Manfred Von Karma's Penalty

[Spoilers for Investigations 2 - The inherited Turnabout and PWAA - Turnabout Goodbyes]
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Gregory Edgeworth exposes Manfred Von Karma to the Chief Prosecutor.
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We never got to actually see the scene where Blaise Debeste penalized Von Karma for forcing a confession out of Jeffrey Master. So I imagined the scene in this vid. Pardon any plot inconsistencies.
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Credit to JTPaper for the remastered Prosecutorial Investigation Committee theme.
Made in Objection.lol
Enjoy
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Character Credits-Codes:
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1) Gregory Edgeworth (by User): RBTCCV
2) Blaise Debeste (by Darksoner): DTYMSK
3) Manfred Von Karma AAI (by turnabouttom2005): MRWITJ
4) Jeffrey Master White Hair (by Chokolatero): LDLYQW
5) Sebastian Debeste (by Idioticheskiy): XIQSXU

[@michelleanderson5244]

This is my favorite kind of fanfiction right here. The kind that takes existing plot threads and weaves them in a new way. It makes total sense that Blaise Debeste was pitting Edgeworth and Von Karma against each other. Also, when the PIC was introduced in AAI2, I was like "How did this organization exist all along and still let Von Karma run the show?" This is a pretty good answer to that.

[@debastiansebeste]

I love those kinds of vids too (which is why I make such vids 😁). In the AAI2 game you could see (mostly through Courtney's words) that it was hinted how Blaise purposely penalized Von Karma because "he didn't like anyone else having authority". So you could say I did have a small basis to extend on, about Blaise being the big bad ;)

[@krovavykrasny]

it must be considered as a canon. The only moment in the whole series, when the almighty Manfred von Karma gets bullied by funny anarchist biker chief prosecutor who is hidden psychopath and genius in fact. Bro did the whole history.

[@debastiansebeste]

If only I had seen that "funny anarchist biker chief prosecutor " earlier, I'd have added it in Debeste's introduction at 0:38 😂

[@MrL0WEL]

I love that despite Von Karma’s perpetration on DL6, and that how the case played out had caused many more issues that would later become the story points of the 2nd and 3rd AA games, this video paints that he was never the mastermind prosecutor that everybody insists that he was, but rather just a prideful and toxic (albeit gifted) perfectionist who was able to reach the pinnacle of his career because he had help from someone at the very top, whom used their abundance of power and resources to cover Von Karma’s trail and ensure his every victory.

[@debastiansebeste]

To be fair, the dialogue from 2:40 to 2:58 is taken directly from Manfred's flashback in the first game right after Phoenix exposes him. It wasn't just my idea that Manfred had someone cover for him, it's actually legit canon 😁

[@PauloVitorHMK]

Wow, to think Debeste was plotting their downfall all along really puts things into perspective. Surely this won't backfire horribly for him.

[@debastiansebeste]

Nah, he needs not worry. He's "Miles" away from any danger Wait

[@PauloVitorHMK]

@@debastiansebeste No, you're right. Von Karma's protege is so caught up in his own sorrows he would never dare to challenge the PIC. No way would a sane person even consider opening that can of worms, "Wrightfully" so. Hold up

[@debastiansebeste]

@@PauloVitorHMK oh yeah. That's absolutely Wright Hmmmm

[@yoshiplays550]

There's no way a man without any legal authority or job would even dare to speak up to him, and even accuse him of murder W R I G H T ?

[@EnderGrad]

Holy cow. This is some really decent writing. It would even fit well in the actual AA games Also, I love how this makes Blaise feel like a bigger mastermind than Von Karma and other characters

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks! It was sort of hinted that Blaise did want to get rid of both Karma and Edgeworth, and that he used detective Lacer to do it, but it wasn't that clear in GK2. But I wanted to make it clear as day 🤣 Glad you like it!

[@ZoomReverseFlash]

Blaise is this already.

