Managing Expectations In Learning and Projects

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Thought I'd make a video about managing expectations when learning things, creating projects and whatnot.
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[@Livakivi]

The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/livakivi08211 Hopefully the video was helpful! And yeah, for anyone who missed it, the video about everything I'm using to learn Japanese that I made on my second channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZK5eaWwe5hgaKc

[@bambam-qw4rg]

Thank you for your hard work! We as fans are always excited for your content!

[@musikalniyfanboichik]

you have to give em your credit card information ... ew

[@FilipP88]

LOL that was one of the best intros into an ad I've ever seen

[@SmartJapanHacks]

This is so hard for many people. Most of the people I started studying with just ended up quitting, because they didn't feel like they were progressing anymore and lost interest. That's why I think it's so important to enjoy the process. If you're having fun, then you won't mind as much he times it takes to become fluent. The good thing about learning Japanese is that there are so many cool things from Japan that you can learn from. So once you know enough Japanese to enjoy native level content, your chances of eventually becoming fluent will go up.

[@edmundironside9435]

I just want to let you know that you're one of those youtubers where I'll immediately stop what I'm doing when there's a new upload

[@shannonramirezslater4909]

I literally feel the same. I was doing some random research on oxalates in vegetables, and then I saw he had a new upload and I'm like ok time to stop everything I'm doing

[@Narpil]

I really like how you can use Runescape to illustrate virtually anything, I started playing this game because of your videos Also, about the "3 000 hours rule": people mostly apply it to topics such as art, where there is no "Top level". I think that maybe the only reason why this number of 3 000 hours exists is that if the number was higher, it would demotivate people from even trying. Like, maybe after 200,000 hours of drawing you come to a point where every single line you draw is enough to make a grown man cry, but it's impossible for a human to actually invest this much time in something (about 10 hours a day for over 50 years, so not completely _impossible_ but you get the picture) and so we'll never know if this is actually the threshold after which you actually master drawing. So yeah, maybe 3000 hours is just an arbitrary number that fits with human limits

[@danielzacho4058]

I like how everytime I get demotivated about learing spanish I somehow always come back to your videos and get a reminder that it is just part of the process. Thank you for the helping words my man keep it up

[@alexjustalexyt1144]

I hope you're still learning. Keep up the work man

[@furasuko]

Maybe this is something you aren't realizing, because of your focus on other projects, but your english has improved a lot between your first videos and now. Maybe you joke about your accent, but your articulation and word usage is very good and makes you sound intelligent (which i think you genuinely are, but it's difficult to convey that in a foreign language).

[@Livakivi]

Thanks a ton! And yeah, accent-wise there is quite a noticeable difference between the first video and the latest videos. When I started the first video, I hadn't really done any proper spoken English output in a very long time, and recording these videos has definitely been a good practice.

[@Boss_Scaggz]

"Hands are the N1 of drawing" LOL I tried to share this joke with a couple of other people who draw and no one got it till after paragraph of explanation. I guess this joke was made just for me...

[@Croc]

Not properly managing my expectation is exactly why I quit studying my first language, Russian. I kept watching videos saying that it would take 9-12 months to learn Russian, and so I felt really encouraged to keep pushing. I think I would immerse for around and hour or two a day at school because I had a lot of down time at school. But when I got to 9 months, I plateaued hard. A month later, with me no longer seeing any progress in immersion even though I was still immersing all the same, I gradually stopped spending time learning the language and have basically quit it now. Haven't really gotten back into it since. I have now started to pick up Spanish, which is a much simpler language, but this time I am going to set my expectation to be more like 3 years instead of 9 months. If I had prepared myself better for the plateau, perhaps I would have been still learning Russian today. I love your videos by the way, the fact they show the hard hitting realities of language learning is sure to help many people who wish to follow your path. I personally haven't studied Japanese, but maybe someday.

