I will never forgive Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider(MTG Commander Roast)

[@slayinderp7501]

Don't forget Vorin also doubles all poison counters because there's absolutely no way green could do 5 damage.

[@maldhound]

Idk man this is like the only card in green I’ve ever seen be capable of hitting for more than 1-2 damage

[@AsuraBoss]

@@maldhound*On turn 0

[@elfboy676]

With Fynn the Fangbearer, even mana dorks are win cons.

[@joeldykman7591]

​@maldhound my dude forgot about the infect ball lightning called putrefax. Used to run it when I played xenegod edh.

[@Archaonn]

There's definitely NO WAY a 5 power green creature with HASTE and INFECT could exist

[@fearjunkie]

I hadn't realized that Vorinclex affected how much loyalty planeswalkers enter with. Jesus Christ.

[@DoctorKarul]

And half for your opponents, and round down their toxic 1 to zero... it's killer

[@Lord_Leech]

yep its counters. Same with poison counters and neg counters as well.

[@brennanruiz1803]

@@DoctorKarul Fun fact, according to Arena, you handle all the poison counters from every instance of Toxic simultaneously, so you just need to do toxic 1 twice to do one poison counter For some reason

[@phaeste]

​@@brennanruiz1803this might be correct but never take arena as proof. Here is an example: If you have multiple abilities that increase or multipy damage by sources you control then the controller of the permanent who is dealt the damage gets to choose the order in which those effects are applied. In arena it just does max damage

[@drakekalluna8150]

There's a reason it's still almost 70 dollars foil

[@BenMarcWilliams]

The most horrifying thing about Vorinclex is that he's Colossal Dreadmaw _with upside._

Oh god, it totally powercreeps Craw Wurm!

[@PhoenicopterusR]

Wym? Colossal Dreadmaw is all upside, it itself IS the upside.

[@Betex9s]

Cant cheat it out with gishath though-

[@bobwilson679]

@@Betex9s A man of culture, you know what's up

[@oldbleezy9211]

You know what, I'm actually a fan of tax evasion. In fact, WotC should make a green card called "Tax Evasion."

[@SoloWing88]

White has a carf called land tax so green being the best it should evade the worst commander color and fortnite dance in front of it

[@antialpaka1186]

something something tax evasion is an obligation!

[@flameofmage1099]

That would actually be flavorful too if they put it in the right kind of set.

[@Fausto_4841]

@@flameofmage1099 more evidence they didn't know what the fuck they were doing with New Capenna.

[@bradsimpson8724]

​@@Fausto_4841Thank you. I was just thinking "this could have been a pretty flavourful New Capenna card."

[@scottclark3761]

As a person who runs this commander.....I can't say he's wrong. The deck is fast, can be aggro, but the superfriends aspect is wild. Play Ugin, The Spirit Dragon and Ultimate. I tapped an Everflowing Chalice for 96 mana once. This guy left war crimes behind in his cradle, folks....he's moved right the hell on. With a Doubling Season at 5 mana, this gets more than insane.

[@charadreemerr4195]

Bloody 'ell... Quadrupling your own counters and halfing the opponents' counters. All you need is some form of cheese with extra combat steps and Helm of the Host, then you have multiplicity through the roof. (I've seen it done with the Progress Dominus creature thing that doubles tokens made, and it eventually got to the point where one copy became 612 copies (I think))

[@Fausto_4841]

@@charadreemerr4195 just be thankful they didn't make this fucker gruul.

[@matthewalvarojr.2634]

​​@@charadreemerr4195ou think doubling season + anointed procession (+Glory dominus?) is crazy. Check the math on creating copies of Academy Manufactor.

[@hellbound9418]

Yeah i wouldnt play with you

[@Exile559]

I'll counter that.

[@ayaanmohammad6645]

Vorinclex is without a doubt the most evil praetor, and before anyone objects, this card halves counters you put, ROUNDED DOWN. And since most non-green, aka law-abiding colors put just one counter on a creature, have fun putting 1/2 of 1, rounded down to ZERO. Also, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger.

[@dragonfire72]

Also also, he fucks over Infect. As well as making Infect even worse. I get to hit you with 5 poison counters and you lose but you have to hit me for 20.

[@DarkeLourd]

@@dragonfire72 Or more since he rounds down.

