Male Lions Losing Their Grip on the Pride (Tintswalo Males)

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[@hello-laura]

*Mbiri lionesses are the most intelligent survivors and will do what they need to in order to see their young prosper and for the pride to grow. They know what they’re doing.*

[@private4918]

Good that "Tristan" explained clearly a few things here. Yup, the Mbiri pride with the "Tintswalo" males is clearly in the category of "inbreeding" by now. One of the adult lionesses, presumably still alive, is the mother of Orpen Junior and his sister. The mother herself is probably a daughter of the 3 Northern Matimba males. Orpen Junior and his sister were probably sired by "Junior" Nkuhuma, presumed to be the son of Nduna (Matimba). Fortunately, Nduna seems to have come from a different pride than the other 5 Matimbas, though he still could've been sired by the same males. Buddy, partner of Junior, was most likely not related. He might've been the father of the Orpen-Skorro male in Londolozi. Nobody remembers this stuff, right? Junior Mbiri might get driven out of the pride pretty soon by the remaining 2 Tintswalos, and they really should do it. Let's just hope they don't seriously injure him, and he finds lionesses to mate with elsewhere. Too bad he has no "partner" right now, but the longer he lives, he might get that chance. That's what could've happened with the Ottawa male, and it can clearly be seen now in Sabi Sands. But, nobody remembers the Ottawa male. His "death" really is suspicious.

[@bpprod.4981]

Othawa male also known Nguvu? If so, there was nothing suspicious about his death from what I can remember. He repeatedly ventured into Birmingham territory to meet with one female and one night did not come back. Nhenha, Tinyo (and likely the pride) killed him and rightfully so. He was my favorite lion at the time, but that's how it goes when you're mating with someone else's female in rival territory.

[@juanvaskez2488]

Nothing suspicious sadly he was kill by Birmingham

[@thomasgumersell9607]

I thoroughly enjoyed your video. The beauty of the African Savanah lush with green grass. The variety of wild Fauna you encounter is amazing. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨

[@jamesjamesnet]

Great stuff, cheers Tristan watching from South Florida USA

[@jpcattaneo8181]

Splendid pictures of landscapes with various beautiful animals ! 👍 Hope the youngs cheetahs can survive into this environment with their mother beside them till they'll be fully grown 🤞❤. Bless them 🙏

[@sammahmoud3174]

I think nacile getting snared effected their venturing out. Since he recovered, they start spending more time away once they take over another pride, they will leave this pride.

[@seffronmusicofficial4418]

Watching all the way from the Maldives.

[@heavenlydays2838]

Your Best one to start this new year..TY EMENCLY ❤ IT.

[@johnotooledoggames2336]

🇮🇪 wpw just amazing wildlife beautiful wild animals 🦁🐈🐈🦁🐈🦁 🦒🦒🦒

[@eliacristy5259]

Did the Tintswalo and Mbiri males have an altercation recently? Last time I checked, the Mbiris were in a bad state. Can't wait to see Mandevu and Ncila.

[@blackice1796]

It probably had nothing to do with the tintswalo boys. There are bigger coalitions north and east of the mbiri territory that could be pushing in.

[@yoonheetodd]

So beautiful and awesome 👍👍❤❤🥰

[@jey524]

Stunning visuals

[@arturgjoni8881]

Great stuff, cheers Tristan

[@richardthornhill4630]

Some sightings are much more active than others. Good to be in the right place at the right time.

[@buffiesilver]

Oh no the boys will not be happy when they get back. Beautiful video thank you for sharing.

[@private4918]

Not sure about "losing grip on their pride," they might just be trying to "expand" their territory, find more lionesses to mate with. This is actually a good thing because of the relation between the "Tintswalo" males and "their pride." Otherwise, all these lionesses should be willing to mate, except maybe the mother of the cub-subs sired by the Tintswalos.

[@ngxibinoboya]

It seems that every male (except for Buddy Orpen) that has mated with the Mbiri lionesses over these past few years is related to them in some way or other.

[@KevinStandow-um5ot]

Tristan ,Wild Dogs weren’t always in your lodges region there were they ? Their making this area their home it seems ? I know the pups safety is predicated on a den that’s low key , Cool ! Kevin

[@ManhNguyen-jp7km]

nice

[@nataliashadeed8982]

has anyone seen the 2 white liions? the brother and sister? i hope they are still around

[@emancipatedlionm9215]

So very glad to see them; it's very un4tunate that the youngster is behaving like a youngster -taking advantage of the absence of parents/dad. Ncila n M really need stability ( his injury really set them back) hoping for more order n safety for them( sad that Lambile is supposedly no more). Very beautiful grasslands, shrubs-definitely signs of life along with other animals. thanks🦁💥

[@deeT02]

Ncile is completely healed and doing well.

