S12 EP 6 | A CAREER GUIDE FOR YOUNG AFRICANS with Joan Thuo The Career Coach

In today’s episode, Eli and Oscar learn from Joan Thuo, better known as Joan the Career Coach, who is a former IBM recruiter and a professional career coach.
The gents learn about the impact of a good CV, what recruiters look for in job applications and what postgraduates can do to break into new markets.
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[@beatricefreidhof9736]

This is a very important conversation and very timely! I would like to get Oscar’s and Eli’s thoughts on her comment about putting USIU applicant’s resumes at the top of her pile when recruiting. Where I am, a recruiter can not say that, let alone in a public platform because that is potentially considered bias… But most importantly, if I needed career and resume coaching, I would second guess myself about approaching her for that exact reason… Because, if she was recruiting, even after her coaching, USIU candidates would still be at the top of her resume pile before mine. I may have misunderstood her comment and so here to engage and learn…

[@phoebe_ouma]

That was kind of concerning honestly, it sort of negates the coaching she's doing if all you have to do is go to a specific school. I'm so grateful that I'm not in a traditional industry/employment. My school rarely comes up in conversation. It is always my portfolio first. But I've had people judge me because I went to a public university in a remote area even before knowing my capabilities. So this type of rhetoric is discouraging to say the least.

[@conselahmithayo3058]

Very biased tho but that explains how our recruiting systems are biased I just don't get how it comes about.

[@geah9621]

Yea I second this, she is the real reflection of the society we are in right now. You might have a 1st class in some bush university and USIU with exposure and average grades, well... Those with money will still be top is definitely what she is saying😁

[@nightcrawler5029]

Honestly that comment was extremely bias and uncalled for from a career coach. I wouldn't want to be in an interview panel with her.

[@wambuigichuki4393]

This is a concern for sure. Now I know she considers USIU candidates! I wouldn’t want to be in an interview panel with her!

[@calphystylez5976]

This is definitely one of the most important podcasts I've ever come across. Kuddos guys.

[@calphystylez5976]

@GHOSTBUSTERS ЖЕНЯ 🇧🇾 приветствую Путина. Большая любовь из Кении.

[@Locs_girly]

I feel like she came to the show to promote USIU.

[@wambuigichuki4393]

Unfortunately I didn’t go to USIU but I have done programs that would make me an all round candidate. It’s unfair to just consider specific universities!

[@Locs_girly]

@@wambuigichuki4393 it is not unfortunate rather fortunate. It would have been a better discussion if they just focused on being all rounded and not the university one went to.

[@pinchezmaish]

@@wambuigichuki4393 The biasness in her, she should believe in other people to deliver as well.

[@dennismuhindi3276]

Man talk ke.. Love you guys, bt this interview isn't It....I'm left with more questions/concerns than answers.

[@wealthhubempiremoneyuniversity]

Good Job Gentlemen & Lady....loved it...laughed alooooot...Joan did my CV in 2021 and my career blew up literally...call her ,everyone call Joan The Career Coach Oscar & Eli Keep doing this,you inspire me loads! Kudos,happy Nu year

[@iandaniel77]

Do you see a man skillful in his work? He will stand before kings, he will not stand before obscure men. 💯💯

[@cycy6861]

I Picked up some good ideas, I however would like to hear some pointers from another career coach. If you guys could bring someone else kindly, that would be great! Just for diversity in thought and new perspectives.

[@friedashifotoka6556]

Such a good and important conversation to have especially with graduates and young professionals. I would like to add that we also need to take into account the type of industry one aspires to work in, the type of organization, whether it’s a traditional role or not, for someone who has experience working as a civil servant, in a private company, NGO, academia and international organizations, what I’ve noticed is that different recruiters look at different things, qualities, skills.

[@feinussayid2938]

Thank you Man talk. This is the kind of advice we would pay to get but here we are getting it for free. Very grateful. This added value to me. Kindly if possible bring more coaches that can help with giving us various skill sets like financial coaches, health coaches etc.

[@cephtheobserver]

USIU is ranked at 7 with the likes of Strath and KU higher in the list. That dilutes her argument.

[@CheekyfoodieKE]

I watched this podcast twice literally gobbling up recruiter insight bit by bit (taking notes) because anything/anyone that sharpens my intellect, work ethic or marketablitly is my instant bestie I was having an infogarsm.. thank you you three!😍😍😍.. laveettt!!

[@adagraphics]

Awesome conversation as always. I think when the uploads are downloadable they are favourable to more people.

