Manipulative Woman Lies About Having Cancer-Judge Left Furious!

[@Alwaysgetalawyer]

That fake, whiny, half-crying voice is a sure indication she is still lying and manipulating. Send her to prison.

[@psweeneyville]

I know. I had to skip some of her statement.

[@JordanEmede_376]

She 100% did not donate that money 😂

[@kenthesparky178]

She is just saying what she thinks the court wants to hear ,she is a manipulator of the highest order.

[@colinnz]

The cancer thing makes me so angry. Who in the hell would lie about that? That alone deserves jail. So many families suffer from cancer

[@amandapanda7878]

agreed

[@30yearsoldiam1]

Addicts lie about everything. You can have a special personal bias about cancer but the law should not.

[@LaurieZ]

Two time breast cancer fighter here. Every single day I battle the effects of treatment from five years ago.

[@senorhayomayo]

She’s addicted to doing what she wants when she wants to. Take away that freedom, fix the problem.

[@luckystar8590]

🎯‼👏👏👏

[@auracruz6211]

I'm a Breast Cancer survivor, and still dealing with many side effects due to treatment. And one is Cellulitis of the female breast which causes the skin on your breasts to look like they are burned. And it can happen in a blink of an eye, which always Guarantees me a couple of days in the hospital to be treated with aggressive antibiotics. Something is just the left breast sometimes is just the right, sometimes is both and sometimes it goes all the way down to my abdomen. And is not a fun trip..! 😢 She didn't donate that money, I bet she kept it, and was living life. What a disrespect to Cancer Survivors and those who are going through cancer right now. We did the time, and still doing some time. she did the crime..! 😠😠😠 She needs to be held accountable for her actions. To survivors, and those going through it today, STAY STRONG..! 🙏❤👍

[@lizcoddington4421]

There is NO WAY this lady should have access to a company card/money?? I hope her employers see this before she robs them blind

[@alisong2328]

I agree. I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that! 😮

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

@@alisong2328 I don't believe anything she says

[@jens2old2care]

She ran a fraudulent fundraiser and then she supposedly donated the funds? Umm, got a receipt?

[@TnGaRealtor]

Bet she kept every penny! A person created a gofundme on my behalf when I had NH Lymphoma & kept the proceeds. But I knew she was up to no good & I requested she shut it down quickly to protect the public. Unfortunately some had already donated before I was able to catch it.

[@luckystar8590]

She gets no empathy here‼😡 My dear uncle passed away from the most painful pancreatic cancer. I miss him so very much!

[@klvoshall6799]

I'm so sorry about your Uncle. Sending gentle hugs to you and your family ❤

[@juliaparker6371]

My dad passed from lung cancer and my best friend's dad, whom I considered my second dad, passed from melanoma that started in his eye and spread. This makes me mad that people like her do this.

[@djjamison6548]

I had cancer stage Four, I fought like hell to beat it. I had to go on SSD and got paid on the 3rd of the month $680.00. I had no one throw me a chairty or come give me $$$. These kind of cases really pees me off.

[@mariroberts231]

I pray you doing well.

[@chelseamae7191]

🙏🙏

[@robinjohnson9915]

Prayers to you and your cancer struggle. God bless you and your family!

[@Jill-K]

So glad you won that fight😊

[@liveformybabies1190]

Nobody knows how to pay their own way anymore. Gofundme for everything.

[@33roses]

Judge’s opinions on mental health professionals and remote sessions is so antiquated. There’s always pros and cons of everything but he can’t give a blanket generalization that they’re just out to get money; many of us truly care and assist individuals to overcome a multiple of struggles and improve their wellbeing.

[@lizcoddington4421]

Agreed! Maybe they shouldn’t allow people with history of addiction to get addictive medicines prescribed that way but virtual appts for therapy saved my life (even before COVID) bc I wasn’t physically able to attend in person but it didn’t mean I didn’t need therapy! (Needed it even more tbh).

[@lizcoddington4421]

Plus, let’s not pretend addicts haven’t been manipulating doctors in person for years. That’s the issue. Not anything else.

