Christopher Hitchens DESTROYS Mel Gibson and Passion of the Christ (2004)

Christopher Hitchens sharply criticizes Mel Gibson's movie:
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[@damianedwards2327]

If hutchins keeps degrading God bad things will happen to him

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@matthewklahn7523 You think that imputing the Dunning Kruger effect is an argument?! It’s basically an ad hominem attack, paraphrased as follows: “you’re stupid but think that you’re smart.“ Try using rational arguments next time.

[@davidhamburg7868]

God Is Not Great, but Hitchens's book certainly is.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@davidhamburg7868 Hitchens was a dork with a good vocabulary. Please fashion a moral code from atheism for us, thanks. Otherwise there is no right and wrong.

[@damianedwards2327]

@@davidhamburg7868 God is the existence of Love. Everybody believes Love exists. To degrade that, so you can impress others, comes with Consequences

[@connerfarr8072]

When your father tells you that they have never lied to you then it's safe to assume they lie to you the most out of anyone in your family. If I'm kind, considerate, compassionate, loyal, and truthful then I shouldn't have to tell people that

[@beemelonhead1]

But he didn't claim that his father TOLD him that he has never told him a lie. It seems more like he just believes that. For example I truly believe my father has never lied to me and he has never once had to tell me he isn't lieing. I agree that if your father actually tells you he hasn't lied to you it is probably likely he has, but that isn't what I heard here. (Also I am paused at about 30 seconds into this video to comment so I'm not sure what is in store for the rest of the video. I'm just stating what I heard it seems that you are commenting on in the beginning) ✌

[@kevinkerr9310]

Laughs in Santa

[@MeMyselfAndEyez]

Huh - too much overthinking there for me I'm afraid. I've often told my kids we should tell each other the truth; I've also told them if they've a problem/worry etc to come to me and we'll do what we can to sort it - I wouldn't NOT say that just "because I shouldn't have to". There are of course instances where a parent has no choice but to lie to their child - I suppose then your way works out, as it's never been clarified.

[@beemelonhead1]

@@MeMyselfAndEyez too many diy at home armchair psychologists on KZbin man.

[@MeMyselfAndEyez]

@@beemelonhead1 Rather hoping you're referring to the original poster! :-D

[@raypurchase801]

"The Life of Brian" is a far better movie. I watched Mel Gibson's movie all the way through and never laughed once.

[@kyleadams5990]

Really? I laughed the entire time. What a nut job Mel Gibson is.

[@denysarcuri1213]

I agree, although I never watched Mel Gibson's movie. Mainly because it has Mel Gibson in it, but also because it glorifies the mythology of Christianity.

[@misterquantum7767]

Martin Scorsese's The Last Temptation of Christ is pretty great too, and Christians hate it. So that makes it cool in my book.

[@ryans756]

I laughed when the mother walks her baby through the crowd and it has Satan's face 😂😂😂 Right after I shit my pants 😬

[@raypurchase801]

@@denysarcuri1213 I've distrusted Jesus since He tried to seduce Lois Griffin. Also, I left a different reply for you a few days ago, but KZbin has made it invisible.

[@Thepourdeuxchanson]

When Hitchens died, he left a void that nobody has been able to fill.

[@bruderk4257]

And nobody ever will. I am fine with that. It would make people exchangeable.

[@michaelkwaaitaal]

We need different voids filled now. Hitchens destroyed the idea that religions are untouchable. Today, a book is due similar to his which may well be written by a new author titled "Government is not great - Authority destroys everything..." If global government responses to Covid and human trafficking are anything to go by, such a book is long overdue.

[@tyrobbie4257]

i think sam seder is filling that role rly well

[@bruderk4257]

@@tyrobbie4257 I'll take a look

[@lazedimovski1342]

May GOD rest his soul...

