Nidecker Carbon Supermatic Review // Worth the Upgrade?

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Malcolm Moore

Malcolm Moore

Күн бұрын

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@tomdebaerdemaeker
@tomdebaerdemaeker 2 ай бұрын
Just bought a pair of Supermatics myself given the convenience of stepping in and out while wanting to teach my kids to snowboard. Your videos were the ones convincing me of their benefit. Still have to test them out on the snow in the mountains but the setup was easy and I feel as tight in the binding as my strap bindings (yes I'm one of those "let's crank this strap one notch further types"). So far not regretting the purchase!
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
There's a little learning curve to getting them on and off on the mountain, but it's pretty quick!
@j.p.6228
@j.p.6228 Ай бұрын
Please give an update when you get them on the slopes
@tomdebaerdemaeker
@tomdebaerdemaeker Ай бұрын
@@j.p.6228 I'll make sure to do that, but will be only near april. Might take them out on the indoor slopes sooner.
@alwaysbecarving
@alwaysbecarving 2 ай бұрын
You're riding style is so cool. I keep practicing your drills. Thanks for the awesome content.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@konstantinostsaknakis
@konstantinostsaknakis 23 күн бұрын
I have bought the carbon version , i am an advanced snowboarder , I have test them 2 times till now , took me a little bit to find the right setting for my boots , there are what they say if you make the settings right , they give an amazing feeling of responsiveness and my knees are not hurting at the end of the day !!! Great choice for people that seek stiff/responsive bindings with that really amazing drop in system !!! Nice video and it is as you said !!!!
@SkyOnPixel
@SkyOnPixel 2 ай бұрын
2nd season with the supermatics, absolutely loving them on the resort. Excited to see the next iteration feature upgrades!
@filayell
@filayell 2 ай бұрын
I have the basic model for about two years. I have stomach issues and these bindings are my salvation. Even though I'm a beginner, I decided to buy it right away. Avoiding bending over and pressure my stomach is worth this price. I am delighted, if I had not decided to try them, my further adventure with snowboarding would have been a big question mark...
@michaelpodlesny9227
@michaelpodlesny9227 2 ай бұрын
Definitely the best snowboarding channel out there! Love your videos Malcolm.
@d-redfox
@d-redfox 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos! I bought my supermatics just because you wear them and trust your advices!! Btw, great video, I'm a noob and seeing you from a side angle how you switch is helpful, I get nervous by moving forward on a steep (for me) terrain, this helps me better understand your other videos about it. Thanks Malcolm! Hope to see you one day at Zugspitze Germany!
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
My next video will be more of a tutorial helping to explain turning in more detail, it should help!
@olih.
@olih. 2 ай бұрын
Great review Malcolm. I love my Supermatics, as you know - recommended by you and tried in resort when we saw you. Looking forward to seeing the new ones. Love the montage ! See you soon
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
@@olih. Not long now! 🍮
@sfdking7480
@sfdking7480 2 ай бұрын
On them since release and ill never go back to flow. after about 600hrs on them i can say i love them so much i bought a pair for the rock board and can honestly say i havent had ANY issues at all.
@xJae14x
@xJae14x Ай бұрын
I’m still using Flow and so tempted to switch
@techypaul
@techypaul 2 ай бұрын
I didn't realise people don't like supermatics, why do they care? I have moved to them because my knees are shot and if it allows me to get in and out with less pain, then that's a massive win for me.
@tscc
@tscc 2 ай бұрын
Certain online communities are pretty gatekeepy in relation to things that deviate from "the norm" or make it easier for regular folks. That said, Supermatics don't get the brunt of it in regards to step-in bindings. That honor goes to Burton instead.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly 💯
@tjdad13
@tjdad13 2 ай бұрын
@@tscc i would argue that Clew gets the most hate and that’s because their outside the “core” of the industry
@fabes326
@fabes326 2 ай бұрын
Clew gets the most hate.
@etharalali
@etharalali 2 ай бұрын
This is it! I'm older now and can't carry my 300lb frame on skis without foot pain any more. So switched to snow boarding a few years ago but hate regular bindings, as I don't have the mobility (never had). Step-ins transform the experience for me & would shift me onto boards full time
@VanGtfogh
@VanGtfogh 2 ай бұрын
Love my supermatics, and def checked them out because of your past review
@rileysnow4018
@rileysnow4018 2 ай бұрын
Finally the review I've been waiting for🎉🎉💪
@Dontgankmeplx
@Dontgankmeplx 2 ай бұрын
I've taken the plunge, this is the second year I have been considering getting them and I just would like them in my kit. I went for the carbon partly as xl normal overs out of stock but also I like the more rigid design of the carbon. Can't wait to try them in Jan!
@mstegs5477
@mstegs5477 Ай бұрын
So glad I saw you mention them in your latest video. Just got back from 7 days in CO and the annoyance of strapping in when hitting 25-30 lifts a day is very high! Can't wait for next month in Vail with these!