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

Agree but the Judge's point is why would she be prescribed Suboxone which is an opioid when she claims she was drug free for several years prior. The Judge has had this defendant before him over 8 years and is not happy with this defendant's lies and manipulative behaviors but understands that she's an addict which is a disease ..... I'm very impressed with this Judge

[@davidprince1138]

I had met a fellow who was a friend of a good friend of mine. Apparently, he was addicted to several substances (xanax, opiates) and would travel to a "cancer care" hospital for chemo. He had fooled his wife, children and friends. This went on for a couple years. When he attempted to come clean, he had confessed to everyone. Everyone had supported him with finances and emotional support for years. Everyone was utterly stunned and all shunned any further relationship with him, except for my friend. He ended up dying from an DUI accident (no on else hurt). I bowled with a fellow who was addicted to gambling and he called me at 2 am begging for money for medicine for his young son. I gave him $200, but that was only a small amount compared to others. He lost his wife, family and belongings. He was a jerk.

[@jjw1126]

Hate when they use AA terms as a crutch to continue bad behavior.

[@mharris5047]

AA as far as courts are concerned is a joke. In Michigan there is no "secretary", you literally have another attendee sign your slip and take to court as "proof". Since there is no way to determine that the signatures are real (no phone number or address is taken) the court can't question it. Even AA groups with enough money to hire an employee aren't going to hire a secretary, my father was actually hired by an AA group to open and close the facility they rented and keep it clean (it was an old time office above a small store, maybe 500 square feet total for the office space -- I don't even know how the AA group could afford the rent and to pay my father), honest attendees on probation or parole would have him sign the slip since he was an employee (technically, they met twice a week and he might have had ten hours into it weekly, IIRC they paid him $100 a week in the early 1980's) but no one from the courts ever tracked him down to verify a signature. People that lied and forged the signatures might have signed his name or some random person's name -- maybe even Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck. I know this from my father's experience with working for the AA group and from a couple of "friends in low places". My father could do this because he had the family logging business and could slip away from work at 4 or 5pm twice a week to go open and close the AA group's office and spend part of a Saturday or Sunday cleaning the office for the next meeting.

[@cherylsabol387]

Both my brothers died from cancer and my Aunt & and Uncle died from cancer🤬. It’s disgusting that anyone would lie about having cancer. Addiction & mental health is NO excuse.

[@joycehorstmann2634]

She’s pitiful but needs to be in prison.

[@cathypoags9054]

Bless you true cancer survivors. How criminal to lie about having this disease and manipulate all🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@margjennings1414]

It would be interesting what the judge would find. If he asked the charity how much she donated as she says, she donated to a charity. They should have a record of the donation.

[@tankmlee]

the dangerous thing about this lady is that, if the judge wasn't there i would 100% believe her, she is an expert in telling lies through omission and telling the truth otherwise. I applaud this judge for cutting through to the truth, everything she says is essentially a lie, but she believes it right now

[@owenhuyFR01]

She's so argumentative without really taking responsibility for everything she has done. She is far from dealing with her issues and she's still deeply in the throes of addiction and criminality. She has fooled many people around her but luckily not the judge.

[@Brian1Graves]

She's still trying to manipulate the judge.

[@sedanosable]

This judge sees right through her bs...I really hope she gets the help she needs but she must be held accountable...

[@alunchurcher7060]

I am a psychologist I never see a client online, it's called ethics. With clients who need an appointment they either need to come see me at my clinic or i'll go to them at their home. The face to face contact isn't just about what the client says it's about what their bodies are telling me through body language. One on one face to face meetings are vital for treatment, Who knows today someone just might be after the prescription if I write one to exchange for their drug of choice, which I know occurs. One thing I do insist on is a blood test which informs me they are not drug addicts and it also informs me they are taking medication I prescribe. You can refuse this test but you will require a different psychologist as I won't see them. There is no way i'd write a prescription for anyone I've never met face to face at least a dozen occasions.