[@salimdarjaoui8112]

According to wikipedia Hitchens discovered that he is 1/32 jewish in his late 30's and decided to identify as a jew

[@blitzkreig4887]

anyone who is smart would hide that information. Why associate with the sect of devil

[@kpl775]

He never identified as a "jew", he simply acknowledged his jewish heritage. He repeatedly expressed dislike of people who think with their blood. Watch his debate with Jay Richards, where he blatantly says just that

[@Johnny-ql2vd]

@@kpl775You are correct Sir . Hitch is truly missed…..

[@Mastermirror89]

I am amazed at how knowledgeable Hitchens was. The man was a beacon of knowledge, and it's really humbling actually. Agree with him or not, but you can't deny his towering intellect. Also, an outstanding speaker/orator. What a pleasure to listem to him!

[@ColonelDecker001]

I'm reading one of his books atm. He is awesome in the original meaning of the word.

[@michaelgibbons6273]

How could it not be knowledgeable that's all hes ever done and studied...

[@Mastermirror89]

@@michaelgibbons6273 That doesn't mean anything. People can study all their lives and still come out the other end stupid as ever, and not a bit wiser. The man had an exceptional intellect.

[@michaelgibbons6273]

@@Mastermirror89 .it's not hard to bash religion. any fool can do it.cqude there is so many holes in the Bible and other religious books..not impressed with him one bit....he is a prime example of a guy who is educated beyond is intellect....just my opinion..as I said any fool can make a great stand about being religion basher ...he would hold a candle to the great minds Off the past and present...

[@jameshogan6142]

@@michaelgibbons6273 Compared to his fellow country men such as John Henry Newman, C.S. Lewis, G.K.Chesterton, and Ronald Knox, he would have a hard time holding his own in such company.

[@markhamilton8728]

The budget was $30 million and the revenue was $612.1 million. Boycott failed.

[@waggsish]

Yeah, and South Park mocked the entire movement in one of the episodes ever, in the "The Passion of the Jew"and it is a religious porn snuff film. I concur. Who gives a shit how much money it made.

[@brianmcphail685]

Celebrate a failure of reason. Fool

[@roberthill799]

Mel found his market.There are a lot of fools with bad taste and nothing better to do with their free time than watch his religious wet dreams.

[@timmayers4965]

Happily all that money came straight out of the pockets of many misguided and/ or fanatical theists. That’s a result of a sort

[@acspicer]

Lotta dumbfucks in the world.

[@waltmccarthy9837]

No, Hitchens destroyed Iraq and his lungs not Mel Gibson.

[@Avengerie]

It is very admirable that he changed his views on "enhanced interrogation techniques" after undergoing it himself, but that's what pricked my Hitchemania bubble. If he changed his opnion so easily and quickly in the face of personal experience, what else has he been wrong about (while talking about it with utmost panache, certainty and confidence)?

[@PaulHussey01]

@@Avengerie So easily? He was choked half to death after which he had the honestly to admit he had been wrong. The ability to admit one’s errors is a sign of strength not weakness as I’m sure you’ll agree.

[@Avengerie]

@@PaulHussey01 It's been a long time since I've seen it, but remember it was pretty quick. Waterboarding is deceptively non-violent, but it tricks all your senses into thinking you are drowning without doing any damage to your body. The point is: it is good that he admitted he was wrong (though I'd love to see him try argue his way out of admitting it after having just dropped the safety item 10 seconds into the procedure), and he still has my respect for his intellectual honesty, but he lost credibility in my eyes on a lot of things he's been arguing for with the same certainty as he had wrt Iraq/waterboarding. Was he wrong about women and their sense of humor? Was he wrong about his obsession with the Clintons? Was he wrong about Mel? I guess it was my fault for idolizing him and not evaluating all his arguments on the strength of their premises, but it is very human (and dangerous) to be longing for a person whose thoughts you can accept uncritically because you trust his intellect so much. edit: just rewatched the video - he lasted 16 seconds. Basically the moment the water seeped through the towel, he dropped the items. All that time spent intellectualizing and contorting yourself into compartmentalized mind frames that make you justify torture evaporated in 16 seconds. It's one of the first videos (I was 16) that I remember that put me on a path of cynicism and moral relativism I am on now, as sad as it sounds. There is no pure reason, only motivated reasoning.

