When Stars Destroy Their Own Careers

[@Ergeniz]

Did Rachel even have a career to destroy in the first place? I'm not huge on the 'beautiful elite' but the Snow White debacle is the first time I heard of her.

[@foxboy6145]

You'd think she did, given how she acts. Especially funny, given ALL of her movies have bombed.

[@hellequinnz]

Spielbergs westside story was supposed to be a big deal and flopped hard with her in the lead role then Shazam2 was tracking to make a billion like the first one and flopped with her playing a main villian. Now she’s in hunger games, another solid franchise. Her acting is fine, not stellar. Her agent is clearly getting her good roles, but they just keep flopping.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

No, but she seems to have sucked the D of whoever has replaced weinstin since she was just out of the blue into multiple high profile movies

[@jamescarr1265]

@@hellequinnzher acting was great in West side story… it was legit a solid movie but the lead actor was accused of raping and grooming a minor and the press was super awkward after

[@jingwaglacius5518]

​@@hellequinnzno wonder these folks get by when folks think there acting is fine, if she had a normal job in construction with those skills the skyrise she built would collapse, there acting skills are bad, that's why when their opinion is equally bad, they light a furnace up their own ass and they deserve it at that point and to get blacklisted.

[@OptimalToast]

The whole Ezra Miller thing made me look at Hollywood differently, and more clearly than ever. It's not just the studio retaining him that's a problem, the entire industry is, it was more than happy to make excuses and/or completely overlook very real problems that brought about actual harm.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯💯

[@Dwight7984]

(👃🏻)

[@fubarmalarky3061]

Same with Will Smith at the Oscars. Hollywood applauding him hours after his violent attack.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@fubarmalarky3061 “We are no longer the cool kid.” - Jim Carrey. Man, he was a legend and so was his response the event

[@chasehedges6775]

@@fubarmalarky3061 I was never a big fan of him but Will Smith made me lose all respect for him for slapping Chris Rock. What a downfall

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

My dad always said “if someone tells you who they are, believe em” So Rachel proudly telling Jimmy “I’m a narcissist!” didnt shock me at all

[@Nava9380]

Iam your real Dad. Do you believe me?

[@aswinkrishna5042]

​@@Nava9380 No I'm his real dad

[@garak55]

There is a thing used in pschology research called the "Single Item Narcissim Test" and, as its name implies, it's a single question. The question is just basically : "On a scale from 1 to 10, how much of a narcissist do you think you are?". This test is less precise than a typical 40 question narcissism questionnaire but only just barely. So yeah, when people tell you they are one, you should really believe them.

[@DanteCrowlley]

I'm a transformer

[@NarutoSSj6]

Its giving people a chance when you dont know them. Its impolite to judge at first glance. Quote are all bullshit anyway, so take that shit with a grain of salt

[@Wickwok]

The fact Ezra Miller is still with Warner bros is a statement to how morally bankrupt and scummy Warner is. They drop Henry cavil and keep Ezra. I won’t be seeing anything coming from Warner anytime soon.

[@DaveRedsky]

What do you mean he's still with WB? 1st off WB doesn't exist anymore Do you live under a rock? 🤡

[@Wickwok]

@@DaveRedsky 1st off I don’t spend all day on the internet staying up on what studios own what franchises. I work for a living. I just know whoever owns DC dropped Henry Cavil but kept Ezra Miller. The fact you pointed that out as if that’s something that everyone knows and did so rudely indicates to me that you need to go outside more and maybe socialize with other humans a bit. 🤡

[@thecommercialarchive]

As far as I know, Ezra is no longer involved, it was recently announced that none of the Zack Snyder hired DCEU actors would be returning for James Gunn's reboot.

[@AdamDj-ic3kr]

​@@thecommercialarchivehonestly the only ones that I'm sad are getting replaced are gal Gadot and Jason Momoa ,the rest can go, especially ezra

[@kellharris2491]

Ezra wasn't even good. I don't know why they clung to him so much. He made the dumbest expressions.

[@cognitivedissidents4642]

Here what I don’t understand: the actors have teams comprised of an agent, a manager, a publicist, a lawyer, and an accountant, and more. Where are these professionals when it comes to telling their client to STFU?

[@ShaunFVG]

Easy. Fired lol. Because most actors are entitled nitwits who won't listen to anyone or take criticism. So most of their teams are just yes men. When ziggler did her snow white interview they all gave her the slay queen treatment rather than the "are you nuts?" Either way, they get paid though

[@Deadguy2322forreal]

Biting their tongues to avoid being fired.

[@FortuitusVideo]

With Zeigler, her comments were stacked into a short period to get the most publicity out before the strike happened and she was gagged by the union. So there was no way to course correct while more and more came out.

[@Markfr0mCanada]

There's a world of difference between telling your client to shut up and your client actually shutting up. I know a lawyer who takes public defender work during slow times, he has many idiot client stories.

[@cognitivedissidents4642]

@@Markfr0mCanada You’re not wrong, but celebrities are different because part of the faustian bargain they make is to have their image managed. That is why things like this didn’t happen under the old studio system, which exercised total control over actors’ lives.

[@kieraneric2549]

He said, “ what’d I tell you about the touching?” That means at some point before the interview, he actually told her, “ don’t touch me.”😂😂😂

[@josephsalmonte4995]

It's the look of disgust that gets me. She tapped him with her elbow, not slipped a finger in his bum 😂

[@The_Original_LBSwanson]

Right? And hos face was dead serious. 💀 wonder what the tea was on that?

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

@@The_Original_LBSwanson Have you ever worked with someone who is insufferable? It gets under your skin and lives down there.

[@therealfakecaptain7978]

With that elbow touching and the : "Right guys ?" she's trying way too hard to be "part of the gang".

[@Notawesomeatall7]

He said NO. Dont touch people. ​@@josephsalmonte4995

[@wishingwell12345]

As a society we need to stop rewarding narcissism. Stop watching the movies these people make and stop buying the products they shill for.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

rewarding narcisism is a standard instinct everyone has. Higher IQ people usually know when to suppress it. Lower IQ people follow the Kardasians

[@tjroelsma]

The problem is that our same society has hoisted these people on pedestals and adores them. Being an actor/actress used to be seen as a job: people with acting talent got hired to work in movies and/or series. Now some people arguably had more talent than others and an even smaller part of that group had the charisma that drew people to them. As a consequence, those people were praised and adored, but nobody mistook them for having a superior intellect just because they weer an actor/actress and there lies the problem we face these days. Nobody took what actors like Sylvester Stallone, Kurt Russell or even Clint Eastwood and Michael J. Fox thought about politics seriously, because they were "just" actors. Yet in present day some people seem to think that people like Brie Larson, Rachel Zegler and even frigging Ezra Miller are some kind of superior class that not only needs to be listened to as some kind of oracles, but that also needs to be protected from their own (mis)behaviour(s) at all costs. The bottom line in my opinion is that having acting talent doesn't automagically make people highly intelligent, morally superior or politically superior; they're just like "normal" people because they ARE normal people who are blessed with a specific talent.

[@jeffhickerson6450]

It appears we as a society have stopped.

[@dashx1103]

Also, keep hating on female stars. 🤪😜😝🤓😎😂😅🥹😀

[@DrCruel]

This is not about a revolution against oppressors. It's about someone putting feces in our feed. No one is eating this woke shit. People who don't like woke are vomiting it up, and people who like woke never pay for anything.

[@starlimitz2]

You forget Faye Valentine from the live action Cowboy Bebop. She basically did just as much, if not MORE damage than Rachel Zegler. It's kind of amazing how catastrophic it was.

[@MarvinPowell1]

The difference is Daniella Pineda a no-name nobody who Hollywood isn't giving a Roman Reigns level push towards making you "like." Hollywood legit thought people would flock to see Brie Larson and Rachel Zegler in movies, so went overboard with the hype and fake fans and bots on social media. They actually do this a lot; trying to artificially inflate the popularity of people like Sam Worthington, Jai Courtney, Jennifer Lawrence, Tessa Thompson, Jonathan Majors, or Ella Balinska. The music industry does it even more. Nobody in the real world likes Rachel Zegler just like nobody in eh real world listens to f*cking Drake songs. This even works on KZbin; if people upvote their own comments or get bots to like their videos; you'd be surprised how easily they can spike in "popularity."

[@haroldb1856]

Which do you hate more, the source material, the fans or making a successful show? Faye Valentine: Yes.

[@Heathcoatman]

Who? Cowboy bebop? Oh, anime. Facepalm

[@alsmith9853]

That woman's snarky social media upload where she abuses the fans should be required viewing for all studios, so they can design employment contracts for actors as a "don't ever do this"

[@kylekatarn5964]

The fact it has been forgotten about tells you all you need to know about the show's impact.

