Epic Warpath - Your Kickstarter Questions Answered!

[@CA-qs5iu]

Please make the vehicles larger in scale vs the troops etc. it’s my only complaint. There needs to be a good size difference in scale each step up and proportionate vs the units either side of it in size for the range. It’s the real aesthetic strength of that other game. Otherwise love it, keep up the great work! Really love the Plague and Enforcers, it will always be the classic DZ, Firefight and Warpath grudge match to me. The Asterians for this one look really cool too. Choices!

[@scepteredisle]

Yes, that was literally my only complaint and actually a deal breaker. I don't want to play an idiotic game where the vehicles aren't 100% to scale with the infantry. it's epic scale so it's even LESS acceptable than with a 28mm game - and in 2024 it's NOT acceptable to have 28mm stuff not in scale with eachother.

[@tylorutter5669]

They made the vehicles smaller so we can get more in the box. I agree the dropships seem small to carry troops...but at the same time..I'm not going to argue with more models

[@visitingforgefather5997]

Looking forward to seeing the render of that Hrungnir Magma Destroyer and GCPS stretch goal is getting close. Really curious what new goodies and, especially, super destroyer will get cooked up for them. Gah, gonna be a long year.

[@box2battle]

Veer-Myn colossus idea: giant tunneler, breaking through the surface, disgorging waves of rat happy fun times for all. I think the drill could be made to look a little rat muzzle like, make the eyes search lights, could even be carrying smaller tunnelers on its back. It's basically the drop ship, but, from underground!

[@bombkangaroo]

Interesting idea, but isn't that just a bigger tunneler? How about a giant Mutant Ratfiend-like creature, or Night Terror, but with guns manned by regular sized Veer-myn? EDIT: You know what? Now that I think about it, whatever other super-heavy the Veer-Myn get why not just toss Night Terrors and Rat Swarms into the range? They could be the faction with multiple super-heavies, and swarms of giant rats the size of large dogs.

[@christopherlwilli]

Giant, blind, mutated naked mole rat, of course.

[@CrazyOcelot76]

So glad to see this really taking off :)

[@fredsch3993]

Cant wait for Epic Warpath🎉 hope for the Marauders on KS. 🙏 Thanks Mantic, for this awesome game.

[@cetx]

Thanks for the elaboration about the terrain. My greatest hesitation to buying into a smaller scale game was a concern about getting yet more terrain. It's so great that you guys have thought of that along with everything else. You've made it very easy to buy into Epic Warpath.

[@redhoplite9316]

Congratulations on the success of the kickstarter so far! Hoping to see loads of vehicles, capture Ronnie’s tank fetish goals he had with annihilation protocols! Multitudes of mechanized infantry definitely would separate it from firefight and feel more hard sci-fi.

[@nashpainting]

The KS is going great and the game is just looking better and better! I'm really hoping for an emphasis on combined arms as part of the game design

[@petermueller5069]

Great to see how excited you get talking about your game!

[@wc9109]

Pledged and looking forward to it!

[@ScottWilliams-cv3fv]

The great vehicle base debate continues...😂 Great q&a session guys. Got to be forge fathers though surely ✊

[@Subcomandante73]

Well done on the campaign so far.

[@Gigakhah]

Great stuff. Excited for the game

[@manticgames]

Us too!

[@VJMorph]

Great video, thanks for covering the play styles of the factions. Just needs more rats (and bugs)

[@Tyrannosaurus_Mechs]

Would be awesome to see a terrain only pledge level. It looks like a lot of potential, though those roads really need some sort of attachment system. Having 40 sections of roads that move anytime someone touches them is a huge pain.

[@manticgames]

You can pledge for only the terrain - just pledge for £1 and then in the add ons select only the terrain 👍🏼

[@1rnw792]

Are there any plans to tweak the rules to make it playable on smaller playing surfaces? For example, being able to play a game on a 3 x 2.

[@manticgames]

The game has been playtested on 4’x4’ and bigger as it’s designed to be a game with lots of models however there’s no reason it wouldn’t play at smaller sizes.

[@StiffBadger]

Veer-myn, superheavy........I just need this, a massive cyborg titan combining scavenged metalwork from factories, infrastructure and starships with a huge bloated Veer-myn mutant. Because the Brood mothers realised that they could only create a titanic sized killing machine by combining flesh with metal. Having one robotic arm with armour piercing claws and another with huge bulging muscles that can pick up and throw pretty much anything as a missile weapon! Dripping corrosive fluid that makes hand to hand with it a risky business and carrying hordes of Veer-myn with lesser weapons clinging on to its rank fur! Imagine this: “The ground heaved and buckled as a titanic form unfolded from beneath, bursting through in a shower of rubble and lesser veer-myn. Standing ten stories tall, even in its’ hunched form, the creature utilised unique technology that tied scavenged constructional metalwork with the huge, angry, bloated body of a colossal Veer-myn mutant. A deep yellow liquid oozed from the joins, seemingly combining the functions of blood and lubricant. Where drops fell onto the ground the earth boiled and steamed as the gas produced melted the flesh from the carcasses of veer-myn unlucky enough to get caught in the cloud. Raising its’ matted, greasy head despite the constraints of pipework and girder, the abomination let forth a scream that was part roar and part shrill squeal only barely within the capacity of human hearing. Baring it’s huge metallic teeth the unnatural cyborg seized a Wolverine tank and crushed it, piercing the hull with claws constructed from the sharp drill bits from tunnelling machines whilst it’s other ratlike hand grabbed handfuls of Marines, flinging them high across the battlefield in a shower of humanity.”