[@PaulHussey01]

@@Avengerie Thanks for your thoughtful and honest reply. I like your line “because you trust his intellect so much”. Easy to fall for isn’t it? Someone so eloquent and smart and who seems to speak your thoughts . Easy to idolise and assume that you and they must be kindred spirits. And then they go and say something you just can’t get on board with. Aaarrrghh! I hear you….Your intellectual heroes will always disappoint you. Unless….and it took me until my 40’s to get this…they’re just really smart people who are also prone to allowing their emotion to cloud their judgement. Idiots are 90% emotions and 10% intellect. Geniuses are the opposite. Folk like us in the middle. Let’s not be disappointed by the foibles of the brilliant ones, let’s enjoy what they teach us and forgive them their humanity. I mean, who are we to criticize ;-)

[@Avengerie]

@@PaulHussey01 I appreciate the reply. Maybe the reason I was so hard on him is because he was the first person who had that glass-shattering effect on me. It almost felt like a betrayal. As you said, 90% reason, 10% emotions. 90% right, 10% wrong, sometimes glaringly so. The upside to that is me being more critical of predominant narratives and vaccinated against ideologues and people who claim to possess the ultimate truth. I still value his wit and perspective on things, and the humility and stoicism he's shown in his final months is something to be admired.

[@Nameless-pt6oj]

What did he destroy? He didn’t destroy anything.

[@HeIsRisenLuke24]

Exactly. This bitter rambling hardly destroyed the film or its director…and certainly did nothing to discredit the subject matter of the film.

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

He accurately pointed out that the film was an antisemitic screed the likes of The Protocols of the Elders Of Zion and that Mel Gibson is a lowlife Jew hater with a holocaust denying father who spirited his sons from America to Australia in order to keep them from serving in Vietnam.

[@EzraB123]

He made several legitimate criticisms: 1.) The portrayal of Pontius Pilot as a sympathetic and subservient to the High Priests, which is extremely inconsistent with both the biblical account and all historical evidence of that era, it was the other way around. Criticism of the High Priests was pretty common among Jews in those times, especially among the Pharisees and Essences. The former was the precursor to Rabbinic Judaism, the latter very heavily influenced many Christian teachings. 2.) The use of antisemitic tropes and Aramaric phrases which no official church authority, Catholic or Orthodox, agrees with, and outright rejects as heretical. 3.) The use of scenes and characters for which there is no biblical or theological basis, just shit Mel Gibson added on his own accord. Maybe if you actually listened to what he said you'd realize he made perfectly legitimate criticisms. Don't base your religion on a Hollywood film.

[@alexb9969]

Did you even listen to the discussion?

[@alexb9969]

@@HeIsRisenLuke24 it revealed monstrous criticism for both Gibson, and the movie. The only explanation is that you two are defendants of institutionalized religion, if you don't understand what he's saying

[@peterharris38]

Man Mr Hitchens was a brilliant mind and a complete scholar of religion he is sorely missed as a voice of sanity in an insane world.

[@joshuaDstarks]

Mr Hitchens supported the invasion of Iraq. He was a blubbering chickenhawk for the Bush Regime. He sullied his entire career foaming at the mouth like he did.

[@glasspreacher8436]

He just complained in a verbose manner but to what end? His words were just the random fizzing of worm food. Who cares right?

