He tells his vict*m to "move on" | INSTANT REGRET! | Utah Parole Hearing

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[@lavenderlamp]

🤯 A rapist giving his victim life coaching is outrageous.

[@mynameiseve.1]

the audacity😱🤯

[@kevinb9830]

He was never actually charged with rape

[@carolbelyeu8748]

Right?! Geezus!

[@stacibayles2085]

What's even more disgusting is the number of people supporting a man who did this behavior daily for president.

[@jturtle5318]

​@@kevinb9830that's based on the victim's statement to the police. He put his penis in her vagina against her objections. That's rape, despite whatever the prosecutor did.

[@karenaubert8852]

Imagine the arrogance of a rapist trying to give life advice to his victim.

[@MyMelinaaa]

He was trying to say as the monster I want to help you heal and live life again....he just sucks at talking but that's obviously what he was trying to do.

[@Windchanter420]

​@MyMelinaaa and if he had any sense he would understand that is something he could never do. The best thing he can do for her is stay in prison so she knows where he is.

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

Unfortunately, rapists telling their victims to get over it or move on is pretty common.

[@RedNymph234]

​@@MyMelinaaano it's straight forward that the perpetrator is gaslighting and invalidating his victim. He wasn't "not good at talking". He has zero remorse and it's obvious

[@FP65]

@@MyMelinaaa- Oh please.

[@susanford1598]

How the hell does the victim even begin to heal when she’s taken back to the moment every few years…. She’s literally going to live the rest of her life in hell.

[@stvnsn]

Being up for parole in 10 months on a life sentence is insane!! The victim doesn’t even have time to even try to begin the healing process before having to relive the nightmare smh

[@moongoddess238]

You have to face it in order for you to start your healing process

[@uffda3937]

​@@moongoddess238 are you a psychologist or just someone who wants attention?

[@JesusLightsYourPath]

​@@moongoddess238 most people are not ready to relive the events after 10 months

[@wilsal2485]

@@moongoddess238 There’s a difference in facing what’s happened to u & having to continuously see & argue against ur rapist being released every couple of years for who knows how long. I can imagine it being more damaging to have to do this.

[@-jess--here--]

He acts like he's a victim.

[@jamesoncross7494]

That is what narcissists do, and psychopaths.

[@ritabrandow1318]

They all do

[@pasques]

under Christian America, he would be

[@RobertThirdReich]

​@@pasquesThis country was founded under God feel free to leave 😂

[@kristenforsthoffer3950]

They always do

[@angelachristina]

This dude needs to stay in prison. He "tries to stay away from bad people". Dude, you are "the bad people". His whole statement was a complete shitshow.

[@fudgicle1427]

That statement makes me think he's got an enabling mother behind him. So often with these shitbags, the parents excuse the kid's bad behavior with that old "he's a good kid but he always falls in with a bad crowd". Meanwhile, the kid has been the ringleader of all the trouble he's ever gotten in. Mothers do this way more than fathers. That's why he whipped out the old "I gotta stay away from the bad people", pretending he only does bad things when influenced by others. So were these magical others in the bathroom with him that night when he raped the woman? Nope. That was all him.

[@Tuxster3]

​@@jenniehughes6927You are an idiot! Get back to me after YOU'VE been raped, sodomized, and physically abused! Then I will tell YOU to basically GET OVER IT!

[@cynthia7564]

@@jenniehughes6927 I agree she is so valuable an individual that it would be in her interest to heal--but healing takes the time it takes and no one can dictate how long that will be. This guy minimizes her trauma by stating she should just get over it, and that tells me he will do it again.

[@rachelpadilla9368]

@@jenniehughes6927 So you think her rapist should be deciding when she should be getting over his rape of her??? Please tell me I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.

[@tammyfrancis7856]

@@rachelpadilla9368I know right?! Sh. Sh.!!!

[@elitereptilian200]

what the hell is the point of a life sentence if you can get parole after 10 freaking months? what an absolutely massive bad joke ffs..

[@tysongiordano5076]

In utah they give more parole chances but in all seriousness sex offenders spend a lot of time in prison they get rehirings all the time

[@MsLady-gb3gy]

❤🎉❤ Exactly ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤

[@dennisthamenacee]

There’s people here in salt lake getting probation for literally shooting people as long as the victim doesn’t die..

[@jc41831]

That's why they keep doing this, why because they know now hard will be handled to them. If it was the judges daughter would it be different

[@elizabethd8147]

He says he's willing to do whatever it takes to make her whole....drop the appeal! Wave your right to any and all parole hearings! Do your time and STFU!!! Don't just SAY you'll do whatever she needs....DO IT!!!

[@scottmccrea1873]

What a psycho. Parole hearing after 10 months? That's disgusting. Shame on the prosecutors who offered this deal and the judge who approved it.

[@Trent-s4v]

And yet I know someone who is doing a 20 year sentence, without possibility of parole for a non violent first offense drug trafficking. Shit makes no sense

[@scottmccrea1873]

@@Trent-s4v a federal sentence?

[@moongoddess238]

The law is the law it’s not there fault I took criminal justice classes and I felt the same way when I first started college

[@scottmccrea1873]

@@moongoddess238 You clearly skipped remedial English.

[@truthreigns3465]

The judge is a psycho too she wants the victim to remain an emotional victim for her whole life

[@rweber17]

“I’m sorry I came across as unsympathetic” Well you came across that way because you genuinely have no empathy

[@danaferguson462]

Sex crimes aren't taken seriously enough.