[@TannilleBrown]

When did psychologists start being able to write prescriptions?

[@alunchurcher7060]

@@TannilleBrown Here in the UK it was 2022 and it was earlier in the states around the year 2000 or earlier.

[@Faesharlyn]

Maybe you need a therapist to help you move into the present. There's no reason you need to be in the same room as your client unless you want to touch or smell them. You can see everything you need to see, including how they keep their home, which is a better indication of a person's mental health than the words they say through the camera. It also allows people who wouldn't be able to physically get to the office the opportunity to benefit from your experience and knowledge. Nothing to be afraid of, it's just change. I hope you get the help you need to be a better therapist, from your comment it appears that you're dedicated to your work.

[@TannilleBrown]

@@alunchurcher7060Almost no psychologists are allowed to write prescriptions in the US. There are about three states that allow some who have completed special training but in the US psychologists are used to diagnose and treat mental illness through therapy.

[@nb-user25]

There’s nothing wrong with seeing psychologists or psychiatrists online. It works for so many people. Even psychologists and psychiatrists who meet face to face are manipulated or make mistakes with their patients.

[@aimeeshatto9504]

I lost my mom to cancer. There's a special place in hell for those who lie about Cancer.

[@amandapanda7878]

agree

[@tomcat9506]

I don’t know how you guys manage ( financially) in America, in Australia you’d receive close to the $600 in a week! Not month! You do the right thing all your life, work hard then if you become seriously unwell what happens? What if you don’t have family support.? 🤍bless you 🤍

[@psweeneyville]

How can someone hire her and entrust her with a company car and credit card with a gambling & drug addictions? That’s pretty daring!! 😱😱

[@jens2old2care]

I would agree that jail time isn't necessarily effective for helping addicts. But jail time can be appropriate simply as a consequence for violating probation.

[@drn13355]

They always say they "take responsibility" until the judge says they are going to jail. Then suddenly they argue. She is still lying. She is still trying to minimize and manipulate. Even the fake crying and whining is manipulation.

[@mharris5047]

That is the gist of my impression, too. She was on probation for one crime then committed two more????? She is lucky she didn't land her (expletive) in prison for a substantial time. Even 180 days in jail is a sweet deal for a scheme to defraud individuals (which she would probably do in prison, too, it is called a confidence scheme where women take pictures of themselves, have them posted online to attract men and tell eight guys she wants to date/marry them at the same time to get money on their books for candy money). She had that sentence held in abeyance, if she does what she is supposed to for three months she won't do a day of it. I hope the cops and jail guards think she is cute in prison orange and cuffs because my gut tells me she is going to the Lake County, Ohio County Jail and Punishment Center.

[@psweeneyville]

I don’t believe she donated the fundraising money.

[@salemjehane]

Should have given her 4 years

[@wrjsn231]

A lot of the road to recovery is accepting consequences for behavior!

[@Bexar-p6f]

MANIPULATION personified. Ridiculous! The shaky voice doesn’t cut it.

[@alniahjohnson8494]

If she started suboxone that means she was using heroin... they don't just give you suboxone after 4 years of no opioid. Also, suboxone has 2 drugs in it 1 is the opioid, the second blocks the high effect...

[@carolinesharpe5059]

I WISH they took Drunk Drivers as seriously as. It’s the same damn thing!!

[@jillionairess]

Well, gee, if her boyfriend still loves her I guess we're all here for nothing.

[@randythompson2681]

Are you saying you are interested in dating her? I don't think that she is a woman that you or me could ever trust.

[@Lomojo31]

​@randythompson2681 um...i think clearly they were being sarcastic that her attorney said that as if it was part of their defense argument. Ie..gee Judge her boyfriend still loves her so obviously this is just a minor hiccup.

[@angieinphoenix]

As a recovering addict, it isn't implausible that if you are having urges to use heroin/opiates that they would prescribe Suboxone to reduce the urge-even if you've been sober for years. That's the point of taking the medication. I'm not sure what shady things she's up to but I just wanted to speak to the assumptions of the judge when it comes to Suboxone. In her case, it looks like she just replaced one addiction with another. Also, I feel like she's being fairly honest with him, even if it makes her look bad. And her lawyer is such a good advocate for her. She's lucky to have him.