[@scrapthemetal]

5:06 i needed that

[@jetesouhaitepleindebonheur]

I have waited for your video, thanks

[@isaweades]

I just had a craving for another livakivi video so this makes me very happy

[@glob567]

thank you Livakivi for your various videos on learning things, very useful advice:)

[@user-dm2kp3vo2u]

I like your content so much. Thank you for uploading.

[@legacynn4540]

Man at this point im just jealous of how committed you are to learning lmao

[@CaptainAjamier]

Tuesday just got even better!

[@N0LuCk1993]

Yo our boy got a skillshare sponsorship! Congrats dude I'm feeling particularly demotivated to learn Japanese today so this video is well-timed to get me back to the grindstone.

[@shannonramirezslater4909]

Just wanna say I appreciate the high quality and level of editing in these videos. It's very obvious that you put a lot of time into them. These videos are so well done bro. Thanks for another great upload.

[@MrsKoldun]

FINALLY! The algorithm finally showed me a video of yours on the day it was published. ☺️

[@Ab-cj6gl]

The programming analogy is so on spot The little things you work on at the end of the project is the hardest part lol it gets really challenging once you reach a certain level in a programming project

[@sarujay1533]

you are so underrated it’s criminal

[@cyril3248]

At some point I thought I wasn't making much progress. Then I found notes I wrote a long time before and noticed a few mistakes, that helped me being motivated and going on

[@aservant1284]

That was a smooth transition to the ad lol

[@TainoMoya]

4:03 *S H U C K S* Looking forward to the drawing videos

[@chao3948]

why and how is your editing so good and funny

[@Aquwus]

Watching you videos makes me feel good After them, my mind goes full focus to learning Japanese lol

[@logui113]

New video let's gooo

[@tafellappen8551]

Bold of you to assume i expect a video without an ad

[@gabrielperretta629]

I can attest to feeling frustrated, demotivated, and wanting to jump off a cliff. not even 100 days into learning Japanese and I've already felt like quitting. I would fall into lulls where I just couldn't remember any vocabulary and I felt like I was going backwards. The phrase "It's a marathon, not a sprint" kept me going. I don't have to learn the language the fastest, but I do want to learn the language. Little by little, step by step, ten new words a day and eventually... I'll get there. Thanks for helping me get started and keeping me going. Much love Update: Feeling it right now. had to reset 6 of my 12 mature cards today

[@Livakivi]

100 days is still quite early, that's where it starts to get hard, as progress slows down, cards start stacking up, and the routine is kind of there yet but not really. Keep going! I used to feel bad about resetting my mature cards, but honestly don't. Especially when you're so early into learning, resetting cards part of the learning process, its not like you're losing progress when you do that in reality. I've reset hundreds of cards that have more than a year long interval, but its fine as it usually gets easier every time for that specific card.

[@thechugg4372]

I'm at the beginner stage where I should be making progress and still feeling like i'm not progressing tbh.

[@Livakivi]

People feel progress subjectively after all

[@FerWasTaken]

I’ve been tryna get into art so hopefully this helps.

[@RayZin]

1:09 man….

[@JPChowder]

Love your videos man, this one was very good Do you think you could write one about distractions like browsing social media, watching streaming/youtube, playing video games and the like? Some times i feel like droping everthing and some times i feel that doing so would isolate me, even though I know very well that most of these things aren't good for me

[@pawekoaczynski4505]

For KZbin, I use Unhook, a Chrome Extension which removes distractions, e.g. the home page redirects to subscriptions, no recommended videos on the right. You can adjust stuff in the settings

[@Livakivi]

@@pawekoaczynski4505 I actually block the sidebar/suggestions on youtube quite often. Not sure if its because of it being a distraction, but sometimes I just don't want to see the stuff trending on youtube that gets recommended lol.

[@Livakivi]

I might make a video on a similar topic like that one day, but its quite a tricky video to make as its related to quite a lot of things as well.

[@richardharvey7631]

just smiling the pain away :)

[@musikalniyfanboichik]

let's share, what are you guys trying to get better at? me personally - gamedesign and weightlifting. a weird mix. and almost forgot english.