[@Joseph-fw6xx]

Not in Utah at least

[@mynameiseve.1]

men protect men and it will never change period

[@kevinb9830]

@@mynameiseve.1 absolute nonsense. The s offenders in prisons are in mortal danger every day

[@lisarenner3295]

I consider them to be attempted murder. The victim has NO idea if exposed to a life ending STD against her will and even if she wasn't, she gets to wonder and worry for the rest of her life.

[@y2ksurvivor]

​@@kevinb9830real life isn't the movies. this is patently false.

[@orvil9223]

"If I could give myself the death penalty, I would" Cool, just stay in prison then. Serve your whole sentence.

[@Mandoo_TWO]

💯

[@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226]

​@Mandoo_TWO Hi guys! I am a lifelong utah resident from SALT LAKE CITY (the CESSSSSSSPOOOOOOOL of blue in an otherwise beautiful sea of red!)... the DA is way chill to 2F sa cons... and if you have any questions about UTAH I am not a lawyer but know some things (first hand knowing DA would rather give 2x 2F Ra Of a ch. ZERO PRISON TIME! but bogus antigun charges? No deal! But i found a way to not only beat it but DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE). lol look at the replies to this comment to see who supports the very DA who gives light sentences to the worst.

[@lesliefortie8347]

@@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 what are you talking about????? I am from SLC myself and the "Blue" DA you are talking about got him a life sentence. The Board of Pardons and Parolees determines when an inmate goes up for parole in Utah not the DA or even the judge. This guy was in custody for almost 2 years before his sentencing so he probably just came up on an automatic review. Just because he gets a parole hearing does not mean his is being granted parole any time soon. This policy is set by our very "red" legislature.

[@lisakay8798]

Yep exactly!!

[@sasskvetch8617]

@@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 So your red state's laws are too liberal for you? Lawd nothing will appease you people until only you and you alone exist lol

[@tomcat9506]

“ I’m sorry if I could I’d take the death penalty “ Well, why are you appealing your case then? 😡

[@renb6133]

Exactly! He’s full of it! 😠

[@julieclayton-west624]

And still breathing.

[@BasicallyBasic990]

because he cant take the death penalty.

[@mariemarie3614]

​@@renb6133...more hot air than a hot air Ballon 💯

[@singlelifeok]

Nobody giving their victim a lifetime of trauma should get anything less than a lifetime themselves.

[@ritabrandow1318]

100 percent

[@rachelolson5488]

She did rise up, and she confronted her attacker once again.

[@FabiolaMacabre]

Yes she’s so brave

[@michaeljohnston4459]

Unfortunately, she can't just "move on" because this guy keeps popping up to remind her he exists.

[@lavenderlamp]

AMEN. yes she did!

[@emilykay115]

And I'm so very proud of her for that! That takes bravery and strength.

[@maryjaneblues7712]

@@michaeljohnston4459yes, she can move on, nobody has that power over & indiviual..it takes time & healing & she will never forget but she can move forward because this creep cant hurt anybody else..Id gladly keep going to keeo him locked up..the system sucks.

[@SD-ts7eb]

He will reoffend

[@abolishthe19thamendment]

He's banging all the little guys in prison as we comment. He's a p.o s

[@lilgorgo]

​@@supme7558 "multiple times...stated she was not ok with this". Within the first 4 mins of this video

[@Limitedonathios]

@@supme7558 said she said no several times and tried to call out for her friends

[@alwayspatriotic]

@@supme7558 Did the victim ever say yes?

[@jamesoncross7494]

100%

[@sbss924]

I love when they brag about not being on drugs or alcohol as it confirms they are predators driven by evil ( not drugs or alcohol)!!!!

[@jimjones1130]

I've used drugs on and off for 50 years... Never rped no one

[@bonnieboo1984OG]

It’s another way for them to not take full accountability for what they did. It’s criminal behavior.

[@ProfNDKai]

💯

[@Klaproossje]

​@@jimjones1130 so you r@ped everyone?

[@Deadpool_64]

“Ya not supposed to be on drugs and alcohol you low expectation having mother fucker!” -paraphrased from Chris Rock

[@kelsonl6084]

Anyone else catch his bullshit about how they couldn’t prove he was clean cus his pee kept being too watery? That’s not an accident, it’s a tactic to fool the test.

[@amandaharris5055]

Bingo

[@WN_Byers]

Considered an automatic fail where I grew up

[@gagecarlsen3872]

How would he know to drink extra water?

[@kelsonl6084]

@@gagecarlsen3872I didn’t say it came out naturally too watery, he could have added water, it depends how they took the test. If he or someone he knew had seen fellow inmates get a UA before, they have a general idea of when they’ll be testing you. They have 24/7 365 X however many years..they have time to think up methods that real people don’t have time to test. I’m sure there are other methods they have Just a theory. Usually if it’s too watery it’s from adding water but could by from overhydrating. I’ve never been to prison but I have friends his age or older who have and it’s easier to get away with things than you would think-and these guys aren’t even particularly clever, it’s just they have all their mind power towards one thing for so much time. They just have to find one CO who is underpaid and irritated w their boss or job and needs some money, that one insider will get them a lot. The cartels usually do that kind of stuff, simply because they have the resources and know the right people

[@Dr.JudeAEMasonMD]

Yup. I caught it.

[@karieschneider746]

A narcissist will viciously attack you, and then order you to not react to it. .

[@luvmenow33]

Gaslighting at its finest. 😡😡😡

[@sunset6010]

BINGO

[@tenaciousk50]

FACTS!!!

[@BEAUTYnIQ]

thats more like a Sadist..

[@courtneyr6645]

@@luvmenow33that’s not gaslighting at it’s finest. A narcissist attacking you then ordering you not to react isn’t gaslighting at all.

