How Much Is a White Oak Worth? - Timber Harvest For Wildlife

[@mondavou9408]

I love learning from folks who have been around a minute or two, and give you straight answers to straight questions. Thanks for sharing the video and knowledge.

[@chaddobson7056]

Dangerous and hard work

[@DavidBrewer-ro1rq]

I worked in a local sawmill in Keokuk Iowa for 5 years. Stacked lots of lumber, operating trim saw, edger training for sawyer. Learnt lumber grading, log grading , loader operation, debarking. Loved the work, got divorced and moved south for several years, never got back into the business. We cut lots of white and red oak, hickory, maple, cottonwood, sysycamore, walnut. We had a steambath for the walnut and dry kilns, fan sheds, air dry.

[@throughmylens5127]

Never knew there was so much to sawing up lumber until I was watching Tips from a Shipwright channel Lou was digging through a naval timber yard looking for the perfect logs and slabs.

[@Salty_TaterTodd]

Hell Yea I live south of Des Moines 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 soo much tree variety in Iowa 💚

[@annaolson6386]

Can you explain the steam bath for walnut? I have a walnut that fell on my property so I bought a chainsaw mill to make boards out of it.

[@halohalo2498]

​@Salty_TaterTodd I live north of north pole but so far south the sun never goes down but I can see mars

[@air1514]

​@@annaolson6386keep the wood from drying out so quick.

[@mccarthysoutdoorsandgunclu446]

Fantastic vid. Extremely informative. No non-sense, straight to the subject matter. Thank you for sharing.

[@jasonhaga5412]

Great episode! Love the basic no-nonsense explanation and actual price for a log.

[@ManagementAdvantage]

Thanks for watching!

[@capitalismftw4757]

That little for a log? That seems low I'm not an expert though.

[@capitalismftw4757]

I was just thinking that the price per board foot retail is close to 1$ even for lower quality oak. Does the milling drying and transport process really add 99% of the value to the timber? If I get offered that little for my oak I would just buy a sawmill for 30k and mill up my own wood. Even if I just sell quarter sawn I'm sure I could sell a tree that size for more than $1.50

[@integr8er66]

​​@@capitalismftw4757No, lower grade hardwood, that will probably go for pallet wood or ties is selling for 49 cents per bd ft. my stave logs (Whiskey barrel logs) sell for $2.50 a bd ft. As for milling your own, I have a mill, but oak warps a lot, and you need a kiln, and yes, the millwork planing and sanding etc really adds a lot of work and turns a lot of wood into sawdust.

[@billthompson6182]

He said a buck fifty not 1.50

[@johnkoval1898]

White oak is what gives whiskey its color and flavor. When he said the second log would go into staves he was talking about whiskey barrel staves.

[@davidkresl2195]

I was in mark twain national forest and talked to several rangers. They were all proud of the white oak managed forests. The main buyer. Barrel makers.

[@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953]

Thanks!

[@D1g1tal_H1ppy]

thanks!

[@johnferguson40]

In my Scotland the inside of whisky barrels are burned. Thats what gives whisky it's colour.

[@johnkoval1898]

@@johnferguson40 That is done here sometimes also which is necessary for whiskey to be classified as Kentucky Bourbon. However the color and flavor is from the tannins in the oak. By the way many Scottish distillers buy used barrels from US distillers for aging Scotch Whisky.

[@janofb]

White oak was used to build ships because it doesn't wick water like a straw as red oak does. Learned that from the rebuilding of the Tally Ho on the Sampson Boat company where Leo went to the south to get White oak for his work. Check it out.

[@RB-bj9ms]

Are you referring to the Tally Ho in New Orleans?

[@janofb]

@@RB-bj9ms Nope. He's rebuilding the 1910 cutter Tally Ho at port Townsend WA. Great channel - Sampson Boat Co.

[@crzy11000]

@janofb it was not white oak he went to the south for it was Live Oak 2 different species.episode 19

[@janofb]

@@crzy11000 You are correct. He went to the south for Live Oak. He went to Connecticut (ep63) for White oak for the deck beams.

