E36 M3 First Modifications - Bump Stops are Crucial!

[@_coffeeandcigars]

The topmounts you show are fine =) The M3 Topmounts were intended to increase caster and decrease camber compared to standard e36s. I have the M3 topmounts mounted to the opposite sides to get more camber. The arrow must always point forward. Check the lower outer balljoint, its a weakpoint, also check allignment and camber (Tapemeasures and anglefinder). Camber can also be finetuned by adding washers between the lower two shockmounts to the wheelcarrier.

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Thanks.

[@jviews1]

Thank you. 1999 328i no bump stops. Front struts bottom out every bump. If that does not help, guess new struts are next. Love taking front end apart every week. At least bolts are not rusty.

[@tonyevans5853]

Another top vid 👍 good to see some subtle mods getting done to the M3, pleasure meeting you both when you come to pick the springs up 👍

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Reciprocated Tony, thanks again for the pleasure. Car feels great and Natalie is very happy 👍

[@94CSPmiata]

Just bought my first E36 and have really enjoyed your videos. Did a diff rebuild using your content as well. Keep it up!

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Thanks 👍

[@BCortelyou908]

It’s nice, however that x brace has saved my oil pan numerous times! Ashame hehe 🏎💨

[@autoshineblackpool]

Nice video , on the evo you can put the left top mount on the drivers side and vice versa to get about 2.5 degree of camber and slightly more castor . Nice to hear another Scottish accent on KZbin too , where are you based ?

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Hello sir, I'm a little further north and east than you (I follow your e36 content 😉) - near Newcastle. I'd like to investigate if the evo mounts can be used on the 3.0 - I believe the evo has slightly different lower arms and non eccentric lollipop bushes, so I'm not sure if the top mounts alone would be transferable.

[@neilpike4358]

Another great video! Engine sounds sweet👍

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Lovely isn't it.

[@finlay230]

Great vid, really mint M3, defo keeper 👌👍

[@autoshineblackpool]

The top mounts usually have that amount of play I find tbh

[@stepanovps]

Pamo you have a great channel. Reach out to manufacturers like BC Racing, condor speed shop etc. Ask for sponsorship, they might send you parts?

[@ManSeeksCivic]

That would be nice one day. Thanks for the support 👍

[@tiitsaul9036]

Thanks for sharing. Why would you choose aftermarket brace over stock one? Stock brace is a lot stiffer. Looks like it’s time to pull rear subframe and replace all bushings in rear end :)

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Just wanted to try the aftermarket brace, also finding a good oem one is getting expensive now. Well spotted regarding the rear subframe, this winter Natalie will be going the whole nine yards to refresh the diff carrier and bushes.

[@180Lev]

Great vid. Thanks. Did you torque the bolts for front strut and rear shock whilst the suspension was under load?

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Thanks. Yes always under load.

[@Ghost129er]

Nooooo! From the video I thought this was /your/ E36 with the whole kit and shebang! Nevertheless, very interesting so far, wondering if these are what's causing my own E36 to go cling! or CLACK really loud when I go over a bump and etc, despite having installed new shocks, could be no rubber bushings left but I've got other priorities at the moment before doing something so large, but I digress, sorry for going off topic. Glad to see videos from you again Pamo! Take care!

[@ManSeeksCivic]

A Cling or clack would be more indicative of a ball joint or something loose than bump stops. As I've clearly now learned, running a 36 without bump stops just makes the shocks bottom out with a nasty thud.

[@angelocruz780]

Sweet video brotha 👌 👍

[@fvresonanator]

Lovely motor mate. I know its a bit more money, but have you thought about the Bilstein B12? Shocks go with the Eibachs. Also, sport shocks need the shorter bump stops, not sure if this helps?

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Check my other videos Fergus, I run the b12 kit on my modified 328i so naturally it was considered. This was just a cheap quick swap for my partners car, literally beer money that's really a bit of fun.

[@SiggsGBR]

Top video as always bud, the Ultra Racing brace looks sweet! I got one of the really early style Xbraces, the ones that're literally an undertray. Went to fit it last summer and it fouls the M3 manifolds 💀💀💀

[@ManSeeksCivic]

That sounds like a pain in the butt Ross... I'd considered one of them but decided against it. Looks like the right idea.

[@SiggsGBR]

@@ManSeeksCivic the normal Xbrace fits right? I may get one of those, I'd rather sell on the undertray style one than modify it

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Ross.... I didn't actually test this 😭. I believe it will, but didn't think to try when I had them both in the air. Stupid!!! I'm sorry man.

[@SiggsGBR]

@@ManSeeksCivic No bother at all man don't sweat :) I'm sure a little google and I'll know soon enough!

[@SzymonMelewski]

Sweet! What exhaust is this?? Want my e36 328i little bit louder but not crazy.

[@ManSeeksCivic]

That's a stock m3 system. Sounds great doesn't it.

[@SiggsGBR]

You can modify the standard backbox to sound pretty good Szymon. And also remove the exhaust flap in one of the tips

[@raduorban]

Diff oil looks wrong if it has an lsd . Should be 75-140. Castrol syntrax lsd

[@ManSeeksCivic]

I've read about syntrax and I agree it seems well used across the car community. B373 is designed for limited slip diffs and I have read very good things about it also. We decided to give it a try.

[@raduorban]

@@ManSeeksCivic 💪💪💪

[@stepanovps]

Looks like this brace takes so much of a car clearance. Also X design is less prone to deformations compared to rectangle/rhombus that kinda folds…

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Agree on the shape, the exhaust is still the low point of the car. I'd also add that the single mounting points could be a weak point.

[@paulgallagher1376]

who is tony in liverpool?? is he good for advice too, bit of local info is always good! :-)

[@ManSeeksCivic]

Just a guy Paul. Natalie bought them on ebay. Warrington to be more precise. Thought I'd mention him as he watched a couple of my videos and we had a good chat about E36's.

[@paulgallagher1376]

@@ManSeeksCivic no worries bud, dont see many E36's round liverpool, then again dont see that many anywhere now! lol

[@iainhay2823]

Excellent video, lot less sheep and cyclists than when I do that road, not sure how you managed that 😂

[@ManSeeksCivic]

We got lucky Iain 🍀😊