Mannequin of the Month - Australian Infantryman, Australia, Early 1980s

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Rifleman Moore

Rifleman Moore

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@Daniel-vl8mx
@Daniel-vl8mx 3 ай бұрын
The same greens would also be starched, pressed and worn with a stable belt and Hat KFF (slouch hat), brass and boots shined up like mirrors, for parades. You'd hit them with so much starch you had to break the trouser legs open with a broomhandle. The sleeves on the shirt would be carefully rolled to above the elbow and ironed flat, the collar (open at the neck) ironed hard flat too. Shit-hot and shiny! Ah, the memories...
@awf6554
@awf6554 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, a few points. Typically the ammo pouches would be pushed back as far as possible under the arms to facilitate prone crawling and firing. Foam rubber would often be taped to the belt inside to reduce rubbing. Up to 4 more waterbottles would be carried on the main backpack (not shown), 2 vertically on each side, giving a total of 6 litres carried. Dehydration is a significant health issue on exercise in Australia.
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 3 ай бұрын
I wore this uniform and kit in the Reserves back in the early 80,s . I kept the giggle hat when I had to return the rest of the gear. It is incredible to consider that our parade uniform was still Battledress in the early 1980,s as well.
@Reaper4367
@Reaper4367 3 ай бұрын
when i joined the Army in early '86, this was our issue, and our Platoons (15-Bravo-Male. 32 Delta-Female), were the last Platoons to march out in Battle Dress.
@rethguals
@rethguals 3 ай бұрын
Was reserves well after your time. Honestly, I have no problems at all with battle dress as parade uniform. The old-style greens were (and in my opinion, still are) a great look, and as much as I liked going on parade with my medals on and the pipe band going and such, I always hated having all the various orders of uniform: - The short sleeve ceremonial shirt and trousers was our go to for parades - There was a long-sleeve ceremonial shirt, but the exact requirements to wear it were so exact I didn't need it for years. It sat in my closest for 10 years before I needed it, by which point I got too fat for it. It was promptly thrown in a bin by my Q-store, and a fresh one issued. I wore it once in the next five years, and I got to chuck it in a dumpster the day I discharged - They gave me a woolen jumper thing for winter parades. Due to parade doctrine technicalities, I never wore the fucking thing - There was a long sleeve service dress jacket for certain parades. Never wore it once, I don't know why it existed - yet another closet stuffer - A new service dress jacket and ceremonial pants were issued in 2016 (they were a little bit browner than the previous ones... gee, thanks Army). I wore the new jacket once for a big parade, the rest of my career it sat collecting dust in the cupboard while we were ordered to wear the old short sleeve shirt with the new pants - Later, we got issued Multicam uniforms in two varieties - one for barracks, one for field. Of course, design and production of the field shirts was fucked up (leading to concerns about sun burn and skin cancer), so for a while we were forced to mix the two uniforms like weirdos
@RS-rj5sh
@RS-rj5sh 3 ай бұрын
They were still issuing battledress to the ARES in the early 1990's.... although they were never actually worn.
@davidharvey8179
@davidharvey8179 3 ай бұрын
​@@Reaper4367incorrect, I marched out late 1987 in Battledress.
@timdennis3300
@timdennis3300 3 ай бұрын
@@Reaper4367 I was a Choco in 1987 and went into the regs in 1988. We marched out of Kapooka in battledress in June of 1988.
@rosshilton
@rosshilton 3 ай бұрын
Loved the video, wore exactly this in army Reserve service from 1987 onwards. It took me back to better days when I was a young Englishman with a lot of good friends in the Reserves. (For 3 years I was on a Residency permit and was technically a Mercenary). Couple of points: The longer ammo pouches were made to hold the 30 round SLR magazine, which was used on the auto fire, tripod equiped L2A1, which was based upon the SLR rifle. 2. You are correct re extra water bottles. Most infantrymen, who would operate away from support vehicles and bases etc for some time, carried four water bottles. Sometimes these were in pairs on either side of the belt, other times they were clipped on the “belt” that ran around the middle of the “Vietnam” pack, usually on the sides. This was to avoid carrying the weight of two extra bottles when on webbing order used for patrols. Great vid and I love your work.