[@johnathanlivingstonseagull5524]

Fuckin aye. My canoe is called the tally ho as well. And I love learning about wood. Thank you.

[@WilliamLass-n4v]

While I cannot disagree with some comments regarding the honesty of some loggers ,I know from personal experience that there are good honest contractors out there. Do your research and hire a reputable consultant forester to mark the sale and administer the sale. They work for you to ensure fair payment and quality work

[@sacks7544]

Not sure why YT sent me here, but it was quite interesting, thanks

[@kfiscal01]

We had an old plantation farm logged with a bunch of really old tall black walnut trees. A German firm bought them all standing. They came in themselves and harvested them to ship to Germany to be used for clocks. They paid top dollar.

[@bluesky6985]

Several years back in Elkhart Ill a lady passed and heirs sold her farm. The auctioneer discovered 20 acres of black walnut. The farm sold for 175000 and the black walnut sold for 475000

[@nzs316]

@@bluesky6985 The bad part is that once the forest is cut down it’ll take 100 years to replace it.

[@bluesky6985]

@@nzs316 They built houses on the farm

[@nzs316]

@@bluesky6985 you missed the point. It’s a tree farm. The crop is or are the trees.

[@kbkesq]

@@nzs316you said they discovered it after she died. It was a tree farm. They just came in raped the land and now its stumps and weeds.

[@chaddobson7056]

Respect to all loggers and anyone pulling lumber!

[@IronMike-f8i]

They are CROOKED😮😮😢😢

[@mgbill793]

​@IronMike-f8i Some might be Crooked but not. I run a sawmill and I only get 1.00bf for my fas lumber. Goes down from there.

[@LivingWaterEternal]

I never knew this very cool. If I had a white oak forest I would let you have at and turn into my house and plant another white oak grove for the next owner in 100 years.

[@qsurface3799]

I’ve known the Patrick family my whole life they’re great people!!

[@ManagementAdvantage]

Yes they are!

[@paullabovitz6702]

The deduction for defect and then paying a premium for “character wood” always gives me a chuckle. Those are nice logs. Having a forester help with your sale will get the owner more and have a better overall experience. Selling to the sawmill direct usually benefits the mill.

[@air1514]

Your very uniformed. The only way a forester gets the landowner more money is if somebody is crooked in the deal. Otherwise the Forester takes 15 percent from the landowner and sells the logs to the same mills that a logger would have. Most times, a Forester is just another hand in the pie taking a slice .

[@paullabovitz6702]

Not the ethical foresters I’ve worked with for decades. Sorry your experience was different.

[@scotsmanofnewengland7713]

Driving up Interstate 1-91 in Vermont I noticed quite a few log haulers out Canada 🇨🇦 hauling oak tree and this has been going on for years. After talking to a Canadian truck driver at a rest stop he told me a lot of the oak comes out of Connecticut and the wood is mostly used for furniture.

[@markbarber7839]

Thanks for the video. Short, concise, well done.

[@CHAZZ-i5k]

WOW . VERY FASCINATING AND EDUCATIONAL. 👏 THANKS. 👍

[@samuelestepp725]

I’m from Mingo county WV and when I was a kid my dad showed me where the Mingo oak was. It’s the largest white oak on record

[@righttobeararmsetc.8492]

One past thing make sure you understand the saw yards and what they buy and use trees for this can change the price some yard will only pay you fourty cents a board foot for anything you bring in and some will buy special trees and pay alot more knowledge is the keys to getting paid more money short your timber out for your best payday man i loved timber i did it for over twenty years and i do miss it so much

[@99suspects]

I tell you right now, a tree is worth al hell of a lot more than money

[@99suspects]

@alwilliams3275 a tree is always worth a tree. Money gets less valuable ever day

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

So many idiots cutting em down, its so upsetting.

[@jim.carvey3406]

May I ask what that might be ?

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

@@jim.carvey3406 if you have to ask, you dont get it.

[@blaze553]

​@@jim.carvey3406Imagine sitting in 50 acres of forest. Now imagine sitting in 50 acres of open field. Personally, id rather be in the forest.

