Making Star Wars a GIRL Brand Was a HUGE Mistake! Feat. Chris Gore |An Audience W/ The Queen Podcast

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La Reina Creole is a an American writer, content creator, and pop culture analyst. She is known for her witty and insightful commentary on science fiction, fantasy, and theme parks. She also hosts the KZbin channel La Reina Creole, where she discusses a variety of topics related to pop culture and fandom.
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[@AH-yu2pi]

The issue is that kids are taught words are violence and contradictions are assaults

[@VespoLiveGaming]

And then they are alsoi told "silence is violence" on top of it

[@docsavage8640]

That's a deliberate tactic that allows them to commit political violence and call it "free speech." See: "mostly peaceful protests" wherein cities burn and people due and no one is charged with a crime vs. actual peaceful protests where people are serving time for speaking out.

[@Dragblacker]

It's the twisted, mutated, end result of the notion that "Holocausts begin with words".

[@kylestephens4133]

I realized it was a huge mistake the first time I watched Force Awakens. I walked out of the theater and told my brother, "I think I am done with Star Wars." Even then I could see where it was all heading.

[@lance134679]

Women that used to like Star Wars before Disney liked it "as is" - there was no need to cater the movies specifically for them. But I don't think Disney were expecting that changing it to a girl brand would increase the audience size - the decision was purely ideological. Financially it makes as much sense as making Barbie a boy brand.

[@JeremiahHartmanPhotography]

Agreed...my gf lost interest in Star Wars and MCU after the "girl boss" makeover. She hates them now...even my kids hate it. We all just watch Old SW and MCU.

[@jasonpike5821]

Love Chris' point around 46:00 about empathy and being able to relate to characters who don't look like you. I look nothing like Denzel Washington, nor am I a parent, but I could relate to his character's motivation in John Q - a father willing to do anything to save his son. It's almost like Hollywood has come full circle from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and we're more concerned with the color of the character's skin (or their gender, sexuality, etc.) than we are with the content of their character.

[@ninjafoxgamesgeekery]

I bring this one up a lot. What was the biggest craze with boys across every race and nationality in the early 90s? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. None of those boys looked like a mutant turtle, so how did they relate to the characters? Let's take a roll through the 80s/90s childhood of American children, shall we? Get-Along-Gang, Care Bears, Muppet Babies, Transformers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, SWAT Kats, Sewer Sharks, Monster in My Pocket, Danger Mouse, Count Duckula, Loony Tunes, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Pinky & The Brain, Darkwing Duck, Duck Tales, Mrs. Frisby (Secret of NIMH), Ralph S Mouse & Stewart Little if you want to get into books, Road Rovers, Underdog, Tail Spin, Sonic the Hedgehog From Disney: Robin Hood, Fox & the Hound, Great Mouse Detective, Aristocats, 101 Dalmatians, Lion King, Oliver & Company, Rescuers What were the big, popular shows with humans? He-Man, GI Joe (diverse cast, btw), Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids It wasn't until Batman The Animated Series, X-Men, and Spider-Man TAS made their splash that things really started shifting more to cartoons featuring human protagonists. Us late 80s/early 90s kids had our formative years with characters that didn't look like us as a species, let alone skin color.

[@abhcoat]

Chris, nobody who has seen Pam Grier ever forgets her. Gorgeous lady.

[@SecretHero914]

Unfortunately, Kathleen Kennedy thought to do away with the heroes journey

[@thomasbolman375]

Chris made a great point about Modern Cinema. I miss all those simple films from the 70's and 80's. Smokey and The Bandit, Any Which Way You Can, Young Frankenstein, and even Animal House to name just a few. Simple, entertaining, and leaving no Sacred Cows un-butchered. You went, you laughed, you left without feeling like you got scammed. Now everything is by some contrived formula, based on a political philosophy, that is only embraced by something like 7 -12% of film goers. I always say "If I want to hear a sermon, I have a perfectly good church I attend one a week."

[@evalramman7502]

7 to 12 percent? I wonder, is it higher or lower than that? Hard time figuring out just how many people actually enjoy these DEI/Woke films.

[@thomasbolman375]

@@evalramman7502 Oh the percentage is higher of those how like DEI/Woke films. Where the rubber meets the road is in how many of them will spend money on DEI/Woke films. It's like Socialism. Sounds great, until you have to actually live with it.

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

Don't forget The Blues Brothers and Trading Places,(sigh),Landis was a filmmaking gawd until...😢

[@buckjones4901]

When Star Wars came out in 77-78, I was about 8 years old, there was nothing like it, it just blew me away. That started TV shows trying to jump on the bandwagon like BattleStar Galactica and Buck Rogers. There was not political message or agenda (outside of maybe selling toys) back then it was just entertainment and fun.

[@kevinhardy8997]

The exact moment I knew force Awakens was going nowhere when Finn is hyperventilating in the desert. WTF? The magic was gone.

[@CanadianSpiderMan]

Excellent show! Chris rocks and so do you! Cheers LRC!

[@melabbott1894]

Cool conversation. My wife has a similar mindset. She was a bigger Star Wars fan and she absolutely hates the new girl boss Star Wars, Indy, Marvel, etc.

[@czafft4309]

Love when you and Chris converse. More of this please!