[@demontamerbf18]

I was finally able to know why that Rachel Zegler clip saying "Weird, weird" was being played so much by some KZbin channels, thanks.

[@egor102]

I always thought it was the cute face she makes while saying it but I only look at her superficially since shes such a superficial woman.

[@SR_4378]

You grossly mischaracterized the accusations against Kevin Spacey at 13:12 by stating he was found not guilty in a courtroom but that his career is still in the shitter despite that. To clarify, he was found not guilty in a British courtroom for charges brought against him on British soil. But he has plenty of assault accusations dating back decades from minors and adults on American soil that led to his continued downfall.

[@Enigma75614]

That’s what I said. Kevin Spacey may have been acquitted, but he’s still an absolute creep who deserves what happened to him.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

And that's only after the plaintiffs suddenly dropped dead within like a year of each-other.

[@Enigma75614]

@@DistractedGlobeGuy Yeah. He got incredibly lucky, and I hate that people are now acting like he was innocent.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

@@Enigma75614 yeah, that's what it was. """Luck""". He's """lucky""" like Ghislaine Maxwell.

[@jamescarr1265]

@@Enigma75614 exactly, it’s been known since early 2000s he’s always been hitting on minors

[@michaelfields7088]

I like how Rachel raised hell for not being invited to the Oscars and after complaining, she ends up at the Oscars. Entitled.

[@Jay-jb2vr]

Wow....

[@mck1972]

Yet Another reason to NOT watch the Oscars...

[@MR_THINQ]

More like she’s ’a spoiled brat’

[@coronalight77]

​@MR_THINQ no. Thats too nice. Original comment stands up better.

[@brandonscott5544]

SERIOUSLY HOLLYWOOD ACTRESS AND ACTORS RUINING THEIR CAREERS

[@polakcebulakfilip]

Well, she's honest at least when she said she is narcissistic...

[@MarvinPowell1]

That part's not even true, cause she said it unconsciously by-accident while on a talk show, but on social media, likes to pretend she's altruistic and a humanitarian.

[@rafaelvilas4230]

Man, i have some compassion to her. They have massacre her for all the Snow White thing, she have a bad and heavy time and she is very young. Hollywood is evil and the watchers, too.

[@kaiserftw]

@@MarvinPowell1 Thats called a Freudian slip.

[@Leamichellefan2244]

Yeah, but that’s the only thing she’s honest about.

[@itsblitz4437]

If she was a true narcissist, she would have never said that.

[@EricCabana-cj6se]

When Kevin Costner played Jim Garrison in JFK, he played the character very well. A character that believed JFK had been killed for reasons other than the official explanation. And yet, Costner himself really adheres to the official explanation. What he did was get into character as he was being paid for, and what he didn't do is bring his own vision of the story to the character. Also, he didn't campaign against the movie's subject treatment nor did he rant against moviegoers, and no one held a grudge against him. I still follow actors that said things I do not agree with, but, like Costner, they said it once, and didn't make a hill to die on out of it. Larson and Zegler are another beast. They explicitly said, repeatedly, that I was not their target audience. That I and everyone like me were, in short, despicable on many levels. Until I see that they have changed their point of view, I don't wish them ill, but, there is no reason for me to support whatever they might be doing. Consequences consequences. In short, we are STILL in a free society that has free market. I have the opportunity to chose what I consume. If it's not for me, that's it. If it's not for anyone, that's it. And as far as I know, being lectured isn't part of the enjoyment of watching a movie. You can challenge my views, yes. Give me substance to think about. But not lecturing me.

[@tkps]

Spot on. As an oldie I never thought I'd see lectures from Hollywood with US access media supporting it AGAINST the customer base. I've enjoyed HW films for many years including the old B/W 30's, 40's and 50's films. Actors then were media trained and knew bringing controversy to a project could earn them a contract suspension.Since the 80's activist types began pontificating on pet political projects during award acceptance speechs causing the Oscars to now have a speech time limit. Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon and Richard Gere spring to mind whilst back then HW & the public groaned. HW's forgotten you never publicly take sides in politics and religion when your job is to make money.

[@MrOrcshaman]

Its still hilarious to me, how these entitled brat stars today keep saying "This movie isn't for you, your not the target audience", and when ticket sales bomb and their movie fails because of their entitlement, they blame on the people they told you go away, not to watch their movies. Those kind of mental gymnastics should be studied, not praised.

[@piccoloatburgerking]

I think this is a sensible comment overall. The difference between acknowledging problems that exist in society and pushing to make a positive difference vs getting antagonistic about it and shining a very negative and solution-less light on it, that's where Larson and Zegler fumbled. I still want them to be better and succeed, absolutely no ill wishes but that's a change they have to bring on themselves.

[@dashx1103]

Uh … what?

[@JohnDoe-yr3lm]

The word you're looking for is "acting".

[@NuncleG]

My favourite analogy for the 18 hours in a Disney princess dress is like a carpenter that gets paid for building a table but also gets paid every time someone eats off of it.

[@Shtave3]

That's perfect

[@AdeelTariq0]

Yeah but a table can't be made once and sold to millions by a publisher or studio. The carpenter gets paid everytime he sells a table. Their is no corporation to make him do one table and then take his work and sell it to the masses.

[@dashx1103]

Ok. But a carpenter charges based on the usefulness of his creation over time ... right? A person doesn't pay a carpenter for a table based on having a single meal on that table. Does he? I don't think so. I think usefulness and use of the item is factored in to the cost of it. That just makes sense ... right? I know that kind of blows up your weird radical capitalist angle on this ... but I think it is what it is.

[@spenser9908]

Thing is, she could very well be right, but what's so gross is the attitude. She's a glorified lottery winner in her early 20s with more money than my family will make in several generations, acting like she's hard done by in this vitriolic fashion.

[@rbarnett3200]

I remember her whinging about wearing a costume and I’m sure people thought the same thing as me: “You’re getting paid an absolute mint to play dress up. Other people work in mines or are firemen or have legit difficult jobs that they’re underpaid for and they do it day in day out for years. You have to wear a dress and get paid millions for a few months work? Oh boo fucking hoo”

[@StefunnyStrange]

Although I don’t like Brie Larson, I’m happy with what you said about people needing to move past little incidents like that. It’s been years and she’s still being annihilated by the public especially the anti woke crowd. The woman’s career is ruined. Like, what else do people want? It’s beating a dead horse to continue bashing her like people do. Like damn. You’d think she did something atrocious.

[@robr.5044]

Yeah, I pretty much agree. Saying stupid stuff should not be a crime. At the same time, people are free to dislike actors and actresses based on what they said. Brie has been a bit smarter lately about knowing not to run her mouth. She still has time to turn things around with audiences.

[@Gamble661]

She's an actor....they say stupid things all the time. And while I find her a bit insufferable I'd go see a movie she's in if it was something I was interested in. The character she's playing is what you go to see, not the actual person playing them. And despite my dislike for some of the things she says she's not a bad actor...and she's hot.

[@robr.5044]

@@Gamble661 More power to you. She won’t see a dime of my money.

[@sharkboy6952]

I agree, but her biggest problem is that Captain Marvel wasn't a good character and she wasn't able to make it better than what was on it page. In fact, she probably made it worse. If people had liked the character, it wouldn't have been an issue for her.

[@freddiefackelmayer5267]

So only liberals are allowed to cancel people? We should just ignore it and watch the slop she's in as some nebulous attempt at being "the bigger man"? No if they're gonna do it, we're gonna do it. Because they are never gonna stop

[@mikeylicksit]

rachel zegler the "waking, talking, oof machine" sounds spot on. weird, weird.

[@luisrizo8813]

Codi Vore

[@kwk111]

"I'm a narcissist! 😆" My god... it has become self-aware

[@Aaliyahchannel2024]

Terminator theme plays

[@hayleysantos3648]

A real narcissist wouldn’t blatantly call themselves a narcissist and calling anybody an it is acc disgusting no matter who they are and what they’ve done they are still a person

[@gerdsfargen6687]

AI is all kinds of crazy these days 😂😂😂

[@kwk111]

@@hayleysantos3648 I'm not actually calling Rachel an it. It was an AI joke.

[@hayleysantos3648]

@@kwk111 okay explain it to me again. I’m not fully grasping what the joke is or the comparison

[@iithax01]

Its crazy how the lead for scream got fired and this girl is still running her mouth bashing her own film

[@krixpop]

Morals are a big no-no in Not-Holly-but-weird today's movie industry...