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Haha brilliant enjoy!
@markgrundy6211
@markgrundy6211 2 ай бұрын
Another great video malcolm. I had my 1st season on the supermatics last yewasand was using my DC boots. I liked the binding but at times I found sometimes difficult to get in and out not big problems but just when the board wasn't totally flat. I have just received today the nidecker rift boots in white which look awesome and feel so comfy straight out of the box. Got my board out in my bedroom and tried them and omg the boot goes in and out so much easier than my DC boots. So although you can use any boot with them I think I will find np problems with my new boots. It's not just a marginal difference the rift just glide in and out and that's with a dry binding so it's a big difference and can't wait to hit the hill with my new set up. Also I love your 3 points at the end and couldn't agree more with all you said. We are all snowboarders at the end of the day. Keep up the good work malcolm I'm looking forward to your next video 😊
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
That's good to know, and yes, my new video is a good one, I hope! I put alot of effort into it!
@artemsharipov3685
@artemsharipov3685 2 ай бұрын
Thare is opinion, that it's because Nidecker's new boots specially designed to slide easily with roller in Supermatics. Compare old DC boots and new Rift. Thinking myself to get Supermatics + Nidecker Rift boots.
@stimmythekid
@stimmythekid 2 ай бұрын
Got a pair last year, would love the Carbons but i am satisfied with the base model. Thanks Malcolm!
@brennanruane
@brennanruane Ай бұрын
Whats the weight difference between the normal and the carbon?
@stimmythekid
@stimmythekid Ай бұрын
@brennanruane the carbons are a bit stiffer and a tiny bit lighter than the base model, they updated the high back and ratchets as well
@drewwalms4816
@drewwalms4816 2 ай бұрын
Since getting my Supermatics at the beginning of the year, my regular bindings have been gathering dust in storage, great video explaining the differences 👍
@cnghiem67
@cnghiem67 2 ай бұрын
Excited to try my supermatics after seeing your review and finally giving up on my generation 2 K2 Clickers. Did not know they have these carbon ones until i saw your review.
@ssnowmon
@ssnowmon 2 ай бұрын
Bought and tried these carbon bindings last weekend. Absolutely superb, very quick and responsive but definitely not hard work. This review is spot on.
@CharlesLao
@CharlesLao 2 ай бұрын
Been on them the second season - definitely thanks to your videos! It is really versatile: carving to power, on piste off piste, jumps / parks❤️
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@neilbower123
@neilbower123 2 ай бұрын
Got some standards Supermatics last season as a result of your previous review. Love them & looking forward to using again soon enough. Cheers
@S2GTADİCG
@S2GTADİCG 2 ай бұрын
You are the top snowboarder i like most with British accent
@BarryP
@BarryP 2 ай бұрын
LOL! You should throw a few more qualifiers in there: "the top snowboarder i like most with British accent, that's over 5'-10", drives a red 2023 Subaru Crosstrek and only eats tacos on Sundays between 7-9pm". 🤣
@S2GTADİCG
@S2GTADİCG 2 ай бұрын
@BarryP i also like halfcab king, he is good too but i think malcolm is a little bit more different than halfcab king
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
My Subaru is blue I'm afraid 🤷
@BarryP
@BarryP 2 ай бұрын
@@S2GTADİCG I agree with you. I love this guy! I was just messing around. Tight turns this season, bud!
@BarryP
@BarryP 2 ай бұрын
@@malcolmmoore Well then. Screw you! 😂
@johnmoua2538
@johnmoua2538 17 күн бұрын
well done, and your camera person is BADASS!!
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 5 күн бұрын
Ah this one was my wife filming so I'll tell her 😍😍
@darrenpotter2553
@darrenpotter2553 14 күн бұрын
Bought a pair of '26 model Supermatics this evening for our upcoming trip on your review. Looking forward to riding them
@ShawnJohnson159
@ShawnJohnson159 14 күн бұрын
Where can you find the ‘26 models?
@darrenpotter2553
@darrenpotter2553 14 күн бұрын
@ShawnJohnson159 I got them on the nidecker website
@coachpaul-vedicfitness
@coachpaul-vedicfitness 2 ай бұрын
Supermatic VS Step on ? That is something I would love to hear you speak about
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
If Burton to send me a setup I'll get it done, but I'm not forking out for the boots and bindings!
@xgra720
@xgra720 2 ай бұрын
What's your questions? I have the carbon supermatics and step ons. 2 days on the supers. 2 seasons of step ons
@likeretirement3245
@likeretirement3245 Ай бұрын
Mr blank here ; what’s the difference between step-one and Supermatics? I thought they were both step on systems.
@coachpaul-vedicfitness
@coachpaul-vedicfitness Ай бұрын
@@xgra720 what system do you prefer ? Step on seem to stand out and they have the split board version but you have to rebuy everything ….
@xgra720
@xgra720 Ай бұрын
@coachpaul-vedicfitness so far I think I prefer the Burton Step on's, but some of it may just be user error on my part.