[@AngelinoShred]

Utah... making the victim relive their nightmare every 2 years

[@ReenieG1UK]

Prioritising the criminal over the victim 🙄

[@shauntesofly]

Mind blowing

[@SarahChilds-bd7ce]

Should be made to serve the entire sentence

[@eehlohluell]

The people of that state should be revolting if they had any conscience or morals. This whole thing is abhorrent to witness, I can't believe this isn't a priority issue with the constituents!

[@ritabrandow1318]

I know what it is about the nightmares, and it is so true. I had them for years

[@RealTalkWithGaryM]

The victim is being insulted by the criminal and the state of Utah. How in the hell can a person be up for parole only after serving 10 months. That’s crazy

[@cathywestholt5324]

Lock him up!! No parole!! No leniency after his attitude and statements to her!! His only remorse is that he got caught and sentenced. That man is a putrid, disgusting, malicious, detestable creature!!! 😡 That poor survivor. I just wanted to hold her and cry with her. ❤🙏❤

[@orvil9223]

He;s not trying to sound like a POS. It just comes natural.

[@yapper1200]

If the victim ever sees this, I want to thank you for being so brave. The system shouldn't rely on you to keep him there. As long as you want to fight, he won't win.

[@AndrewPeterson-nh4oj]

And karma will punish her for her in forgiveness. What kind of a bitter angry person are you. We are not to judge and to forgive. Yes, even this. You suck yo

[@jazpes.u5875]

I agree with you. I think that's a paradox. She can not win if she keeps fighting. She needs to move on and stop fighting, and he needs to be in jail forever

[@Birdmomma86]

My daughter was r@ped at 15yrs old and she will be 21 this fall. Since her assault, she has been diagnosed with cpstd, severe anxiety and depression, one suicide attempt, and has zero social life bc she never wants to leave the house bc shes afraid she'll see him in public. It has damaged her so severely that its too much for her mentally and emotionally to even think about going to the police and having to relive all the horrible details over and over to whatever detectives, DA, lawyers, etc are involved. I feel like coming forward would do more damage at this point. She refuses therapy, and now that she's a legal adult, I cannot make her do it. I hope one day she can be strong enough to put that monster where he belongs. And god help him if i ever find him.

[@beatricenilsson4530]

I have a daughter that suffered the same fate in a local outside park at 15 and she is also 21 now. My daughter is "somewhat" healed and the only way to do that is through. Not to avoid the trauma even how horrible it may sound. It is so much shame around these memories but for every time she speaks up, some of the shame goes away. I just wanted to give you hope by telling our story. There is a way to survive and eventually thrive again❤ I will pray that your daughter can power through somehow and live the wonderful life she deserves. Never give up ❤❤❤

[@MsTwissy]

Similar happened to me at 16. I had to choose between paying for healthcare to heal or pursuing legal action. I chose healthcare. Still to this day I have pelvic floor dysfunction chronic pain and pelvic floor nerve damage. I can’t have kids because intimacy is physically and mentally painful. He changed my whole future and is graduating to be a neurosurgeon next year

[@aznkat20]

Don't come forward unless she wants to. She's had her autonomy stripped away from her once by the perpetrator, please as a mother, a survivor myself and mother of children who have had this happen to one, wait for her to want to come forward. You are her safe space honey and I know as much as we want people punished for what they did to our kids we can't take their autonomy from them in that way ever again 😭🥺

[@margodphd]

I was 14, myself. If she doesn't want to come forward - for whatever reason - I would educate myself the best I can on the reality of the situation in your particular city and state and the circumstances and if she's basing that fear upon something that is a result of someone lying to her or fearmongering, I would try to somehow gently give her opportunity to easily access that information... But I'm feeling the her fears of the proceedings aren't without merit, unfortunately... No-one should be subjected to this,no one. I don't know your daughter but I'm really, really, really holding on my hope for her. Healing takes time and people do it in different ways,in different intervals. If she's anything like me, what has helped me is trying to regain my authority over my body, trying to regain the feeling that I'm safe - that *I* can protect me. I started getting into martial classes, I took up some shitty workout routine for "Hopeful Navy SEAL candidates" from early 2000s internet (... not the best choice, but a goal is good, concrete) and some such. I met awesome people in my "senior" krav maga class and they made me pretty realistic ballistic gel dummies with some bones of dubious origin and film blood and just let me at them, allowing me to scream at them what I felt when they did.. things and what I hope they are feeling now by the end of it we were all mauling a pile of Jello and my friend noticed that one of the plastic skulls had writings from students, one was girl's name with a heart next to it...and I just started laughing at the absurdity. My friend wheezed "oh no, grandma (she had a grandmother with similar name to one written) , I didn't know you did stunt work". And the intensity of it all came out of my body in this maniacal laughter and took some of my terror with it. It was absurd and gross and someone will criticise me for promoting violence against men or whatnot but this symbolic revenge got me back to the land of living and if these friends were still alive, I would continue to thank them for it at least weekly. I hope your daughter has good friends, genuinely good people friends, even if she alienated them in her grief. Do they know, do you know if they know? Maybe your daughter,too, needs to "get it out of her system", in a way? Maybe she feels she's constantly sanitising her words and feelings and experiences because of people's judgement and poorly timed,worded, unempathetic comments about "forgiveness", "moving on" or "other people suffer too" and other some such dismissive bullshit. Maybe she needs to not only learn how to kick ass to feel more secure (and remember, physical activity is a great way to reconnect with your body, to be conscious of your movement without it feeling like a therapy) but also, to just scream and wail at something and say out loud that she wishes that the piece of shit that hurt her that he rots alive and that he can feel maggots eating his insides till the day he dies in own excrement ...with people there withp her who will validate her feelings and cheer her on as she releases her anger? No judgement, without any toxic positivity and healing and whatnot. At least get a punching bag she could tape his resemblance. It's A OK not to want to delve on the academic discourse and understanding the perpetrator is a faulty human in society that enabled this for centuries and it's okay to feel unable to get up and contribute to that fight as a survivor. It's okay to be pissed off, mistrustful and mean. Not everyone has to find peace and healing and "grow from the trauma" instantly like social media seems to condition especially young women to do. My generation was just supposed to keep quiet, least our suffering embarrasses our family or out their honour into question. Both are shitty but with so much social media presence in young people's lives, perhaps that outside scrutiny and gossip is a part of why she withdrew from life?. I would bring that subject up, as discreetly as possible to see if perhaps other people's expectations of her, their gossip and questions are weighting in on her heart too. Maybe, gently, piece by piece you could uncover all of them and out them together. Maybe there's a survivor group she could connect with or you could ask her to go to self defense classes because you, yourself, are feeling afraid and powerless and it would make you feel less anxious to go if she went? Could you,or her with someone close and trusted, move, move far enough so she doesn't have to worry about seeing him for a while? The longer she continues to isolate, the more difficult it's going to be for her. Or, you know, perhaps it could be arranged for someone to take her rapist where he belongs, which is to the afterlife..? I'm only joking...kind of. Did she tell you what was the most difficult for her, was it the injustice or the feelings of guilt for being unable to "prevent him from hurting someone else"? Does she blame herself for whatever part of what happened (wearing skirt, wearing pants, being white,not being white - women have been blamed and shamed for "contributing" to our assault and we do internalise that, unfortunately, for it to haunt us in our darkest moments). Is she feeling ashamed of "missing out on life"? Not keeping up with lifestyles of people from school who are unaware of what happened, about them having theories? ( It may sound odd but I'm not "a people person" or particularly interested in "keeping up the appearances" but these were the things *I* worried about, no matter how much I tried denying it then... can't imagine how difficult it would be now with social media). I wish I had my mom help me then and care, like you care for her. I know you two can tackle this, that with time the visceral pain will let up enough that you two can, together (but, hopefully in the future - with a good therapist versed in subject and a support group alongside her) start disassembling the slow ticking bomb of torment and grief and fear and shame and pain and guilt that he left her with. I know you will succeed. There will come a time when she realises that she's ready to call herself a survivor and I hope you get to celebrate that day together as soon as possible. ❤❤