[@savioblanc]

Depends on what you are saying and who you're saying it to. Can't say sh*t against your masters. Can say what you want at the peasants who pay to see your crap

[@jaymantisgaming]

there is no force in this universe more destructive and devastating than a woman rejected

[@marcogenovesi8570]

did she go against the small hats yet? Because that's what got Barrera fired from Scream (shortly after that, Jenna Ortega also dropped out)

[@hayleysantos3648]

The lead girl for scream definitely didn’t deserve to get fired but Rachel did nothing wrong to not deserve the roles she’s had. Two very different scenarios buddy

[@Shrekster5E]

All she had to do was say: "The movie is great. Please come watch us." That's it.

[@melissaperez5370]

exactly it's not hard

[@owls9185]

Silly woman, how dare she speak, she should just smile and look pretty!

[@citizenvulpes4562]

​@@owls9185 More like, "don't disrespect the classic fairy tale movie Snow White, especially if you're gonna be in the main role" Really not that hard. Really sick of people like you trying to imply I'm sexist, when in reality I just see how much of a disrespectful little shit she is.

[@amb_.]

@@owls9185sometimes, yes. That is what you should do.

[@aerith119]

@@amb_. lmao

[@SansoHumar]

“ I’m a narcissist!!” 😂😂😂😂 Yes you are.

[@ratboy3679]

She's only been in 3 movies, all lost $, 4 if u count snow white....she has no room to push her weight around.

[@mc1993]

She still gets paid regardless what the movie pulls in.

[@FunPicard]

It's baffling. It's likely Hunger Games won't pull amazing money, and so will Snow White is already mired in controversy and likely to have an out of control budget. For some reason Hollywood wants her to be a hit.

[@haroldb1856]

Hollywood is her ally. And a powerful ally it is.

[@jackmesrel4933]

@@FunPicard Cus she's a diversity hire. Like that black ginger woman who was on Willow and had the acting range of a frog

[@marekknieshtschav6391]

@@mc1993 yeah, but once producers learn she is box office poison, they will drop her like a hot potato.

[@alphacause]

Actors and actresses live in a world where they are rewarded for how convincing they are in fabricating an illusion for us. They are rewarded for pretending to be something they are not. So it stands to reason that many of them can delude themselves into thinking that their existence and their opinions are more important than the common man and woman, and that it would behoove us to listen to them. The only antidote to this problem is for all members of the viewing public to stop listening to actors and actresses, as they dispense their opinion on matters of politics and culture. We, as paying customers of their work, need to shatter their insular world.

[@haroldb1856]

Ignoring them may be effective for individuals, but does nothing to counter their corrosive effect on public discourse. There is a social benefit to raising awareness about their sanctimony, hypocrisy and mendacity.

[@Vecchio_Rhosod85]

Daniel Day-Lewis had it right all along. We knew next to nothing about his personal life or opinions, and we the audience saw him as nothing but who he was portraying onscreen.

[@alphacause]

@@Vecchio_Rhosod85 Great point. Its one of the reasons why he is considered one of the greatest actors of the past few generations.

[@PikaLink91]

Heck you don't even need to be an actor og actress to have people believe your opinion is more important than your own. There's a reason youtubers constantly disclaim that "their opinions are their own and aren't better or worse than yours".

[@tkps]

Today their biggest mistake next to forgetting never comment on politics/religion if your job is pleasing as many customers as possible, is claiming you can only play a role if you possess most of the characteristics already, so play yourself. Going so far as to remove (then replace due to pushback) dwarves from SW by equating fairytale characters with humans which they in no way ever resembled. Any more than goblins or orcs. Well until HW/the US decided both HP's goblins and Tolkien's orcs had human equivalents then got angry about it when European authors raised on 100s of years of fairy tales wouldn't have given such comparison a 2nd thought. It takes a certain type of mind to 'go there'.

[@Cheesehead_Caleb]

Small correction on Kevin Spacey. He wasn't found not *guilty* he was found not *liable*. Guilt is only ever established in a criminal case. A lawsuit is civil. There's a multitude if factors at play there so we can never really know for sure whether he did it or not.

[@thefruch7588]

It was a also a minor involved in the case so it’s pretty bad all around

[@iro6758]

Yes we can... The requirements for finding someone liable in a civil suit are a fraction of what's required for a criminal trial. If they couldn't make it stick with the lowest standards legally available - he, very-obviously, didn't do it.

[@Cheesehead_Caleb]

@iro6758 That's true, but a lot goes into a trial. I'm not saying that he probably did or didn't do it. Just saying that without having been in that court room we have no way of knowing why he was found not liable. Quality of lawyers plays a HUGE factor in the outcomes of cases like this.

[@joshdawson5850]

Doesn’t really matter, he 100000000% did it

[@Dimebag_Darrell420]

He has connections with the big guys, whether he did it or not they will make it work out in court

[@gurgamous]

larsons whole wrinkle in time bs was a textbook example of a genetic fallacy. Essentially, she says your negative opinion of something she supports is invalid because of your identity, not your actual argument. This, of course, is idiotic and part of why most people find her very unlikable.

[@CookieManCookies]

Spot on, people go to movies for a good time, not to be indoctrinated into woke politics.

[@Assywalker]

No it's not. You just collectively decided she meant something different than what she actually said. Her argument really just is: If you're part of a group that normally wouldn't care for or like this kind of product, your opinion on the quality of said product (which is always going to be heavily subjective, no matter how hard you tell yourself otherwise) is just not nearly as valuable to the producer or other customers. This is just common sense and one of the most important rules in market research: Ask your core audience! And "the average dude" is just not the core audience for "A Wrinkle in Time" or even willing to watch it to form his own opinion or professional enough to even try to give a measured response if he watched it and didn't like it. The internet is full of morons that try to sound clever and sophisticated. Like me and you really. Her real mistake was trying to yell back at them.

[@ipodtouch5963]

Nah, fragile white men misconstrued what she said cause they can't stand not being praised for everything. They basically proved her point.

[@GassedFEIN]

@@Assywalkerbecause what dude is gonna be willing to do that when you can watch replays of ufc fights

[@mitchhiggins9130]

​@Assywalker isn't the core comic book to movie audience dudes....

[@JackMarino163]

A Wrinkle in Time was a novel most GenXers read in elementary school. We all know the story, men and women alike, and each of us can have an opinion about the recent film adaptation. It’s unreasonable to rework a universally loved IP without hearing the opinions of EVERYone who enjoyed the original. It’s also unreasonable to rework such an IP, call it “only for x demographic,” without changing the title, and expect silence from the fans.

[@reyahhhh5519]

I’m 21. I read the book in elementary school, and I was the target audience for the movie when it came out. My dad bought it and played it for me thinking I would love it. All I did was tell him how many things were wrong because “that wasn’t in the book”. Yes I kinda enjoyed the representation but also can you keep the freaking plot the same? 😂

[@Sammo212]

@@reyahhhh5519no, their hubris only allows for them to destroy anything liked

[@pelonmorales4031]

@@reyahhhh5519 I’m curious, have you watched the 2003-4 A Wrinkle in Time film? It’s been years for me, since it was an assignment for me in junior high, but as far as I remember, the original film followed the story and characters very and close to the book. I liked that version. The remake, not so much.

[@reyahhhh5519]

@@pelonmorales4031 Yes! My mom showed it to me! She’s an English major and teacher so we’re constantly reading and comparing the source material to other media. She hates the new one lol but she showed me the older one as soon as I finished the book. I remember liking it and thinking it was closer to the book as well. Of course the effects definitely needed more and it didn’t quite capture what the book was going for and I think the casting was a bit eh but way better than the newer one in my eyes.

[@pelonmorales4031]

@@reyahhhh5519 Couldn’t agree more. The first 2 days me and my class watched the movie to compare it with the book and was enjoyable and pretty close to the book, beside the weird looking visuals in a handful of scenes. Then we moved to the newer one and there were more flaws than the older one. Yes it was better looking and a better visual representation to the book, but I saw so many changes and flaws in that one compared to the older movie. It wasn’t too bad, but when comparing it to the book, it does have a handful of changes to it that bugged me when watching it in class. I still like the 2003 one more than the newer one.

[@Nomadestra]

If Cinema Cartography has taught me anything, it's that there's an entire underworld of uncompromising art films, full of popular actors and underground actors, and immensely talented filmmakers that can you can always rely on when mainstream film has become shitty. Criterion Collection is the best streaming service bar none. It's amazing that instead of focusing on the decline of hollywood, i can turn on something like "An Actor's Revenge" by Kon Ichiki and be treated to a piece of art that doesn't give a shit whether or not it appeals to a broader audience.

[@nelisezpasce]

Criterion got scared by a hit piece and now puts DEI over historical value. Queers will still defend them though.