@j3ll1s
@j3ll1s 2 ай бұрын
Love my supermatics as well thanks to you! I mostly ride with my older brother who skies and for the resort these things rule and my bro doesnt wait for me to strap in!
@finroddd
@finroddd 18 күн бұрын
First season on the regular Supermatic and they already exceeded my expectations! I do not think I would go back on the regular bindings. Will consider the carbon version as well but probably will get another set of regular ones. Also Nidecker licensed (not sure this is the right term) the Supermatic tech to Bent Metal and Salomon so we will see their versions soon. Thank you for these bindings, Nidecker! They are the first true innovation in soft snowboard bindings since these were implemented.
@boarderdude376
@boarderdude376 2 ай бұрын
Good review Malcolm, probably not worth the upgrade for me. Appreciate your honesty about expectations.Totally love my Supermatics and dont miss bending down ratcheting. My only gripe is that its still a bit of a stretch down to the lever to release and open up the binding so I improvise and use the selfie stick of insta360; works a treat and saves me bending all the way down.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
😂 haha great hack
@Yogi_4469
@Yogi_4469 27 күн бұрын
I love these. Want a pair so bad. I dreamt up this design 20+ years ago when I first started snowboarding. In my mind this was the best way to make step-in bindings. If only I knew business engineering and marketing period I could have been rich doing what I love. Boo boo such is life 🙄😓🤣
@freddiewebb2400
@freddiewebb2400 2 ай бұрын
Watched the full review knowing full well man is so poor I cant even afford to pay attention let alone for these bindings.😂 just love seeing Malcom content! Great end message too🙌🏻
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Haha, I'm always watching car reviews knowing full well I'm never gonna be driving a sports car 😂
@Sh0ny9
@Sh0ny9 Ай бұрын
i bought last night the normal version, same colour as yours. can't wait to test them out. by the way, i'm a begginer with 0 days on the slope.wish me luck!
@soyogen22
@soyogen22 12 күн бұрын
As always, great content! Now that you have had a month on them, if you were to only have one (the OG or the Carbons) which would you personally prefer? Happy to hear your reasons. I keep going back and forth between both to buy. Thnx!
@LeiChat
@LeiChat 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. It's a shame Nidecker do not mention the weight of the bindings on their website. I would hope that the carbon version offer a weight saving over the original Supermatic?
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
It's minimal, so it's not one of their main pushes. I think about 20gs per binding
@xgra720
@xgra720 2 ай бұрын
The largest size with mounting disks weigh 1362 G. Not sure what the original weighs, but this is the carbon weight. Not light for sure.
@Saltinator
@Saltinator 2 ай бұрын
I think the Supermatics are pretty cool. I had a pair of K2 Cinches for 10 seasons because I fancied step ins and Nidecker didn't release the Supermatics yet. I ended up replacing my step ins for traditional straps but I figured out if I leave the toe strap engaged one click and leave the ankle/ladder straps behind the highback so the are out of the way I am able to step in and strap in while riding 🏂
@eliterolo
@eliterolo Ай бұрын
I love my supermatics. As someone with lower back problems these save me from stopping snowboarding. Not having to bend over or have to sit then get up 🙌🏼🙌🏼. I know at some point I will have to step away from snowboarding the older I get due to my back. But until then, I’ll snowboard until I can’t anymore thanks to these binders 🤷🏻‍♂️
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Yeah I find them super useful as well, when teaching and filming, they save me so much time!
@sHockzatx
@sHockzatx Ай бұрын
I have 6 pairs of supermatics, including the new purple and orange splashed ones, as I have bought a pair just about every time they dropped new ones. I couldn't agree more with what you've said here. I would love nothing more than to get my hands on the carbons to review. I was also going to go from Photons > Ions to stiffen up the boot after I rolled an ankle on 150 day photons last season....but Nidecker has just absolutely been so phenomenal with the Supermatic lineup that I'm now seriously considering the Kita or the Index instead. Also - thanks for teaching me to snowboard MM. I just watched your videos up the lift, and practiced the drills down. Please feel free to watch me (essentially, one of your "silent" students you didn't know you had!) rip after only 3 seasons going from 0 to crushing double blacks on my channel. Hoping to randomly catch you on the slopes one day in Europe for a high five and a beer. Cheers m8!
@DLabroad
@DLabroad 16 күн бұрын
I bought matching pair for me and the Mrs. I used to do up her bindings then mine, now it’s just click, click and we’re both off. Honestly you barely notice the weight difference and it’s such a big deal you can always go the carbons. I think it’s a game changer to just get more enjoyment with friends and loved ones.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 5 күн бұрын
Great job!! Yeah I agree makes everything much easier 😊
@KlausCorp
@KlausCorp Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! I always find your videos to be super entertaining and informative! One question that I have: Do these also work as well for sidehits, jumps and smaller tricks as the regular supermatics?
@brohammer
@brohammer 2 ай бұрын
just got mine mounted! can't wait to try them in a few weeks
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Have fun!