[@meesh6257]

If you look at some of the other cases he’s presided over, you can clearly see he’s got a ton of disdain for suboxone. He essentially says it’s replacing one drug for another. Idk 🤷‍♀️

[@latoyaglvr]

That's not true. It is prescribed for that purpose. If there's history like that, she would definitely be put on Suboxone. The alternative is she would go use. It's done all the time. I am a recovering addict who uses Suboxone and I know it's used for that purpose. She's actually believable to me an addict in recovery who used heroin for 20 years.

[@latoyaglvr]

He doesn't understand Suboxone. I feel sorry for her for being treated like this for trying to help herself with the things available to us. He's disgusting. I hate this judge for not being open minded on the telemedicine front. She did what she could. I'm disgusted.

[@Dee-743]

It is replacing one for another.

[@angieinphoenix]

I was taking 20 fentanyl a day. I've been clean for a year with no relapses because I get a monthly injection of Sublocade (same medication basically) and it's completely taken the urge away. The alternative would be methadone which is definitely something you could abuse or I most likely would have relapsed. The dosage is being tapered off as I go so it won't torture me with withdrawals. Until you've been an addict, especially for over a decade like me, you can't really speak to it. Everyone is entitled to an opinion though, I guess.

[@DutchieThePitty]

As far as I know, here in NY, u can't get Suboxone virtually. You have to have weekly counseling and random drug testing...

[@jens2old2care]

Same in CA. I got clean from a decade-long opioid addiction using methadone. IF it's utilized correctly, it can work. But yes, I am drug screened at random, and counseling is required.

[@mharris5047]

@@jens2old2care The rules for methadone are much stricter than for suboxone. Ironically, a pain doc can prescribe methadone for pain without anything more than quarterly office visits and the occasional psych evaluation, X-Ray or MRI.

[@DutchieThePitty]

@jens2old2care exactly...and congrats to u🤗

[@stormygal67]

She’s a first class manipulator and has managed to manipulate this judge as well.

[@alisong2328]

So, in her attorney's opinion, nobody should go to prison if it won't address their issues? Seriously? 😮

[@Simply.panda630]

Seems loke she took a lot of psychology or "counseling" terms and twists them for her benefit.

[@daynasafranek7807]

I’m a recovering alcoholic (15 years), and I think gambling addiction is the worst. Glad to hear she is working and promises to pay, but she learned nothing from AA. I can tell because she’s not accountable for a damn thing. Edit: I say AA, but any program would have steps that require self reflection and accountability of behavior.

[@corunmila1]

The jury box looks like its from minecraft

[@Whitey2716]

That’s why the law nerd community names this “Minecraft court” 😂

[@Lomojo31]

Yeah..i have a relative who would say they only robbed people because they didnt want to keep asking family for money. Isnt that so thoughtful of them? Lmao..ridiculous level of justification.

[@x3213xxx]

THAT VOICE IS FN TORTURE

[@kenthesparky178]

I wish I could give you a thousand thumbs up ,it is like chalk on a board.

[@dianapaxton6373]

She also has a lying addiction!

[@Dee-743]

The number of people here who excuse her says so much.

[@amandapanda7878]

my mom and dad have colon cancer.shame on you!

[@mharris5047]

I hope and pray that your mother and father can get their colon cancer into remission. My mother died from what they thought started as colon cancer but we don't know for sure because by the time it was caught it was already in several other organs. I am not sure if it actually started in her colon or not, I don't think the doc she had was that great at his job.

[@idparkinson]

Stop with the fake voice, it’s so embarrassing

[@animal_cookie]

Telehealth appointments have helped me continue to see amazing specialists when I moved across the state. Telehealth primary care helps to reduce the health care burden for routine appointments and refills. I've sat in plenty of doctor's offices with less care than I've gotten over a zoom call. Maybe judge has never had the shameful experience of dragging yourself to a doctor's office to have a doctor not take vitals, lay hands on you, or even make eye contact then tell you to take an advil and come back if you die.