[@Nomadestra]

@nelisezpasce5439 They're coming soon list suggests otherwise, but ok. Guess saying they still have the best selection of films and still continue to do so with no competition makes me a queer. Don't come near me or I might fuck you. Lol

[@Ducq33]

2:55 I love Jenna Ortega, she has this quiet dignity to her that is lost on a lot of actors her age. Her refusal to put up with writers crap In “Wednesday” her taking dramatic lessons known roles her quitting in solidarity with her costar’s wrongful termination. I have a feeling she gonna get the “Gina Carano” or “ Brendan Fraser” treatment due to not falling in line.

[@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother]

God I hope not

[@scottjoseph9578]

Supporting mass murder of babies and mass rape, which Ortega has done, is not a great move. But we will see.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

You know she will. She did the one thing you can't get ever away with in America: she told the truth about the regime in Occupied Tel-aviv.

[@Ready-ForTheEnd]

I first saw her in the show called You. I don't think she's a great actress. Not very convincing but she is beautiful and at least doesn't run her mouth off the handle.

[@Ducq33]

@@Ready-ForTheEnd I only seen her in “X” and “Wednesday” so I can only go off that (skipped “Scream 4” because I’m afraid to be let down). Her acting is serviceable still room for growth she’s no Leonardo DiCaprio but who knows maybe she’ll get a roll that will let her shine

[@BigRaidah]

The sad part about Scream 7 is that Melissa wasn’t even saying anything controversial. “Don’t commit genocide” is a pretty uncontroversial thing to say. Something I would at least hope most people agree with.

[@Blast2224]

It’s because NEITHER Palestine OR ISREAL are innocent. Both have committed major genocide. Both have manipulated their citizens to war. Both are desperately trying to make themselves look like the victim. So of course when Melissa offers a neutral stance, she’s punished instead of rewarded for “choosing a side”. It doesn’t matter who wins: ISREAL OR Palestine because both have showed such ugly sides of each other the world kind is like “we can’t stand either of you”.

[@Jabrownie23]

Yeah but Hollywood is run by corrupt zionist overlords, so what can ya do? At least Jenna is a ride or die that stood by her.

[@elLooto]

Given the recent congressional hearings, apparently it is.

[@merykhan97]

It goes against what the higher up want so now she's the villain.

[@echidnaralsei1473]

bruh they arent commiting anything. population of Palestinians are growing. this is just dog whistling antisemitism. Israel has a right to defend itself.shame on you for looking at things so shallow

[@torence]

I love how you tackled the different movies Rachel was in and what she said about the movies. I’ve seen way too many comments on insta of people sympathizing for Rachel, saying that Rachel criticizing the movies she’s in is the same as Robert Pattinson saying his opinions on the Twilight franchise… Not the same type of criticism folks😂

[@danaso2567]

I actually thought Robert's comments were.also idiotic. You don't like the movies, that's ok, we all do things to pay the bills, but this is what made him. That being said, unlike Rachel he is talented and not profoundly annoying.

[@jamescarr1265]

@@danaso2567Rachel is talented too… whether you like her or not she’s an objectively good actress

[@vamvam7690]

@@jamescarr1265imo she’s an objectively good singer and an adequate actress

[@jamescarr1265]

@@vamvam7690 each to their own

[@vamvam7690]

@@jamescarr1265 very true 👍

[@mikeevans4051]

Don Cheadle...dont touch me 😂😂😂😂

[@rool-vi8sx]

don cheadle bullied black panther's letitia wright off social media he is just a woke bully and nothing more

[@Archetti62]

@@rool-vi8sx And probably a racist!

[@egor102]

I remember thinking while watching the interviews at the time that most of the actors didnt like how she pushed her way into the franchise like she was saving it.

[@EverettBurger]

I assume the narcissistic attitudes were always there. It's just that studios had PR teams that you keep the actors at a distance from the public/press. Now a days, the actors before their own PR for better or worse

[@mchl_morris]

Old Hollywood functioned perfectly. New Hollywood...😹

[@mynameisreallycool1]

True

[@yuankun99]

First time on your channel. I liked your video but I disagree with some things you said. I can't give Brie Larson a chance cause she never apologized. In fact, she still continues to blame the fans. I'll only forgive her WHEN or IF she says something like "It is NOT the fans fault The Marvels didn't succeeded, we got it wrong, it was OUR fault, and we'll try to make it up to the fans on the next movie". Marvel and the actors on their woke movies needs to learn how to be humble.

[@1dayatAtimeking]

True

[@haroldb1856]

Yes. Brie Larson backed off when she got push back, but gave no indication that she had moderated her ideological position. For the moment, she is keeping her head down, keeping her powder dry for now, ready to take up the fight again if she sees the opportunity for an easy win. Reminding people of what she has said, what she has done and what she wants is not the same as wishing her harm.

[@tonymontana-mh8ff]

Still continues to blame the fans ? Besides her speech and the interviews from 2019, she hasn’t said or done anything remotely offensive since, has she ?

[@foxboy6145]

Chris Evans can't shut his mouth about politics longer than five minutes, and outside of Marvel movies, I haven't heard of his movies doing well.

[@tkps]

@@tonymontana-mh8ff I'm with the OP. You don't consistenly and openly speak to media, so the world like that unless you've always thought that way. Which means her politics haven't changed. She just recognised it was affecting her career as she's not getting the roles she did. That's enough to panic any ego if they've got a bit of maturity. Zegler hasn't yet so can't keep her gob shut. Larsen hasn't said/done anything because she hasn't had the opportunity so we won't know what will come out of her mouth until the next success if there is one.

[@supermodestmouse]

Reminds me of that line from top gun: your ego is writing checks your body can't cash. Zegler isn't even remotely established enough to be on a high horse.

[@SpicyTexan64]

It's "Don't let your mouth write checks your ass can't cash" and it was around way before Top Gun.

[@KetoStradivarius]

@@SpicyTexan64Wrong. He has both the movie and the quotation correct.

[@fritzpollard266]

When the only 2 released movies she’s been in have lost a combined $300 million makes her a star shows just how bad the situation in Hollywood in 2023 is.

[@suezcontours6653]

Movies are dying because of streaming, not because of men who are "teaching Disney a lesson". Men are not that powerful. Women actually have more spending power but aren't interesting in paying for movies. Series is where they dominate. Grey's Anatomy star Ellen Pompeo is one of the most PAID actors because of women. Movies are trying to convert women into movie audiences

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@suezcontours6653 lol what? how is streaming killing movies when they serve two different kinds of content (and isn't profitable either for that matter). Also gg on the "men are not that powerful, it's the movies that are now made for women" take. Guess what, women don't want trash either

[@suezcontours6653]

@@marcogenovesi8570 Dude. Since Hollywood A listers turned over to streaming like Tom Hanks, I knew it was over. That's where the money is.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@suezcontours6653 Yeah, that's why every single streamer is billions in the red and only Netflix and maybe Pluto are barely profitable mostly because of ad-supported tiers. Wtf did Tom Hanks do lol, afaik the only thing he did is recognizing that people on youtube are their main competition, not streaming

[@kenloretz3871]

@@suezcontours6653 The failure that is Disney+ is laughing at this statement.

[@StevelyBruckShut]

I looked up what Melissa Barrera said and it's crazy that she was let go because of that. How that could at all be seen as inflammatory is beyond me.

[@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845]

Zionists could.

[@lanazak773]

…like Gina Carano

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

Ya'll have been talking to yourselves in a circle so long you've come to believe your completely outrageous propaganda slanders are just like a normal thing to say.

[@JustHereForCats]

She chose too harsh of an angle. If she’d gone the route of trying to bring a focus to actively advocate for helping the people, I think she might have been received a little better. A lot of people with platforms have been using them for relief aid, and they seem to be having an easier time avoiding conflicts with their fans and sponsors.

[@Amogus-i6i]

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatgenocide isn't propaganda

[@Awolfx]

Celebrities will always have their own opinions, ideas and thoughts which is perfectly fine. But when they go out of their way to say how superior they are, how "Dated" and "Flawed" classic movies are and act like insufferable entitled brats then I have no problems staying far away from any form of content they are associated with.

[@hayleysantos3648]

Everybody has said something Is dated or flawed it doesn’t make them a bad person or have anything to do with them being “superior”

[@iluvkidcudi]

it’s never that serious lol

[@victorcates9330]

On "Celebrities will always have their own opinions, ideas and thoughts which is perfectly fine". I'm conflicted about it. It does seem very, very cancel culturey. But assume that executives LOVE money. Torpedoing their own film doesn't make sense to me unless it's a message to other actors on other films. If you have other projects that cost 500 million in production and marketing, an actor mouthing off could cost you a hundred million dollars depending on what they say. I can appreciate studios having an episode and doing something self destructive so that a message has been sent. If you let apply a stringent standard on free speech, then you've have to shrug if Tom Cruise said he always wanted to get into dogfighting or if Emma Watson hopped on twitter and burned a Quran. To me, it seems like discipline to not say anything that could cost your film millions of dollars or jeopardize the film studio's commercial arrangements (because a studio would have partners and financiers and insurers or whatever). If you (as a film studio) stand behind something they hate, they might never work with you again.

