐
@catalonyking
@catalonyking 8 жыл бұрын
please don't upload any video without subtitles ! please please please :(
@catalonyking
@catalonyking 8 жыл бұрын
LagiNaLangAko23 but i don't understand all show .I am a novice in learning english
@babyfingers9874
@babyfingers9874 8 жыл бұрын
you can check the subtitles by clicking the 'CC' button. It is found where you see three dots on top of each other
@catalonyking
@catalonyking 8 жыл бұрын
Mikel Arenas but "CC" not available
@sophiejones7727
@sophiejones7727 8 жыл бұрын
it's not available on this video.
@babyfingers9874
@babyfingers9874 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, then that should put it on
@shrutigupta250
@shrutigupta250 5 жыл бұрын
- Ganesh PAI Why has nobody commented about it?
@terrariaman8454
@terrariaman8454 5 жыл бұрын
Dude loads of people have commented about it.
@samardev3725
@samardev3725 6 жыл бұрын
The video was informative :D Please make a video on the idea behind complex numbers
@midnightshaddow7612
@midnightshaddow7612 8 жыл бұрын
Hey guess you can say a lot in this world is made by numbers, specifially 1 and 0
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@jeromeeuler168
@jeromeeuler168 8 жыл бұрын
Actually everything is.
@XenophonSoulis
@XenophonSoulis 6 жыл бұрын
Woof
@alisonlaett9625
@alisonlaett9625 5 жыл бұрын
@@XenophonSoulis +Ξενοφώντας Σούλης +Cat Why are you guys writing the same meow woof thing on every comment? Are you bots?
@XenophonSoulis
@XenophonSoulis 5 жыл бұрын
@@alisonlaett9625 I'm trying to scare him/her, 'cause cats are afraid of dogs.
@OmnipotentO
@OmnipotentO 8 жыл бұрын
Until you try to divide by 0.
@ASOUE
@ASOUE 8 жыл бұрын
Meow
@khorps4756
@khorps4756 8 жыл бұрын
already did, the answer i got was...
@blabbityblah
@blabbityblah 8 жыл бұрын
Can't tell if joking or serious. Please confirm.
@ESL1984
@ESL1984 6 жыл бұрын
blabbityblah You can't divide by 0. Because if you could then let's assume it gives us a value like 3/0=a ok, then lets say 4/0=b so we move zero to the other side of each equation and we get that 4=0xb and 3=0xa we know that 0x(any number)=0 so 4=0 and 3=0 both don't make sense and also it implies that 4=3. All of this is nonsense, don't try to divide by 0 unless you are dealing with limits, that's completely another story.
@Multibe150
@Multibe150 6 жыл бұрын
JoSe74248 However, there is a number that you can safely divide by 0: 0. If you divide 0/0, your ecuation becomes 0x=0, and any number can fill this requirement.
@bronzejourney5784
@bronzejourney5784 4 жыл бұрын
How simple and smart is that? Great video, as always.
@BangMaster96
@BangMaster96 5 жыл бұрын
I wish school taught us math this way, it's so much more fun to learn this way, and now i actually want to learn about square roots and irrational numbers.
@MoneyXJatt
@MoneyXJatt 8 жыл бұрын
It's simple 2÷root 2 = root 2 lol 😁
@DekuStickGamer
@DekuStickGamer 8 жыл бұрын
My God...he's done it...
@Heropadopa
@Heropadopa 8 жыл бұрын
+Money Jatt I'm even more confused now.
@omkarchavan5940
@omkarchavan5940 8 жыл бұрын
then what about that root 2 in denominator....???
@mouradqqch1767
@mouradqqch1767 8 жыл бұрын
false. 2/sqrt (2) =/= sqrt (2)
@dirfgiS
@dirfgiS 8 жыл бұрын
+Mourad Qqch Of course it is, it can also be written as 2^1/2^(1/2) = 2^(1-1/2) = 2^(1/2) = sqrt(2)
@malinimurali7398
@malinimurali7398 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I learnt in school !!!!! Thanks Ted!
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