[@shishsquared]

@@dragonfire72 if you're putting them on one at a time, you can never get a single poison counter on anyone when an opponent controls Vorinclex.

[@thetime-wornspire9095]

Jin gitaxias reducing you’re maximum hand size by 7 would like to have a word

[@xXMGVXx]

@@thetime-wornspire9095 I play madness and my hand size is irrelevant. My vampires getting zero +1/+1 counters a bunch of times excites me greatly on the other hand. Making atraxa and edgar markov look like reasonable cards should make anybody worried about the power level of this mono green beat stick.

[@carlosolivares363]

This man is the greatest thing in Magic I love these videos so much

[@maldhound]

You are too kind but I appreciate it! 🙏

[@Fausto_4841]

this is just about the only magic content i can even watch anymore. I can't express enough gratitude for the brevity. it's not too quick like tiktok or shorts, but it's not 15 or 30 fkn minutes saying the same thing over and over either.

[@pencilwatchesstuff791]

Buff cubone is the funniest thing I've heard all week

[@TheMEGAJCB]

Ah yes, I recently got my girlfriend a Vorinclex commander deck she built as her birthday present because I kinda wanted her to have her own physical deck to play instead of having to rely solely on my own. And man, as much as I love her being happy and enjoying EDH the war crimes committed upon me and the rest of the table with that deck keep me awake at night. I especially felt the Nissa who Shakes the Earth part, since she has actually pulled that shit on me twice already. I am the Kozilek the Great Distortion (among many others such as Krenko, Nekusar or Meren to name a few) player, so it's not like I can complain about the atrocities she pulls off in our games hahaha.

[@thefierypaladin126]

Run Devoted Druid

[@sammysammyson]

@@thefierypaladin126 Meta tech.

[@sammysammyson]

Look, we can complain all we want. Commander players complaining about war crimes except the many committed by their own decks is just a thing we do. Cheers lol

[@klevinratnayaka3528]

I’m interested in building the same deck any chance it’s cheap or expensive?

[@TheMEGAJCB]

@@klevinratnayaka3528 Depends on what you consider to be a cheap or and expensive deck and how do you want to build it, but just seeing the price tag of the Vorinclex should let you know that it will most likely not be cheap regardless of your standards. Commander is pretty proxy friendly afaik, so you can just ask your playgroup if they are fine with you having some proxies with the expensive (within reasonable margins) cards.

[@bradsimpson8724]

Ah, Vorinclex. As far as I can recall, this was the only time I built and played a mono-green Commander deck. I had a good handful of planeswalkers in that deck, along with a smattering of infect creatures. I could only play that deck with my daughter and her friends, because my regular playgroup would have kicked my ass.

[@KLil37]

I'm surprised your daughter and her friends didn't kick your ass

[@roercula8425]

Was it torment or a gigachad daughter that didnt care?

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

Playing a Monstrous Raider deck against your own daughter feels like child abuse 🤣

[@bradsimpson8724]

​@@roercula8425She was okay with it, but her friends beat me up when I drove them home. Fuckin' nine-year-olds.

[@SingingInferno]

Double infect is what really makes Vorin so much of a threat in the current commander climate. Infect just got a HUUUUGE amount of support from the entire phyrexian story block, so only needing to do 5 infect damage is so laughably easy that it's damn near free.

[@unevenelephant469]

Solemnity says lmao.

[@jonathanpetersen1623]

Shoot. Put vorniclex in a fynn the fangbearer deck and it only takes 3 hits from a 1/1 deathtouch to kill someone

[@tallanbowhay1645]

@@unevenelephant469because green has no ways to deal with enchantments haha. I play vorinclex and sure sometimes its back breaking but its such a fun moment blowing up the Solemnity a turn or two later and getting back to your war crimes

[@stevolam182]

@@tallanbowhay1645how does Vori necessarily work with Solemnity?

[@HeraldOfOpera]

Find a way to give him infect and he becomes literally just Blightsteel.

[@paulcurran302]

Vorinclex is doubling season in the command zone. It’s a multiplier on a stick, and pretty much all multipliers in magic are busted. It just so happens that Vorinclex doubles like half the win cons in the game.