[@lessismore8533]

@@hayleysantos3648nope. You4 comment varies from celebrity to celebrity. Every celebrity is different and you4 point doesn’t apply to ALL of them..

[@seanmcclure]

Keep these coming please. All of these people who have come unhinged are crumbling.

[@jasonmalone1040]

Southpark nailed it with the panderverse episode.

[@Enigma75614]

I don’t think Rachel Zegler has been in a single successful movie in her life. Literally all of her movies have bombed, but she acts like she’s this huge star. On behalf of Gen Z, I would like to disown her. I can’t stand her.

[@MarvinPowell1]

This is because Hollywood, as well as SEVERAL industries like music and politics, are all built on fake hype and artificial buzz. So much of it is "Fake it till you make it" and hope it actually works. They do this for both the actors and audience. Rachel Zegler has only been in Westside Story, Shazam Fury of the Gods, the Hunger Games prequel that just flopped, and Snow White, which is still a year away from release, and yet we all know who she is. The only difference is, in the past, Disney and other PR firms could manipulate the narrative and turn bad PR into profit. But that's no longer been the case since Brie Larson, or arguably before her, Jennifer Lawrence. Normies are waking up to the fact that most famous people suck and have garbage personalities, especially after the industry has spent the last eight years calling us bigots if we don't go see their shitty movies like Ghostbusters, Birds of Prey, Terminator Dark Fate, Charlies Angels, Captain Marvel, etc.

[@source3nergy203]

Same man

[@PJmachine]

Hunger Games isn't "bombing" its not doing crazy, but it is doing fine.

[@suezcontours6653]

@@PJmachine Movies are just not gonna do well from now on. Streaming is available and not everyone has movie money for every month. It's a twice in a year thing

[@PJmachine]

@@suezcontours6653 exactly.. People are forgetting that most movies that come out in theaters don't do amazing

[@MightyMarven]

In Bries case it's not cancel culture it's voting with your wallet. No one is trying to force movie studios not to hire her, people just don't like her and don't feel like watching her movies which since the Room have all been crap.

[@vileluca]

THIS. Unless people are trying to get her fired and dox her and stuff, it's not cancel culture. I with mouth-breathers would STOP with the false equivalencies.

[@avalond1193]

These feminist actors are learning they are box office poison... Even though they call everyone else toxic

[@Lostouille]

Larson is just pure arrogance at best , she's realized probably by now "I don't know if everyone wants me in another?" . She can still change her mind . Zegler is a massive pool of narcissim , how do you come back from that ?

[@thearchivist250]

I just think she was miscast as captain marvel, and she seems to not give a shit. Lessons in Chemistry is a great role for her. In another universe, she’s the lead in Gone Girl. She just doesn’t do warmth.

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

Exactly. No one’s out here trying to doxx her home, or harass her wherever she goes online or irl, no one’s even going out of his was to get her fired from all her places of employment. We, the paying audience, simply don’t like to financially support sexist racists. Until she learns to reign in her disgusting actions and possibly even apologize to the audience she has belittled, she doesn’t deserve the support. “Separate the art from the artist” only works if the art can be enjoyed without contributing rewards to the artist in the wrong. For example, an actor made a lot of masterful movies in his time, but decades later is revealed to be a criminal. We should still be able to enjoy the movies he made before that time, because he isn’t going to be rewarded financially for that. Brie Larson and Rachel zegler do benefit from people going to see their stuff as it comes out; no piece of media is worth rewarding evil behaviors.

[@kozmaz87]

She is self-cancelling. Actually providing actual entertainment. Where is my bucket of popcorn :D

[@slr4201]

🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 Enjoy, fren

[@WillFredward7167]

A large percentage of big stars are probably narcissists, but one as boldly open about it as Zegler was begging to get hated into oblivion. Narcissists: you *really* need to hide it better than Zegler

[@Kendro311]

That thumbnail is foreshadowing of Zeg congratulating herself in the mirror for being so awesome. And for also singlehandedly managing to create more trainwrecks both socially and cinematically than any other actress... At a young age too. Impressive indeed.

[@pikachu-hd6lr]

⚰️

[@MR_THINQ]

Zeglar’s next role has been announced and a line from her script has been leaked!!… Her line is : “Do you want fries with that?”

[@Sekir80]

One can dream.

[@Aaliyahchannel2024]

This legit made me laugh out loud 😂

[@Chaoslord74]

I thought it would be “oh my god I don’t usually do things like this”

[@gerdsfargen6687]

Umm...the sequel to the Founder?

[@Sekir80]

@@gerdsfargen6687 Haha, nice one!

[@ristau]

Boycott Rachel Zegler and carry on.

[@dashx1103]

Too late. She’s a star.

[@ristau]

@@dashx1103 Of course she is.

[@dashx1103]

@@ristau Agree! She is!

[@jessy1982]

I've seen so much coverage of her and have yet to see any reasonable reason to. So what if she said something a bit cringey in an interview? There are ped0s, abusers and SAers in Hollywood (like Miller). You can find much better things to be angry about and boycott.

[@gerdsfargen6687]

​@@dashx1103nice circle jerk of two

[@Jamie28754]

10:31 Don Cheadle literally looks like he hates her lol

[@TheMsr47gaming]

🤣He fuckin hate hates her

[@darianstarfrog]

They all did

[@rool-vi8sx]

don cheadle bullied black panther's letitia wright off social media he is just a woke bully and nothing more

[@rool-vi8sx]

Samuel l Jackson likes brie larson @@darianstarfrog

[@Jamie28754]

@@rool-vi8sx to say he "bullied" her is really overdoing it

[@tovek77]

I really tried to watch the new hunger games. but my god... ive got no words... its was actually physically and mentally scarring to witness such mediocrity.

[@guydammit3287]

That picture of "Snow White" with a cell phone says everything.

[@dashippo5896]

I'll never understand how these stars forgot that we made them big. We the fans created them, and now they don't care at all for us.

[@cptndunsel2670]

Raging narcissisism. That's how. You'd think that these stars would become cautionary tales for future up and comers, but nope. Some people just cannot help themselves.

[@OrthoLou]

They act like they're a gift to us plebs and we're privileged to pay for their talent... Like, no, fuckers lol. It's us working stiffs finding you entertaining enough to spend money and free time on that makes you rich.

[@sirfuttbucker6067]

Though I would normally agree, Rachel Zegler is a particularly odd case. Her first role was won by a competition, and she was picked for Snow White for some 'political/agenda' brownie points. I don't think the fans 'made' her, she's just been unbelievably lucky in her career. Which makes it even funnier in the fact she's squandered it, so arrogantly.

[@kathyp1563]

@@sirfuttbucker6067 I've heard Rachel Zegler is very talented. (I've not seen any of her work.) But talented people auditioning for roles is common enough.

[@joshhigdon4951]

I think the casting couch and other soul forfeiting debauchery made them. Nobody is a fan of anyone on the Marvel's, rachel Ziegler, etc. A bunch of soul sellers

[@mrdonetx]

Snow White without a Prince is a story about some chic in a coma who never wakes up.

[@hayleysantos3648]

She still has a prince?💀 and as much as I don’t agree with Rachel’s viewpoints on the movie the hate she got for it so unbelievably immature and misogynistic

[@gerdsfargen6687]

​@@hayleysantos3648😂

[@hayleysantos3648]

@@gerdsfargen6687 yeah I also find the hate on her funny and immature💀

[@dantethewanderer4989]

​@@hayleysantos3648People don't hate her because she's a woman, there may be misogynists taking advantage to speak like assholes because they're opportunists but that doesn't make every person who dislikes a woman hater you fucking smooth-brained moron.

[@angel_of_rust]

simp@@hayleysantos3648

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Why the hell Hollywood insists on making Ratchet Zeitgeist a thing is beyond me. To date everyone of her films have bombed. So why are they acting like shes the next Julie Andrews?

[@wizardgaming6759]

If I was in 3 movies and they all bombed, and I was starred in 2 more that’ll most definitely bomb, I’d quit acting all together.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

@@wizardgaming6759 her ego is too big for that. Besides she is surround by ego fluffers. Its the studio logic In question. How much money do you bet on a losing horse?