[@Livakivi]

I actually do weightlifting as well to some extent, currently trying to rebuild to beat my old PRs.

[@pedskon]

Weightlifting, guitar and Japanese. I'll be free during september, since I'm switching jobs and there's a gap, so hopefully I will see some nice progress during that time

[@wango6603]

I have 0 expectations so i can't get disappointed

[@ScottHWMoo]

Awesome vid! I look forward to your vids as much as I do with other big youtubers. I've watched all of your vids but I can't remember. Did you do your Japanese study while working? Or was that full time study mixed with KZbin. I'm struggling to keep an hour a day study schedule with a 9-10 hour job.

[@Livakivi]

I started Japanese while I was working full time, and doing other stuff after work, yeah. The biggest thing for me was getting as much Anki done as possible during downtimes. - Right when I woke up and was too tired to get up - When I was eating - During bathroom breaks - When commuting/waiting for a bus or train etc - When walking (sometimes, as its kinda uncomfortable) - During any downtime where I had to wait and if I still didn't make it by that time, then I just did it during my "free time".

[@ScottHWMoo]

@@Livakivi I can really respect the grind. I suppose with Matt vs Japan he studied when he was a student so its hard to compare when you have more responsibilities as an adult. I'm pretty much slugging out sentence cards up to N3, the Kanji is killing me (more so the multiple pronunciations per character). - Do you have any tips for that? Or just brute force the hours in? - If you could go back in time and revise your study strategy, would you and what would you have done differently? Big kudos for being able to juggle so much of your responsibilities.

[@Livakivi]

@@ScottHWMoo I also brute forced kanji and stuff. But I maybe would have started sentence mining myself earlier - depending on how many new cards you take, its not that hard to mine like 5 to 10 cards per day for Anki. Can mine more in a single day to have some left over in other days as well of course, and if you have no time for sentence mining, can just take new cards from a premade deck during those days.

[@alexme6521]

nice

[@raudkuul]

Hell hea new vid

[@kellyholland2902]

How do u k ow that was exactly what I need 😳

[@user-qs4ef3zk2z]

New upload? Bought to click

[@aa898246]

how did u balance doing school/work and learning japanese

[@user-dm2kp3vo2u]

20 minutes a day can achieve great results. Can't you find 20 minutes in your 24 hours day? And of course, the more time you have, the quicker the results may be, but that doesn't mean that even 15 minutes isn't sufficient.

[@Livakivi]

I did it during downtimes, during commutes, bathroom breaks, when I had to wait for something, when taking a break, and during free time at night.

[@crazybigcock9350]

3:00

[@thealtrik3051]

Expect the unexpected Expect the *square hole*

[@FreezeMango-BlazeLychee]

Hi, I recently faced a problem when learning japanese. Whenever I get to a lesson, I always feel this hazy mist in my head, which really doesn't help in learning anything. It is almost like I don't feel anything while learning and cannot accept and hold the information that should go into the head. All of this really makes me question, whether or not I really want to learn the language Did something similar happen to you? If so, how did you break away from such stuff?

[@Livakivi]

I'm not sure what kind of lessons you use, in-person class ones? But well, it kind of sounds something like what I get every time I have even slightly bad sleep. Mind very cloudy and can't really focus on anything. On those occasions, Anki and active immersion with something relaxing or interesting works the best for me.

[@FreezeMango-BlazeLychee]

@@Livakivi Thanks for answering! I do lessons by myself with a study book. (maybe I should try out learning with a teacher, but that is a costly thing to do) I once tried a deck in Anki, didn't really do it for me. Then tried to one myself with vocabulary out of the book, one month was enough to make me abandon it. About relaxing immersion, would you recommend something to immerse in with hiragana? I heard that Pokémon games have it and Animal crossing has furigana, but what about books or other games that are sort of interesting?

[@Livakivi]

@@FreezeMango-BlazeLychee You can try looking for lets plays, dubbed games in your TL, and all that kind of stuff. Personally I find Anki the "easiest" to stay consistent with. Definitely tiresome and takes effort, but I feel like its the only thing I can do every day without exceptions - you can also try making your own cards from your immersion, eg sentences that you encountered in movies, games, and so on!