[@peterharris38]

@Cú Chulainn I see your worth when you the term 'leftist' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 jog on jesus and tell me where was your god in the 210 mass shootings this year mmm, and if you say the devil shame uopn shame on you as nothing happens without god allowing it. Just because you can't handle a mind that questions your belief system is your problem sonny jim not mine

[@peterharris38]

@@glasspreacher8436 obviously you do tiny tim otherwise why are you wasting your valuable time writing something that is worthless 🤕🙃😃😂😂

[@glasspreacher8436]

@@peterharris38 My worldview can account for objective truth, morality, meaning, human dignity, beyond subjectivity. It makes complete sense for me to expose the bankruptcy of naturalism, because truth matters. The atheist proves he knows God exists when he tries to smuggle these things into his reasoning without giving an account for them beyond just meaningless subjective brain fizz. It's the transcendental proof. Hitchens never could combat it. He sounded like a bafwoon when he debated Doug Wilson.

[@mrtadreamer]

The title of this video is a lie.

[@nickster3008]

What a language he speaks . His brain is unbelievably full of incredible information

[@berniefynn6623]

John Lennox of Oxford university has demolished this nob and dawkins.

[@2019freddie]

@@berniefynn6623 hahahaha good one..

[@Sommervillle]

Such a shame we no longer seem to produce such eliquate speakers from this great Isle anymore! Our media is full of boarish idiots.

[@taffpatch1]

John Lennox ! Don't make me laugh.@@berniefynn6623

[@dianablackman4528]

@@2019freddie Ha ha Gibson and traditional Catholics will have the last laugh.

[@baikhous]

"An incitement...to sado-masochism, in the less attractive sense of that word." Bravo, sir 😂

[@thesubhumancomedy]

I laughed at that. He truly was great at debating.

[@rubenmartinez2994]

Ad hominem ; it's like attacking a messenger and not addressing the argument.

[@mareksicinski3726]

I’d say he addresses it defo

[@Levi-hd5db]

@@mareksicinski3726 it what way?

[@chilliecheesecake]

And still people think this guy is some kind of genius--and by "people", I mean bitter, lonely atheists who have never heard someone speak eloquently and with precision before, so when they witness it for the first time from Christopher Hitchens, they act like he's some sort of genius or something.

[@Kousaburo]

I don't ever seem to recall Hitch denouncing Judaism or indeed Jewish power.

[@briancoe1792]

Hehas Many times

[@CompelledUsername]

Then you didn't pay attention to him.

[@samuelosmyth6340]

Many times no exceptions

[@BusterCherry1]

No, he didn't. He discovered he was ethnically Jewish and the first thing he did was try to get into the club.

[@masrrr]

He hit the low hanging fruit of circumcision, that's about it. He was jewish what do you expect.

[@misterquantum7767]

My grandmother's church members forced her to go see Passion and then she stopped going to church.

[@shane727]

That's too bad. It's a powerful movie and story

[@VLind-uk6mb]

@@shane727 It's a slasher movie.

[@Betty-wt3sw]

@@VLind-uk6mbIt’s a true depiction of what happened. Maybe you’re sensitive?

[@VLind-uk6mb]

@@Betty-wt3sw If you do a film about the Holocaust you do not show 6,000,000 deaths. If you do a story about one victim you do not show every single piece of the torture. Gibson exulted in making it as violent as he could. I can understand that he was trying to make the point as to what Christ endured for the sins of the world, but I found it consistent with his proclivity to making films as violent as possible. I am certainly too sensitive for his aesthetic, and as a former graduate student of drama I have learned that suggested violence can be much more affecting than gruesome depiction.

[@rexrathtar3893]

Same story here, except it was Transformer: Dark Side of the Moon they made me go and see.

[@Armawulf]

His masters were happy i guess. A little pat in the back and massive promotion for his ridiculous book followed, i wonder if he was given a "chosen candy" as a real fantastic reward...

[@magneto44]

huh?

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

Triggered much?

[@tnaf4950]

true

[@auggieniopetch3045]

But they did kill him. They were even given the choice between Jesus and a murderer when Pilate was trying to politic his way out of an uprising, and they insisted on having Jesus killed. Even though they couldn't do it themselves. Hitchens is the nut with all this nonsense rhetoric.

[@sanchoohches]

Jew crying in pain...