[@mwwkwnwkm]

@@aznkat20 idk ik its kinda selfish to say but i hate the "Don't come forward unless you want to" you simply HAVE to even if its hard. ik that doesnt sound great but its kinda what needs done to also just feel better and not be worried abt seeing him. also if you wait so long it doesnt get taken seriously. when sometimes it already isnt taken serious

[@briesthoughts2261]

He has no remorse. He says he’s “telling her” to get over it and “rise up!”. He’s abhorrent and evil.

[@janicedevereux2839]

How is it possible that the DA charged him with an “attempted rape” as opposed to a rape in the first degree? That is not only infuriating. It’s insulting. 🤬

[@luvmenow33]

Probably was originally charged with that , but took a lesser Offense in the deal

[@janicedevereux2839]

@@luvmenow33 yes exactly… that’s what infuriating. Although if he wouldn’t agree to a plea , there would’ve been a trial and could’ve been even harder on her .

[@Cobra-ky9bt]

Plea deal.

[@cbozant3428]

@@janicedevereux2839often times the consult with the victim. Maybe she didn’t want to testify and relive the trauma as what happens in most cases. To take it to trial means need to prove your case and prosecutor would look like a ahole forcing a victim to take the stand. I’m happy she has a mission of making sure this pos never gets out. Hopefully these impact statements stay permanently in his file.

[@Greatgadgetsgear]

Well if he’s appealing then the original charges should be reinstated and fully prosecuted. Should have to serve 10 years minimum before first parole give victim a chance at therapy and time away from her attacker

[@chilltarts]

He’s basically saying, “it was just sex. Yeah you might not of wanted it, but so what. Get over it. You shouldn’t have been dressed that way/or drunk at the bar/or whatever excuse he tells himself”😡 Lock him up for the next 30 years, if not longer. He is dangerous because he does not view women as equal people who have autonomy and an inherent right to safety and free will, regardless of how “appealing” you may find them to look at.

[@fishbord]

There is a time and place for this in the healing process. She will need to Confront it and "rise above" at some point if she wants to get to a healthy place But the fact that her abuser is the one saying so early and in such a raw state shuts the door on it probably forever.

[@LewisBrazelz]

​@@fishbord yes of course she's gonna have to find strength to move on but the person who caused all of this is the last person that needs to speak on it . Dude clearly doesn't care and just wants his own life back

[@mikeadams8027]

So you agree that people who think like that and do things like that should be jailed. Why then do Dems want to bring in a whole religion who thinks that way? And yes, even if it is only a few percent of them, how many women should be attacked before we care?

[@shawnwilliam4653]

​@@LewisBrazelzthe type of idiot who would leave comments like the other 2 have lost the right to be taken seriously by anyone about anything...Just look at the dumb sh!t they typed. .Morons who don't know what they are talking about and another loon who believes wierd sh!t that's not true...I just wish people would ignore losers like this

[@fishbord]

@@mikeadams8027 Take you're crusade some where else.

[@meganbessenbacher7107]

This was aggravated sexual battery and first degree r*pe!! These charges are ridiculous!!

[@yvonnemurphy2172]

SHAME ON UTAH'S LEGAL SYSTEM.... INNOCENT CHILDREN BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED BY YOUR ADULTS & SERVE LITTLE PRISON TIME! SHAME SHAME!!

