Manor Lords Guide: How To Get 100% Efficient Markets & Food Strategy

[@TacticatGaming]

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[@TheVonWeasel]

my main issue is that I'll have made sure all my food stalls are owned by the granary workers. However even when there's like 300+ of every food item, half my food stalls will be empty. Literally their entire job is to run a stall and they can't even haul the berries across the street?

[@MrMirco003]

This. I cant take it anymore. 3k Food and everybody is starving, they dont gather apples or carrots from the houses as well. Just sitting there and waiting, kills my game fun

[@toomanysymbols]

yeah i'm getting seriously sick of it as well. have got 12 granary workers on it at all times and still they can't distribute the food decently across the plots

[@toomanysymbols]

i've found a solution, literally destroy almost your entire market and leave just enough stalls to fit the amount of items you need. this way they will be forced to fill them up entirely. having a little marketplace with say 15-20 stalls is much, much better than this enormous area, because they will spread your goods so thin that all they're doing is transporting and not being able to fill up a single stall entirely. let's just say the granary workers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, and you need to make it very easy for them. "me greg, i go bread market, stall 2, me friend grug also" kinda thing. also, if you notice that you haven't got room for something, find out which items are oversupplied and just manually delete the individual stalls, until they replace it with the type of stall you need

[@johansoderqvist2078]

@@toomanysymbols I have the same problem vith firewood..... So ennying

[@BiglerSakura]

Sometimes artisan families do very good job filling stalls. I built a level-3 bakery, the 4 families in it were producing enormous amounts of bread so I let them have a couple of food stalls. They were filling them much better than granary workers did theirs.

[@ashlandky62]

Actually playing and analyzing on the fly as the game evolves keeps the brain working.

[@bjaurelio]

I listened to this video this morning, and then this afternoon there's a new patch that makes food consumption random rather than using a list order. Now food will need to be much more balanced to ensure variety.

[@TacticatGaming]

Yep!

[@jpmaurice00]

Thank you for all the time you put into research for these guides. Greatly appreciated! It takes a long time to understand the "behind the scenes" game mechanics. Again, thank you!!

[@leahbiffin8432]

Thanks Tacticat. Love your work.

[@jamiehoekstra11677]

Great video bro! Thanks for that explanation.

[@springonions01]

Love the work you've put into deciphering the mechanics of ML. There'll be a new patch according to the dev so some things might change.

[@TacticatGaming]

Yep more content for me lol

[@shibity]

Laughs like a maniac at "large load of apples" but then casually throws out "the longer and thinner, the better the plow" without missing a beat. 😂

[@TacticatGaming]

That load really desensitized me

[@shibity]

@@TacticatGaming post apple clarity

[@TheHyunuklee]

this is amazing.. FYI, the order of food consumption by type will be updated on the pre-released beta version (released today). i .e., people will randomly consume, not in order starting from meat.

[@TacticatGaming]

Yep it’s finally going to work the way I thought it would

[@DavidKnight33]

Hopefully we can sell more at the auction house and stop the backup. Great content. Thanks for the updates. Haha large load ... Did you say 1 morgen in farms each of barley and wheat? How many workers per farm?

[@TacticatGaming]

4 farms at 3 workers each - 6 1 morgen for each type at 2 yielding per year

[@diddle783]

Thank you so much for the road save ;) it is really helpfull

[@clausbecker9350]

Love your fact-driven approach

[@TacticatGaming]

The patch that’s in testing will change all of this lol

[@DG-gx1qf]

Thanks for the tips lam new to this game this should get me going 🤔👍

[@shawnduffy279]

Nothing like dropping new videos and a beta patch comes out possibly addressing some issues. 🤦‍♂😂 Let the retesting begin! EDIT @1040 EDT - 140 MB DL for the patch btw.