[@roberteicke2540]

Northern Indiana: We cleared 2 acres of old growth white & red oak with hickory & walnut in lesser amounts. I had difficulty finding someone to take the logs.

[@alanscott8719]

Call Clayton Morgan he lives at Wallace, In.

[@markporter2642]

After my house was built I went to the local lumber supplier and bought 12 planks of 2" thick White Oak. I built an 8ft dining room table and bench out of it that will be our forever table.

[@DavidHickenbottom]

Im thinking heavy. It must be beautiful

[@mountainmanmike8383]

White oak is crazy right now. Especially on the finished end of the product. My son needed hand rails in his house and the previous owner had a white oak stair case. I measured it all out and red oak priced out at $3,500, hickory was $4,200 and white oak was $8,900. It was ridiculous difference. That’s wholesale on the handrails.

[@ManagementAdvantage]

WOW!

[@integr8er66]

Its the whiskey barrel market that is driving the cost of white oak. I'm logging about 50 acres now, but still those logs, and not all white oak logs will be accepted, sell for $2.50 a bd ft.

[@Filkersons]

That’s insane. I’m over in the uk it wouldn’t cost anywhere near that with French oak.

[@GloriousSong24]

Very slow growing. They ain't making more of it. It can't grow in the wild in the Northeast anymore with out human monitoring.

[@dcl97]

A lot of the demand is coming from the residential finishes market. 5 years ago walnut was all the rage and no one wanted oak anything. We were selling good oak for firewood because you couldn't give the stuff away. Now all the high end interior designers spec white oak for everything and walnut has dropped quite a bit. Still pricey, but nice big white oak is what brings the top money now.

[@joelwinter4956]

Great insights--I learned something today, thanks to you!

[@MartinGandy-k1t]

That is amazing to hear about oak trees dude

[@wimpy6090]

Wow. A buck 25/board foot to the tree owner- current market price where I work as a bench carpenter $6-10 range/board foot for clear white oak… seems the tree owner ought to get a bigger share of that. Takes a looonnnngggg time to grow trees, and a very short time to cut them up into lumber.

[@BornIn1500]

But it only takes a little money, or no money at all, to grow them. But a llllllooooooooootttttt of money to cut them and transport them.

[@BoldWittyName]

So 1/5th to 1/8th the retail cost is the wholesale price of the raw material. That seems about right to me.

[@air1514]

Actually the landowner wouldn't get that amount. That's the total paid by the mill buying it. The logger gets some of that money as well.

[@air1514]

​@@BoldWittyNamethe middle men are who make all the money in timber. Kinda like everything else

[@patriciagray5157]

Agree, people with trees should get a tax deduction for keeping forest trees for environmental reasons. As so many property are cleared for $$$ and no woods are standing.

[@warrenthunell2557]

Not every plot of land has veneer quality logs even the soil it grows in can effect it like iron in New Jersey in the tri state area an iron nail can ruin a log so many factors. I’m wondering why you don’t just cut in the late fall and winter so as to not have problems with sap running ?

[@terrywarner8657]

One woodsman told me, never cut in a month without an R in the name.

[@ljprep6250]

Wow. I'd never seen white oak standing before. There seems to be 30+ feet of straight trunk before limbs branch out. Gorgeous. I love the look of fumed, quartersawn white oak. It brings out the medullary rays (figure).

[@holland3g1]

Great information! About to have some ash taken out as it all dies off, and nice to see how things should look!

[@GloriousSong24]

Emerald Ash Borer, another "gift" of globalization.

[@gojoe36]

I learned more in this video than all 100 lumber videos combined. If you don't understand the basics you will never mill right for the proper outcome

[@JW007100]