[@tacothursdays6546]

"People play commanders for 3 reasons: 1) Drip 2) It Bonks Hard™ 3) It Annihilates the Geneva Convention" Buff Cubone here does all 3

[@pichutube]

Geneva Convention? Where I'm from we call those the Geneva Suggestions

[@somejerk5662]

​@@pichutubeGeneva Checklist

[@TheSOGchronicles]

​@@pichutubesuggestions? Man talk to me when its Geneva bingo night

[@Distortia1994]

@@TheSOGchronicles Geneva Bingo? More like the Geneva Checklist. Gotta go through the _entire_ thing.

[@TheSOGchronicles]

@@Distortia1994 ah but bingo is more horrifying as your quite litterly turning peoples lives into a game as compared to a job *which people get payed for doing some of these things already*

[@xXMGVXx]

Anybody ever questioning my decision to kill this thing the moment it gets played gets my answer: "Rounded down! Anything that does not create multiple counters does literally nothing." MoM Elesh has the decency to nope directly in your face while I have met people arguing monstrous rider would let other people play the game while being on the board.

[@manaraider628]

Vorinclex is fun with the new Vraska, her -9 puts 9 poison counters on the opponent if they have none, but with vorinclex that becomes 18, so you play vorinclex then next turn play vraska and one hit kill with 18 poison

[@jobot0114]

"Next turn" lmao, nah that shit is happening in a single combo

[@laytonjr6601]

You're playing mono green you can cast your 6 mana commander on turn 3. Edit: this Vraska is mono black (I checked because I didn't know any mono green Vraska, she's usually Black/Green)

[@kikihardxcoremedia2937]

So funny story.. he’s one of my bf’s favs. I was thinking of buying a version of him to add to my Phyrexian line up. Was thinking of this card so hard two days ago. Yesterday I get to work to find a Phyrexia All Will Be One collector’s booster from a colleague. I worked for a bit and said screw it and opened it. The second or third slot had Vorinclex, and not just any version. It was the foil concept preator. So I some how manifested this boy in to my life. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@daviddupler3761]

The interaction between Luminous Broodmoth and an opponent's Vorinclex is hilarious

The aristocrats player has gained a new ally

[@georgefeldman5647]

One of the few times that an opponent having this card is upside.

[@joshuanoon5658]

He's not spikes an dirt. He's raw muscles, sinew, an other tissue reused from things he killed when he decided to planeswalk without a spark. Also I just use him in my kyler deck, make my humans super swole

[@HeraldOfOpera]

He didn't decide. Someone else decided to chuck him through planes because he's expendable and he's like "are there people to eat? Yes? Cool. All Shall Be One!"

[@joshuanoon5658]

@HeraldOfOpera your not wrong. Lol.

[@bradsimpson8724]

Ah, the Kyler Frat House deck. That's a fun one.

[@Zambedos]

I played a game on arena where Nissa ulted and I realized hey, I'm not dead on board. Spit out a ton of tokens for blockers & explore triggers, which let lurking chupacabra start picking off lands and slowly but surely took that game.

[@michaelgadbaw4780]

I love this 'series' if you will... like your description of how to use/abuse these cards are hilarious and on point. Keep up the good stuff!! Also 1st ask for a next video one of my beloved commanders, Queza, Augur of Agonies.

[@blainestephenson8711]

I dropped that exact Nissa combo on my friends once, with a landfall proliferation trigger ...it was how i ended up with a 50/50 vorinclex. He got removed, but guess what? Nyxbloom ancient and all the land gave me a 208/208 stonecoil serpent the next turn. Horrifying deck.

[@lordice5]

Thanks man. You give me so many ideas to cause as much distress to friends and loved ones as possible.

[@gaetanlebarbenchon1423]

Thank you for making this video! I'm into MTG since 7 month and my deck is the tyranid swarm. I really needed to know how apply and how to use my vorinclex. Thank you man good video! What a great accent!

[@andrewmcnally5013]

Damn, bro. Roasting my whole Vorinclex deck right there! Didn't even get to the Poison Counter doubling tho.

[@georgeblair3894]

"Show us on the doll where the bad Green deck violated you"

[@TheSpectralFX]

My dude, Tyrranax Rex is where its at with this Commander. That or a walking ballista that somehow ends up with infect.

[@collinbeal]

I'm sorry. That Vorinclex into Nissa was probably me if it happened on Arena 😂. I had a Nissa deck whose entire game plan was to tutor up Vorinclex so she could immediately ultimate, and then animate all my lands

[@DCdabest]

Vorinclex, my beloved. So many counters. So much salt from opponents. So beautiful. ....until he gets mind controlled or some shit and suddenly he is on the other team and he is too strong for me to remove now......