[@emancipatedlionm9215]

@@deeT02 i know that he's well n looking so amazing... referring to his lost time as leader of the pride n his return... that created some disruption

[@jean-marccaudrelier17]

La famille des prédateurs est au complet et le lion profite de la situation pour s'occuper des lionnes, c'est calme et les girafes en profite pas de prédateur dans le coin.

[@molelinthibeli]

The Tintswalo males are a strange coalition, they should be more focused on maintaining their legacy. Have they even sired any offspring in this pride?

[@zone_Magazine_reporter]

nope , they have had cubs but they've not survived , don't forget they are from this pride , except the narhu male ,

[@MrLoesoe]

Are their mothers and sisters in the Mbriri pride? If yes then they should move on to take over other prides so they can make offspring. Also another male coalition should push out the young Orphen male​@@zone_Magazine_reporter

[@tylermartin9017]

@@zone_Magazine_reporterlambile is now gone

[@molelinthibeli]

Yeah, it's probably better if they move elsewhere to avoid inbreeding. It's a complicated situation

[@raj0n]

That sub male in the video should be their son.

[@Leopard_Lover]

😻😻😻🩷🩷🩷 🦁🦁🦁🦁

[@tylermartin9017]

I always saw them as protectors of the pride not dominate males

[@ngxibinoboya]

They are protectors of the pride because they are the dominant males

[@tylermartin9017]

@@ngxibinoboya you need to read what I said again and it’s two different things when talking abut the tintswalo males they are not mating with the females they are also from this pride so they really aren’t being dominant males of the Mbiri pride more like looking after them but you didn’t get that

[@ngxibinoboya]

@@tylermartin9017 Being protectors of the pride and being dominant males are one and the same thing. They are not mutually exclusive. Besides, it is known that they are from this pride but they have been behaving as pride males regardless (Roaring, scent marking, patrolling). Even the rangers have considered them the dominant pride males for all intents and purposes. It's only now that they've been making themselves scarce and venturing into the Kruger National Park

[@ElizabethCarrero-vb9if]

Absolutely stunning video the picture is so clear and crispy the sound is unbelievable it's almost as you're there the wild dogs the bulls the

[@ElizabethCarrero-vb9if]

The sound as your there picture crispy clear the wild dogs beautiful color the sounds that the hippo makes as if you're there❤️🌻🌞 and the Cheetahs are growing fast and the lionesses are looking so strong healthy 🥰🦁🌺🍀🪻I just hope the young male lion 🦁does not get hurt by the older lions for what he's doing it's not his fault like you said he's taking advantage of the situation because there's no older lions to keep an eye on him😢😢😢 he is a beautiful young 🦁 lion👑🦁❤️🍄

[@ratulabdullah6798]

Plz Don't show this footage to tintswalo males😂, if they find out then It's his last day

[@williamryan9195]

It would not surprise me the Tinswalo males end up clashing with another coalition soon and end up getting pushed off their territory. Or end up getting killed or injured in a takeover attempt with another pride. They are not the strongest duo out there.

[@kylemisac2492]

Tintswalo males stick together they absolutely are a strong duo, there 7 1/2 in their prime.. stronger what you think they'd control the mibris pride over 2 1/2 hasn't been any other taken over there pride.. I don't even know what you been watching?

[@williamryan9195]

@@kylemisac2492 The 2 Mibri males have pushed them twice off their land or made them lay low without any confrontation and Mandevu was confronted by Red Road and dominated. When Labile was alive he was also being dominated by the other 2 so that doesn't look like a very unified coalition to me.

[@kylemisac2492]

@williamryan9195 false, absolutely you don't know what you're talking Mandevu and Ncila put beaten on Shaka about 2 months ago

[@kylemisac2492]

@williamryan9195 Shaka barely made it back to Nagle areas. You need know these things instead spreading misinformation. Why you think Shaka look in really bad shape about month ago

[@williamryan9195]

@@kylemisac2492 I saw the photos of the Mibris that they claimed were"in bad shape".I didn't see what they were talking about. No wounds only a little thin which is normal for male lions. There was no information from any of the camps about confrontation between the two. No wounds or damage from fighting or otherwise.