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

Hitchens contradicts his argument here. He says Pilate is depicted as a mere serf and it was Tiberius who got rid of Pilate. But in the film, Pilate mentions precisely that 'the next time the blood will be mine' - so Gibson did imply the hostility between Pilate and Tiberius the film merely depicts the pressure Pilate was under from fear of a Jewish Revolt

[@backident]

You didn't grasp what he actually said in the slightest. The argument he presented is that Pilate is presented as a serf to the Pharisees, bullied into the execution. Hitchens notes that in reality Pilate was removed from his position because of his vile treatment of said people. That reading is nonsense, and wouldn't constitute a contradiction on any level.

[@denysarcuri1213]

Well, it never f-ing happened, so who gives a F?

[@andrewheld2475]

@@denysarcuri1213 Sadly, the fact it likely never happened will do nothing to quell the very real consequences, in past, present, and future, specifically the subjugation, oppression, and death of millions.

[@denysarcuri1213]

@@andrewheld2475 Amen, brother.

[@denysarcuri1213]

@Marijan Ćorluka There is no burden on me. I'm not obligated to relieve you of your false beliefs and you can't prove a negative. Read John 3:16--no, really, READ IT, decipher what it is really saying, and then tell me it makes any sense whatsoever. Then . . . read John 20:29 which says believing in something WITHOUT EVIDENCE is superior to believing WITH evidence. You've thrown evidence out of the equation, and you tell me there's a burden of proof on me? That's just crazy.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

This title is gross. Christopher wouldn't have agreed with it. Gibson's career is well alive

[@croissantlover1]

true

[@Coach-V]

Sounds like the passion got Hitchens in his feels.

[@ryanbeachner2563]

How so? His voice didn't change volume or tone just gave some facts and opinion on them...Was spot on with analysis of Mel Gibson's character. Lol who's really in their feels? "Mel Gibson tapes: The complete transcript | Salon.com" www.salon.com/2010/07/16/mel_gibson_tapes_complete_transcript/

[@R3DASH09]

The story of the gospel and the passion that Jesus christ went through for us got hitchens convicted

[@arjunratnadev]

@@ryanbeachner2563 passion of jeesus sucked donkey arse, this was clever way by Mr. Mel (antisemitic) Gibson to show his true hatred of Jews into the silver screen

[@gabrielswayze4506]

@@arjunratnadev How is he antisemitic?, and what of the information from the gospel in reference to the Jews it's not true in the movie? Are you compromise in a personal way with the "antisemitic", topic?..

[@gabrielswayze4506]

@Daniel Paulson Fan boy?

[@TheEvdoggy]

What are the links between Hitchens and Epstein? That might explain his backflip from Trotsky to Wolfowitz.

[@valeriemacfair2205]

Who is Wolfowitz?

[@Skymaster.47]

@@valeriemacfair2205 The s-bag who got America to invade Iraq for no reason killing millions of people and handing the country to ISIS on a golden plate.

[@harryantino]

That’s one of the laziest insinuations I’ve ever read. ‘Man disagrees with me on subject so he must be a rapist’. You are exactly the kind of nutbag Brownshirt type that the hitch elegantly gives a kicking in the video.

[@waggsish]

Uh, I think you belong over at the Breitbart site, friend.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

9/11 and moving to the US explain that.

[@TomBrennan183]

These Hitchens fans meat riding him in the comments is just embarrassing.

[@archermadsen7744]

He's smarter than you'll ever be.

[@unknown-lives]

@@archermadsen7744 you can present yourself as academically smart, talk "smart", but in the end you will have to bow down to Christ whether you like it or not.

[@archermadsen7744]

@@unknown-lives No. I'd rather go to hell instead.

[@AlexM-zp2ti]

@@archermadsen7744 He's literally braindead

[@0202-t3h]

Probably coming from someone who meat rides Jesus Christ daily

[@ben-ben2366]

I like how the comments have been getting more based over the years.