@shaybowen2239
@shaybowen2239 2 ай бұрын
Great comparison review. Have seen both your previous ones and it was great to get the insight into the carbon upgrade? Just about to commit to getting a pair and will go non carbon. Can't understand the haters, but some people just want to shout as they have nothing to say! at 60 I'm happy with anything that makes strapping in easier. Cheers
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@RobertoVillaLobby
@RobertoVillaLobby 2 ай бұрын
I had the same experience. Just 100 meters into my first run with them I though "ohw yea, bingo". They strap you in so perfect and they are soooo responsive. They're the perfect match for my Stranda Biru and Freecarver 9000.
@flyguyhelo
@flyguyhelo 2 ай бұрын
Hi Roberto. Did you get the carbon or regular supermatics? just curious. Those 2 boards allow for some serious carving.
@RobertoVillaLobby
@RobertoVillaLobby 2 ай бұрын
@@flyguyhelo The carbons and they carve hard indeed but like malcolm says, they still feel quite natural. No problem to hit jumps or chill with these as well 😌 Would really recommend them!
@martinto8
@martinto8 2 ай бұрын
Super clean carving lines! 👌Do you notice the increased weight of these bindings over standard ones whilst riding? When reading reviews the additional weight is always a discussed point
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
The weight difference isn't noticeable, I think the carbons are only about 20gs lighter per binding
@martinto8
@martinto8 2 ай бұрын
@ Thanks. What I meant was the supermatic bindings weights in general vs standard bindings with just ratchet system. Sorry i wasn’t clear on my question!
@Daz5Daz
@Daz5Daz 2 ай бұрын
The weight of the original Supermatics is only noticeable when you are carrying the board. When riding it's not noticeable at all in my view.
@martinto8
@martinto8 2 ай бұрын
@ Thanks! I’ve already ordered the joker purple supermatics 🙄 I manage to get 10% off rrp
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Winning!
@pgoeleven
@pgoeleven Ай бұрын
I did a few days on Supermatics last season. Got the normal ones for myself this season. They actually have the new/upgraded binding (as demonstrated on the carbons). Last season at some point I noticed they had become “unlocked”. Haven’t had that issue with the new ones. And in general, these are absolutely amazing compared to having to strap in. They really eliminated what for me was just about the worst part of snowboarding. It’s so easy popping in and out you just find yourself doing more you otherwise wouldn’t. Nidecker really needs to work on their documentation tho, because they still show old/outdated information.
@sands7811
@sands7811 2 ай бұрын
They are great. Love the supers
@victoralekseev5671
@victoralekseev5671 Ай бұрын
thanks for review, appreciated. Off the topic: On your toe side carving there is noticeable path of your boot next to the pencil line. Toe side overhanging ? With your snowboarding skills, you can bring your carving few notches up just by getting wider board. My five cents 😊
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Yep
@Druezy
@Druezy Ай бұрын
Just got a pair of these to go with my Ride Insano boots. So hype!
@brennanruane
@brennanruane Ай бұрын
Same mine are coming in tomorrow cant wait to try them out !!
@seangrabia5352
@seangrabia5352 Ай бұрын
Mate awesome style and Technique
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏽🤗
@devinbest3398
@devinbest3398 2 ай бұрын
Love my Supermatics. Not the best freestyle bindings but I love hopping in them for some freeride laps
@bigmanoncampus88
@bigmanoncampus88 2 ай бұрын
When learning to snowboard constantly strapping in and out going up and down a baby slope was a horrible surprise, i hadnt really given it any thought before taking it up and it was the worst part. 2 or 3 minutes to faff about just to do 10 half baked skids and fall on my arse. Then going out into the mountains and it's -15C, 3000m above sea level and blowing 80kmh winds, you really just want to get in and go, not screw about with ratchets clogged up with snow whilst all the skiers bomb off. Supermatics all the way 🎉
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
I will say that they have a bit of a learning curve, and for beginners who are quite unsteady on their feet, the movements you need to make to stand on one foot and balance whilst clicking the other foot in can be a little difficult if you're on anything but a completely flat slope, but yes once you get the hang of that they are for sure easier.
@craig8638
@craig8638 2 ай бұрын
Good review. I got Supermatics because I was tired of how inefficient it is to get in and out of regularbindings. I am older so bending over to strap in is less enjoyable than it was 40 years ago when I started snowboarding.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Damn 40 years ago, early days snowboarding there!
@barraberson
@barraberson 23 күн бұрын
Looking your video and it seems to me that carbons have rounded highbacks -> rounded highbacks don't require rotating and give same support no mater what stance angles you ride. I hope I will try them in near future! All the best
@socalcre8tor
@socalcre8tor 21 күн бұрын
I've been considering these for some time now, but was concerned about the weight. I used to be an advanced snowboarder, however, at 50, and with all the injuries from life, boarding, military, and dumb decisions, I don't have the knees to ride parks anymore, so I don't think weight is going to be much of a concern. With this being one of several reviews, I think I may just pull the trigger and buy them.