[@Junitunes]

She was a child? Sounds like it was in a bar?

[@colinlarson9656]

He was charged with....."attempted rape"? WTF? Where exactly was the "attempt"? He very much did that to that poor woman. Let him rot in solitary.

[@Cobra-ky9bt]

Cut a deal with the DA's office.

[@blazefairchild465]

She felt his penis in her vagina, is rape not attempted rape. No parole should be offered until after 15-years at least.

[@jturtle5318]

It was a plea bargain.

[@darlenedavis8690]

What a disgrace. Utah should be ashamed.

[@StrGzr101]

He apologized to everyone in the room but the victim.

[@stvnsn]

Being up for parole in 10 months on a life sentence is insane!! The victim doesn’t even have time to even try to begin the healing process before having to relive the nightmare smh

[@JNDeaux]

_"I've improved myself beyond belief."_ Correct. Nobody believes you.

[@Ruth78620]

I've been rxped you dont ever "move on" you're left with a life sentence so the perpetrator should get life too. He shows absolutely no remose for what he did im sure in his mind " she was asking for it, if she hadnt been drunk, dressed like that" blah blah blah I'd put money on the fact hes done this before.

[@Mandoo_TWO]

❤️‍🩹

[@apricotlane74]

Her victim impact statement was absolutely heartbreaking. I imagine it was very difficult for the parole board to hold back their tears…

[@reneblanc7410]

He says if he could help her by bringing on a death sentence he would. Liar. All he needs to do is stop his appeal, serve his plea-bargained sentence and never apply for parole again.

[@amiedavis5257]

Well yea, if he could he'd bring a death sentence to HER. His name is Mohammed.

[@cbozant3428]

This mf tried to give a motivational speech to his victim. To the woman hearing him. He’s next level diabolical

[@moongoddess238]

Yes in deep talking narcissistic smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@jags333]

I think he was genuinely trying to say something positive and fumbled it so horrendous that it came off wild asl

[@AAMM101]

​@@jags333found the grape apologist. I hope someone says something positive/motivational about moving on with life, to your wife/mom/daughter/sister, after he'd graped her.

[@1utube01]

He didn't try to give a motivational speech, he tried to pretend to give one. He had no intent to motivate her. He had every intent to make it appear like he was giving one. Incompetently.

[@deborahtyler6567]

Psychopaths DON'T change. Why are they even paroled? Disgusting and sickening.

[@bonnieboo1984OG]

Yeah keep them off our streets and away from the public ! What about our safety cause this man will reoffend again and again .

[@user-ln7rn6dr6p]

After hearing her testify I hope he serves his entire sentence 🤬🤬🤬

[@georgemonde8237]

How is this "attempted" rape?? He put it in!

[@audradaniels4161]

I think the charges may have been reduced due to a plea deal

[@Chellz801]

Plea deal

[@nicoleb81]

@@jessica_jam4386I don’t think he’s a Mormon but nice try… Mormons aren’t ok with grape or ex with someone who isn’t your partner. What is actually more likely is that it got reduced because he probably accepted a plea.

[@lillieberger2883]

Wth

[@Riza20462]

​@@jessica_jam4386 happens in ny and cali too

[@user-qp7zc9cp3b]

That poor woman has to keep reliving it every parole hearing. They seem to care more about the perpetrator than the victim. Disgusting.

[@Ruth78620]

It's always the way. My ex was caught by an online predator group and the protection he received was vomit inducing. He was put up in a hotel far away from the town we live in, then he was given a phone with WiFi access which is how he commited his offenses and I know he's been online which isn't allowed under his bail conditions, he's been given a flat twice because he didn't feel " safe" in the first one. I tell you it boils my blood!!! He should get no protection his victim didn't, he should get put into general population in prison so he can feel what it's like to be the prey. He's stalking me now and its getting really malevolent so I've moved so he doesn't know where I am now and I'm reporting him so off to jail he'll go. I've also made posters and put them up in the area he's living to make people aware to watch their children.

[@onionman8021]

@@Ruth78620 Thank you for making others with children aware of that freak, Stay safe

[@BasicallyBasic990]

I always hear people say that, how do they care more about the perp than the victim?

[@industrialover]

You hear tears in his voice because he thinks he messed up his chance to get out early, not because he feels bad

[@txmack1]

A rapist getting a plea deal is disgusting and is not in anyway justice.

[@user-nl6oo2wx2e]

The only thing he’s sorry for is that he is in jail.

[@lisae3663]

He apologized for what he just said, but he never apologized to April for what he did *to her*

[@mpettway6982]

Yup! He's disgusting.

[@valeriehedlund7341]

Right? He's trying to guess why he should act sorry, has no idea. Feels nothing for the woman's excruciating suffering. Barely mentions her.

[@ElephantBobcat]

He just started flinging out apologies to everyone in the courtroom, and not her. Glad she doesn't need it to continue to heal, April is very strong. ✨💪🏻

[@nancygreen1655]

The victim didn’t address him but he’s still addressing her! 🤬😡

[@stellawilkerson7579]

This is a walking stalking animal! When he gets out, I believe he'll just be smarter next time not to get caught! If he acts this cavalier at his Parole hearing what must he be like on the outside. He is a danger to society. A predator with NO moral compass!!

[@ChrispyChken]

i feel like he doesnt realize that he did anything wrong

[@MrBud667]

In his mind, he's the victim...

[@rabidrabbitshuggers]

He doesn’t. At all. Not a single shred of guilt or self-awareness. And this is par for the course as far as these cases go.

[@annamarielewis7078]

He really doesn’t have a clue. He never will

[@tomasjosefvela1]

In his mind she just misunderstood what happened "between them" .... total piece of garbage!