[@tylere.8436]

​@@wizardgaming6759I mean, she's still not fired yet, so she is making mad cash right now even in spite of the box office bombs, she still gets paid while the studios bite the bullet for the losses.

[@MarvinPowell1]

@mikewaterfield3599 Hollywood has pretty much always been "fake it till you make it." They just bet on the wrong horse this time, thinking Zegler was going to be their next Jennifer Lawrence. Hell, they've been doing this a lot: Ezra Miller, Jonathan Majors, Ella Balinska, Tessa Thompson...

[@mikewaterfield3599]

@@tylere.8436 depends on her contract. Given current year Hollywood they probably were stupid enough to front load her pay. Usually unknowns get a little pay up front and a percentage of the net profits (AKA residuals). Case in point Julia Roberts and Richard Gere made stupid money off “Pretty Woman” because of that. Scar Jo got screwed by Disney over it.

[@kayla3148]

love that what caused the 'downfall' of the womens' careers is saying something dumb in public but the mens' is literal assault

[@Antechynus]

Cmon ladies, aren't words violence too?.... muppets

[@brockdavid]

Dude, this is the end of the circle: Snow White helped make Disney Wretched Zegler helped destroy it.

[@Archetti62]

@brockdavid FYI Snow White did not help make Disney, it actually MADE Disney.

[@stevieboyXI]

I feel Zeggler definitely earned her exile from Hollywood. She made herself box office poison unlike some of the others mentioned in this video.

[@MrXabungle]

She is a brilliant singer but not a brilliant actor.

[@taravati181]

the modern celebrity is entitled.

[@FireBomberBassist]

I dont think I ever seen a star fall soon as they had the opportunity to rise quite like Weird, Weird, Rachel.

[@Dev1cted]

Exactly lmao

[@ronniemontero7110]

what fall? The Hunger Games prequel has been ruling the box office for 2 weeks straight. ya'll are spouting nonsense.

[@Dev1cted]

@@ronniemontero7110 because it’s the hunger games ?

[@Perkeletricksterservantofrher]

box office over what movies ? Thanksgiving horror movie ? or how about napoleon ?@@ronniemontero7110

[@flybeep1661]

@@ronniemontero7110 It came and went without making much of an impression, nobody is talking about this movie anymore.

[@Pooh0Bear8]

It is too bad no one ever told her best things in life are earned, and never surround yourself with yes men that never tell you the truth. Her career died before it a chance to begin.

[@patdollars729]

Is Rachel’s destroyed career in the room with us now?

[@oliverclaymusic6881]

lol right? My thoughts exactly

[@inescastellano7960]

The success of TBOSAS wasn’t because of Rachel Zegler

[@patdollars729]

@@inescastellano7960 okay

[@purplepeopleeater8393]

@@inescastellano7960I can assure you, she most definitely had a lot to do with its success. Her soundtrack as the singer of the many songs in the movie made it one of a kind, and they have been playing all over the internet. She and Tom Blyth as the leads was the best choice they could have made. Don’t be sour that this young actress is ten times more successful than you’ll ever be 😄

[@kamronramelmeier9264]

@@inescastellano7960she’s literally the lead actress in the movie and sang half of the soundtrack. It absolutely had to do with her talent. LMAO.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

Tom Cruise is supposedly a weirdo - particularly given his Scientology ties - and yet his films rake in bank and are very nearly always extremely entertaining. It's almost as if talent and having a personality that's engaging are what matter when being a successful actor is concerned. Weird how that works.

[@sukijay4990]

Well, the creator of this video may be rooting for the career-survival of these young, insufferable starlets, but as far as I’m concerned it is very satisfying to see them humbled by failure. Nobody cancelled them, they cancelled themselves.

[@hannahw7023]

They should be humbled but that doesn't mean we want to see their careers permanently die. They're young and being thrust into the spotlight, and they're going to make stupid mistakes. But their whole futures are still ahead of them and you want their careers to be dead already? You don't need to be so spiteful - give them a chance to learn humility and then earn their success. And if they don't learn? Then there's no helping them anyway

[@sukijay4990]

@@hannahw7023 I disagree with you. There should be consequences for bad behaviour and it’s not like we’re seeing any evidence that they have learned a darned thing. Maybe if they showed any regret for upsetting the potential viewing audiences of their multi-million dollar movies, but no, instead they act like victims and throw the blame for their obnoxious behaviour on the very people they need to placate. Fifteen years ago my friend’s daughter went to LA to pursue her dream of acting. She takes any work she can get and gets rejected time and time again at auditions. If she was given a chance to star in a big movie I can promise you she would not squander it by disrespecting the film and being ridiculously self-important. There are thousands of girls just like her, younger than she is now but equally passionate to become successful as actors. They must see these elitist, woke brats acting too big for their boots and think what they would have done differently in their place. I’d like to see them given a chance because they would appreciate it. In reality there are more gifted, more respectful, nicer actors than Rachel Zegler and Brie Larson out there who know how to treat a movie-going audience and that’s who I want to see in movies. Whether you agree with that or not is immaterial. Its the public who will decide if their careers continue, and I for one won’t be seeing any movies they are in because their personalities have become inseparable from the roles they might perform. That’s just the way it is, and like I said before, they did it to themselves.

[@grimreaper9350]

@@hannahw7023 found the simp

[@unimpartialobserver]

@@hannahw7023 I would never wish a "career" in Hollywood on any young woman, precisely BECAUSE their whole futures are ahead of them.

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

@@hannahw7023 I don’t take kindly to racists or sexists, Brie Larson and Rachel zegler are both. They quite clearly despise and/or resent whites and men, especially white men. I feel no sympathy for two such horrible people when their words ruin their own careers of great privilege. Let them work normal jobs like the rest of us have to if they’re going to be so cruel to such a large portion of the world’s population. It’s not about grudges, or hate, it’s about not financially supporting bad people. Yes, I know Hollywood is at least 80% bad people, but they least any of them could do is not advertise it to the world, which both Larson and zegler have done, for which they deserve whatever damages to their own careers they sustain.

[@edrooney1967]

Tom Cruise is a good example of a controversial individual (Scientology) who can compensate with a impressive oeuvre as an actor and producer. I do not like the person Tom Cruise but I like him as a professional.

[@Ergeniz]

He does seem personable though. Definitely more tolerable in person than these entitled cunts.

[@alsmith9853]

I've never heard him blaming the audience either

[@ApocalypticRenegade]

Oh yeah you can be strange or dislikable behind the scenes or whatever but really as long as you don't do anything illegal or insult the fans or in some other way mouth off you really should be fine.

[@chasehedges6775]

@singlekc💯💯

[@Fustercluck06]

“Conveyer belt of cringe” 😂 🤣

[@KerikPaintsaPicture]

Ironically, Disney's new Snow White would make more sense if Gal Gadot was Snow White and Rachel would be the Evil Queen. I think it fits her personality more.

[@olafgurke4699]

With everything Rachel has said about her Snow White, that character does sound like the Evil Queen.

[@AmberSmith-zx2rp]

They made the same mistake with Snow White and the Huntsman assuming we would choose Kristen Stewart over Charlize Theron.

[@jamescarr1265]

@@AmberSmith-zx2rp not to mention Charlize is a good actress while Kristen is a pretty bad one.

[@KeithSpinneyMusic]

I remember seeing Brie on the tv show "Community" and thinking how cute she was. Holy Hell! What a monster she turned into. And Rachel is a mess. Haven't seen any of her movies and I can say with strong conviction that I never will.

[@padmanabhanvaidyanathan7182]

Wait, Brie Larson was in community? Which episode?

[@KeithSpinneyMusic]

@@padmanabhanvaidyanathan7182I can't remember. She was in about two or three. She was Abad's girlfriend for a short while.

[@protorhinocerator142]

I thought Rachel was OK in Shazam 2. And then she revealed who she is.

[@Etymon-jt3zw]

Throughout most of human history acting was considered one of the lowest professions. Because they would do and say anything for money. It was only after the invention of the film industry that they began to be looked at as someone to be admired and respected. How nice of them to remind us who they really are.

[@source3nergy203]

Let us bring back traditional sense

[@heimdal8]

And the only reason people looked up to and revered the stars of Hollywood’s golden and silver age was because of the studios. WB, Universal, UA, RKO etc. knew how to create movie stars and the secret was: keep the stars private life private and the stars quiet. The movie stars were basically forbidden from talking to the press unless it was through a pre-approved press junket orchestrated by the studios PR-team. Otherwise, silence. This created a situation where the general public were free to imagine that the stars were intelligent, funny and charismatic in private. People worthy of admiration. When this system started to fail in the 70’s and 80’s and definitely since the invention of social media we have started to relize just how dumb and pathetic most of these people are. Who knew? Being an entitled, spoiled brat with no real education usually means that you are a horrible person. We have the odd exception (like Hedy Lamarr) but most Hollywood celebreties are just awful people.