I built a beautiful computer desk from quarter sawn white oak. With some research I discovered that ammonia will fume the wood to a mellow light to dark color depending on the grain. I used 40% ammonia which is quite powerful and wearing a respirator outdoors I built a frame covered in plastic to place the desk and the drawers taken out next to it inside. Basically a tent but box like. I took cheap cereal size bowls and carefully poured the ammonia in each bowl (4-6) and slid them around the desk on the ground. Then let it sit for 24 hrs and then take the bowls and pour any remainder back into the gallon jug. Place the bowls in a bucket of water and never use them for eating from afterwards so use cheap bowls not foam but ceramic is best. Ventilate the tent, and your wood is finished with a beautiful acorn like brown color, then you can apply your finish coats. Before tenting you need to sand and remove any marks and glue squeeze out especially. Once all clean and sanded , place your project in the tent for fuming. 1. Your ammonia at 40% is highly irritating if it leaks so double bag it in plastic and secure in a container (bucket) that is out of the way and safe. 2. In the 1920s Gustav Stickley came out with his line of mission style furniture and changed the furniture style business. Read up on Mission style furniture and Gustav Stickley. 3.There are finishes out there that replicate a mission style finish but they have a redder appearance nothing like fuming with ammonia which once done takes a whole step out of the process because the fuming is doing the work for you.

[@jaymass1178]

Ill never log out our woods again. For the amount of money vs the amount of damages done didnt make it worth it. Tops just pushed in piles, small trees snapped off, huge ruts threw the fields and woods. They came back twice to try and fix the ruts, ultimately had to fix them myself. Not saying all logging companies are like that, just my experience. And it was from a DNR suggested outfit.

[@jimedwards13]

Did you work with a hire a forester? Their fee is usually worth the expertise, oversight, and if you need it, witness in legal disputes. I'm convinced the overall yield was better having hired him. The forestry plan that they put together with the landowners goals assures that the logger does what he says he's going to do. I was worried about scarring up the land and all the things you mentioned. I had my 60 acres selective cut three years ago and you can hardly tell they were there.

[@jeffreyhenderson4560]

Every landowner should visit the job every one of the bidders are on before awarding a contract. If they’re not working there’s a reason. Then you select a bidder based on the overall quality of work and the amount bid. After 40 years as a logger I can assure you, a quality job costs more per board foot to perform than a poor job with no regard for damage to the residual stand and the ground being worked.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

I've witnessed operations like that first hand and just about every one of them that have large skidders and harvesters do exactly that. They are in and out quick with heavy machinery that marks the land and leaves disaster zones.

[@jaymass1178]

@@easternyellowjacket276 We'll never log it out again.

[@air1514]

Try making a living only being able to work in prime conditions. If they left ruts, I'm sure it wasn't intentional. The ground was to wet. Loggers can't just work 4 mo a year .

[@A3Kr0n]

I had a friend who was offered $8000/tree back in the 1980s, but they were black walnut and he didn't sell.

[@barrystansbury3724]

I was told to plant Paulownia trees in 1986. So I did with visions of hundreds thousands of dollars for my retirement. At that time thieves would cut down the Paulownias to taken to a saw mill. One prize tree was rolled down the hill to the Susquehanna and floated to a waiting boat. The value came from the Japanese market who I was told by the State DNR the wood was to be made into, amongst other things, wedding hope chests and music boxes. Good thing I continued to work for the next forty years!

[@richardhessert7862]

Worth more to me as fire wood. My place was timbered in 1996 up to 15 inches at breast height. Lost to many other trees so to me fire wood makes more sense

[@davidvines6498]

In my area, White Oak is worth a pretty penny due to Jack Daniels using White Oak for it’s whiskey barrels

[@HypocriticYT]

Most costs are processing. What are yard wide white pines worth? I’ve got lots of them. Selling the land so might as well make a bit more from the trees.

[@ForeverContrarian]

Great info ! I own a very old oak stand and this convinces me that not harvesting anything, is the only choice!

[@MarkJLarsonOutdoors]

That was so informational! Thank you for sharing my friend!

[@ManagementAdvantage]

Thanks for watching!

[@Wildman-zh8lg]

What a big rip off

[@HypocriticYT]

I cut a barn beam that has over 300 rings, over 300 years old. After it was shortened splitting began. Wish I knew then about S rings. However it was just for a fireplace mantle

[@richardcolligan3821]

Wow, excellent video!

[@fredflintstone6163]

3:12 man can print money but only God can make a tree 🌴 i love my homestead Forrest

[@kaptainkaos1202]

One of the times the KZbin algorithm is great. I’m a flight test engineer for the military so I have no need for any of the information in the video but just in case..