[@auracruz6211]

Where was the justice, 😠 she basically got away with a slapped on the wrist, and I'm sure that was not her first rodeo..! That judge was not furious at all. 😠

[@mharris5047]

She was on probation when she committed this offense. She had also been to prison before. This was not her first or second rodeo. I don't have the information at hand but I bet this was her tenth or greater rodeo.

[@jens2old2care]

Suboxzone and methadone CAN be effective with addiction. But they can also be abused, for sure. At the end of the day, if you're committed to getting clean, these drugs can help. But they also require random drug screening and counseling. I hate when i hear people dismiss these programs as "just another drug." Addiction is difficult and messy. But people who really work at it and commit to the process CAN get clean.

[@suzannewestRN]

I wish I could say I'm shocked, but as an old ER RN, I'm not... she is still being 'prescribed' drugs that she has NO business putting into her system for all kinds of BS reasons. There's an old saying that if you can't feel it, you can't heal it... so numbing her 'anxiety' and other issues is just another way Doctors and pharmacies keep maintaining their customer base. Disgusting!

[@Dee-743]

It is typical. Replace one drug for another.

[@binghamtonblows]

It's called harm reduction you goobers and it's literally been proven time and time again to work infinitely better than cold turkey

[@mharris5047]

The Xanax is quite addictive to the right person. A doc told me that Xanax is the most addictive benzo and when they were necessary she would prescribe a longer acting benzo like Valium or Ativan. I won't take them unless they are used during a surgery because they are known to be highly addictive for an alcoholic as they tickle the same receptor in the brain. I don't know if heroin addiction makes someone more susceptible to benzodiazepine addiction but if I had a scary ride through heroin and gambling addiction I would be reluctant to take benzos. Of course I can take pain medication as prescribed without any issue and have for years for a severe back injury but from what I can gather alcohol and opioids don't tickle the same receptors in the brain. Whether opioids and benzos happen to tickle one of the same receptors (opioids and benzos tickle multiple receptors) in the brain is the question here.

[@djjones7226]

There are many factors involved in appropriate sentences and one of them is punishment. All considered *if she had not lied about having cancer* I might have more sympathy for her. The fact that she fabricated a cancer diagnosis and then took advantage of everyone around her to include taking money from fund raisers confirms to me that she indeed needs a prison term. There are people who really do have cancer and they, along with their loved ones, are suffering! Let her make her bs amends to *them* by sitting behind bars! I had a very difficult time even listening to this woman. Her forced, fake, whiny voice made me cringe and it was seriously nothing more than just more of her *manipulation!*

[@mharris5047]

This judge fell for it, too. Her probation should have been revoked and she should have went up on what remained of that 54 months plus a consecutive sentence for conning those two AA members.

[@mommadirt3557]

OM, this! This highlights the total failures in our mental health system, our physical health care system, our social service system, and criminal system. The generational cycles, the addiction shifting, the greed, the irresponsibility. The decision makers and society as a whole need to do better for our children to head off and work to break these cycles. Once an addict always an addict. You have to learn and use tools to recognize and mitigate those impulses. Addiction recovery is a life long process. The Judge is correct there are many short comings with telemed services and you have to take responsibility. The problem is being in a state where you can recognize this.

[@alisong2328]

And mh treatment is prohibitively expensive. Insurance only covers a fraction of the cost for most people.

[@mommadirt3557]

Yes! there are so many obstacles in trying to walk a path to recovery.

[@psweeneyville]

I don’t believe she has a prescription for Suboxon.

[@Nefertiti0403]

She’s rambling too much 🤦🏻‍♀️ get to the point. The Judge does not care about your excuses

[@daynasafranek7807]

She said she was going to pay her victims back, in full, several times. Was that what you meant?