[@TacticatGaming]

Nice yeah moarrrr content to come

[@tdotfun]

Thanks. Sounds good. Was hoping more on the specific of the market stalls. I've been trying to figure out why people don't stock their stalls. I can easily play with only 1, 3 stall market, up until ~200-300 people or tier 3 plots. Then I need to expand stall locations (aka. a new 3 stall market in a different location or add more food stalls), but they don't fill their stalls properly - ex. clothing stall opens with a storage worker, the storage has 200+ leather and 300+boots, but the stall gets filled with 5 leather (nothing more), for a long time. Curious if this would this work? 4 granary's specialized in 1 food type, one worker with 1 stall. 4 food stalls. Edit: just to clarify, it is "material/food" consumption of the availability in your market stalls, not what you own/have somewhere in your town (i.e. the top bar showing stock of goods, does not equal what your marketplace is doing, or the amount you have in storage/granary). Edit2: spelling. also adding each stall only has a capacity of 50.

[@christopher2866]

No wonder all my kids look like the egg collector

[@thurnus]

What really bothers me is that my granary workers sometimes don't even stock their stalls. They just peddle one piece of meat even though there's a bunch of food right behind them in the granary. I cannot figure out this system.

[@manuelkong10]

"my berries are in crazy mode" lol

[@rakivmoo]

They changed the 90% house pantry threshold in latest beta. Now items goes to granary / market first and then it fills up in-house.

[@silencerstudent9381]

I SELL apples and veggies and import meat and berries usually and eventually when i have a surplus of bread i sell that too. also importing tons of barley and making tons of beer and then exporting beer for 8-16$ is another really good one. import iron ore when its cheap and export weapons or tools or iron slabs but u have to closely watch as iron ore prices fluctuate rapidly. roof tiles are another. clay is cheap and the tiles sell for a decent price but u have to toggle export alot or the price crashes . when the price of shields falls export wooden parts instead. importing lambs for 10 and exporting sheep for 2 in the late game is another good passive wealth generator. obvoisly wood planks charcoal firewood and your initial wealth generators

[@Luk3c]

Great vid, it's honestly something I figured out already myself for example the one time clothing thing. But for some reason my game still doesn't work properly especially with clothing - if I have 30 plots and 30 of each type of clothing in the stalls, my houses still don't receive them. Why? I literally have to force build houses on the outskirts for the supply to go up so my inner houses get goods. Even tho my market is stocked to the amount of clothing needed for each plot, a lot of the clothes just get lost somewhere. There's proper amount in the stalls and it doesn't reach the houses. Why? Maybe do some experimenting with that on a larger scale town.

[@TacticatGaming]

No eggs = granary workers have less eggs to get - lots of little things in the design I did help

[@Sparticulous]

Do you plan to play the new patch?

[@TacticatGaming]

Tonight - and we scrapping the let’s play of this build and building a new city - I got farms down to how much they produce so we’re doing a perfect city live - the new mechanics + what I know will flow well into an organic build. Now that I know how things work it’s easy for me to test and amend design on the fly

[@tuffmbassador522]

Fixed my firewood bottle neck and now im over producing bread and fuel faster than i can sell it without saturating the market

[@tuffmbassador522]

Make sure only your granary and large store houses do market stalls and turn off the woodcutters market stalls

[@BiglerSakura]

Well, what would be the optimal size for a veggie plot at level 3 with 4 families so it can be emptied every year?

[@TacticatGaming]

1 morgen veggies 1.5-2 for apples

[@TacticatGaming]

**5/10/2024 BETA PATCH FIXED MARKETS - all foods consumed randomly now - meaning you can make anything!** kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHKkqWlveteNp80si=WrX-E13FlqSTuB1o

[@bloodyto91]

Thank you for the guide. It's really good. I knew about the other points but not that families consume clothing only once, I thought it was once per year...

[@TacticatGaming]

@@bloodyto91 same- I was confirming it and realized that people in the discord were correct

[@bloodyto91]

@@TacticatGaming New patch just dropped. It's on steam. Gameplay & balance: When consuming food, people will now pick a random food resource instead of eating food in a specific order :D

[@skiz_]

i've watched a lot of your farthest frontier stuff. i really like your layouts. definitely appreciate the effort you put in to figure all this stuff out for us

[@Tibiro]

How do you keep production of Fuel with population above 1k? I notice I struggle to keep Fuel/Food. Sometimes I would be just happy to let my population die to keep some balance between both but also when the population gets too big I have to choose between one or the other.