[@Kartak965]

I took a look at Barrera’s comments and all she said was that innocent people were dying in both sides, so i don’t understand how that can be considered controversial and this is coming from someone that hates the new scream movies. But at the same time this the kind of society that hollywired wanted and were warned about but didn’t listen.

[@ahamilton3435]

This isnt a both side things though its literally a genocide of over 14000 people, 6000 CHILDREN. P*lestinians have suffered for 75 years and its clear that hollywood is funded by those as well as the news, cutting off anyone who tries to humanise the natives. In anyway, even as mild as saying "both"

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Because you're not allowed to recognise Arabs as "people" in America. Guess why that might be...

[@JohnDoe-qw4gc]

If problems follow you everywhere, the problem might be you.

[@masonr1666]

I thing Hollywood essentially gets left with two types of stars... Let's thing about how an actor gets hired. They face rejection, after rejection, until they obtain a part. So, what kind of personality would stay in this kind of industry? The most common, is someone who had a big ego. They know what they are worth, and they think they are underpaid. Aka more narcissistic. They you have the other extreme, someone who is very humble, and has virtually no ego, and is extremely generous [i.e. Keanu Reeves]. Hollywood, basically is the extreme of everything, for better or worse.

[@billmacia4092]

“I’m a narcissist!", Yeah sound about right

[@attats-mf9hy]

So, it's perhaps not surprising that Gal Gadot has strong opinions on the topic of feminism. The actress - who had almost given up on her film career when she landed Hollywood's most badass female role - believes anyone who is not a feminist is by default sexist. "People always ask me, 'Are you a feminist?'" Gadot tells Rolling Stone, in a new interview out this month. "And I find the question surprising, because I think, 'Yes, of course. Every woman, every man, everyone should be a feminist. Because whoever is not a feminist is a sexist.'"

[@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845]

_another_ reason to dislike Gadot. 😉

[@yassinefarah2423]

I guess celebrities or anyone in Hollywood has to be absurd and extreme in their views.

[@MarvinPowell1]

@attats-mf9hy It's weird, because she said the exact opposite thing during the press promotion of the original Justice League, where she and Ezra Miller were doing interviews and Ezra was going on woke tirades and she expressly said she is NOT a feminist and that she very much LOVES men. My theory is that Gal Gadot is a well-meaning, normal, slightly-left Liberal, but not progressive/woke. She probably does think second wave feminism is a good thing, but recognizes fourth wave "transwomen are women" feminism is batshit insane. She probably hates most of the extreme Progressive talking points, but says what she needs to say in order to keep her career, especially since she's no longer Wonder Woman and recently expressed strong insecurity for her age (she's nearly 40) and getting old. Why would someone who's still as beautiful as her agree to play the old, bitter evil queen in Snow White? She probably thinks she's less attractive looking than the general public does. Gadot probably also realizes she isn't that good of an actress either and that her time in Hollywood may be drawing to an end, so keeps up appearances and says whatever BS they want her to say so she can keep her job. But in the past, Gadot's been adamant against man-hating, wokeness in general, or the erasure of women and femininity via the trans agenda. She probably saw what happened to JK Rowling and decided to shut up and say whatever they tell her to.

[@attats-mf9hy]

gal gadot is a hypocrite @@MarvinPowell1

[@unimpartialobserver]

@@MarvinPowell1 "Why would someone who's still as beautiful as her agree to play the old, bitter evil queen in Snow White?" If someone offered me the opportunity to portray the evil queen, I'd be flattered. The queen is supposed to be beautiful, just not QUITE as beautiful as Snow White; her fatal flaw is her ego, not being an uggo.

[@Enigma75614]

13:06 Kevin Spacey still did it. Just because he was found innocent in a court of law doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. There are countless reports of his creepy behavior on set, to the point where the House of Cards showrunners had to advise the crew members to make sure they were never alone with him. And let’s not forget the Family Guy joke, which happened years before the allegations arose. A lot of Kevin Spacey’s accusers also conveniently died before they could testify. I’m not saying that he had anything to do with their deaths, but the lack of testimony made it really hard to prosecute him.

[@Mazra42]

Oh, shit, pass me a tinfoil hat and whatever you're smoking.

[@Enigma75614]

@@Mazra42 Again, just because he was cleared in a court of law doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. By that logic, OJ Simpson is innocent.

[@DetectiveThursday]

and the fact that he released a video where he portrayed Frank Underwood suggesting he should "kill people with kindness" and one witness died the day after from an apparent suicide. pretty suspicious, especially since Frank Underwood is a character well known for killing people and making it look like suicide.

[@JimBz84]

Yeah, but he is a great actor though right? I'm being sarcastic btw.

[@Enigma75614]

@@JimBz84 I never really understood the hype over Kevin Spacey. It could be that I hadn’t watched any of his movies until after the allegations, so my view of him was tarnished, but he never really seemed that talented.

[@herosam1390]

6:19 Zachary Levi slamming his hand on the table was timed perfectly with TMC's emphasis on "flatlined!" 😂

[@rickzinho7967]

Destroying my career by being cast as a lead in a Spielberg, DC, Disney, and Hunger Games movie with no prior credits lol

[@JohnGalt916]

Dude i have never seen a career implode so fast. West side story was what 2020? She survived less than 3 years. Hollywood really needs to make media training mandatory. Because every movie shes said something bad that made the audience man. Everyone talks about snow white. How about telling west side story audiences to "learn Spanish" even though she is a "No Savo kid" Saying she only took the role in shazam because she needed a job. Snow white lol And hunger games is just a reflection on all that stuff. Im just saying if youre gonna manufacture an "It girl" make sure shes more that just cute. Especially when shes not cute enough to make us ignore the attitude. Shes not 1997 Salma Hayek. Shes more the really hot chick that works at the target Starbucks.

[@Pooh0Bear8]

💯

[@MarvinPowell1]

Fully agree. The problem is having narcissists select narcissists as "the next big thing" and thinking everyone will love them and being unable to see otherwise cause they're narcissists. Worse of all, Rachel Zegler is legitimately not even the least bit attractive looking. She's a 5 _at best_ and even Pokimane is slightly cuter than Zegler. I'm short and ugly and most of my exes have legitimately looked better than Zegler or Poki. So Zegler doesn't even have looks going for her, in addition to being an idiot who ruins their own career before even having a single successful movie.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

You'd think that the studios would have a "Public Relations 101" mandatory class that all their actors and actresses would take. It would cover Tom Cruise's career; that would show his rise to fame, his over sharing in public about his personal life and his religious/political one (Scientology), the nosedive of his career after that and his redemption arc of him SHUTTING THE FUCK UP and ONLY talking about his movies after that and his return to being a Hollywood superstar. It's a horrible warning and a Good Example all in one. Of course, today's crop of actors would have to acknowledge that movies were made before they ever came along and they aren't The First (insert delusion here) To Star In Or Direct A Movie. Modern Hollywood can go F itself, for all I care. The videos pointing and laughing at their fall is all the entertainment I need when it comes to movies these days.

[@athreyabhat9325]

I would add on to show Keanu Reeves do be simple.

[@3dness449]

If I was a professor of that class, my lesson would be: Hello, do you have any social media accounts? Class: Yes! Me: Get rid of those. Class dismissed.

[@ApocalypticRenegade]

I've always said that someone could make a fortune operating a celebrity and streamer/youtuber advice service. Whenever they are about to comment on an issue or say something to a load of people they call the advice service and you just say "oh jesus christ no what are you insane? Don't say any of that". Could have saved or helped so so many careers.

[@kroon275]

Warped narcissistic individuals deserve our contempt

[@hayleysantos3648]

U looked at her facial expressions and randomly ran with the “narcissistic behavior” that she doesn’t even have. Please learn the true definition before u go hate on women for no reason

[@kenloretz3871]

@@hayleysantos3648 Facial expressions? lol As if the woman hadn't said some stuff out of her own mouth that made her look like a vain and narcissistic person. Please learn how to comprehend basic context and not pull out an obvious strawman thinking that you actually have something to argue.

[@maximusprime3459]

Keenest eye is that which looks inward.

[@kroon275]

@@hayleysantos3648 nope. Her deranged facial expressions didn't help her. But her words were most damning. She spoke as if she was in control of whether male co star got totally cut from the movie. She spoke as if she was more intelligent / enlightened than the actual original writers of the story that led to her employment. I could go on, but these attitudes of hers were just in the one interview. She proved her narcissism in multiple interviews. Ill presume you haven't seen those

[@hayleysantos3648]

@@kroon275 that’s acc crazy hating on her for her facial expressions is the most misogynistic fake I’ve ever heard. Go work on yourself buddy ur on a high level of neuroticism

[@frogman9989]

I still can not get over Rachel be cast as Snow White. Snow frigging White?... she is tanner then my hardwood floors. I just hate Disney. They destroyed EVERYTHING.