[@mangoman9290]

Great video, makes me want to have a 2nd look at the KS. Timing is a little inopportune with TWD preorder closing dates.

[@liquidmetal9015]

The pictures of the hover vehicles on bases makes them look a lot better in my opinion. I do wonder if the bases overall could be made a bit thinner? With the units being so small they feel like they might be a bit thick.

[@bombkangaroo]

I don't think that would work. The bases are socketed on both sides to accept the models' integral puddle-bases.

[@liquidmetal9015]

@@bombkangaroo I'm assuming that the thickness of the puddle-bases isn't fixed at this point right? They could potentially be made thinner? Also it's possible that some of the thickness of the inside of the sockets could be reduced.

[@kudosbudo]

Old battletech hover craftinis use a little metal cone underneath. The make the mini look like it hovering cos you can't see the small cone but it's wide enough to stand on its own. Look up old ral partha battletech minis for how that looks.

[@bombkangaroo]

@@liquidmetal9015 Theoretically, but most of these things need to be cast in HIPS, so the integral base can't be made too thin or they risk mis-casts. Removal of the integral base probably wouldn't be a good idea either, since then you'd have almost no surface area for adhesion, and the resin models will need to be super-glued to their base. Since the bases need to accommodate either 4 regular infantry or 2 large infantry they need to be double sided. IIRC the current standard 25mm base is around 2.5mm thick, which should mean there's [something like] a 1mm recess on either side for the models' integral base, which doesn't leave much room to shrink things. In terms of margin for error versus the potential cosmetic improvement, I'm no expert, but I don't think they'll consider the trade-off worthwhile if it risks production problems on a high-volume/low-margin item like hard plastic models. They'll want to be able to use the same bases for both types of infantry to keep production simple (x number of units = x number of bases, instead of ordering different amounts of different bases) and they wouldn't want to leave gaps in the base from overlapping holes if they did make the bases around 1mm. (not to mention, really thin bases might become fiddly to pick up in the middle of a game, and you're going to be moving a lot of them) Realistically, I think your best bet for proportionally thin bases on these smaller models is probably going to be grabbing a bag of 1mm Renedra bases and drilling the holes yourself, getting the models glued in place, dremel off the excess from the integral base if there is any (making sure not to inhale any resin) and then maybe shore that up by gluing paper over the bottom, but that sounds like a huge amount of work.

[@chrisbanks1710]

Nice update

[@SHAKALL976]

Thx for the video. What are you doing guys, Veer-Myn have been unlocked and Orcs will fall soon. So prepare those 2 factions ! :D How would you classify the armies according to their : variety of troops, easy/difficult to master, ... ?

[@Battleschelm]

I would like to see a BIG BAT for the Veer-Myn. That's something to think about.

[@Ludo2laludo]

What diameter base are the super-heavy ones on? The "Aedis Clade Warden" and "Plague Colossus" are cool and I was wondering if they could be sized enough to join the deadzone miniatures ? (Like a new Spectra or Aberration...)

[@hordynighthawk325]

I am quite interested in the super heavy for gcps but they look like hard choice for super heavy, gargantuan transport? huge artillery piece. For veer myn supper tunneler or gargantuan rat would be cool.

[@minimundus1712]

Video needs more rats

[@manticgames]

Rat video coming soon!

[@harrisonlorens3585]

Interesting physical design philosophy to not have a set scale for your miniatures while working at such small scales generally. It does create a little bit of mental discordance with how small the vehicles are in comparison.

[@scarlorterrorbane3220]

Would 1 plastic box, reinforcement, and the super heavy be about the army size for a two hour game?

[@minimundus1712]

How about a giant sound weapon for the rats, like a giant bell wink wink :D

[@NicholasHendley]

Kickstarter estimated delivery is March 2025. Is there an estimated delivery for the STL files? I've adjusted my pledge and done the STL all-in pack.

[@leesimpson6334]

How long till the units are on general release?

[@brett7773]

So the scale is? For building and buying terrain.

[@manticgames]

A human is roughly 10mm and Enforcers being bigger super soldiers are about 12mm

[@StiffBadger]

Around 2mm to the foot (c.1:150) for modelling purposes. Should fit with 10mm ranges for scenery etc... and N Gauge model railway stuff if need be.

[@SlayerOfWorlds]

Proper scale is essential in a miniature wargame. That is like rule 1 of mini wargames. The vehicles need to be the same scale as infantry.

[@kodosdh]

Just that the miniature wargames that ignore scale completely are still the most successful ones.....

[@bombkangaroo]

@Wendigo1777 "essential" As a wise man once said: "My friend, you keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means."

[@scepteredisle]

I'm not buying into this game if the infantry models aren't to scale with the vehicles lol. It's absurd that in 2024 we're pretending scale cheating is acceptable. GW are especially bad at this.

[@Perchpole]

This should have been a really good opportunity for Mantic to do something modern and innovative with the rules - but instead they've stuck with the same old outdated GW phases. To make matters worse, Warpath appears to have adopted some of the same clunky rules. The classic one being where units armed with ranged weapons are encouraged to charge each other to get into base-to-base contact and engage in hand-to-hand assaults! We've seen it all before. This is such a missed opportunity.