[@TacticatGaming]

Coal

[@JCSFPress]

GJ-- i would like to know what order you built everything in ---

[@TacticatGaming]

I was going to do a step by step let’s play - however with the beta patch we will be amending the design for the new patch. And I’m going to do that on the fly starting tonight live stream

[@JCSFPress]

@@TacticatGaming Im building your design now in game --

[@jimmishoto]

do you think only making 4 foods and having one granary locked to only hold those 4 foods and that granary supplying the market is viable?

[@TacticatGaming]

With the new patch yes

[@ravebiscuits8721]

I've got 50 families but my market totals are stuck at 40 of each clothing goods. I've got extra stalls, I dont know why it's not going up in line with housing. I thought each stall has a limit of 50, but my market totally seems to get stuck on 40 of each

[@CreSavio]

U can use other item from the category to fullfill the demanding

[@shawn4white]

So I’m getting 100% approval, but every time I try to claim another land I get killed

[@haknoo1981]

I have an issue with some materials reaching the houses from the market. I have the recourses but they wont reach my houses further from the market aren’t getting any. The houses aren’t that far and the markets are right infront of the storage and granary. Any recommendations ?

[@TacticatGaming]

Are the resources in the granary or the houses? Remember the pantry won’t empty on the current version till 90% full

[@patrickkelly6691]

You need to look harder at your resources. You must have as many of each resource as you have houses not collectively but indvidually. Say you have 30 houses and 25 of each resource - the 5 houses furthest from the market won't get any.

[@haknoo1981]

@@TacticatGaming there is plenty of food in the granary and plenty of firewood in the storage. I even built an extra storehouse and granary to see if the employees would help move the stuff to the market. Should i build the markets closer to the houses even though most youtubers say build them in front of the storage and granary? Btw its pretty awesome that you replied to me. Love your videos and you Morgan Freeman commentator voice .

[@haknoo1981]

@@patrickkelly6691 i have alot 11 months of food and 10 months of firewood. I built extra market stalls to see if it helps but it doesn’t seem to have a positive effect. I’ve noticed that certain people want to work in the market and not just the storage workers. Does that have any effect on the speed in which they transport goods? Like is it better if the storehouse and granary workers work the markets. I even build an extra storehouse and granary cuz i watched this KZbinr say that it is them who restock the markets. Im going to try to import a butt load of items to see if that helps. I have 400 berries but i have some houses that aren’t getting any food at all (my population is around 120 all peasants with a few lvl 2 houses)

[@OatesInQuotes]

@@haknoo1981 I'm having a similar issue, at least early on; perhaps it's because I do not have a big enough surplus yet. But even when my market stalls have enough for the amount of plots I have, those resources somehow aren't available to them. Instead i'll have something abysmal like 70% coverage, even though I have 2x what I need per house per month/use

[@aussieaussieaussie8754]

DONT BUY THIS GAME THROUGH EPIC GAMES. no patch no support and they don't care! I'm disappointed that the Dev sold this game through an outlet they didn't give any patch support through. Now i'm stuck with the old bugged version. that's the end of Manor Lords for me sadly after 80 hours in

[@cavemanbonk8320]

Why buy anything through epic anyway, idk anyone who does

[@aussieaussieaussie8754]

@@cavemanbonk8320 I didn't know they were bad they came up as the first option when i searched for the download. The Dev shouldn't make the game available to other companies that don't have support and update capabilities.

[@AntonisMel]

There is not patch yet

[@KrayZee33]

So...what can I do when I have 33 plots, and 5 food types at 33 in the *market* - yet my food efficiency is only 75% Shouldn't it be 100%? In fact I do not only have these 5 food-types at 33 for 33 plots, but I also have a 6th at 24 and the 5th at 2. 33 plots with ~100 families (lots ot t3 plots) 4 food stalls that are constantly filled at above mentioned level, for several months in a row, enough food and variety to last for years. It shouldn't matter what workers work on the stalls etc (for this specific case scenario), because the market is sufficiently provided for. What's going wrong. What could be causing the bug? I always feel this bug starts to appear as soon as I upgrade plots to t3.

[@TacticatGaming]

New patch fixed a ton of issues - food is consumed randomly in beta patch and markets hold 100% far more effectively.

[@applecrow8]

Wait, how did you summon someone to empty the veggie pantry, I missed that.