@koppins851
@koppins851 Ай бұрын
100 days plus on mine, theres 3 issues I got with mine. First I like the ride feel (all mountain freestyle vet guy) they didn't fail me once. but I think the leaver position to get out of the binding sucks. its counter intuitive to have to push down your leaver and move out the foot the same time. Also its way to far down. Easy fix make a pull leaver which is as high as possible. second weight and footprint side to side is a problem. just make it smaller and not as heavy. 3 criticism are the straps with the plastic. It doesn't slide in as good. hope they carry over the straps and buckles from the carbon, with the flex of the normal version. oh and did I mention, they leaver to get out sucks
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Haha, thanks for sharing!
@rick2tube
@rick2tube 2 ай бұрын
Bravo on another honest, insightful and trustworthy product review. Curious for what scenarios do you not ride with supermatics nowadays?
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Honestly it is mostly down to laziness in changing the bindings, so I have my regular supermatics set up on my twin park board which is what I mostly use for teaching. My new board for this season is the spring break powder twin, that has the carbons on, and then I have a pair of normal two strap bindings that I will put on to another board for when I use that. Like I have a new Stranda carving board that I'll probably just put the normal two strap bindings onto when I set that up, but mostly just so they stay set on my other boards! If I was riding more park and hitting more jumps and wanted the most lightweight solution then I might not use them, but honestly I'm not riding at a level where the slight weight penalty of the supermatics creates any problems.
@rick2tube
@rick2tube 2 ай бұрын
@malcolmmoore appreciate the additional insight.. sounds like nidecker really addressed any version one issues with the 2nd generation carbons.....now they need to send you version 3 next year then you'll have enough sets to cover your quiver of boards to feature them in all your future videos! 😆
@jb-zr7nw
@jb-zr7nw 2 ай бұрын
I was just wondering about these!
@46raulfull
@46raulfull 2 ай бұрын
my priority is getting a new board right now, so i'll have to save a bit on the bindings, but my next upgrade will definitely be getting one of these!
@ShanQueefus
@ShanQueefus 2 ай бұрын
Work more overtime.
@46raulfull
@46raulfull 2 ай бұрын
@@ShanQueefus ?
@HenOnWheels
@HenOnWheels Ай бұрын
No mention of the look on Skiers faces when they realise we're evolving 😅. I've got a set of the previous generation and I think they're fantastic. We just need a rotatable front foot for skating next!
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Yes great idea!!!
@gregsmith7821
@gregsmith7821 2 ай бұрын
Great to see such a level headed review. How do supermatics compare in terms of ride, to normal bindings? Do they stand out as being particularly diferent or are they just the same? If they are the same, (for bench marking purposes) is there a particular binding that they feel exactly the same as?
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
They're pretty similar to the Nidecker Kaon Plus, or probably also quite similar to one of the carbon flow bindings that use the same straps over the top!
@gregsmith7821
@gregsmith7821 Ай бұрын
@malcolmmoore Thanks Malcolm, always handy to know. Well done and keep 'em comming.👍
@laurynassvarca4233
@laurynassvarca4233 5 күн бұрын
Hey, great video Malcom. I'm riding 7/10 stifness board, 7/10 boots , mosty carving groomers. Decided to buy supermatics. Which one would You recommend? Thinking carbon wouldnt be too stiff for me? I'm intermediate. Want to improve my carving, thinking maybe carbon version will help it :) or the will punish me?
@daveg5857
@daveg5857 Ай бұрын
I enjoyed your review. I am that hard-charging, high-speed carver. I have the same Flow NXT- FXs I've had for years. They have carbon fiber high backs, and they are known to be very stiff. My style is a bit less turny, in that I'm finishing most of my turns less than perpendicular to the fall line. I'm hoping you can answer a couple of questions for me: You mentioned something about canting. Are there canting plates available for these? Have you mastered stepping in as you get off the lift?
@dontblate4date
@dontblate4date Ай бұрын
@malcolmmoore Great video! Very helpful!! Is this how their two bindings fit various styles? Supermatic Mid-Stiff Versatile Blended Riders 1. Freeride 2. Carving 3. All-Mountain Mid-Stiff or Ultra-Stiff 4. Freestyle Carbon Supermatic Ultra-Stiff Aggressive Skilled Riders 5. Alpine Snowboarding 6. Backcountry 7. Big Mountain 8. Freeride Freestyle
@paulhofman
@paulhofman 21 күн бұрын
Dear Malcolm, what about the weight? The original Supermatics were very heavy at 2.8 lbs (or 1.3 kg). How much are the new ones?
@andylewis8915
@andylewis8915 23 күн бұрын
Hi Malcom,been looking at the regular Supermarics for a while now and think I’m gonna get some now after watching your vid! Do you have and vids on binding angles and high back lean
@powdreamer1567
@powdreamer1567 2 ай бұрын
What about the weight? Supermatic standard is a bit heavier than strap bindings. Big weight diffrence with the carbon one?