[@freckleheckler6311]

By that you mean what? Everyone is waking up to the juice lies?

[@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry]

How are you using the word, "based"? Do you mean "biased", or something else? Just asking as this isn't the first time I've seen someone using "based" outside of its standard usage.

[@kinsmart7294]

Yeah, Hitchen was really being asinine. Trying to frame the movie as fascistic, claiming its sadistic(it shows the passion of christ so duh) and etc. Its more of an hit at Mel due to him being religious.

[@daltonpoole99]

I love him so much. The words just flow so naturally in such a sophisticated yet easily accessible way.

[@upturnedblousecollar5811]

I loved Hitch and especially his humour but he had an infuriating habit of interruping other people and even raising his voice and repeating his own words over and over until they gave way to him.

[@tiktok2077]

if you think having a British accent and using big words makes you "sophisticated", you have a very low IQ. All Hitchens did was call Gibson an antisemite who's having a failed attempt at fascism. There is NOTHING "sophisticated" there...

[@sanderson9338]

When a genuinely intelligent human holds his ground with irrefutable references to make a point. I miss this man.

[@shane727]

I do too. And I say this as a Christian who loves the film

[@jackprecip5389]

I disagree. Hitchins references are not only refutable, they often border on pure fiction. In addition, I've never considered Hitchins all that intelligent. It's almost comical how a British accent and fast talking seems to pass for "intelligent" for a lot of folks.

[@hookymakalele6296]

@@jackprecip5389 Wow, I'm suprised you think that way. I must however ask a question if i may. I wanted to know if you are religous? I assume you are and a Christian, as rightly or wrongly I'm also assuming you maybe in the USA. Some form, branch, sect of Christianity (Judaic in its beginnings, scriptures and even its god(s)). I want to be wrong! I'm intrigued as I don't think I've ever heard an Atheistic/Agnostic Atheist etc etc not consider Hitchens to be intelligent. I've never considered him fast talking, although I do agree either you that Americans often believe that fast talking, combined with a half decent vocabulary, equates to someones intelligence. (Trumpf being an obvious exception, he rarely uses multiple syllable words and often struggles with pronuciation, meaning and his delivery. Hes like a goD to his followers, which is quite ironic given he has very few Christian qualities) Shapiro springs to mind as the fast talking guy. Most of his content his managed by his people and they can edit him 'destroying students' all day long, His interview with BBC veteran Andrew Neil, is hilarious. Totally unprepared, ill informed and made to look a complete fool/madman.

[@fawaziaali6814]

It was a super successful film!

[@alanweissaltz6053]

So was deep throat an extremely successful film 😁

[@laxjs]

so is 'The Kashmir Files', what's your point?

[@geofreyr]

@@laxjs I think his point is quite obvious, but I suspect you already know that but would rather just reply with some veiled insult.

[@lifelongbachelor3651]

'he assured rabbis'... on whose authority are rabbis acting as censors...

[@nebulous6660]

When people throw around the word "fascist" without backing it up, they automatically lose credibility. This film is no more an "incitement" as Hitchens claimed as a film about slavery would be towards descendants of slave owners. It's ridiculous. This clearly touched a very personal nerve with Hitchens, evidenced by his sloppy logic.

[@inezgraer5482]

And where is Mel Gibson now???? Anything we see him in now is too painful to watch. Whereas Christopher who is gone now still remains relevant, has impact and is/will be unique. I enjoy your work madly Hitchens!

[@gruaim]

Mel Gibson’s life was ruined because he tried to expose the sick perverts in Hollywood

[@sliglusamelius8578]

Hitchens created nothing new and nothing of value.

[@timcahill4676]

Hacksaw ridge was brilliant

[@robertacolarette1594]

What a brilliant man. I saw the film for the first time only a year ago and it was clearly what he described.

[@andrewjankowski9650]

In what way? Qualify that because the film follows quite closely the Gospels, with emphasis on the Crucification.