[@terriedwards683]

Does anyone know current market rate for post oak. Low to high. Ty

[@garbo8962]

A smart coworker purchased land where he had to build maybe a 25' long bridge to get over a small creek. He had several old oak trees that had to be cut down for his 1100' driveway. A company came out and forget how many mostly Oak trees they cut down but rather then buy them they milled 3 by 10" Oak beams to cross over the steel beams he had installed and traded that for left over Oak wood.

[@thefreedomwarrior]

Put up trail cams and document every truck load going out and count every log on the trucks. Loggers (especially east of the Mississippi) are not known for their honest behavior.

[@ManagementAdvantage]

Not with this guy.

[@jeremyrude6883]

I've not seen or heard of 1 honest log company.

[@wcswood]

Biggest logger in my county(VT) just got busted playing with the scales and stealing veneer logs. Had to pay fines and resitution to 100 different clients. They have like 20 trucks.

[@zachlafond2652]

It was no different in the 80s and 90s. I remember when we bought some land in the early 90s the logger was a crook.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Shit its everywhere....Ya gotta take bids and watch every moves. Horror stories from Missouri.

[@JKinder313]

I work in plywood. Makes sense veneer grade timber comes from the bottom of the tree. We dry 1.2 million board foot of veneer over 24hr period. Guess that translates to about 2,400 of these size trees. Impressive.

[@groverstreet7128]

A white oak is priceless to me, deer sure do love a white acorn lol

[@MichaelLyons-h4i]

I had a small excavating company back in the late 1980s in Western Massachusetts the Berkshires. I remember a job where I got $4,000 for three 20 ft' Oak stump logs. Probably veneer oak logs that's why I got that money. But I made my real money on my excavating job. And a bonus was the firewood and the milleable lumber. This was back in the day where a man could make a dollar. Now it's incredibly hard to make that dollar it cost you more money to own a company than it is worth to some folks which is absolutely despicable! That's what we call it an end of an era... 🤷 Let's make America Great Again! 🇺🇲💪

[@MichaelLyons-h4i]

PS: Trump won 🇺🇸💪

[@bteamshorts]

Oak wasn’t bringing good money last year when I select cut my place. The real money was in walnut and maple.

[@air1514]

Walnut is always where the money is. White oak pays pretty good but red oak pin oak and all the others don't pay good

[@Orville-sw1cg]

Well explained! How much will the land owner put in his pocket after the sale of that particular log you described.

[@TheAcenightcreeper]

Ive got 38 acres of mature white oaks and hickories…had a timber cruiser say i have dozens of veneer quality white oaks….ive thinned everything else out besides oaks and select hickories…

[@diy7594]

I ran landing for alot of years started with prentice 210 ended up with a jd like yours what a machine but man no healing rack

[@NealZ31]

Residential tree guy here; homeowner please don’t think your tree near your home you need trimmed or removed because they are hazardous or too close are this valuable. It takes a lot of equipment and manpower to remove a single tree especially in tight spaces. These guys also have millions of dollars worth of equipment to pay for that makes movement of this sized wood possible.

[@justing6594]

This is exactly what I was thinking. Here we go! Can't wait to see the don't low ball me adds all over the internet with trees now.

[@NealZ31]

@@justing6594 haha exactly

[@NealZ31]

@@kkjppt5359 haha well in that case you have a deal

[@hippyhebrewhomestead8593]

Very nice information, I’ll process my own lumber at that price

[@Ivan-pl2it]

White oak surrounds our home, ice storm took out 1/2 of them a few years back. Been burning them but not my favorite firewood, dirty bark, smoke acidic and a half cord of ash per cord burned.

[@jamesgeorge4874]

When I built in 2001, I cut 4 white, and 3 red oaks that were between 120, and 150 years old, about 28" to 30" in diameter, over 75 feet tall, that someone said they would give me $1200 for all of them. After 18 months it was split and stacked, and kept my house warm, It was a shame, as I would like to have seen it be put to better use..

