Manchester - Bury 1982

This clip features Class 25 and class 45 locomotives on the Manchester Bury line along with Class 504's in rail blue and blue grey liveries. The poor quality of this clip is due not only to it's VHS source but also because it is a fourth generation copy. I hope the content makes up for the quality.

[@ewloe01]

That was brilliant! I well enjoyed that! All blue 504's and class 25's! Areal blast from the past!

[@johnhealy8513]

This a wonderful video recording aspects of the railway we will never see again.

[@v2factoryman]

Some priceless footage here, rare stock and track, particularly the 90 degree flat crossing at the former Knowsley St site. I'm a driver at the ELR these days and the changes have been dramatic. Thanks for sharing.

[@stephentansley9949]

Remember this well 😁

[@FrontCompVids]

Excellent footage!

[@Phil6219]

Very nice mate, it looks to different today. That final shot is almost unrecognisable now that the flat crossing has been replaced with the ELR overbridge.

[@Panarail]

The loco and brake van were en route to Bury TMD to take a class 504 set to Wolverton Works for attention. the van was needed for the rear of the unit. I think in many cases, you are right calling it a break van :o)

[@Panarail]

I did sell DVD's until around a year ago. I stopped when costs became prohibitive.

[@percomotion]

Blasts from the past sadly all changed now,brake vans being used and a inspection coach as well excellent film.

[@verybiggreensteameng]

I used to live next to the railway at 15 willow road as a boy I liked watching the peak class engines getting stuck near my house pulling long ballast trains

[@yeetyeet7663]

this video made me sad 😭 all of the nostalgia

[@LDEGM]

Nice video!:)

[@majorpygge-phartt2643]

Well I never! I never knew any diesel loco's visited Bury interchange.

[@2259Ben]

May I ask why the break van?

[@cristobalito1966]

Were they using Class 25s because the electrical supply had failed?

[@dodgydruid]

Being an SR sort of upbringing chap, would love to see how the third rail on this line differed to that of the normal 750dc stuff found elsewhere on BR, can't seem to find any pics of the shoe arrangement. I imagine that with the heavier current these were also quite spritely and energetic on the pullaway versus say a 2HAP. I only ever saw one and it was being moved in the 80's by a loco and just happened to spot it as I arrived into Manchester for a railway job interview, wasn't a very good day as ended up getting immediately lost, found myself in Moss Side and not daring to open my south London speaking mouth one bit hehe, didn't get the job either

[@nightw4tchman]

The shoes collected current from the top of the rail as with the southern region from what I remember. The voltage was 1200v DC though so that did differ to the southern region.

[@peterudbjorg]

1200 volts, yes. Top contact, no. Side contact, as found on the S-Bahn in Hamburg, Germany, still. Rail enclosed on three sides with (Jarrah) wood, side slot for spring-loaded contact shoe. 1200 volts does allow for some more "sprightyness", but I assume these still were wired for 750 volts, only run entirely in series somehow. I’m certain someone of the know can fill out on this. And it could simply be that these were only two-car trains, the 2HAP perhaps four-car with only one car pulling? Again, these are only guesses, but the construction of the third rail I have from a book I bought when the new system had just opened. :)

[@philipstokes2824]

Side contact only use of it in the UK each unit had a driving trailer and a driving by motor brake, one unit survives on the east lancs

[@roberthill6216]

@@philipstokes2824 2 did make it into preservation, but, 1 unit was subsequently scrapped.

[@gharwood1356]

@@peterudbjorg belated reply! They were actually designed as 1500v units derated to run at 1200v. All cabling etc. was to 1500v standard. I understand this was because 1500v equipment was a stock item at manufacturers.

[@2259Ben]

Brake van rather*