[@logeybear3018]

Swiftfoot Boots are so necessary for him. Not only do I not want my opponents to take control of him, it also eliminates any possibility of a Murder, Exile, or cheeky aura attachment (though if someone wants to board wipe, hope you have a Mithril Coat or even better a Heroic Intervention in hand).

[@mikewhit2197]

I pulled a vorinclex monstrous raider, built a super friends deck, and now I dont have any real friends...

[@Angelec99]

You never fail to give me new deck ideas

[@jacobd1984]

Forget planes walker cards, my favorite thing to do with this guy is get out The Great Synthesis and power through chapters 1-2 at the same time. Your opponent(s) see it coming a mile away, but it's amazing if you can pull it off.

[@Gitaxixn]

"Maybe... Vorinclex isn't all that useless." - Jin-Gitaxias, probably

[@maxinesenior596]

I love how all your criteria end with "can they get it"

[@ayejay2688]

one of my original decks was this dude! so as a monstrous raider player, it warms my heart that someone got off nissa's ult on you

[@Rosta720]

Playing this with Ugin or almost any liliana is one of my favorite interactions in mtg

[@danieljohnson9917]

A fun interaction: if an opponent has Vorinclex out, their Vorinclex acts as an enabled for your own Devoted Druid combo (or anything else in the Devoted Druid cycle, but infinite mana is generally the best option). You know, because green ain't stupid enough, so it makes OTHER green stupid.

[@jodylester9118]

"...the whole thing is spikes and dirt." Didn't realize Vorinclex was a crust punk, but that checks out

[@rocktheworldlove]

I cracked at “that happened to me” I was like there it is. I knew this one was personal

[@marklafrancis253]

“The whole thing is spikes and dirt” *mumbles approvingly in mud and sticks speak*

[@SunD45h]

Thank you for reminding me I need that card in my super friends deck

[@notahooman3598]

I pulled him in one of the 6 dollar booster packs my friends and I bought for stocking stuffers last christmas and immediately made the cheekiest stompy green commander deck ive ever owned. love my vorinclex

[@charlescourtwright2229]

Best part of the Nissa, who shakes the world + Vorin combo is those forest are now tapping for double, so your looking at 40+ mana for green once that goes off

[@lukeschonkeren4602]

You should do a roast on Isamaru, hound of Konda. It’s a legendary 1 mana 2/2 and no abilities. Fairest commander ever.

[@sonofdysonsphere969]

Thank you for making me realize I need to take Vorinclex out of the 99 and make a super friends deck with him.

[@sarcastic_ocupie1669]

To add to the suffering you add Varaska, Betrayer’s fang into the mix, use ultimate and give someone 18 poison counters.

[@Lukaz2009]

Hilariously enough, Vorinclex does not want to run any Battles in his deck list. They'd have double the Defense counters, making them even harder to flip. And your opponent's Battles would become easier to flip.

[@Dreadnote-pf7of]

Well, maybe he want them. But its became an ever harder challenge, he set big goals to reach grand evolution, green dude doesn't forget about green grind 👊😎💀 just bring bigger creatures and pump with more tokens, if you swinging with 100/100 manadork - it doesn't matter if battle is 6 or 12 defence 😎😎😎

[@Lukaz2009]

@@Dreadnote-pf7of I mean, you aren't wrong about the green mana grindset.

[@PhoenicopterusR]

So what you're saying is that we can use Vorinclex to make a battle hug deck?

[@Lukaz2009]

@@PhoenicopterusR No, because your opponent's would have to be playing Battles for them to benefit from Vorinclex halving the number of defense counters they start with.

[@PhoenicopterusR]

@@Lukaz2009 Panoptic Mirror or Elite Arcanist + Fractured Identity, then just target any battle you control with Fractured Identity. That should give everyone but you a copy of the battle, right?

[@CasHanover]

Soooooo. Tatyova, Steward of the tides. I did something like that in simic with that vorinclex. "Ok, so a total of 38 lands are on the board for me, all are indestructible, and are flying 3/3s"

[@chazmanious]

My roommate has this card as a commander and I’m really glad he doesn’t have any planeswalkers in that deck.

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

"it's all spikes and dirt" I see you are familiar with the hardcore scene.