[@phaedrussmith1949]

It’s too bad that the moment it goes into the marketplace it becomes disposable. I was at the landfill last week and there was a man throwing away a pickup load of beautiful oak trim from a remodel project.

[@johannesswillery7855]

Man I have salvaged some lumber from rehab projects. It is incredibly time consuming and difficult to do. Typically there are square nails and stains around the nail holes. Just hard to make it worthwhile.

[@mtadams2009]

This is the reason no one will ever log my land. I enjoy my forest to much to have it ripped up for next to nothing. I have a forest of hardwood and I guess the animals and I will enjoy them until I die. I am looking into leaving it in a land trust. I live in New England and I understand the economics of this process but it’s just not worth it to me. Everyone I know that has looked into having their land logged has said the same thing, it’s just not worth it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

Good for you. Put it into good land trust and let the trees grow. It is extremely rare to see old growth in New England. One day it could be a tourist attraction and make money because some people would love to see old growth trees.

[@abav811]

You’re my hero.

[@bakadeshi_aunstudios]

That's why I use my own logs for my own lumber. Not worth selling it, but at least I no longer have to buy it either, and I can say I cut down and milled the lumber for everything I make out of it myself.

[@stevecolombe4446]

As a landowner that is in a forest management program, I agree 100% that there is little money in a timber sale. I am a hunter and know that you do need a balance of older trees for acorns and clear-cuts for regeneration. The clear-cuts become wildlife magnets that supply cover and browse which is a deer's major source of food.

[@PeonSanders911]

We harvested 50 acres, and got on average $3000 per acre. We rented a dozer after and removed all stumps, and replanted them to mostly oak. My children, when they are my age, now can double or even triple the $$, and it's in a part of our land we never go. We even did 3 acres in Christmas trees we can sell in 7 years....

[@bka8851]

A white oak is worth everything to the deer and other animals that feed on its acorns every fall

[@jordan.couch_wtp]

Great content as usual! I learned something today.

[@ManagementAdvantage]

Glad to hear Jordan! Thanks for watching!

[@capecodarbortech]

I own a tree company on cape cod Massachusetts. my self and all my competitor tree company’s which is a lot of tree companies all dump nice oak and pitch pine log lengths at local pit where it is all put in tub grinders and turned into mulch .. it does kill me seeing all this nice wood turned to mulch, but there isn’t a market here on cape cod . I know of 1 or 2 people with small sawmills .. I try to save as much as I can for firewood.. wish we could re purpose some of this nice wood .. any ideas ?!?

[@JamesJones-cx5pk]

Yes. I'm looking for a beautiful piece of 3'x16" walnut for my boat anchor pulpit.👍😮

[@jrs4ex]

I’m in CT and we have some forestry companies that sell shipping containers full of logs overseas. There’s thousands of flooring manufacturers in China. When I lived in Colorado ten years ago people paid $500 or more a cord for quality hardwood firewood.

[@fastst1]

@@JamesJones-cx5pk I have a small sized black walnut tree that keeled over and died, going to try and recover it.

[@fastst1]

Goodness, I have three trailers that I would be delighted to redeck in white oak, if you find yourself taking some down I could swing by with a trailer and some green, 20' logs would be ideal.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

Most of the trees on the Cape are stunted and of low quality.

[@JamesJeter-s7q]

It's worth a hell of a lot more then the value of the lumber that comes from it

[@travelinventor9422]

Sooooooo what is your house built of?

[@johnm2879]

Great overview.

[@davidschollenberger6871]

We had our woods logged off an they were after white oak red oak an ash the good logs went for Verneer

[@Bones6987]

At 1.25 per board foot at 550 board foot in that particular tree Is $687.50 for ONE LOG ??

[@davehughesfarm7983]

That whole tree.

[@SASmith-mg5pr]

You did not address how many years to grow these trees. Select harvest is how it used to be done. Ask how it is done today.

[@Jay-hu1pc]

Did you have any red oak cut. Just curious on what that brings per board ft to landowner compared to white.?

[@scottb6098]

I have the same exact question

[@bigd6761]

A couple months ago I cut some re oak logs myself and they paid $.55 a board ft at the local sawmill

[@craigwillenborg1831]

Red Oak is in the toilet. .55 cents straight through sounds about right.