@dj0men666
@dj0men666 Ай бұрын
I've been in flows since their first version when i started back in about 1998 and on my second set (only get once per year!!) and these are starting to show their age and I think the Supermatic are my next set - hoping to go in Feb soI'll see how the cashflow is - might end up squeezing another trip out of these but had a strap fail a couple of years ago..... will have to inspect the straps before i go if I keep. Boots not far off ready as well! eeek
@Funkphenomena
@Funkphenomena 6 күн бұрын
Same with me: I ride those early-gen flow bindings that still hold up well but their boots are falling apart. Literally. I had to save my last trip with Pattex contact glue. :)
@rohandookiesingh6407
@rohandookiesingh6407 10 күн бұрын
Been living in the France Alps for over a decade riding 100's of days on normal bindings. Switched to Supermatics last year riding all mountain and haven't looked back. Honestly the feel and ride in powder is no different. And if you ask about weight, yes they are heavier, but put them on a Capita Megadeath and you offset the weight issue. The only Jerry's on the mountain are the ones that wear DOPE clothing 😛🤣
@seancarm1
@seancarm1 Ай бұрын
hey malcolm thanks for the vid. have you ever tried the flow nx2? I m interested in how they compare. cheers sean
@Funkphenomena
@Funkphenomena 6 күн бұрын
@malcolmmoore What's your opinion about the lack of adjustment to the rotation of the highbacks to set them parallel to the heelside edge? Is this an issue for someone riding +15/-9 or even for those +15/-15?
@hiltithedrill
@hiltithedrill Ай бұрын
as a softboot carver for me it is a must to be able to adapt the orientation of the highback in relation to the edge, i want it parallel to the edge (i know some other carvers dont care) - so this is unfortunately a dealbraker for me. wouldnt be opposed to never be bending over again :P
@Funkphenomena
@Funkphenomena 6 күн бұрын
I wanted to raise the same question. Anyway, does the rounded top of the highbacks help with mobility?
@andreasmacke
@andreasmacke 2 күн бұрын
How do these and the non-carbon ones compare to a Union Atlas in stiffness/responsiveness?
@byronwest2858
@byronwest2858 10 күн бұрын
ive right now got a set of L and XL carbon version and have to choose a pair from the two and send the other back, the XL seems to fit my boots better but there is space between the boot and the left and right of the binding. the size chart matches XL / 45.5 boot but just seems odd to have that space left and right. the heel sits right in to the highback but in theory there is room to move (there is space on both L and XL to left and right between binding but more with XL) is it for ease of stepping in that there is room? if one is ratched in tight does it not matter on the mountain? i cant try them both "live". im an easy going all round rider, no crazy speed, park etc. thank you for your estimation .
@vaudou74
@vaudou74 Ай бұрын
i have back in for years ( snowkite use + snowboard), APO then SP ones, now i have the supermatic, work like a charm.....sometimes the release get blocked ( ice, packed snow? dunno) u can push but it won t release..... now the downside is mainly age related, i have to duck a lot lower to release compared to the other back in who has the release lever behind the spoiler.
@bartsimpsonhead2790
@bartsimpsonhead2790 2 ай бұрын
I know it shouldn't be a factor in buying the Carbons over the regular Supermatics, but any idea what the weight saving is from one over the next? And I watched Torstein Horgmo's Return movie on KZbin the other day and it's pretty awesome - the close-up drone follow shots are next level, and the pow looks sooo good.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
It's only about 20 grams per binding so not that much
@furstein8114
@furstein8114 Ай бұрын
Do you think the Carbon Supermatics would be too stiff for me as a beginner/intermediate snowboarder? I mainly ride groomers and powder (currently I'm not interested in riding park at all). My goal is to improve my carving and ride faster, and I am also someone who likes to crank down the binding ratchet a little bit after each run. Therefore, I’m leaning toward the Carbon Supermatics, but I’m concerned about their stiffness.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Honestly they're not a world away from the regular supermatics, just a bit more responsive, but the supermatics themselves were already pretty responsive. If you're not doing park or anything like that then I think you'll be fine on the carbons if that what you want to go for!
@furstein8114
@furstein8114 Ай бұрын
@malcolmmoore I see, thank you.
@mohammadfarhad4533
@mohammadfarhad4533 2 ай бұрын
Being a carbon binding, shouldn’t it be lighter? Weight of the supermatics is its weakest point. Hope they work on that so i would love to get one.
@ericolmack2350
@ericolmack2350 2 ай бұрын
Lift some weights already. Do you weigh your boots and snowboard too?
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
They're only about 20grams lighter per binding, the added response is the selling point really
@nicknz100
@nicknz100 2 ай бұрын
Have you used the burton stepon bindings? What do you think of those. I guess you might have a favourite boot that won't work with that system.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
I haven't given them a proper go to be honest, tried 2 runs with them at a demo day about 4 years ago, so I imagine they've changed a bit since then.