[@stevemiller7893]

What happened ? I missed it. Sounds like a scumbag Hopefully she can get far away from him and lead a good life

[@diogenes34]

Next date to determine if he’s eligible for parole should be around 2097.

[@SqualidsargeStudios]

Nah it should be 2124

[@tonyjones6904]

He's lying to her he's not trying to get in the sex offender program because he's trying to appeal the conviction how are you going to go into a sex offender program and the first thing you're going to say is I didn't commit the crime I'm appealing the conviction there's no sense he's a liar and besides that he's told everybody he's in for armed robbery he's a liar

[@LDrosophila]

The victim is so brave. Disgusting Utah tortures her over and over again.

[@mekeiawatson]

I'm glad she went off on him! The nerve of him to say that after he committed a violent act against her!

[@garyhonas1848]

HE SHOULD GO UNDER THE JAIL

[@Genxgurl]

More than likely, this guy vented his rage and hatred on other women and will do so again.

[@moongoddess238]

Yes yes yes men well I won’t say man little boys like him think women are beneath him so he will never change he’s not sorry he just sorry he got caught

[@NorthBayFCT]

The poor brave victim gave the most heart wrenching statement and his first response is not to apologize but to get defensive about how he HAS tried to better himself. And then he says she shouldn’t use him as a reason to keep herself down as if she wants to feel this way? AND he said he wants to help his community - well, he can by staying in prison. Piece of sh*t.

[@gabe_2544]

It almost seems like he takes her victim impact statement/s as complaints that he’s bad at s*x. I have to wonder how many times he’s committed SA’s before, like on dates, but the woman was too ashamed, self-blaming or fearful about reporting.

[@mpettway6982]

The majority of rapes aren't even reported.

[@LordMondegrene]

... or the others didn't SURVIVE. Sounds like he roofied her.

[@LordMondegrene]

... or his other victims didn't survive the roofie overdose.

[@lazydaisy2292]

No, it didn't. It didn't sound like that at all. Where did you get that from? He was basically telling her to get over it because he didn't want her getting in the way of his release because he had no remorse and no morals. Why would you think he was thinking she was complaining he was bad at sex? He didn't say anything like that. Hella weird statement.

[@tracy7612]

​@lazydaisy2292 - You don't get to tell someone what to think. You don't know their point of view. You don't decide what's weird, especially in the KZbin comment section!!🙄

[@AlbinoWhiteGuy]

I can’t imagine what this victim has gone through. What an absolute monster, that needs to be life without parole.

[@user-dw5vf3iw2m]

ABSOLUTELY!!

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

That's unfortunately not a thing in Utah, because they have indeterminate sentencing. Even though he's regularly up for parole due to Utah's legal system, I bet he still spends most of the rest of his life behind bars.

[@supme7558]

Which one

[@Leo_Pard_A4]

​@@supme7558all of them.

[@realistically9091]

No , he will get out soon, stop being evil

[@GradKat]

His initial comments, in response to his victim’s statement, told us all we need to know about this man. He is completely indifferent to the suffering he has caused that woman; he’s forgiven himself, so she needs to “move on”. Only when the Parole Board administrator rebuked him did he suddenly go all “oh, boo-hoo, I’m so sorry, I wish I’d got the death penalty, blah, blah”. He will only ever say what he thinks will go down best for his chances of parole. And quite frankly, that he was allowed to plead to “attempted” SA, when he actually committed the assault - not to mention he’s able to request parole 10 months into his sentence - proves that he is unlikely to learn anything from the justice system, or have any incentive to reform.

[@chermarano]

Why don't the victims get free trade school/ college? Why do the perpetrators get so much and their victims so little?

[@yourdadsotherfamily3530]

Don’t worry… the victims get “””justice”””

[@MaditaFin]

This kind of system is a true life sentence for the victim. The state of Utah is victimizing the victims/survivors every time there is a parole hearing. That is disgusting.

[@missychan63]

TEN MONTHS of a life sentence??? I don't even have words.

[@carriematthews7991]

Total POS should never be released.

[@ISayWhatYouWanttoSay]

Never

[@carrieday8423]

Facts

[@Mewse1203]

"I've bettered myself beyond belief" That is probably the most true statement he said the entire time. It is absolutely beyond belief because nobody's going to believe him

[@survivor_speaks]

I am a survivor of 4 years of sex trafficking and strangulation, to name just a few things. The perpetrator is still teaching college in California. Broken justice system. Hugs to the victim ❤

[@Mandoo_TWO]

🤬😡😱❤️‍🩹

[@AFVfan1]

WTF?!?! That’s insane! I’m so sorry about what happened to you. :(

[@kungfreddie]

He is still appealing the conviction yet has a parole hearing? Plz make it make sense!

[@cbozant3428]

Appealing a deal he took and pleaded guilty to 😂

[@KaysWorld4]

@@cbozant3428I thought when you accept a deal you give up the right to appeal?

[@mpettway6982]

​@KaysWorld4 you have limited rights to appeal. I doubt he will be successful.

[@KaysWorld4]

@@mpettway6982 thank you for that info! Don’t think he’ll be successful either.

[@fionaryder632]

​@@KaysWorld4exactly! From.watching Judge Boyd.

[@debibarlow8904]

If they ever let him out he will repeat his behavior. Crying for yourself because you knew your not getting out now.

[@dudemorris7769]

He will be out in 2026, as they said that he can only be remanded to their jurisdiction til 2026. He can come up for parole before that time.

[@realistically9091]

@@dudemorris7769good , he didn’t murder anyone

[@gardener3017]

Our system doesn't value women or children. If it did, a rapist wouldn't even be up for parole after a measly 10 months. I've known people that did longer sentences for traffic violations.