[@MongoTheMagnificent666]

"The whole thing is spikes and dirt" So, you've never been with a French woman I take it.

[@maldhound]

Damn you got me there

[@NWStoic]

My next deck is gonna be called "Spikes and Dirt" Keep on ragin' bro. I can't get enough.

[@NobodyDungeons]

Me you plays 40 forests then proceeds to start digging everyone’s graves as a spam out 80 mana worth of 40/40 death machines with trample on my next turn.

[@NotDarthThanaton]

0:28 Kathril, the Aspect Warper smiles in the most evil manner similar ti Patrick from SpongeBob 😈

[@Rannulfus]

I only ever think about how many counters Vorinclex would give me, I don't ever think about the fact that he'd halve counters for my victims.

[@jmaj922]

These videos are the embodiment of people's PTSD to certain cards

[@Eramiserasmus]

Green Tax Evasion has hit the upper limit.

[@fernandotanigushi6842]

They made Fynn and said "This commander is a little weak, he needs a little bit of end game"

[@matthewalvarojr.2634]

I have doubling season and vorinclex in my Atraxa superfriends. Opponents think their safe when they kill them. Out comes Eerie Ultimatum to bring them back as well as all the revived planeswalkers getting the effects of both.

[@FanOfMostEverything]

Vorinclex as Mega Marowak is a mental image I truly do not know how to feel about. But yes, Doubling Season jacked up on steroids, glistening oil, and moose meat is a Problem™.

[@markreitanpedersen8227]

Buffed Cubone is the best sentence ever 😂

[@michaelzimmermann353]

Building a commander deck around this card currently. Gonna be lit.

[@dely9999]

Me: So how many lands are you going to play again? Vorinclex Players: Y E S

[@NWStoic]

Watched video, IMMEDIATELY WENT AND BOUGHT TWO COPIES. Thank you, SIR!

[@TheCorruptGamer4]

don't forget nyxbloom with those 40 lands XD

[@omnimon401]

My personal favorite example of how to use Vorinclex is with Mana Bloom. Pay 10 for X, it enters with 20 counters. Thank you Vorinclex, for the generous "tax break"

[@warsongchief1]

This with a Voracious Hydra with a Panharmonicon would be a nightmare.

[@redraijin8696]

I 100% want to play that combo. But only once.

[@brandoncarter3042]

I’m one of those players you hate. As soon as this guy released I got one and made a hydra/elf/planeswalker deck around him. I love it!

[@nightsgiftstarrealm2627]

Green is really ridiculous, it takes to much away from others, and I can't believe that creature, you pay six for a 6/6, with trample which is what a card should be getting at that level. But the haste ontop of it is not needed, nor are the doubling counters or half them, that feels more like at least a 9 mama to 12 mana card.

[@fastballncs]

Me laughing in persist/undying loops when they drop him

[@knoble4797]

Atraxa Grand Unifier roast when? You KNOW she deserves it

[@jayemdaewarehouse9027]

I actually enjoyed Vorinclex in my Freyalise Elfball back in the day, though I think that was probably the fair way to play Vorinclex. Also, have you heard the good news of Karona, Flase God?

[@creepercommande4171]

Vorinclex walks into the 1+/1+ counter player’s house and slaps them in the face.

[@nhogan84]

Blue may be committing crimes, but Green is committing them against humanity.

[@cah11111]

But it goes even deeper than that, opponent sagas don't get lore counters when Vorinclex comes out, while your saga's get double the counters. Your sagas fully resolve their effects twice as fast, their sagas never resolve at all! Also, tutoring up 40 lands and making them indestructible with Nissa? Please, that's not broken enough, try getting Garruk, Unleashed out with immediate access to the "tutor any creature I want at the end step" emblem, which means your opponent needs stack interaction to stop it, or interact with it after the fact. And if they have none, it's GG!

[@robertharp16]

I run him in a mono green Omnath locus of mana deck that has a fair number of plains walkers and hydras, the insanity that can unfold with even 1 other doubler is insane

[@jayredharpstudios9672]

I would love to see him roast either Elesh Norn, MoM, or Sheoldred, the Apocalypse

[@SatinFoxx]

Welp...found my new favorite commander.

[@Lord_Leech]

I have a friend who runs this commander as a hydras deck and the most he's swung with one creature before was over 5k damage.