[@blastthechaos6083]

Hmmm -Has an Edgeworth as his rival -Has a perfect record -Inspired others to follow his path -Presented Forged Evidence without knowing -Got punished for the Bar Association/P.I.C. -Said trial he presented Forged Evidence also involved a child losing their parent and then adopting said child to raise them as their own -Formed a years long plan of revenge(Granted, their motivation are vastly different) -Is a legend in the World of Law Von Karma is reminding me of someone, but I don't know who he is...That man in a Blue suit or something

[@debastiansebeste]

Holy damn He even wears blue himself You're onto something big here, I never even saw all those resemblances with Wright xD

[@nicholasheng4829]

But wright didn’t have a perfect record up until when he was disbarred he lost the Engarde trial

[@blastthechaos6083]

@@nicholasheng4829 I don't count the Engarde case cause that's a little unfair to him, he was forced to defend him and purposely wanted to lose that trial if he didn't Engarde didn't have Maya as a hostage. Overall I don't count the times he lost because he was often handicapped by defending someone against his will (JFA and SOJ) or for something he had no control over (Being tricked in the Magnify case, although honestly I wouldn't count that cause the trial didn't get a verdict), YMMV if you think it's fair to count them or not

[@Local_idiot13]

​@@nicholasheng4829eh technically he did win every case, the murderer always got sent to prison

[@Heylanda-fb9xb]

It's still a lost. Him accepting a guilty client and can't defend them from accusation is a defeat, regardless of circumstances. But to be fair, Defense Attorney tend to lost their case a lot anyway since most of the time, DA were there to ensure a fair amount of punishment and respectable right for the accused. Rarely did they go for Not Guilty verdict.

[@herrjurgen7928]

Okay, this is impressive storytelling right here that it could be considered canon. Truly Debeste of the best. Bravo, mate!

[@debastiansebeste]

This is Debeste comment I could read regarding my vid. Thanks 😁

[@dansurasshu]

I loved that you bothered to give more background to Manfred's grudge against Greg with the instigation, very nice touch.

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks! I thought it wasn't properly explained in the GK2 game that Debeste actually *wanted* to pitch the two against each other, so I thought of making it an important point in the vid. Glad you liked it!

[@thehatmaster1390]

@@debastiansebeste If I could intervene, where exactly in AAI2 did they imply the existence of Blaise wanting to pit them against each other in the first place? Don't get me wrong, that is an amazing to expand a relationship, but I just want to know how this is an understated plot point rather than a headcanon. Like, where in the game did it state this? Which case and what part, preferably?

[@debastiansebeste]

@@thehatmaster1390 it's not some specific case, more like hints scattered throughout the game. Like the fact that Courtney tells us right after she indicted Debeste, that he never liked anyone else to have authority and power (and that he even preferred to see them disappear). While we see that Von Karma held some prestige and authority among the prosecutors. Which implies that Blaise didn't like the power Von Karma held inside the Prosecutorial Office. And we got the fact that Debeste had detective Rip Lacer report directly to him and not to Von Karma, while initially keeping Von Karma in the dark about Dover's disappearance. One could argue that Debeste hastened with the forgery of the autopsy report himself, not in order to assist Von Karma obviously, but to tighten the loop around his neck (sort of forcing him to follow the forged autopsy route) and that way by pitching him against Edgeworth, which, let's face it, sooner or later proved to be Von Karma's downfall. Then again, it might just be me grasping at straws, but that's how I see it at least imo

[@g.t.nlastwish8410]

​@@debastiansebestehow very interesting

[@thehatmaster1390]

@@debastiansebeste I can see that. You're trying to read in between the lines.

[@BlackAce5ds]

I was sad to see Gregory's inner thoughts on what has happened. Now I really want to see a channeled Gregory Edgeworth talk with his grown up son. Only time I ever see the two talk with each other was in the anime when Miles was a kid.

[@debastiansebeste]

Definitely my next project

[@anthonyaddo]

Stunning. Perfectly written and possible to imagine as canon. In fact, I think I'll do just that! Amazing job as always.

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks!! 🙏

[@razorratproductions3499]

Damn This is a pretty interesting story. Kind of depressing as well since we already know how it all ended.

[@debastiansebeste]

Oh yeah. Watching Gregory mop the floor with Von Karma during the Inherited Turnabout's flashback was even sadder, knowing how Gregory ended up in the end. Even accusing the wrong person after death. :(

[@TheWeirdSomeThingNetwork2]

Oh my goodness, it's RazorRat.