[@anthonykarnes6804]

You think it values men?

[@sarah69420]

@@anthonykarnes6804you think it doesn't? Look at the rapist Brock Allen Turner, who drugged, raped, and abandoned a woman behind a dumpster. Brock Allen Turner, the rapist who got only 3 months for his horrific and traumatic attack of a woman he drugged. Brock Allen Turner who goes by his middle name Allen Turner, who moved to the Dayton, Ohio area and is known to frequent bars in the area. How does the court system not favor white men?

[@Hunee-]

I’m so sorry for the first survivor of a violent crime. I’m sick of plea deals at the expense of the victims. I wish you peace and healing that you so much deserve.

[@sharonobryan9713]

What a strong and brave survivor! She deserves a lot of credit. Giving her details must have been incredibly difficult! She took that hearing in hand!

[@laureljenkins1208]

Imagine having this happen as a woman...he is a pos and he should be locked up forever so no other woman has to fear this

[@Nick-nu1lp]

You mean getting intoxicated to the point of not being coherent and putting yourself in a position to be compromised?

[@CoeBroussard]

@@Nick-nu1lpyikes … this is a weird justification for violating a persons body. Good luck to those who cross your path. 🤞

[@TheFenrirulfr]

@@Nick-nu1lp I found the rapist, guys! ^^^^

[@stevewhite3424]

​@Nick-nu1lp Straight out of the rapist guide book.

[@supme7558]

​@Nick-nu1lp exacly she dosnt take responsibility for being that drunk so was he ..regret is not ra*^÷

[@JulieAnn02261990]

"I'd take the death penalty for her"....but he's begging to get out of serving his time.

[@braveheart9097]

Yeah I know that’s crazy to me…. I also hear a lot of people say “people with sex crimes don’t survive in prison”. Clearly this guy is alive and well even in prison.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

It's also just a ridiculous thing to say in general considering that Utah has only executed two people in the past 34 years, and none since 2010. Ron Lafferty was on death row in Utah for almost 40 years and ended up dying of natural causes.

[@WhosWhointheZoo123]

@@braveheart9097 Yes, it's a myth..... same with child PDO's... we're told about "prison justice" and it's a bunch of bull. The creeps survive and do very well, there is no such thing as prison justice, it's a fairy tale.

[@michaeljohnston4459]

He got the infamous "10 months to life" sentence.

[@daynasafranek7807]

And is already needing “prostate help”… gee, I wonder why 😅

[@heather-cz8yk]

Bloody disgrace Utah that he has this hearing at all after only 10 mos. Disgusting to all rape victims everywhere!

[@Greatgadgetsgear]

Parole hearing after 10 months?? What?! This is cruel and unusual punishment for the victim to have to go thru the trauma over and over after short periods of time?? She’s now in prison as well and can’t move on having to keep reliving this at each 2 year period! What a travesty of justice. There should be minimum of 10 years before a parole hearing at the beginning of a sentence. Her life will continually be in limbo and the laws need to change in these hick states. Parole after 4 years after raping a woman and whatever he did to children in his own family?? Makes you wonder about the kind of people on the parole board?? Sympathizers?? Disgusting

[@shastajustice3753]

I'm thankful this type of crime against women is finally being taken seriously and the offenders are being held accountable. Growing up female, this crime is always looming. The woman on the parole board was did an excellent job - she was direct and well spoken.

[@nacho_ncam]

If it was truly being taken seriously, he wouldn't be up for parole after 10 months of a life sentence, forcing the victim to relive her trauma every time he goes to for parole.

[@bonnieboo1984OG]

@@nacho_ncam100% true !

[@bonnieboo1984OG]

@@brijac04 probably meant “growing up as a female(woman)”

[@Jenny-nz8fb]

Most of these crimes never end up in court and the horrifying ones that do get dropped to lesser charges!!

[@kellysheridan3149]

Pure evil !!!! I feel for the lady she's going through hell good on her for sharing and speaking out I wish her all the best ❤

[@alannatiernan61]

There should be no plea deals for violent crimes.

[@BBBATGIRL]

‘I need a prostrate check’?? What an odd response to asking if you are healthy!

[@GO-ej1pg]

I thought the same. That was so weird. So freaking inappropriate. What a d….k

[@carriefawcett9990]

It's called a *prostate*, not proSTRATE. Prostrate is a position, lying face down. So sick of people getting this wrong.

[@BBBATGIRL]

Typed it as he pronounced it! Rapists don’t care about spelling or annunciation- they just care about themselves and their disgusting behavior and needs

[@wrenpeach6707]

​@carriefawcett9990 that was probably an autocorrect, calm down Captain Prostate

[@CherylBianculli-gq1ww]

What a monster

[@Tranqd.24]

Bone chilling.

[@jamjam8793]

The first hearing with the strong af victim and the parole board member that didn't let that man say dumb stuff was great. The second was ridiculous and dangerous. We should all be scared how easy it is for violent offenders to get parole! Thank you Mandoo and Richard for the exposure!

[@LegendLength]

First one felt like a power tripper

[@BertsmomUK]

The second one was ridiculous he barely questioned him so didn't get any explanation of anything then they let him out, he'll be back, I hope the father's of the children meet him one dark night somewhere quiet and show him the error of his ways.

[@lauracook8203]

The 1st guy had an excuse for everything- won't even cop to a dirty drug screening 🙄. He bragged about passing victim awareness class. Can you even imagine what kind of person would fail that? Yikes.

[@AbsurdCats]

The first guy is gonna re-offend. He’s sad for himself.