@davidleonard1813
@davidleonard1813 3 ай бұрын
Missing a few things. 1. Bayonet frog between left pouch and bottle And maybe. By mid 80s these were issued in use too 2. J&Johnson shell dressing 3. Compass pouch
@indoman8887
@indoman8887 3 ай бұрын
I joined in the late 60’s and it was AB boots at Kapooka and Ingleburn during infantry corp training, with GP’s being issued when you were posted to your battalion. I remember at Kapooka, the pants I was issued had a strap at waist level that was threaded through a large silver buckle to keep them up. During my tour of the “funny country”, I wore what was issued, but I was only back in Australia for short period of time before I was posted to Singapore/Malaysia for a couple of years. Here we really went to work on our webbing, with many people modifying it to their own specs. Some of us cut up webbing belts and had the sections sewn to the side of our Austpacks, which gave you the ability to carry two water bottles on the pack, although later models of this pack had these belt sections sewn to them during manufacture. In my case, I got rid of the shoulder straps (many did) and carried two water bottles on the belt plus an old Khaki Bren gun pouch on the back to carry bits and pieces. There was some weird and wonderful pieces of gear carried around the “J”, with the only rule being that it was not to fall apart while in use. Because the Brits were also there, some of their gear was even utilized. Back in Australia, I didn’t take the field jacket into the bush because it was too bulky, I would just use the khaki issue jumper of the time and the nylon camouflage rain jacket we were issued (it was bloody useless as a rain coat) over the top and folded back to waist level and it was just as effective as the jacket. When I see the gear they are issued with these days, I just shake my head in wonder, but good for them.
@seanmcardle
@seanmcardle 3 ай бұрын
Smock psychological
@andrewcombe8907
@andrewcombe8907 3 ай бұрын
The bum pack carried 1 x 24 ration pack, a hexamine stove, rain coat (smock, tropical), rifle cleaning kit, maybe a ground sheet that had been used to fit inflatable tubes as a bed set, a first aid kit and odds and sods like note pad, pen, sun cream or a pair of gloves and beanie in winter.
@1337flite
@1337flite 3 ай бұрын
Tanks Rifleman Moore - I wore this in the cadets in the 80s and the regular army in the 90s. I spent my life in the army disposal in high school. The Australian combat jacket of the 80s onward, was Australian manufactured and called a "Coat, man's field", not an M65, although it was patterned after the M65. In the Aussie army the hat is called a bush hat, not a "jungle ha"t. Very rarely you might hear giggle hat. The hat during that period was worn "bashed" the crown was tucked in around on the inside of the brim, the hat sat on your head, with just the "cam loops" veritcal above the brim. In garrision they were soemtimes ironed - even starched - flat fromt eh side so they were sort of like an upturned boat sitting on head and sometimes worn low over the eyes with the back up high, so you couldn't see the digger's eyes and the digger could only see the ground a meter or two in front of him. Fashion. 🙂 Also missing cam scarf/sweat rag which was usually plain green. The Viet Nam era sweat rag was quite thick, maybe 3mm thich and ery absorbent. Later it was just a raltively thin mesh. Re the webbing it was not unusual up until the 80s for US M1956 kit to be issued, but by the time I got to kapooka in 1989 pretty much all all the kit was Aussie manufacutred, usually by Cantas. And from early 90s or so some of the kit had plastic "hardware", like the fireld pack large and the bum pack had 25mm fastex buckles instead of the brass 3 bar buskles to fasten the lid/flap. The "toggle rope" has no toggle and was called a "rope, fibre assembly". My favourite bit of (unofficial) nomencleture of the era was the "smock, psycholoogial" - a nylon "waterproof" smock in the green and black spotch cam that some Aussie kit had. The PU coated ones were waterproof, the earlier ones witha rubber coating on the inside were less waterproof.
@MisterWG
@MisterWG 3 ай бұрын
Only one comment from me is that the term 'Giggle Hat' was very common during my service in the 80's. But yeah, never heard it called Jungle Hat.
@beertruk2429
@beertruk2429 3 ай бұрын
Standard issue when I got to Kapooka in October 1979.