@alexgould3772
@alexgould3772 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Though I am still torn between the two 🙈😂. How did you find the carbons when taking it easy? I spend maybe half my time carving, but the other half is taking it easier off piste. I know the extra stiffness will be better for carving, but concerned they won't be as fun when slowing it down and wondering if the regulars will be better overall as they aren't exactly no slouch at carving anyway. Interested to know what you reccomend.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I mean both will work, but as you say the regulars will be a little better when you slow things down, and the carbons will be better when you start carving. Both can do it all though so it depends what you want to prioritise!
@alexgould3772
@alexgould3772 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I probably prioritise both equally looking back over the last couple years. However, thinking about what I want to do more of is off piste, trees and untracked snow. I generally only carve if the off piste isn't any good, which the added response to get round trees and the like will be better I guess? I am on Rome Targa's atm which sort of sit between the two on stiffness I believe. Softer will always be easier, but the added stiffness concerns me it will be a bit too twitchy and to be fun as my cruising speed is about 20mph and even carving I am only hitting 25ish mph, 30 tops.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
@alexgould3772 it's a 6 of one, half a dozen of another kind of situation then!
@AlexanderGeorgiev-Marck
@AlexanderGeorgiev-Marck Ай бұрын
Hi, I consider myself an intermediate rider. The ground tricks is the field where I would like to progress and carving of course. I prefer lighter gear. The boards that i am riding are Jones Aviator 2.0 and Salomon Dancehall Pro. Having all this said which binding I have to go for - regular supermatic or carbon verison? When you put two boards next to each other it looks like the highback of the carbon version is higher than the regular supermatic's highback? This is favorable in terms of carving, but is this supposed to be a dealbreaker for regular supermatics in favor of the carbon version. Currently I am using Rome Katana.
@DesignRobPearce
@DesignRobPearce 20 күн бұрын
Hey dude. I know you’re not a fan of Burton step ons but are these worth it for a week a year trips? Thanks
@robertanthony9050
@robertanthony9050 Ай бұрын
I like your style of riding here, what do u have your bindings set at? I’m going to buy a board binding and boots tomorrow. I’m in between beginner and intermediate. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
Thanks so much 😊😊 I'm usually riding +15-12 ✌🏽
@thedrab
@thedrab 22 күн бұрын
At 3:25 you say that your heel-toe transition isn't quite right -- can you elaborate for those of us less experienced at analyzing footage? Is it just the amount you are leaning your shoulders over versus using knees/ankles for tilt with more upright upper body or am I missing it entirely?
@octref
@octref 2 ай бұрын
Hey Malcolm! Thanks for the video. Do you think they are too stiff for park riding? Want to get a pair for hiking features.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
I would probably go for the regular supermatics if you're hiking the park, these will still work but the softer high back and straps on the supermatics will make holding presses etc on boxes and rails easier, also they'll be more forgiving too.
@mahmoudrreda
@mahmoudrreda 2 ай бұрын
Hi Malcom, I sent you an email about the private lessons with no reply, I’d love to know if there’s opening for this season. Thank you love the content.
@xJae14x
@xJae14x Ай бұрын
What’s the weight difference between the two?
@paulwb3434
@paulwb3434 2 ай бұрын
I feel most of the hate and kook calling is directed at Burton (and soon Union) Step Ons. Clews, probably not even worth mentioning. Generally seems there's respect for Supermatics even if a lot of people don't want to ride em. A great design; you can strap in when you need, and keep your favorite boots. Don't think they're for me, but glad they exist. When I see someone riding them, what it indicates to me is that that person gave it thought beyond the first step in/on system they came across. Sure, maybe a shop guy helped, but anyone that gives anything a slight amount of thought these days, respect.
@whatsgoingon3822
@whatsgoingon3822 25 күн бұрын
Malcom I purchased the non carbon Supermatics this week and I am struggling getting my back foot out of the bindings .iam finding it hard to press the release button down to get my foot out before the board starts sliding with my foot stuck in the bindings is the leave to stiff or is the a Technique
@marioandres3333
@marioandres3333 2 ай бұрын
Hi, thank for the video, wich side are u using for your boots? And for a 9 boots?
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
I'm on the XL bindings, if you go to the Nidecker website (link in video description) you can see what size bindings you need for your feet
@RocknCorruptrepublic
@RocknCorruptrepublic 2 ай бұрын
I'm a Mondo 26.5/sometimes boot 9 (US) and got the L Supermatics. I haven't mounted them yet because they're for a hypothetical new board I plan to demo. Lol but currently have the Union Forces in M and they're very similar in dimensions, maybe a bit more bulk around the heel/ankle area of the highbacks because of the tech on the Supermatics. Unrelated, I also didn't noticeably lift one up after the other and consciously feel a weight difference. Excited to test them out this season.
