I messed up...Waves R-Bass | Take 2

[@ManchesterMusic]

Please note: this video was made prior to Waves announcing their all-in subscription plan. My thoughts however, remain pretty much the same: owning a license isn’t the same as owning the tool. You’re at the whims of the manufacturer…

[@georgepelekoudis]

Indeed. They might have to sweeten the offer with perpetual license surrenders in exchange for subscriptions. It’d be good if they would offer user-spec’d subscription bundles.

[@ELLIOT8209]

They'll find out soon enough that customers have a say

[@ruslanr.6171]

@@ELLIOT8209 well Adobe didn't go anywhere, only sub since 2013. but personally I would like see waves go out of business because of this.

[@ELLIOT8209]

@@ruslanr.6171 I'll gladly switch to Slate. Fvck Waves

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

@@ruslanr.6171 I switched to affinity back in 2013. Buy it once own it forever. Never paid for an Adobe product since.

[@davidasher22]

Considering Waves just committed business suicide, you should do a video where you show some of the best replacement plugins for specific Waves plugins that are popular. .

[@thenewreal]

I 2nd this. Specifically R-Bass.

[@ManchesterMusic]

I’m seriously considering it

[@gregsilver_official]

@@thenewreal Denise Audio Bass XL - they have also a sale atm. Great tool.

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

Yes please, RBass, MV2 and MaxxVolume. I use these in every mix 🙏🏾☺️

[@Bati_]

@@NoQualmsTheArtist Some possible alternatives: RBass - The bass enhancer in iZotope Ozone 10 Advanced MV2 - I don't know any alternative to this and for me this is the only presumably non-replacable plug-in on their catalog, FabFilter Pro-MB might be a potential candidate though MaxxVolume - Again, the maximizer of Ozone 10 Advanced

[@ceciliafbrown373]

Nice revision Mr Manchester. 'You own nothing and be happy'. That quote reminds me of what another organisation are saying...

[@MaisonLexBeatz]

Which one?

[@ceciliafbrown373]

@@MaisonLexBeatz Research the quote.

[@chocomalk]

@@MaisonLexBeatz World Economic Forum

[@georgepelekoudis]

Busy week ahead for Waves…

[@ernestbuckley8671]

Thanks for explaining how plug ins really work, so many people have no clue that you cannot own software, you simply rent it until you decide to no longer update ir or use it or the developer chooses to stop supporting it.

[@midifromhell]

"Why are you using such a terrible kick drum?" Fucking... it's a fine kick drum! Just happens to be a live one. Not some oversized already-processed edm library sample. Most of these people probably have never heard an actual kick drum before.

[@kennethneathery3963]

''You'll own nothing and be happy.''

[@baselinesweb]

I did the same as you, buying a bunch of Waves stuff at the beginning. I hardly ever use anything now except RBass, LinMB, Greg Wells and ReelADT.

[@TroubadourMusic]

RIP Waves. Hope they walk it back and give people an option.

[@DerekPower]

Interesting times indeed. First and foremost, nice job on the revision. This is an example of how to do something like that tastefully. No histrionics. =] Given what happened in the last 24 hours, I would suggest the following: 1) Give it another 24 hours for the emotions to settle down. 2) Assess and reassess what really matters and act accordingly. If you want to express grievances, make it clear as to what and why that is and avoid excessive emotions and other histrionics.

[@enrifretless]

No more Waves for me... And for what I saw in the "Important Message from Waves" email, they are allowing people that owns plugins to keep them, at least that is fare From their email "What about the plugins I already own? No worries. You continue to own your plugins, at the latest version you bought or to which you updated." Thanks for the R-Bass re-review!

[@ELLIOT8209]

Is that frequency slider going for that set frequency or everything below? Fundamental or just the sub region?

[@TheChameleonBand]

I'd very much like to see you do a video on the Sonnox Oxford Inflator. It seems to be pretty ubiquitous, and there's a lot of different opinions on the best way(s) to use it...

[@bloodswarms]

Now that they've gone subscription, it doesn't matter to me if their plugins are good or not. Especially after I've spent hundreds of dollars on plugins with them over the years and now I won't even be able to get update plans for what I've purchased.

[@jellybean7253]

I hear this a lot, but, I am not understanding. I have ALL (mostly all) of the Waves plugins and I just updated my bundles. No issues. What is everyone talking about. I have been out of the audio business since The Vid-19 but just opened a studio so would love to know what the issues are if you have the time. Thanks

[@ronnyskaar3737]

Now it made sence. Thanks for clearing it up. I thought it was me... 😂

[@johnhawkinshawkins1284]

When they advertised at $29, Waves should have made it clear that it might possibly last only for your present system level. To not state this specifically, is tantamount to miss-selling and I believe is fraud in some countries. That's why I got caught out in on a mixing session years ago when almost every Waves plug-in disappeared. And since then I never touch them. The likes of more hones companies, keep the newer versions available for free! So don't become over-dependent on Waves subscription, 'cos one day they'll ask for more money.....

[@inshal6420]

I understand charging for updates. They have to put work in to keeping it updated. I feel like its the same as finishing a mix for someone and then the artist coming back to you expecting a new version for Apple 3D audio thing for free. I don’t mind paying for updates but I hate subscription.

[@jellybean7253]

Yes. It's an ongoing business. I thought I was the only one that got that.

[@lun-xbeats7847]

nice video.. tracks don't need to be mono may be you pull a mono Rbass in to a Stereo track ....

[@jerryg7491]

Respect !

[@AuroraBPolaris]

I can't help but laugh, how ironic you go back and correct yourself on a Waves plugin, literally helping and promoting them, and then they pull a 180 out of the blue 😂. I guess it's time for another Waves video 👀

[@jimsanger]

Guess what the advert was for before the video started, the new subscription service. I don't think I've ever seen a worst reaction on Twitter than when they announced it. Although I wasn't on there when Trump got in

[@ManchesterMusic]

Dude it’s brutal. Just trying to correct my mistakes and then BAM.

[@tonyr.4778]

One thing I find interesting is that you are selecting the kick harmonics with different audible pitches, without any reference to what pitch you are accentuating and is it in the key of the song. I think this type of adjustment should be done at least while monitoring the bass to hear which harmonics work best with the bass.

[@Chandler17447]

EVERYBODY is mad at Waves right now (and forever) but honestly, their plugins are affordable, classic and if you want to be mad at a plugin company, I can't stand UA. Their customer service is ass, and you have to be connected to the internet to use their plugins unless you have an iLok dongle. Fuck that. If I'm mixing in a remote location without internet, you know what i can use without a sweat? Waves plugins.

[@davidwitte6466]

RIP

[@whome806]

Waves is trash izotope, blacksalt for rbass, native instruments for 1176, la2a, dbx160

[@johnhawkinshawkins1284]

Turn your mic on. please!

[@ManchesterMusic]

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