[@keyaaghaei]

Great fanfiction and storytelling! Your logic is consistent to how it’s represented in the games. It really feels like this part could have been added in Gyakuten Kenji 2. It’s a shame you don’t have a Young!Blaise Debeste sprite though. Much as I extremely hate him, your portrayal was in-character hands down. I really love how you accumulated all the knowledge of The Inherited Turnabout, as well. Keep up the great work!

[@debastiansebeste]

Many thanks! Glad you like it! Well, about Blaise, to be fair he's the exact same age as Manfred Von Karma, and Von Karma also looked exactly the same as he did in Turnabout Goodbyes, so I figured Blaise would also look the same 😂

[@BlackAce5ds]

Damn Von Karma got humiliated and bullied. Guy lost his shit several times in this confrontation. You do great work man, everyone is in character and it's done so well I really believe all this is canon

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

After hearing all that referral from the Chief Prosecutor, no wonder Von Karma would become so vulnerable to his instinct to kill for revenge.

[@debastiansebeste]

Oh yeah. Debeste played him like a puppet

[@hawks-wings]

@@debastiansebeste blaise scares tf out of me anyone who treats and uses MANFRED VON KARMA as a plaything and puppet is NOT to be fucked with

[@adityagandhi9882]

For a moment I actually forget that I am watching a fanfiction play out rather than a actual scene in a game. It's so well written and somehow blends really well to actually what happened in a game.

[@SSmurfa]

Wow, you even got the dialogue from the AA1 flashback! This is really good.

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks! Side note: There's also 2:39 which is the dialogue from Manfred's flashback after Wright exposed him in Turnabout Goodbyes 😁

[@PersioZ]

Oh yes I wanted to do this since I finished AAI2 some 6 months or so ago but didn’t found the sprites, thank you so much

[@debastiansebeste]

Have you checked the Untitled Courtroom on Discord? They have pretty much everything when it comes to characters

[@diesakuma367]

Recently discovered your channel This is one of the best thing I have ever watched I considered this canon

[@debastiansebeste]

Thank you, glad to hear it! 😁

[@manufacturedfromabove79]

Thank to this video I now think of a AU where instead of killing Gregory edgeworth Manfred vk decided to target chief prosecutor Blaise wonder how much the entire plot of ace attorney would change if that were to happen

[@debastiansebeste]

Someone else had told me of their AU fanfic where exactly that happened. I imagine the world would be vastly different but still it would be a better place without Blaise Debeste, that's for sure. Lol

[@crescent_sun482]

​@@debastiansebeste do you know where it is? Even if you don't have a link, I'm sure I could find it with a website. Is it on AO3?

[@debastiansebeste]

@@crescent_sun482 unfortunately it's been a whole year since I said that so I don't remember anymore, sorry 😅

[@BlackAce5ds]

I also liked you used content from Ace Attorney such as the flashback about Von Karma's conversation with Blaise.

[@debastiansebeste]

It's details like this that help with the immersion. Since Manfred's dialogue with the unnamed chief prosecutor existed there was no way I'd leave it out of the vid :p

[@thattimestampguy]

2:39 The Actual lines from AA-1 DL-6 3:12 Gregory wanted Von Karma to be Disbarred. 3:47 What about the fact Prosecutor Von Karma - Forgeried an Autopsy Report! 4:17 “Are you threatening me?” 7:33 Perfect record… ruined 😠 Edgeworth! 7:50 Blaise Debeste inner monologue 8:11 Gregory Edgeworth 😢😭 8:18 Losing The Trial of Jeffrey Masters due to forged evidence. 8:32 I Failed 8:38 (… I’m sorry… Miles…)

[@Mad_Man_With_A_Box]

I can't agree with commentators more, you know. That's really, really good and can be considered as possible canon. Also, I send to you some tips about upscaling in DM of Discord, maybe you need it. I can help you, if you want it. Thanks for video!

[@debastiansebeste]

Many thanks! I constantly forget that DMs are a thing in Discord xD

[@EvilBender555]

Woah this feels so legit. Great job 👍

[@Junweitrustnobody1403]

this is a wonderful video, the story fits so well to AA games.