[@yvonneconte3040]

What bs story about suboxone!! So many holes in the story. Not how its prescribed and followed/maintained

[@th3angry_redhead72]

Online docs are not legally allowed to prescribe controlled meds i thought. Didn't she say she's on Xanax from an online dr? Or was it a diff one?

[@yvonneconte3040]

Suboxone, and not subscribed online

[@animal_cookie]

I think she said it was her psychiatrist who she sees in person once a year, telehealth just allows regular visits when they live across the state

[@DutchieThePitty]

She's lying

[@jackyparrott]

It would help her to do a 12 step study at less a few times. I have come to understand that a gambling addiction is one of the hardest one to stop. She should know that we are sick as our secrets. I like this judge.

[@lizcoddington4421]

This is my beef with the AA/NA model of treating addiction because addicts use the idea “I am powerless over my addiction” as an EXCUSE to keep behaving like an addict - like here just changing the drug of choice “because I’m an addict.” Nope. Still have power to choose not to rob someone of $20 to play the slots. Maybe prison will help her know that. Who knows.

[@michaelhaiden6718]

who would consider her for a wife ?

[@darrengladstone3159]

I know someone that did this. Might have even had a fundraiser.

[@Justme-y6c]

This Judge is behind the times, virtual Doctor visits happen every day, virtual therapy happens everyday as well

[@cathypoags9054]

I have MS and during Covid had virtual even with Neurology.

[@Whitey2716]

Her constant 😂fort into trying to sound like she’s Hindu g back tears THE WHOLE hearing is driving me insane

[@gibbons9599]

Remind me to never accidentally walk on this judge's lawn or be seen walking around texting near him.

[@Lysurgic]

yay minecraft court

[@yvonneconte3040]

😅

[@euniceloy7120]

If she broke her probation, I would want to know, did she willingly turn herself? If somebody broke probation, and only after being arrested for that, then begs for mercy, I don't believe they should receive any. Regardless of how they may have changed their lives, they broke their promise, and they knew what they were doing when they did so and they should go to jail for that.

[@nb-user25]

Sorry, remote medical appointments are not laziness. It is not the dumbest thing ever and it is not ineffective. That’s the same sentiment from people who think working remotely isn’t possible. The judge is right, he’s not a psychiatrist, a psychologist, or a drug counselor. Now, with that said, I agree this woman getting addictive drugs with her background from an online call is a different story. She needs a long-term medical professional .

[@lyndavandusen1540]

I like this judge

[@janessap1739]

She def could’ve manipulated Suboxone, but that judge was absolutely wrong about what he said… Doctors who prescribe Suboxone unless there is a damn good reason always prescribe it the first time because they know how utterly important it is to get off the opiate and as fast as possible… I work with a Suboxone doctor and that is what they do! He needs to get more knowledgeable before he starts talking about certain subjects…SMDH!!

[@janessap1739]

I do just want to add that if a doctor knows that you are NOT addicted to an opiate at the time of your visit, they will absolutely not prescribe Suboxone… there is legit no reason to! So that’s the only part that is a little bit sketchy here…but I’m still only about 15 mins into the video…so maybe this will get explained ❓🤷🏻‍♀️

[@milodemoray]

This woman, and her manipulation is one thing and I agree completely that she must be dealt with. However, what medical degree does this judge have? Addiction is addiction, the core of addiction does not discriminate as to what form it eventually takes. There is no proof that a person who has this condition, only sticks to one thing, be it gambling, drug use, alcohol or whatever.

[@JohnDoe-hj3ef]

Does anyone know the name of this judge?

[@MrMichaelbsmith6420]

Osmosis judge??? When you have an addiction problem judge then and only then will I believe you and your osmosis theories because if you haven't gone through it yourself you will never understand how it takes a hold of everything in your life until there's nothing left

[@tracymarks8677]

🙄

[@jens2old2care]

Seems like this judge has some issues with virtual healthcare. Welcome to the American Healthcare system, sir. We aren't choosing the ways in which we access care. We are taking what we can get. I have Kaiser. Sometimes, a phone or video appt is the ONLY available option. No doubt this defendant has serious issues and has done some bad shit. But getting on her for the ways in which healthcare is run is just silly. That being said, she is for sure manipulating the system and those around her.