[@clearsky4042]

@@andrewjankowski9650are you apart of the cult?

[@DEVXNico]

You’re a clown

[@holyromanemperor420]

​@@clearsky4042 Why is that the first thing that comes to your mind when you hear about a fairly well documented Roman execution method?

[@CFoCMinistries]

Lmao did that man call Passion of the Christ a fascist movie ? How'd that work out for him. Hitchens is dead , Christ is King

[@rajsouth101]

Haven't watched the film,so won't be able to comment much on that..but what point are u jesus 🧟‍♀️ trying to make by pointing about his death..? He is dead,just like all of your maternal/paternal great grandparents & how u alongside the rest of ur relatives will die 1 day..its an inevitable part of natural life in our planet..how does that take away merit from his arguments..?

[@vitabricksnailslime8273]

Hitch calling for a boycott? Hmmmmm.

[@Aivottaja]

Not really in line with what I've been told about this man. Kind of pathetic, really.

[@michaelfern4079]

He’s Jewish. Of course he’s against the movie. Plus, if the line is in the bible, why not show it?

[@vitabricksnailslime8273]

@@michaelfern4079 Well, for an avowed "Antitheist" who only discovered late in life that his mother was Jewish, this assertion presents something of a conundrum. It suggests that the power of these "Jewish genes" is more subtle and pervasive than previously imagined by anyone other than ratbag, white supremacist, conspiracy theorists. I mean, he did expend quite a bit of energy expressly condemning all of the Abrahamic religions. My head might explode if I think too hard on this. After four years, I'm not about to revisit this interview, so am unsure which line in the bible you're referring to. But not to worry. "The bible", as we know it, has a very long history of lines (and very much larger chunks) being inserted and deleted, something well known to scholars of its history. Where else could you find four testimonies of supposed witnesses to someone's entire life, and find huge proportions of three of them to be verbatim copies?

[@michaelfern4079]

Vitabrick Snailslime ratbag white nationalist conspiracy theory? That’s sounds like a lifetime of propaganda that’s worked very well. It appears you’ve not observed how Jews actually behave and vote as a collective. You also don’t have to rely on that. You just have to read what they think and say of themselves in their own words from their own books. Christopher doesn’t surprise me.

[@josewilliams2996]

I think the creators of South Park agreed with Christopher's description of the Passion of the Christ 😂

[@lescrimesdelamour]

Mel sounds pretty based to me

[@yagirl2124]

mel gibson is a dumbass. south park did a whole episode on how stupid he and his idiotic movie are

[@seanp3302]

@@yagirl2124 mel’s a hero.

[@frfsolrac77]

Except him being a habitual drunkard…& a girlfriend beater. Except for that.

[@frfsolrac77]

@@seanp3302The only difference between Mel Gibson & a drunk, girlfriend beating, trashy, trailer park living bogan is some money & the legion of sycophants (like you) that adore him.

[@BusterCherry1]

​@@frfsolrac77 Hitchens was a drunk. As for that Ukrainian gold digger he used to date, she should have kept her mouth shut. Ta, gov.

[@topskek9786]

To say Mel Gibson is a bad director shows a lack of taste

[@MrJof92]

The national day of whining from the Jews. What is new?

[@robertcottam8824]

Name a good film directed by Gibson.

[@maxwatt5938]

@@robertcottam8824Apocalypto is awesome

[@robertcottam8824]

I must admit that I enjoyed Apocolypto. So I, grudgingly, must acknowledge it. But, in conjunction with his largely-dreadful œuvre - The Patriot, Braveheart, etc. - he does come across as exploitative, crass, simplistic and vulgar, obsessed with the pornography of violence. The moving picture is now a mainstream art form. As such, Mr. Gibson is fourth division amongst directors. Best wishes.