[@debastiansebeste]

My aim is to make my vids as canon-like as possible, so I'm glad to hear that! Thanks 😁

[@Junweitrustnobody1403]

@@debastiansebeste your welcome, i can't wait to see more of your work

[@leokicklighter8287]

Exceptional. I'll just be downloading a copy with credit attached for use in any future playthroughs that involve an audience.

[@TheBattleCatsMola]

Debeste storytelling fr

[@kayday323]

thank you this is so goooooood

[@debastiansebeste]

*insert Edgeworth bow animation* 😁

[@Toshineko]

When even Manfred Von Karma gets intimidated by Blaise Debeste, you KNOW he is that good of a villain.

[@bigwoke686]

I like the way you write the characters

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks, Big Smoke! 😁

[@nintengy64]

This is very well made.

[@Sevant]

This is so fascinating to watch it feels so realistic

[@debastiansebeste]

Glad you like it! 😁

[@milesedgeworth1208]

.........Good grief, magnificent writing, however I'm wondering how I got here.

[@debastiansebeste]

I mean, it's Gregory's big moment, makes sense his son would be here xD Welcome and thanks btw 😁

[@Monhamd1000]

Ace Attorney players wouldn't get a fuss after getting a penalty though lol

[@debastiansebeste]

Karma was probably the kind of player to stream a blind no-penalty run, and destroy everything at the first penalty :p

[@Monhamd1000]

@@debastiansebeste Sounds kind of petty tbh.

[@debastiansebeste]

@@Monhamd1000 petty could easily be von Karma's middle name 😅

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

@@debastiansebeste I think Franziska wants to tryhard Wright into submission just to get her win streak. Unfortunately, Wright isn't having it and only gave her a win after her 3rd case with him which doesn't really help because its just giving back the little girl her lollipop after a few hours ago of snatching it from her.

[@debastiansebeste]

@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx tbh, just like with her papa and Edgeworth, Franziska was doing fine as a prosecutor until she came against Wright. That was when the defeat streak started xD

[@astrobookwormsinger]

I absolutely love this one and the sequel, Mia and Miles talking. I have so much to say dkdjddkss do you have any social media? I want to ask you a few questions about things (I'm writing my own fic around this case so I don't want to comment about it in public) and your ideas about them if that's okay? Either way, great video! Just a bit confused why Damon got a younger sprite in the sequel when Blaise and Manfred didn't, seeing as - I know it's hard to believe - they're all the same age, Damon possibly a year younger but by just a year.

[@debastiansebeste]

To be honest, I didn't bother making a younger Von Karma because the Investigations 2 game itself didn't make a younger Von Karma in the first place. So I guessed the canon Manfred was already grey haired in 2000. But I couldn't imagine Gant being all white haired at the time, just my personal preference :p As for Debeste, his face is sort of covered by his glasses and his huge fake beard and hair, so he seems younger than what he is xD I'm on Discord if you want. Do you have a discord?

[@astrobookwormsinger]

@@debastiansebeste Yes i do! Mine is AstroBookwormSinger#8710

[@debastiansebeste]

@@astrobookwormsinger cool

[@SonicSanctuary]

mand you could fool someone into thinking this this real with how spot on this is.

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks mate 😁

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

+Debastian Sebeste I think someone convinced Miles into meeting his father again in order for him to understand the whole truth of his death just to have Ms. Maya channel him so that his indifference to Spirit Channeling would finally cease.

[@debastiansebeste]

You're about to spoil the content of one of my next vids xD

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

@@debastiansebeste Oh my

[@ACEATTORNEYANDMHABRAINROT]

This is amazing, the first time that i watched this i thought it was canon until like halfway through.

[@debastiansebeste]

Thank you 😁

[@Toshineko]

This is what I consider to be canon. It is THAT good!

[@5yv5k99]

7:50. I doubt there is a reason for DL-6 anymore since Manfred should be angry at Blaise not Gregory. But who knows. And the video itself is a masterpiece!

[@debastiansebeste]

Yeah Manfred should have realized who his real enemy was, but then again he was too blinded by the fact that Edgeworth beat him at his own game Glad you liked it mate! 😁

[@5yv5k99]

@@debastiansebeste You are welcome)

[@stere0plyr2]

Absolutely loved it. Damn this was good.