@minxythemerciless
@minxythemerciless 3 ай бұрын
The common name for the equipment harness was 'Spider'. The water bottles both had stainless steel cups. The ammo pouches were usually worn wider, making it easier to go to ground. (I was a 1980s reservist)
@harleydavo1099
@harleydavo1099 3 ай бұрын
They were lean times. They ran out of uniforms and issued adhoc clothing from storage, pixie greens, odd pants and shirts . Some looked like Korean war or Malay surplus. They ran out of boots, they still issued ABs and gaiters or some just wore bloody trainers. They were lean times, but good times P.S. The green berets ( with a good bash) in barracks were brilliant.
@MichaelDobran-is7pr
@MichaelDobran-is7pr 3 ай бұрын
As an Air Force Cadet.(AIR T C) in the 80s , we wore a variety of attire to make us look " Gung- Ho" When we went on camps. This included a variety of styles from. Various nations. Most of this gear was purchased from Aussie Disposals. As kids , it was important to look cool This led to some interesting combinations. From Mick.D.
@jameslawson3876
@jameslawson3876 28 күн бұрын
Just to add to all the spot on comments from fellow diggers of that era, the early SLR training manuals identified those loops on the side of the basic pouches as being to hold the Energa anti-tank rifle grenades (which were definitely no longer in service by the 80s!) I can't speak for anyone else, but we only ever put hand grenades inside the pouches, rather than hang outside, unlike on the US ALICE ammo pouches. The basic pouches would fit the curved L4 Bren gun 30-round mags and the straight 30-round AR magazines. 20-round SLR magazines would drop a little too deep so we were told to place the rolled rifle sling at the bottom of the left hand pouch so as to lift the magazines and make them more accessible. Filled magazines were always to be placed with the ammunition facing downwards (i.e. the baseplate facing upwards)
@gpaulkarcha3830
@gpaulkarcha3830 3 ай бұрын
Great videos Rifleman Moore. I really enjoy them Keep them coming. Cheers
@Wardads1
@Wardads1 3 ай бұрын
6 years a digger and as a young lad was in the Kiwi version of the a-res , similar kit in boh.
@davidharvey8179
@davidharvey8179 3 ай бұрын
You tried to get two 'cups canteen' so you shaved/washed using one and cooked with the other.
@swifty8880
@swifty8880 3 ай бұрын
And wasn't it terrible when you mixed the two
@davidharvey8179
@davidharvey8179 3 ай бұрын
@@swifty8880 a little gritty and funny tasting :-)
@andrewcombe8907
@andrewcombe8907 2 ай бұрын
The ammo pouches in the M1956 were a pain to use as the closure tabs couldn’t be used one handed. They were based on later WW2 British/Indian army closures. There were a lot of lost SLR magazines at end ex. Also the belt had an annoying habit of popping open when crawling or doing contact drills. Lastly the clips used to secure the pouches etc to the pistol belt would shred your hips and waist on a march. I met a regular Army soldier at Holsworthy who was being medically discharged due to chronic infected ulcers on his hips and waist. His last duty with the Army was to be deployed for disaster relief after the Newcastle, NSW, earthquake. If you get a chance you might also do a video on the issued rucksack which was designed by de Sade. Most regular soldiers used privately purchased US Alice packs. We also carried the toggle rope and used it to carry water bottles on resupply. Theoretically we were meant to use the toggle rope to move dead bodies or make a bridge but I never got to do either😅 The M65 Coat, Man, Field you show was a popular piece of kit although it was really heavy and it was essential to privately purchase a quilted liner to make it warm as opposed to merely wind proof. I did an exercise in the Canberra, ACT, area with ANU Company, Sydney Uni Regiment, in late July (our winter) and without the liner would have been really uncomfortable. The two water bottles on the belt were standard but I knew a few blokes who carried four bottles on their belt in the summer time. There is no hotter and more uncomfortable place on earth in summer than Singleton, NSW, at the School of Infantry.
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 3 ай бұрын
This uniform was worn by all soldiers until the introduction of the AUSCAM. The pouches for SLR magazines. I still have my Jacket - Coat OG with cold weather liner!