[@FreezeMango-BlazeLychee]

@@Livakivi thanks!

[@pedskon]

@@FreezeMango-BlazeLychee I use wanikani and Busuu. Doesn't cost a lot, and makes sure that you have consistent progress every day. I kinda hate anki cards, but I'll have to use them once I become good enough to dive into immersion. So far wanikani and busuu has been great though. My vocabulary grows at a steady pace, and I get a lot of grammar as well. Busuu doesn't have everything though, so I would recommend looking up Tae Kim's free lessons for the rest of the grammar

[@Syvies]

Learning a language or drawing is hard for me, too much of an expectation, too scared of the amount too learn, feeling like I lost time not doing anything towards it instead of wasting it doing other useless things... So yeah... I'm still here, haven't progressed, still complaining, because that's all my anxiety and blocks allow me to do...

[@Livakivi]

Even a little bit daily, 10 to 15 minutes even, makes up a lot over the long term

[@Syvies]

@@Livakivi I know... I'm just completely stuck, always complaining and wasting time... I can't start new stuff anymore...

[@Livakivi]

@@Syvies Do 15 minutes of drawing right now if you can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@M_SC]

It was difficult to find out the name of your other channel

[@Livakivi]

Forgot to include it to the description and add it as a card! Done now.

[@MyLittleMagneton]

The problem with the whole hours/day concept is that people tend to disregard diminishing returns. You need to sleep on what you've been studying for it to get put in long term memory. So I honestly think you'd learn more much studying for an hour per day for a year, than you would studying for 12 hours per day for a month.

[@bailobstrix]

How are thing going with learning Japanese ?

[@Livakivi]

Going pretty well. Going to probably make another update video on the second channel soon! And a bigger video in october or november.

[@user-og9nl5mt1b]

Hm he is learning japanese , I am also learning japanese. He is learning drawing. I am also learning drawing. HE IS MY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER 🤔

[@memekin955]

Yoo

[@memekin955]

Whatsup

[@kam571]

Yoo

[@kam571]

@@memekin955 shutup

[@doodleroar]

no offense, but I feel like this video kind of just boiled down to "don't take things personally and failure is okay", which isn't bad advice but it's really hard to take seriously when it's essentially the only advice you get. I have immense struggles when it comes to handling my emotions and taking criticism/being told i'm wrong, and this kind of advice really doesn't help. I understand it's useful for most people, and it's not wrong, it's just a bit broad and hard to apply without explicit directions and/or guidance that isn't just "do this". especially since there's never any extended help when the answer to "do this" is "i've done this and it does not help nor does it work in any capacity, do you have any other solutions" I realize i'm probably complaining about a very minor problem that's exclusive to me, and it's not your job to help people like me specifically at all, I just wanted to voice how I don't think the video was very informative beyond a very minor and vapid scope of people who can see advice like this for the umpteenth time and still find it very helpful and revolutionary (which admittedly seems to be the vast majority of the comment section, so take my words with a grain of salt I guess) your video was still pretty good on a production level and I could listen to your voice all day, it's just the actual content that didn't really help much.

[@Livakivi]

Its actually not just about accepting failure and taking things personally. Its about not being taken by surprise when things don't go the way you expected, and about trying to optimize your expectations of how long it takes to actually achieve something and the occasional hardships on the road right from the get-go. For example, the bit about starting projects, and then realizing how long and grindy it actually gets over time, is not about failure but realizing that its just the reality, and you have to stack up those hours. After the initial honeymoon with something new and exciting is over, it will become difficult, and when you realize and accept that, it helps to push through it more than trying to avoid or eliminate those negative emotions entirely.

[@bambam-qw4rg]

Man I wanted to be first comment

[@banan171]

Man, I wish I could edit as good as livakivi. If only there were some website to learn and if only there were some affiliate link or discount.. oh wait