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks 😁

[@crescent_sun482]

I'm sorry this was a beautifully made video with such a wonderful storyline that I accept as hc but the only thing I could think about was- is von Karma wearing eyeliner?! Seriously the lines around his eyes are either thicker than most other characters' sprites or I'm hallucinating

[@debastiansebeste]

Thanks mate! Well, that's the way his sprites are drawn in the Investigations duology, I suppose it's for stylisation reasons or something to make him look evil rather than actual eyeliner (or so I wanted to believe xD)

[@crescent_sun482]

​@@debastiansebeste Well, the man already wears earrings, maybe he's just, uh, in touch with his feminine side, lol? He has to look perfect for court, after all! All joking aside, you did a really good job on this video! You wrote Gregory exceptionally well and I love the idea that Miles's NGHOOOH! was a learned behavior from Manfred and not his biological dad.

[@yokaipinata1416]

*Spoilers for Mia's law school years* . . . . . I hadn't gotten around to seeing this one. Now I understand better why Mia reminded Blaise of Gregory. It's nice to see that you made a nod to one of your oldest videos in your latest one-- it's always nice when creators don't forget about their early work! ❤

[@debastiansebeste]

Great attention and very good catch, thank you 😁

[@tellmetodeletemijncomment]

You know i always have this curious question 🤔 Why? Did gregory bring his son during trials after all he is related to him, if the mother probably well died (mabye lazy purposes of the writers) he could have hired a babysitter to take care of him. So why didnt he do it? Oh and by the way i like how fitting you fanfiction is, i can tell there is passion and love you put into this and im glad you're channel exist.

[@debastiansebeste]

Well, I imagine Miles wanted to be there to watch his father's trials, since he wanted to be a defense attorney himself from early on Also thanks 😁

[@jamespreston4211]

Debeste’s remix is EPIC PLS give download or link

[@jamespreston4211]

Also debeste code + background if possible?

[@debastiansebeste]

@@jamespreston4211 lmfao ok, here's the Blaise superpack xD Code: DTYMSK Background: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/862317388305268787/1066084627686641804/mapVS10_Grand_Tower_P.I.C._Meeting_Room.png Theme: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804113602826993688/888452448635740241/16._Prosecutorial_Investigation_Committee__Rigorous_Justice.mp3

[@jamespreston4211]

@@debastiansebeste Debeste super pack 😂

[@jamespreston4211]

As you can tell, I think he’s epic

[@badrinath5306]

Manfreds penalty was in court though........

[@debastiansebeste]

Nah. Not really. The chief prosecutor gave it to him, not a judge, which means it most probably wasn't in court

[@carebear91]

I absolutely consider this canon

[@mary_bblueraven]

the last part with gregory what if i kms

[@fk456-cr4z1]

This video was really well written and all, but there's just one snall thing that bothers me, yknow? In the fan translation blaise would be constantly using "ysee" and "yknow", you see. So its just a teeny bit disappointing to see such trait absent in his speeches, yknow?

[@debastiansebeste]

Kek, I'm afraid you missed some parts from the second half of the video xD 5:08, 5:40, 5:49, 5:52, 6:11 are some timestamps with his y'knows and y'sees that I can find at first glance Main reason I had Debeste not say anything like that while Gregory was present was because I wanted to show that he'd act kinda serious in front of Edgeworth. Like how he did in front of the P.I.C when he was speaking to Courtney for the trial of Edgeworth in AAI2-4

[@fk456-cr4z1]

Oh shit oops

[@adankpancake]

what character code did you use for blaise? none of the ones i found seem to work

[@debastiansebeste]

Take mine. DTYMSK It's the one by Darksoner on Discord, but I have added a couple custom poses of my own

[@adankpancake]

@@debastiansebeste thanks!

[@debastiansebeste]

@@adankpancake no probs

[@ivanthehighman177]

Canon in my eyes.

[@badd7407]

This alnog with own blood whiping make up for fact Phoenix didnt took jab on him.

[@jamespreston4211]

Debeste code pls?

[@debastiansebeste]

Another one asked and I answered, but nvm. DTYMSK by Darksoner on Discord. Has a couple custom poses that I have added as well

[@kayday323]

I Love ace attorney is my favorite franchise

[@debastiansebeste]

Yeah I love it too, such a good world with great characters

[@da_kracken8879]

Rrggh blaise debeste...