@RS-rj5sh
@RS-rj5sh 3 ай бұрын
DPCU in about 1988
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 3 ай бұрын
@@RS-rj5sh only for those on Tattoo 88 - the rest of us battled on for another year ;) I got mine at the end of ‘89 and the brown boots came latter.
@RS-rj5sh
@RS-rj5sh 3 ай бұрын
@@kenfowler1980 Chokos got DPCU from about 1991. Poo Boats came in a year or two later. The "Dubbin" smelled so good....🤣
@aynjeleyes
@aynjeleyes 3 ай бұрын
I almost cried when I handed in my starched greens for jelly beans. the fact that they took a Stanley knife to them in front of me. The hours of work that went into them. That bum bag & belt is way to high, rope would get caught at the front' 2 bottles,frog, dressing
@rosshilton
@rosshilton 3 ай бұрын
Comments on here from my fellow Australians had me roaring with laughter and sympathy. The Smock psychological etc. We certainly went through a period of insanity when it came to uniforms - remember the endless new boots? I sill have Kangaroo Ass boots in the garage. Probably a few poo boots as well. Getting boots shouldn’t be that hard. Anyone remember the wool fleece jacket that didn’t last long? As soon as it was wet it stunk like a dear rat and weighed as much as an overfed RSM. They took them off us very soon after issue. And the inflatable beds with three pneumatic inserts? There was always one that leaked making the bed useless. At night you could hear the entire platoon hissing like a farting wallaby as they leaked. But weren’t they great days!
@awf6554
@awf6554 3 ай бұрын
Lol, you just reminded me of that useless mattress. I used to leave the inflating pieces behind and use the cover as a bivvy bag.
@divarachelenvy
@divarachelenvy 3 ай бұрын
loved me giggle hat... loved the Vietnam era rat packs too.
@SteveHB59
@SteveHB59 3 ай бұрын
Yep that’s what we had back in the 80’s in the ARA & AREs
@m_mitch
@m_mitch 3 ай бұрын
Is the bush hat inside out? I can't tell, my eyes aren't that good anymore.
@MicMc539
@MicMc539 3 ай бұрын
The Australian Army at this time was a sad and unhappy institution. We'd been flogged in Vietnam, protested against at Home, were littered with broken veterans and had a tiny Defence budget. About as popular with the Country as a Pork Chop in a Synagogue . DUTY FIRST.
@stevesmith9151
@stevesmith9151 3 ай бұрын
I was an Artilleryman in 4th Field Regiment 82 - 87, that looks almost exactly what I was wearing.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 3 ай бұрын
Compounded by the infection of corrupt ethics leading to war crimes in Afghanistan.
@fatmanfaffing4116
@fatmanfaffing4116 3 ай бұрын
Compared to the kit and training the Diggers get today... totally agree. I remember not being allowed to wear our Howard Green jumpers (like the Brit ones with the shoulder and elbow patches) for two weeks because the Brigade HQ mob hadn't been issued theirs! And wehen the rplaced the old sleeping bag with thenewer one around 1980! Luxury! I had originally been issued the horse blanket and silk, which I still have.
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 3 ай бұрын
Same same ARES infantry 1980, ARA Sigs then Transport from 1982 until 1993. Boots worn until they fell off etc etc. Still got my Coat OG!
@RS-rj5sh
@RS-rj5sh 3 ай бұрын
@@kenfowler1980 in the ARES in early 1990's you were issued with ONE pair of black GP Boots ...that pair of boots had to be used for everything from bush bashing in creeks and mud, and then spit shined for parade drill.....budgets were tight. The ADF of today do not know how easy they have it.
@andrewcombe8907
@andrewcombe8907 3 ай бұрын
I was in the reserves in 1986 onward and it was shit. Our NCO’s were Vietnam veterans with PTSD, alcohol addiction and wife beating problems. We were issued ration packs dated 1968 and our kit was dated and recycled plus the tactics we applied were left over from a war we lost. I would never have signed up if I knew then what I know now.
@aynjeleyes
@aynjeleyes 3 ай бұрын
How long did you stay in if it was that shit.
@andrewcombe8907
@andrewcombe8907 3 ай бұрын
@@aynjeleyes6 years as I signed up for.