@berryc1983
@berryc1983 2 ай бұрын
我上個雪季也買了Supermatic, 除了體積大了些重了些, 穿脫很方便很喜歡. 但有個致命的缺陷, 腳跟的機構, 當你踩下去固定之後,他是會接觸到雪板的. 但不是整面, 而是鋸齒狀的接觸面,所以會縮小接觸面積=增加壓力, 有機會把雪板壓破... 我的雪板因此被壓破一個洞🥲
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
I have heard this can happen on boards without a laminated top sheet, as in custom made snowboards, but I haven't had this issue on any of my boards that I've used it on. I think the ridges on that part are to stop snow from getting stuck underneath.
@adpbobcat
@adpbobcat 2 ай бұрын
I'm absolutely not in the market for new bindings, i love my current flows. But im always looking at the supermatic carbons and the flow carbons...first world problems
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Very much so haha, the flows will weigh less, and have less heel cup sticking out, that's their benefit!
@lessrabek4748
@lessrabek4748 Ай бұрын
Hey Malcolm, What size Powder Twin did u get and what is your boot size and weight. I tried that board and loved it! Just not sure what size to get. My boot size 11 but I'm 15 lbs over weight limit. Thx
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
I got the 159, I'm a shoe size US 12 and weigh about 85kg, hope this helps!
@Coerced
@Coerced Ай бұрын
I'm by no means a special top X % rider. I'd say I'm an average guy in that regard. But I'm bigger and stronger than average (100kg, 188cm - powerlifter) and looking for new bindings. These step-ins really appeal to me and I found a discount that put the normal and carbon supermatics at a negligible price difference. Which ones would suit me best as a 1 set solution for my 1 board quiver (ride moderator 165W)?
@danieljurisevic
@danieljurisevic 5 күн бұрын
I was holding the supermatic in my hands and had one fear, can you just tell me.... do they feel LOOSE when you click in, couse when I ride I need to tighten the straps on max so my foot doesn't move an INCH. I 've got a feeling with these, they clcik, hold your foot, but there's a little of a wiggle in it while you ride
@cnghiem67
@cnghiem67 Ай бұрын
Is it my imagination or are you riding with positive angles on both of you bindings?
@TheNonsenseAdventures
@TheNonsenseAdventures 2 ай бұрын
"ive actually spent time using them, so i feel i can give my input" (and not paod for review)..... I wish more folk would do this, rather than "ive opened the box and cause ive been paid, ill tow the party line". I love my regular supermatics, but i wish spare parts were sold in all the colourways, so i customise mine 😂
@mayankgupta716
@mayankgupta716 2 ай бұрын
Hey Malcolm, have you tried these with the Stranda Biru? And if so how do they perform?
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKKniI2Vr5l6h9ksi=v7SDrG6R39yTDB27 This is the regular supermatics on the Biru, I'm yet to put the carbons on though, but I would imagine a similar ride with a bit more response 👍
@gbergma1
@gbergma1 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I am going on season 2 on my Supermatics. Have you found that the ratchet that locks the heal cup down is finicky? I need a few good kicks to get it to lock now, it's odd because it's only on my left side. The additional buckle/strap locks are not staying locked, and I lose my position and don't realize it until I try to step in.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 2 ай бұрын
Nope none of those issues for me!
@hawkeire2414
@hawkeire2414 Ай бұрын
i ride "regular stance" so left foot forward, normally at the start of every season atleast the first few rids, the side of my foot starts to kill me..(so up along the side of the foot from the baby toe on the left foot, i did get a new board and bindings during covid but this problem started last year maybe in 2022 cant really remember, My boots are old tho they covered atleast 10 season now., could this be the reason?
@jedmosely6396
@jedmosely6396 27 күн бұрын
i currently have what i believe is an older version of the supermatics and have noticed my heel popping up sometimes and was wondering if these fix that? also, I get 40% off on Nidecker so im wondering if it is worth it regardless of the small issue I have with my bindings.
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore 27 күн бұрын
There's been some small improvements here and there but nothing in the overall baseplate design, so if you were getting heel lift back then I would imagine it's something more to do with the boot to binding fit rather than anything else.
@jedmosely6396
@jedmosely6396 26 күн бұрын
@@malcolmmoore it might be because i have the straps too tight preventing me from getting all the way in, I'll have to do more testing
@WellingtonCordeiro
@WellingtonCordeiro Ай бұрын
I don't really see many people who get triggered by the Supermatics, they hate on Klew, Flow and Burton Step In designs 😂 I do have some inside knowledge that Nidecker is introducing a new system to their child brands that is like a Supermatic Lite. One of their riders hits my home mountain and I saw it in action.
@ChanjungChang
@ChanjungChang Ай бұрын
Hi Malcolm, if you set the forward lean to the max, will it make difficult to step in/out? I am considering in getting one but I usually ride with max forward lean. Thanks
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
I have it in the middle, doesn't really make much difference because the high back is pulled back until you step in anyways, then it clicks forward into place
@malcolmmoore
@malcolmmoore Ай бұрын
I have it in the middle, doesn't really make much difference because the high back is pulled back until you step in anyways, then it clicks forward into place
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