[@TacticatGaming]

When the pantry is 90% full it emptied

[@applecrow8]

@@TacticatGaming Ah okay I get it now. I was worried there was some button I totally missed!

[@exolen19]

Is it worth having 2+ family's for veggie plots or apples? If not, what Burgage upgrade is worth having 2+ families on?

[@TacticatGaming]

Farms are better off with more families per plot

[@bossprophet4345]

Have you run into the problem of your apples not hitting the market I’ve seen a lot of threads on this but not many content creators talking about this. I would have 50+ apples but they all stay in the plots until the pantry is full. Can’t even trade them either.

[@TacticatGaming]

Fixed in bet patch

[@bossprophet4345]

Bet and todays my day off too bout to fire it up right now lol

[@lupus_lupi]

I don't get it, what's wrong with having large load of apples?

[@TacticatGaming]

What happens at manor lords camp stay at manor lords camp

[@KG-1]

Thought clothes were supposed to be consumed once/year. Seems like that would be reasonable and a 1 time consumption seems off. Selling lots of boots and leather here we come, especially while eggs are broken.

[@TacticatGaming]

I think the new patch will fix this - but currently it’s once per family lmao

[@KG-1]

​@@TacticatGaming Synthetic fibers from aliens. I've come to believe that these games are just really 27th Century versions of Westworld in disguise: pocket universes and micro-transporters (see BG3 backpacks, crates, and the single travel chest) with zero-point energy sources. Explains the instant transmit stall to house.

[@TacticatGaming]

@@KG-1 lmao

[@patrickkelly6691]

@@KG-1 Lovely - almost Terry Pratchett-esque in fact !! 🙃

[@retroboomer]

Not sure how you get 800 berries every season. My node has 64 and i have one family picking and keep checking to see if they repopulate during the summer but I don't see it happening.

[@TacticatGaming]

Rich deposits of berries

[@retroboomer]

@@TacticatGaming Rich deposits only have 164, how you getting 800 I guess is my question. I was under the impression that once you pick the 164, that's it until the next summer.

[@TacticatGaming]

@@retroboomer by having 6 families harvest during growing season

[@walterhbez]

I never get a scratch of coin. I don't know what is wrong. I start of. I get my initial carrot and eggs. Get me some fuel. blah blah. Smack down a market. Build the Houses. The stalls pop. They "work" but I do not get money, I leave them for ages thinking perhaps I get taxes at the end of the year... we eventually die off due to boredom... and 10 gold in the bank

[@TacticatGaming]

Are you leveling your burgage plots

[@walterhbez]

@@TacticatGaming Ah... I was doing something a little more complicated I see. I was just messing with the marketplace and did not have the Trading Post. So no income at all but stock in the granary and storehouse. I started the game a long time ago and the tutorials ran out. I forgot all about it and started playing again. I think I just needed a prod in the right direction, thank you sir!

[@RedDed32]

The like is 420 as of right now for me, i really like this video but i think its perfect.

[@Michael-e4h5w]

The hardest part about games like this, is how unintuitive they can be. I think a jar of mayonnaise could manage a town in real life but in a game what would work in the real world just doesn't.

[@seanwest3774]

I am very supprised you are still playing this game, considering how broken the game mechanics are.

[@Zethai]

Regarding sizes of vegetable/apple, how do you consider tier 3 for the extra families? Is it worth it? I assume you want bigger fields then? Or do you exclusively recommend tier 2 double houses for production for simplicity?

[@TacticatGaming]

The patch fixed huge issues making tier three viable - I’m still working things out - however I do like the ease of the tier 2 double plot and 2 families

[@Zethai]

@@TacticatGaming Awesome, please update if you find out good ratios for tier3 and if they are better than tier2 or not, it is not all too easy to figure out! :(

[@Hokie200proof]

So... just be satisfied with less than 100% then?

[@TacticatGaming]

This guide shows you how easy it is with just a few farms and buildings you can hit 100%

[@Lettuce_B3]

Guess what? Experimental patch just rolled out minutes ago and it supposedly fixes markets so unfortunate timing for this video yikes.

[@TacticatGaming]

That’s life

[@MagnesiumSulfate]

That is nuts, lol.

[@cheezy1969]