@aynjeleyes
@aynjeleyes 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewcombe8907 88 to 96 41st RNSW~ 1999 ~ infantry, engineers, trying real hard to be a pog but they won't listen so currently I'm a nice alcoholic with PTSD lots of broken bits and 3 ex wifes and a new one 🤣
@jamespunch8049
@jamespunch8049 3 ай бұрын
The ARVN also used dark green plastic bottles, made in V.N.
@wayneclayson4403
@wayneclayson4403 3 ай бұрын
I still have the button Inner that kept you warm
@TennoHeikaNate_Japanon
@TennoHeikaNate_Japanon 3 ай бұрын
Another great display! I'm quite fond of these post-Vietnam/pre-1990's Aussie and NZ kits as it's quite a difficult period to find info and photos about, at least here in the US. Is that M65 a regular US contract example, or is it a Foreign Military Sales contract? I have a 1970's US-made FMS contract M65 that was sold to the IDF, the only difference other than the black ink Zahal stamps the IDF put on it is that the nomenclature tag has no contract date or number stamped on it; that line is completely blank on the tag.
@brass3019
@brass3019 3 ай бұрын
If its got Velcro closures in 1980s, its probably not US made. AS replenished the US sateen coats with a local (allegedly made in Taiwan) contract of pretty poor quality, looser weave, not waterproof and hardly water repellent, in the early 1970s.
@fatmanfaffing4116
@fatmanfaffing4116 3 ай бұрын
Ours, as far as I can recall, were Australian made, listed as Coats, Mans, Field, O.G. and identical to US M65 Field Jackets. They were made at the Commonwealth Clothing Factory, Maribynong Victoria. I was never issued the liner. We called them 'Bush Jackets'. (1977-86)
@1337flite
@1337flite 3 ай бұрын
@@fatmanfaffing4116 Agree - the combat jacket was the "Coat, Man's Field" Aussie made and not M65s in the 80s and 90s - maybe they were in earlier period.
@mabbrey
@mabbrey 3 ай бұрын
great stuff
@blacksmith67
@blacksmith67 3 ай бұрын
Except for the lack of angled upper pockets, it looks a lot like the combats that we wore in Canada in the early 1980s
@radaraacf
@radaraacf 3 ай бұрын
The angled pockets known as pixie shirts, were barracks not field variant but they did end up out bush on the odd occasion
@Daniel-vl8mx
@Daniel-vl8mx 3 ай бұрын
@@radaraacf They were pretty popular, if you could get them. A bit of a fashion statement. You'd wear them untucked, which made them comfortable in the heat
@csmdutch
@csmdutch 3 ай бұрын
Just needs the woven scarf (sweat rag) used in that period.
@94Aequitas
@94Aequitas 3 ай бұрын
My father practiced helicopter assaults jumping out of the back of trucks yelling "Bang! Bang! Bang!" In this uniform.
@MicMc539
@MicMc539 3 ай бұрын
''Bag of Bullets!!'' if you were the Section Gunner.
@kingaroykid
@kingaroykid 3 ай бұрын
I remember having to yell out “bang, bang” during exercises because we had no blank ammo. I remember a friend trundling up the field chanting “tank, tank, tank” just to piss off the instructors!
@RJVEK
@RJVEK 3 ай бұрын
Looks very old fashioned for the 80s!
@RS-rj5sh
@RS-rj5sh 3 ай бұрын
It was. Was replaced by the Camo uniform in about 1988
@swifty8880
@swifty8880 3 ай бұрын
​@@RS-rj5shwe were still issued greens in 1990 at Kapooka. One of last I believe
@m0rvidusm0rvidus18
@m0rvidusm0rvidus18 3 ай бұрын
You'll notice that every Anglo settlement ended up looking like the imperial poster, a 'global melting pot' disaster. Next time figure out what political system you're fighting for.
@wmsollenberger8706
@wmsollenberger8706 3 ай бұрын
I had the same glue problem on my M65 while serving in the USAF Auxiliary, takes hours to get that stuff off! Really enjoyed this presentation, always fond of commonwealth jungle gear, very rakish! (gotta find a decent copy of the bucket hat!)
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