[@irkalla100]

Very well stated. I personally don't care about what actors do outside of movies. I only give a damn about their acting talent. Unless they harm someone or seem to be in a perpetual psychotic break of some kind (Ezra). Side note: Rachel's face gives me uncanny valley feelings. Is that just me?

[@llamasarus1]

Barbie wasn't made for me. I could still say what I did and didn't like about it. Even if straight males aren't the demographic for it, you still would want them to come along for extra revenue they bring with them to it. So don't bite the hands that feed.

[@unimpartialobserver]

I don't hate men, so it wasn't made for me, either.

[@rodrigoperalta822]

Any time a movie fails they blame incels and straight white men as the reason why, so they are saying they're the biggest market, only a fool would make a product that alienates the biggest market

[@ApocalypticRenegade]

Exactly I really love David Lynch's films but he never came out and said "oh these films are probably too smart for you average viewers why don't you stay in your trailers watching fox news". This is because he's not a fucking idiot who felt the need to alienate people and make enemies for no reason.

[@hayleysantos3648]

@@unimpartialobserverwell considering the Barbie movie had nothing to do with hating men that’s just not a good evaluation. Using men as a humorous plot point is the same thing y’all have been doing to women for ever. Do u like the movies that use women just like the Barbie movie used men bc if so u have some evaluating to do my guy

[@Enigma75614]

@@hayleysantos3648 My mom and my sister both went to the Barbie movie and said it was man-hating trash.

[@MetalGearTrav]

That’s Hollywood baby!

[@twentyfirstidentity]

The WonderWoman woman said some nasty things about supporting Israel's genocide in Gaza. I think she's still working.

[@Amogus-i6i]

Absolutely

[@ceelothatmane9421]

People don’t dislike Brie because of her political views. They dislike her because of who SHE. I disagree with most of Hollywood, but that doesn’t make me hate their movies. Bad content and poor character is what makes me not want them to have my money.

[@gelasiosanchez5525]

Seriously!!

[@Suitsnstylesguy]

As a Colombian, Rachel zegler is an embarrassment to us, we are not like that

[@unimpartialobserver]

We know. It irks us, too.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Rachel's grandma was from colombia, that's all connection she has to Colombia or the "latino" or "hispanic" culture.

[@hayleysantos3648]

Every person is different her having a certain personality doesn’t mean every Colombian has that personality. I’m Puerto Rican with a personality that other Puerto Ricans don’t have like ur point is really stupid. Also the girl did literally nothing men don’t always do, and talking bad ab a movie does not give y’all a right to hate on her it’s quite immature

[@hayleysantos3648]

@@marcogenovesi8570just bc ur not from Colombia or wherever ur natural culture came from doesn’t mean u don’t also align with that culture. She most likely has the same traditions and expectations as Colombians.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@hayleysantos3648 sure, she does not speak spanish and was born and raised in the US after her mother was also born and raised in the US. But she totally knows and aligns herself with Colombian culture. By that logic I know and align myself with Italian culture

[@MR_THINQ]

I will never ever understand how Brie ‘plank’ larson got an Oscar, it’s beyond sane logical comprehension.

[@saunterfilms]

Her act in "Room" was great though.

[@haroldb1856]

Brie is a very convincing plank. You know why? Method acting! According to one rumour, she spent six months in a lumber yard before filming Captain Marvel. Someone asked if she was trying to be next Keanu Reeves. She said, I'll be the next me, thank you verry much! No, thank you, Brie. Here, have an Oscar.

[@ghostprojekt]

She can be great when she is given half decent material to work with and someone coaches her before interviews.

[@TheNucaKola]

It’s called letting Harvey Weinstein grunt over your naked body for an acting roll or even an Oscar

[@stephengrigg5988]

Her performance in room is pretty phenomenal

[@KingKilo88]

She actually admitted that she is Narcissist. 😂

[@nasifsufean8132]

I'll respect Jenna Ortega for her actions. Humanity means more than a acting career. This is when integrity is tested. Muhammad Ali fought against the US government when drafted for Vietnam War. Yes it took away 4 years of prime youth in boxing, but it saved his humanity and paved the way to stop the war that ended up kiIling 3 million people in Vietnam.

[@kostisdimopoulos2886]

also it made him avoid going to Vietnam and fighting

[@barneycockburn]

Personifies the endless stupidly & desperation of The Academy to get people to watch the Oscars like (what I believe was) the staged “slap heard around the world.”

[@MaxLambrecht]

"Don't be so modest" how much sarcasm con be condensed in just four words! 😆

[@andykaufman7620]

I think they should take all these stars, which seem to mostly be females, but there are males too, and put them all in one ensemble cast for a movie like Oceans 13, but it is all these stars who imploded their own careers. If you want I can write that movie script and idea. It will be one where the audience can laugh at these stars (mostly actresses). I think I'd call it Girl Boss, as my initial idea and go from there. Think of a raunchy movie like SuperBad, Mean Girls, and perhaps a few other properties all mixed together centered on the Girl Boss concept. The goal is to write a movie that pisses of Feminists. The more B-hurt they get, the more success it generates.

[@jacksongibbs8998]

YES!!! YES!!!

[@roberttony001]

When people in arts industries destroy their marketing. They are not stars, they a product made through advertising them, to sell more product through advertising.

[@YusafAnimations]

So people hate her for being real? Like she just gave her opinions and thats about it 🤷

[@Djoarhet001]

She can express her opinions but the whole pandering thing just became too much. Disney's classic animations are loved by millions and Disney or Zegler or Larson basically attacking their audience for liking those classics is just a bad move.

[@Electronica27]

11:40 I remember seeing olddd clips of Brie Larson interviews and she was just so much funnier and humble, IDK why she started taking things so personally. Also that sucks with Melissa, I remember Andrew Garfield got dropped bc of what he said about Sony, which wasn't even nearly that controversial.

[@bf5881]

The thumbnails kinda funny considering Hunger Games is still #1 at the box office and is well on its way to being profitable. Lol

[@MrNH718]

There's a reason Michael Jackson and R Kelly still had a ton of supporters for many years even after all the horrible things they allegedly did. It's because they actually put out good content that people liked. Larson and Zegler don't have the same privilege because they're putting out trash and have the attitude of people that aren't.

[@PeaksTheMenace]

Ex-fucking-actly

[@vileluca]

Michael Jackson was found not guilty by a grand jury 4 times. The allegations against him have always been bullcrap.

[@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836]

Jackson basically had no childhood and is a poster child of what happens to child stars who never have normality, and who make too much money for way too many people. You just let them do whatever they want, you even encourage them, because of money

[@TheColosiss]

If Rachel Zegler is in the film. I will not support it. I am not supporting terrible behavior.

[@mt_baldwin]

Larson realizing that no one likes her does not mean hers views and opinions have changed. Her failing is in my own best interest as this would weaken her influence, influence she uses directly against me and my father and my son and my brothers etc.. I am not calling for her to be fired, as *this* would be participating in cancel culture, I'm just not going to spend a penny or give a moment of my time helping her succeed.

[@Yuval.Ronen2010]

R U israeli? or I am just talking about the wrong actress... is she the actress from "Scream"? I didn't understood the sentence...

[@OpEditorial]

The saddest thing about Brie Larson and Rachael Zegler is both women are physically attractive. But they're learning the hard way that being easy on the eyes and easy on the ears are often mutually exclusive.

[@Djoarhet001]

Not mutually exclusive I would say, there's plenty of beautiful actresses with great charisma. But it does require two traits of high quality so yeah, they are more rare.

[@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836]

"Easy on the ears" can also mean being nice and quiet. You know who was also easy on the eyes but not on the ears? Katherine Hepburn, who was also called "box office poison". Perhaps we shoild focus more on how their comments age

[@OpEditorial]

@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836 maybe, I don't think Katherine Hepburn was in too many movies where she openly badmouthed them during interviews but I could be wrong.

[@Im_trash_bruh]

You are fearless, articulate, funny, and objective. You are the voice for many of us that see that the entertainment industry has taken a dump in the last decade

[@cal5000]

So why don't folks go see her products?

[@Sekir80]

@@cal5000 I guess OP was commending the video author, not Zegler.

[@dimpled_skeptic93]

Love how you actually referred to Ezra Miller as a HE which is what he is. So tired of people tip toeing around these narcissists