[@ManMountainMetals]

A couple of stave mills around here. We got $600 for 2 white oaks, years ago.

[@stevecolombe4446]

I own a managed forest law property in Wisconsin. An MFL gives substantial property tax breaks. We manage it for wildlife. Timber harvests are extremely important to regenerate the resource. As a landowner that has had several harvests completed, I can say that the landowner doesn't make diddly on a timber harvest. We received $150 per cord for veneer which there was very little of. The rest was sold as pulp or firewood which we received $15 per cord. To sum it up, we aren't really into the management program to make money on the timber. We are in it to save on property taxes and to implement necessary practices that benefit wildlife.

[@juanarevalo5282]

thanks for the posting ❤️👍

[@mathew00]

Really cool video!

[@luapkirner5331]

Super informative

[@olskoolloggin9761]

Great vid guys!!👍🏻👍🏻💯

[@righttobeararmsetc.8492]

When i use to cut timper i would bring the actual receipt back with me and show the owners

[@richvanorden7026]

Did you say $1.25 - $1.50/tree to the property owner?

[@cc8751]

Per board foot

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Board foot and that tree was approx. 550-570 bd. ft.

[@JeremyB8419]

That's what I was thinking! Like the other guys said, he must have meant per board foot and just said it wrong, because that would be effing nuts.

[@pauldahlinger389]

It was not clear if he meant $1.25 to $1.50 per tree (which is what he actually said), or $1.25 to $1.50 per board foot (which is what I think he meant to say, but didn’t). It’s a shame that he didn’t take care in what he said, because the whole point was to determine what the entire tree is worth.

[@DannyBowen25]

@@pauldahlinger389 I think it was understood.

[@michaelmixon2479]

Super interesting!

[@mikenicholas6921]

Never trust a timber buyer

[@Logstalker33]

Never trust someone that doesn't trust anyone or says that a whole group of people are crooks. Yes there are crooked timber buyers but there are honest ones too.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Take the high bid from 3 or 4 of them. And watch that they dont rape your woods..

[@HyloWard]

Unless you are one 💕👽

[@JamesJones-cx5pk]

So how much for the tree?

[@stephenkennedy9322]

Buyer 🤔 💭 Well not much ! Cost of labor won't even cover what tree is worth in firewood. If you pay us $3,500 we could remove it 🌳 for you !

[@Dave-hc6pp]

When the Japanese and Germans buy logs the almost exclusively buy veneer logs. Some buyers will have a veneer mill and a sawmill setup on the ship. By the time they get to their respective countries they’ve processed all the logs. I had a tractor and log trailer with a knuckle boom loader back in the 80’s. One time the German buyer hired me to sit on my loader and unload trucks and load the logs into gondola cars on the trail. I had 36 cars loaded with white oak headed for the port of Baltimore to be loaded onto ships. It’s a rough business to make any money.

[@CAB75]

From a loggers standpoint if you shop around and make the buyers bid you can get $5 to $6 a board foot out of the veneer. The second and third cut if it has any quality at all has been averaging $3.30 a board foot. Hickory need to be cut in the winter. There’s a market in Italy and they average $2.00 a foot but you need to find a good exporter and give the land owner 1/2 of all the grade price. 1/3 on the pallet logs or it’s not worth messing with. Walnut has cooled down a little bit and is bringing about $2.60 a board foot. Red oak has come back to $0.70 a foot for tie logs. Not really worth the trouble. Be honest and you will have moor work than you can handle

[@jimthomas1989]

In 1992 I cut Black Walnut , Hickory, Red Cedar and some Oak , Hauled it to the saw mill myself , had it cut to my Specifications , loaded up the boards and beams and brought them home , I still have some of each along with Cherry , Maple , and a few other woods and I have made so many items I couldn't even begin to count , I didn't even have $25 in everything . I would never sell to a logging company , but I have a Woodshop !

[@dogguy7705]

Very good video

[@ManagementAdvantage]

Thanks!

[@andrewbeebe8470]

How do you remove the iron S before sawing?