[@Scotty-h6k]

Goes great with gurrak, then I summon any creature to the battlefield every end step.

[@strikermodel]

I knew planeswalker abilities were affected, I had no idea it also worked on their loyalty counters on entry. That's neato.

[@TopsideCrisis346]

Never actually pulled Vorinclex during Kaldhiem's run in Standard, and I'm STILL salty about it! 🤬 Also - you need to do a video on Oviya Pashiri.

[@tylershannon9319]

Have ya done Bruse Tarl yet? Cause if not I'd love to see you roast a card whose lore is just "Is the mtg equivalent of mald hound". Seriously, he supposedly scares off eldrazi by calling them ugly.

[@halcy0n-585]

I had never heard of this man until today, which is a true shame cuz I've seen his flavor text before

[@tylershannon9319]

@@halcy0n-585 I like pairing him with Silas Renn, for a good artifact value engine. When I found out about his lore my appreciation for him only grew, lol.

[@halcy0n-585]

@@tylershannon9319 That's one heck of a color mix. What's your mana base look like for something like that?

[@tylershannon9319]

@@halcy0n-585 I play with proxies, so near perfect. All ten fetches, the abds, and the four triomes I can run make up the bulk of it. I also have some mdfcs and otowara and the like. Color fixing when not constrained by budget is basically a non issue in commander. It's just that the mana base alone would be like... I think over $1000 with real magic cards. Definitely in the hundreds of dollars, even if I switched out the abds for shock lands.

[@master-zaynelotus5048]

Man said Roided out Cubone, so subscribed. Please do Light-paws? Or Yisan?

[@HaikBoyadjian2]

This man's reaction to these cards are the best. Have you seen the other 2 vorinclex. You might have a heart attack if you read those.

[@thewitchcoven]

I put him in Kibo group hug with no planeswalkers, just to set people off. I only use it for my monkeys and apes, but they'll have to watch my board relentlessly to ensure that.

[@40mmProShop]

Didn't know he existed but I'm definitely making a mono green with him now

[@AbstractStew]

Holy Hell, that effect applies to poison counters.

[@maldhound]

Yup

[@Flash-ml9gz]

I play Atraxa Superfriends with this card. This response is warranted

[@patrickcoleman6429]

My guy, I still need you to do a vid like this for Tergrid, the God of Fright! Please may guy I need to see it!

[@speedingstorm6074]

The only time Armageddon is justified

[@chaseva9685]

Mald, could you please do Juri Master of Revue or Kelsien the Plaugr next? Love your content man

[@Pluto137]

When I realized votinclex spelled yo ALL tokens it dropped my jaw

[@Ryluth]

I own the alternative artwork for this dude and never had a reason to play him...today I was given a reason, a purpose

[@randallfinkbonner5476]

I run this in a GU historic with Double Major and Search for Greatness. Thanks to the new plethora of cards with phyrexian mana costs, it's easy to fufill requirements for Search for Greatness and i'm constantly turn5/6 Vorinclex with a double major cast on top of it.

[@lordgzstg6181]

Thats when you top deck settle the wreckage and exile all thier lands when they attack you.

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Pitbull named princess:

[@hask620]

To be fair, about 80% of +1/+1 counters are put on one at a time. They might be a ton of instances of 1 at a time, but they're one at a time. So most of the time halving your opponents counters won't do too much as far as creatures. It just fucks planeswalkers to death

[@robertcarsten4050]

Half of 1 rounded down is zero. Hoses counter based decks for the very reason you stated they are normally put on 1 at a time.

[@CodenameJD]

The best part is how this isn't even the most busted Vorinclex. First time I saw the original was when I borrowed a friend's deck and playedit myself, and it just felt _dirty_ to freeze lands if they wanted to do _anything_

[@derickbowne8633]

I cheated out an OG vorenclex in my cascade deck on turn 4 for 2 mana the other day, bringing some beefy friends with him and I actually felt like a bad person lmao

[@arche2460]

Imagine a deck that's just lands, the cards shown here, and the rest of the cards are just Horde Rats

[@squxshyy]

I made a proliferate/poison counter deck with ixhel scion of atraxa as my commander. I am thinking of buying Vorinclex to keep my friends from giving their token creatures +1/+1 counters and every time i proliferate it would double it. My friends love playing token/copy decks so it would be really fun watching them start to panic and it becomes public enemy number one