[@stephenmarcus7051]

That poor victim. He should be kept under the prison for the atrocities he perpetrated on this woman. Let him do life. He’s an unrepentant monster. How dare he address the victim like this. Outrageous. He doesn’t get to explain anything to her

[@_Chiklet_]

That is torture for her. She will never heal, the wounds are being torn open every 2 years and 1 month. It would have been easier for her had she just moved away and never said anything - like most women do. She is beyond brave. Her living hell, Sentenced over and over, 2 years, 1 month 2 years, 1 month Repeat, Remember, Repeat, A victims demise, Ticking away, 2 years, 1 month, 2 years, 1 month.

[@mickeykyker4837]

He basically was saying, it's no big deal get over it. What a sick twisted animal, and to have to come in every two years and face that monster infuriates me. What the! 10 months, 10 MONTHS!!!!! And she has to come in and make a case to defend herself and try and keep him in prison. I'm so furious right now. The laws need to change, the victims need to have more rights, and not be put through cruel unnecessary trauma. Ridiculous!

[@georgiaval1]

It was very passive aggressive of him to throw in he needs a prostate check. That’s to re-traumatize the victim into flashing back to his member and the other two. He could’ve kept that to himself; it’s typically just a wellness check. What a disgusting POS!

[@NikkiC777]

Yeah I noticed that too. I thought that was a pretty weird and disgusting thing to say. It's not like he is even that old either. Most men his age would not have been worrying about that at that age. I am pretty sure he isn't either. He just had to throw that in there because he wanted to be able to say something that would remind her of his disgusting crimes.

[@elishh8173]

Exactly, that was sick and manipulative of him. Disgusting sociopath attacking the victim in every way he can. He should serve life in prison. He wouldn't understand how the victim feels unless it happened to himself. He doesnt respect women unless they have authority over him. Throw away the key

[@realistically9091]

I bet you would do it and sniff and lick your fingers afterwards

[@jimb1283]

it looks like he spent nearly two years in jail before sentencing(690 days). It is probably just an automatic referral. No way this guy should get paroled.

[@Donlewis4683]

His name?

[@almostthere2024]

Sounds like he has learnt nothing about respect for meaning of 'consent' or empathy for his victim. He is simply saying what he feels he needs to be free. No sir, you deserve to serve every day and more.

[@mstBel889]

This guy has the mental maturity of an 8 year old. Bring back mental institutions.

[@helenjohnssonfredriksson2733]

Yes!! They are needed

[@BEAUTYnIQ]

oo but they were so mean and cruel to the poor, misunderstood offenders..

[@leward7788]

while better mental institutions are sorely needed, this man does not qualify. he's a predator and makes decisions while fully cognizant of what he's doing. don't conflate the two, it minimizes them both

[@joanhuegel8326]

I know you didn't mean to disparage 8 year olds!

[@WarriorLori]

This guy does not belong in a mental institution. He would actually have to be mentally ill for that.

[@kathyabernathy467]

This is disgusting! Treating this woman like dirt so this monster can abuse her over and over! God bless her she is a hero for doing everything she can to keeping other women safe from this animal

[@OldCBnGuns]

10 months! This is a life sentence ridiculous. I was waiting for them to say it’s been 10 years

[@kissed_by_sunshine_10]

Only got 4 mins in. I couldn't continue. The description of what the perpetrator did disgusted so badly. My heart broke for that little girl.

[@Joseph-fw6xx]

I've never heard a prisoner talk like this before never let this guy out

[@lindarockafellow5058]

How about the gramps saying his 6 yro granddaughter wore her shirt too low cut???? He should never see the light of day either! Brutal men getting plea deals makes me sick!!!

[@cybersecurity4462]

💯 Agree with you, he’s a TRUE COWARD! His true colors betrayed him once the victim took her power back & stood up to him in person! This monster will REOFFEND 🤬 uggg our system is so broken 😞

[@dallasflynn5200]

It’s not broken…it’s just the same. 😢

[@spitfirestake54]

The first guy? Oh my Lordt! I can’t believe what came out of his mouth. Straight danger to society. Petrifying

[@JohnSmith-pp8rf]

He should NEVER see the light of day again.

[@folgerboy]

“I really, really, really wish that there was something I could do.” You’re already doing it. What you are really saying is “I wish I could do anything to fix this other than doing my time.”

[@SMMiles]

Why isn’t the punishment life in prison with no parole for this?

[@LordMondegrene]

Most politicians are high in psychopathy. Washington, DC has more diagnosed psychopaths than any other city. So they don't take SA, or any crime seriously (except crime against them personally.)

[@Joyce-dd3fm]

OMG Monster for sure. The poor victim!

[@rachaellewis9698]

Not asking but telling her to move on. She lost her mental health, her marriage and her job! He has some nerve to emotionally torment her in public like that and expect to walk free. He needs to stay locked away

[@naomi.7777]

I had the opportunity to confront the man who SA me as a child for over a year and he basically had the same attitude. Seemed shocked it still affected me so many years later and proceeded to tell me how they gave him a hard time crossing the border due to his conviction. Then went on about a horrible car accident his daughter was in years ago and all his health issues. I was dumb founded. He made it all about him.

[@RuminatingWizard]

"You will be paroled at some point" WHY?? What is this mindset that offenders should be automatically paroled at some point? What is wrong with actually serving the sentence handed down?

[@brsu184]

So creepy! Some times don't you just feel the need to take a shower when creeps like him finish talking I'll be right back

[@Jess22246]

He is trying to victimize her again, he is a monster !!! He ruined her life and scared her and has the audacity to try to tell her how to move forward. Keep him in prison he has no remorse at all

[@JohnSmith13146]

This guy has absolutely no empathy. Concerned about “bettering himself” while he has a victim literally in tears confronting him.