[@Nefertiti0403]

11:06 I honestly Think this Judge is over thinking this. He’s used to being right. It’s absolutely Needed to get off opiates! He’s pissing me OFF I CANNOT WATCH ANYMORE

[@MrPither999]

You have been manipulated. She's good at it and you fell for it.

[@Nefertiti0403]

@ Wrong child. 99% of the time I agree with the Judge, THIS TIME HE REALLY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. WE ARE ALL HUMAN. NOBODY IS RIGHT ALL THE TIME. It Does not Happen. IMPOSSIBLE

[@Nefertiti0403]

@ WHY ARE YOU SO BUTT HURT ANYWAY? All I Said was He isn’t right this time and this time he REALLY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. Nothing wrong with that. As I stated…Child…NOBODY ON THIS EARTH CAN BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME

[@Lomojo31]

​@@Nefertiti0403 why the capital letter screaming mode? Take it down a notch. Geez. People have differing opinions about addiction treatment..including professionals..medical, social, psychological, etc. So clearly noone has the one and only right answer..or as you'd say it..they are all wrong. The only thing that's absolutely true is you won't get addicted to what you don't use/do. Still so many people decide to use drugs or gamble or whatever and take the risk..and then justify all the crap they pull because they are addicts. Don't be mad because the Judge probably is so sick of seeing and hearing it.

[@Arquis001]

While she is obviously not trustworthy… judge needs to stay in his lane. He isn’t a medical expert. He’s a judge. If he was capable of being a doctor he’d have gone to med school, not law school.

[@jillionairess]

My husband is an attorney who loves the law and never desired to be a doctor. Why are you mad at the educated?

[@Arquis001]

@ I’m not mad at the educated. This judge (and your husband) are in fact *not* educated in medicine. It would be foolish to talk with such confidence like he did and really makes me question the judges ability to self reflect and think beyond his gut instinct.

[@tankmlee]

he is the primary judge in a drug court, he can actually order people to take suboxone, he is well versed in it's use and methods, you don't need to be a doctor to be an expert on a medical topic, he probably does have training. have you looked up him up at all?

[@Arquis001]

@@tankmlee I can’t look him up since the court location and his name do not appear anywhere in the description. If he was well versed in what he was saying he would be simply stating facts and not what he “thinks” of the industry. If he said “I just participated in a seminar where they showed statistically online therapy is not successful at all” I would have a different opinion.

[@Arquis001]

@@tankmlee he also 100% cannot just order people to take a drug not already prescribed by their doctor… that has no basis in reality.

[@binghamtonblows]

Nevermind anything about this dumb lady but hearing this judge have a total non-understanding about suboxone shows how much old jurists gotta go

[@mimiprays8288]

Doctors push zoom meetings so they can't be bothered to really talk to someone. They all want zoom meetings and agreements to take medications when prescribed..smh

[@JellyFin-t9w]

Lol you are supposed to take your meds as prescribed bud

[@hellboip7876]

Maybe it's different in america but where I am the doctor has a list of things that require in person visits and otherwise it's OPTIONAL for a phone/video call if you prefer. It's way easier to just do a 5 min phone appt and still have all rhe same prescription info

[@knickybarnes]

Her attorney is just as much as a freaking scammer as she is. His arguments are pathetic. And amateurish at best. He’s so freaking annoying.

[@lynne6417]

I have no respect for any judge who uses profanity in court. I don't care what a person has done. She is a POS. But he needs to be professional.

[@hellboip7876]

Man that judge has some very old school beliefs. What's wrong with zoom therapy as long as it works? He even said "unfortunately, i have to rely on psychiatrists/psychologists/medical experts because they perpetuate themselves" that is weirdly doomer mentality for a judge that's supposed to trust the experts lol

[@yvonneconte3040]

Certain scenarios, zoom is not helpful. This is prime example