[@MyWorld-uw5vk]

Why can't I download your episodes like before 😢😢 please do something

[@susanr8111]

Loved that Netflix show Eli was referring to. Simple yet profound changes that propel one towards their goal.

[@ruthiminza15]

Personally, this is my best episode so far. It resonates with the time am in now.

[@fahrenh8t639]

All you said is sure to build someone up, am sure it will for me. Am excited that right after listening I got enrolled on the alx_africa software engineering program something that has been a passion of mine. I did interior and fashion design back in university, I feel like this will not only grow my skills but also help me grow the design industry in Kenya. I thank God for the timing mantalk and Joan Thuo.

[@nyakerarioeunice8774]

This is such an eye opener….maybe do a Q&A follow up on this episode as part 2

[@sharonirungu2092]

This was such a wholesome conversation. Chefs kiss 😘

[@joanchebii5545]

A totally amazing show, wholesome conversation. Had fun and learnt a lot. Thank you Mantalk, Thank you JoanThecareercoach

[@eshycmwangi]

Can’t help myself getting DISTRACTED & tired of alllll the ummmm’s by @Joanthecoach… was so looking forward to the gems 💎 💎💎especially from this platform but…. It’s becoming hard work 😥… I wish some more editing was done to make it a bit more palatable to consume the nuggets!

[@ManTalkKe]

Sorry @Esther, we do not heavily edit the content we put out as we prefer an authentic experience for our community and a continuous flow to our guests’ ideas. For nuggets of wisdom, we have a lot of short form content out on each episode 😊

[@jevanceomonge8375]

You’re doing a wonderful job guys. Thumbs up.

[@carolinemumbua4128]

Well done Oscar and Eli.. Great conversation here

[@CarolineJere]

Significant conversation over there! Keep up. .#from🇲🇼

[@laurenemkamanga]

Loved it

[@pinchezmaish]

It's sad to see this type of bias being perpetuated by a recruiter/coach. Effective recruitment processes promote a fair and unbiased approach to seeking competent staff. @Trevor

[@jacobodhiambo2411]

She is a charlatan who loves to here herself talk and those moderators are not even pushing back on her bias.. jokers

[@viviannekesa3366]

Thank you , for this.

[@b.3845]

She legit did not answer Oscar’s question on branding yourself across platforms smh .

[@johnwambugu2267]

The bias is strong with this one. Her vacancy ads should read, "USIU graduands are highly encouraged to apply and will be given first priority."

[@mellisaogutu9934]

Min 13:50 is so disturbing. In an interview, she did with Lynn Ngugi she said that she loves working with underdogs. From a person who was made fun of because of not being as intelligent as the siblings, you should know better how that felt. That statement wasn't necessary at all.

[@hopevalentinemiriti2097]

Are the templates available?

[@ManTalkKe]

We are working on getting this to you, Hope. Please stay posted on our socials.

[@hopevalentinemiriti2097]

@@ManTalkKe Thanks 👍

[@anonnona6433]

Well done guys

[@estheratera]

💯

[@b.3845]

So many questions she wasn’t able to answer. How is she even à recruiter? Mantalk please prioritize qualifications over social media clout when vetting who comes in as a guest. I was excited to watch this video but 5 mins in, she put me off when she refused to reveal which job she did in uni (how is she a career coach but refuses to reveal her first job?) and then cannot articulate herself and her thoughts aren’t flowing, and she is unable to answer simple questions. The worst part was her obvious biases , it’s like she has something against first class honors students and is here to promote usiu. Who said usiu does not produce first class honors students? Very weird.

[@ManTalkKe]

Thank you for your comment and for addressing it to us. Please note that we do prioritise qualifications during our guest due diligence and pre-qualification processes. Joan was formerly an IBM recruiter, psychologist and HR consultant. See her LinkedIn profile here: www.linkedin.com/in/joan-the-career-coach-76bb2511 Our audience gets nothing but the best!

[@guidinggenerations6275]

Is she a trained career coach or a self-proclaimed one? Hmmm...

[@b.3845]

She is not an effective communicator. The irony.

[@Sugarbella10]

A biased Career coach. Heavy on the bias. This is unacceptable.

[@Offthetrack_ke]

Bring more men than wemen, it's mantalk

[@carolinemumbua4128]

Well done Oscar and Eli.. Great conversation here

[@carolinemumbua4128]

Well done Oscar and Eli.. Great conversation here