[@mikewalker2080]

Thank you.

[@taylormach1699]

Loggers ROB OLD FOLKS. BELIEVE IT.

[@righttobeararmsetc.8492]

Fast example walnut whiteoak redoak maple hard soft depends on variety of trees all this stuff can change a price per semi load

[@briantownsend5124]

I love how the logger down plays all of it, like there’s no money in it, low grade flooring, gonna be used for stays on a truck bed, stuff like that. His stuttering and saying “ah” a lot tells me he’s not giving the whole story…

[@air1514]

Cuz he doesn't want to make everyone think that is what they will get for their trees. The trees in the video are exceptional trees. The majority of trees aren't that nice

[@kevinshort5468]

Staves. The second part of the trunk is second in value to the first.

[@twinheatingairconditioning135]

Very interesting

[@Andrew-sanders]

Oak don't bring any where near that here in Oklahoma. 30 cents a bf is closer to right. Worth more as fire wood than saw logs

[@ManagementAdvantage]

That's wild. Wouldn't have guessed there would be such a difference.

[@Andrew-sanders]

@@ManagementAdvantage most oak here goes to pallets. Walnut is as bad since no mills want have to ship to Arkansas or Texas. Really good red oak might get you 75 cents. Red cedar is king here. You can sell every tree ina stand as long as tall and straight. Even the little one 2 inches at 5 foot brings 2.00 as fast as you can cut them

[@dominicd7610]

Where do you sell the cedars in Oklahoma at?

[@ujmrider]

I know an Amish guy that owns a sawmill in my town. He is a millionaire. The guys cutting the trees, and driving the skidders and log trucks are not.

[@rickyrishel8198]

Holmes County Ohio here. I know what you mean. I drove cutters to the woods for many years

[@billywalker9223]

We have a lot of white oaks from 5' to over 7' in diameter. Some red oaks are nearly 7'. Virginia Tech is going to send some people to measure and record them.

[@robertbolding4182]

Why

[@billywalker9223]

@@robertbolding4182 Because red oaks don't normally live that long.

[@chefgiovanni]

Cool video. Tree management is essential to build and grow a strong America. Hopefully all the trees and lumber is replaced with new trees in the same areas. I am also a walking computer of food and cooking. Follow the chefs and gain skills.

[@terrynorthern38]

We have a 5 foot diameter with forty feet straight up need to be cut power line coming thru

[@Koopyjukes]

Is that $1.50 per board foot? or 1.50 per tree?

[@brucejedwabny3473]

Per board ft, so he said that one big tree had 550-575 board ft, 1.50x550= purchase price.

[@Koopyjukes]

@@brucejedwabny3473 got it, that makes a heck of a lot more sense

[@Wildman-zh8lg]

Think

[@terriedwards683]

What is high n low for post oak in south mo area

[@daltondickens1848]

A buck fifty for a tree is crazy, especially for a land owner. Loggers get screwed, same as landowners.

[@dannycorsaro546]

I want to know how much the logging company will give me for a white or red oak.

[@Trash-Castle]

I got ripped off then I bought a sawmill and now I do the ripping. Not off just ripping boards and building my home.

[@donaldhudson2235]

What most every one does not know the southeast is cutting hard wood trees out every day. But they don't replant hard wood trees. Hard wood trees are more Valuable, then cash money. A lot of wildlife species are dined out, because of this fact. O I know because I used to Drive a log truck. 😮😮😮😮

[@robertrobert7924]

I live in a residential neighborhood in Baltimore County, MD. We have lost hundreds of 100+ yro White Oaks in the past ten years. As far as I know the wood has only been used as firewood. Seems like such a shame it could not have been used for building things out of.

[@ref6122]

Seller: this is the greatest log in the world ! Buyer : I'll take it off your hand as a favor,not great.

[@patricklacasse2877]

Where are you located?

[@ManagementAdvantage]

This was in Indiana.

[@donaldbeard6231]

Believe me when you work in the logging business you are making a honest dollar and it's one of the most dangerous jobs ever. I know first hand because I worked for 5 years in the business. And you are gonna get injured no doubt.