[@mrscanlan.5016]

The done it to Marvel, which is now the MSHEPOO

[@thetetrarchofapathy9728]

@La Reina Creole Doomcock has an actor source who addressed one of your points today: this generation is so unable to see themselves in a character who isn't literally just like them that they deliberately only make self inserts spouting their ideas onscreen--and for their own agenda reasons, certain investors and corporate overlords keep hiving them a platform.

[@ninjafoxgamesgeekery]

Making Star Wars a GIRL brand is still mind boggling to me because I remember when Disney bought them. They had acknowledged they were a lock in with female audiences. Adult women were Disney loyal from decades of nostalgia and young girls were Disney loyal because the Disney princess lines were a standard easy win. You make a Disney princess movie, parents take their girls to see it and the girls will want the Disney princess merchandise. Shirts, lunch boxes, toys, whatever, they owned that market. They did not have the same market penetration with adult men and young boys. That was the core reason they bought Marvel and then Lucasfilm - to essentially add men and boys to the profits they already got from women and girls. And then they just......decided they wanted Marvel and Lucasfilm to cater to women's interest and make them revolve around women and feature women and promote women to attract women to those brands. To the excess of outright saying men needed to screw off and leave. They openly acknowledged their strategy from the start, then they went and just sabotaged that strategy. The women who loved Star Wars loved it from the 70s, 80s, and 90s through the Expanded Universe already. They're driving them away also. Hell, here's a single data point anecdote. My friend's older sister never cared about Star Wars, it was just a thing "her little brothers liked" to her. She finally got into them with the sequels and kind of clicked with her really liking Star Wars. Then she went back and watched the originals and told her brother (my friend) the originals were the best, prequels were fun, and the sequels - the sequels that got her INTO Star Wars - were kinda crap.

[@robwett1]

They first tried to penetrate into the male market by buying Power Rangers.

[@countofdownable]

As I keep pointing out to people, I grew up watching Japanese TV series based on Chinese folklore. Everyone was East Asian and I was a white kid. Likewise, my schoolmates and I all thought B.A. Baracus from the A-Team was the best even though we weren't Black.

[@ninjafoxgamesgeekery]

B.A. was the best because Mr. T himself is the best!

[@hansmemling2311]

Who could have thought that alienating your core fanbase, to pander to a non existing one, as a means to lure them in, would make you lose your original fanbase? Not me! ( he said sarcastically).

[@bolder2009]

Great point by Chris about the failings of Indy in Raiders as part of his character's arch on the he heroes journey. Something that could be expounded on in further discourse.

[@kitsorcerer]

In my hero academia, uravity will always be strong in my opinion which was earn during a fight she lost. It was against bakugo but omg she gave it all and even was dragging her injured body to continue. She was on the brink when a teacher called it. That showed more strength than any girl boss character

[@bolder2009]

Yes Lartington, great point about the inability of the Girl Boss archetype to learn.

[@ArronRatliff]

I grew up with female leading characters like Princess Leia Organa and Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor and Adrian Balboa. The writers in Hollywood today cant write characters fit to hold their bra straps. They were strong and compelling and lets be honest freaking beautiful. Not gonna lie i hated the hell outta Luke Skywalker for a long time when i was a kid cause he got a kiss on the cheek from Leia, I was a jealous little mofo 😂

[@SecretHero914]

We know a girl by the name of Anna Who goes by the KZbin name That Star Wars girl

[@SecretHero914]

Don’t forget the Mego Dolls

[@XaqNautilus]

I remember back when light sabers were cool.

[@Bostronix]

Delightful conversation

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video, La Reina & Chris...👍

[@mrscanlan.5016]

Ghost busters 2016 , toast busters, hehehe was female, bride maids was great , was all female so, it's the writing a people

[@TheCanadienMickeyMouse]

😎👍 great episode

[@nrrork]

And there's nothing wrong with movies that appeal to a more focused, specific niche or demographic. But they can't be bloated studio blockbusters that have to earn a billion dollars just to break even.

[@popstarprincess123]

Wait why isn’t there a stay at home mom Barbie I want one I searched homemaker barbie Just found a plain doll with a kitchen set

[@RealityCheck6969]

Feminism took over SW through Disney. They changed it in their image. And I hate it.

[@JeremiahHartmanPhotography]

Here's the thing...its OK and GOOD to have "Boy" stuff and "Girl" stuff. Women will watch MCU and Star Wars stuff with their boyfriend/husband. The number prove it..more women watched the original Star Wars and MCU BEFORE the "girl boss" makeovers.

[@happytravelling]

enjoyed the show. ty.

[@SecretHero914]

But goofy doesn’t have big lips like Jar Jar does

[@joseantoniomillabrito2764]

Chris Gore is in da house!!!!

[@tinaguzman8351]

Hello LaReina and Chris Gore

[@USALibertarian]

Ladies can appreciate entertainment with masculine energy. Men like actual women but males are NOT going to partake of entertainment that is full of feminine energy. And having masculine entertainment performed by all women is going to turn off BOTH men and women!!!

[@nrrork]

There's a 🌎 of difference between a movie that primarily appeals to boys and men versus a treehouse with a "NO GURLZ ALLOWED" sign hanging from it. It's like sports. Mostly men are sports fans, but we don't forbid women from sports bars and stadiums. It's always been known and accepted that a significant number of fans were women, even if they were in a minority. Say, a 70/30 or 80/20 split between male and female fans. Sound about right?

[@mrscanlan.5016]

WAS Star wars, now Star snores, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@timcarpenter7399]

Girls don’t like star wars

[@LaReinaCreole]

Um, did you watch the video? :)