[@topskek9786]

​@robertcottam8824 he didn't direct the patriot. Get your facts right before giving your opinion

[@michaelguerrero8046]

I don't agree with everything he said but he sure is good with his words

[@AustinDallasPictures]

He sure knows what to say to get a good paycheck

[@chilliecheesecake]

That's the only appeal to this guy. Atheists are very easily seduced, hypnotized even, by sophistry and glittery verbiage, so you can basically find an articulate way of saying "the sky is purple, also Mel Gibson bad" and atheists won't be able to give you their money fast enough.

[@iveseen1]

Christopher Hitchens gave religion the utter contempt it deserves. He was an intellectual giant,and a master of debate Rest in peace Christopher your impact was profound..

[@biffalobull2335]

Utter contempt? All those hospitals, shelters, adoption agencies and charities… Could you list some atheist organizations of equal scope and value?

[@RepentJC]

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, doing abominable iniquity; there is none who does good. Psalm 53:1 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23 There's only one way to heaven and that is through Jesus Christ “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 3:16‭, ‬18

[@msj5885]

Explain "it deserves". But ya won't as you didn't come back the first time. So many failed mic drops on this post.

[@cmvamerica9011]

For an atheist, Hitchens spent his whole life talking about religion.

[@Qred09]

Not just religion. Very wise man. Spoke on alot of topics

[@p1b1harper]

@@Qred09 he would occasionally blather about why we needed to invade Iraq. Wrong about everything.

[@Qred09]

@@p1b1harper everything?

[@p1b1harper]

Should I make a list? Maybe you could mention something he was right about? History, economics, culture, race relations, sex relations. Maybe he said a couple things about the Clinton's that were true.

[@stephenwalsh4481]

Strange isnt it's like atheism is anti religion

[@UncleScorch]

I can only hope that Mr. Hitchens accepted the free grace and eternal life that is offered to everyone through Christ’s crucifixion, death, and resurrection.

[@kylethefraggle30]

I did. This is a very special time. That being said, this movie still sucks.

[@metalsynthetic5957]

Lol

[@Adogsmate4267]

😂😂😂I seriously doubt that.

[@JoyoSnooze]

There isn't a public commentator I miss more than Christopher Hitchens. I listen and read his works regularly still, and our current world is at a destitute point of intellectual draught in a very great way because he is no longer an active participant within it. Long may more people continue to discover him and learn from his profoundly accurate wisdom.

[@DimSimSam]

I read your first sentence and couldn’t agree more. His wit and quick humour was/is extremely rare. His intellect and passion on the subject was original although I believe he spurred on people the like of Harris, Krauss, Dillahunty, Dawkins and my favourite Aussie Peter Singer.

[@Basedlocation]

Imagine actually protecting the people that killed the son of god on earth

[@cdorio7095]

God's son was one of them (????)

[@rexrathtar3893]

If Jesus actually existed (and the jury is out on that), he was killed by the Romans. As tenuous as the historical evidence is, at least all the various scanty parts agree on that much. And, of course, that Jesus, Mary, Joseph and all the apostles were Jewish themselves.

[@MrDidj]

⁠@@rexrathtar3893yes Jewish but they believed in Christ and God and are Christian. The other “jews” did not they handed him over to the Roman’s to carry out the execution

[@merrickying4264]

Christopher Hitchens was a fucking TITAN! Damn how I miss this man.

[@SideLemon]

So rabbis wanted him to remove something from a movie? Are they even that powerful to be able to demand someone removes something from a movie!? Couldn't imagine that but fair enough.

[@thewkovacs316]

yes....we control the world runaway and hide if you can

[@petarticinovic2710]

It's a fucking movie, "Hitch." Get over it.🙂

[@PlayNiceFolks]

An important movie...

[@croissantlover1]

@@PlayNiceFolks a good movie.

[@UroborosX1]

Charlie Rose just never knew what to do with Hitchens. In fact no one did lol.

[@FlixMaker64]

Because he would never talk to a good pastor or a well grounded Christian, he only talked to wackos. Then you fools would think he’s so smart. He never ever talked with the likes of Billy Graham or any other good preachers. There was a reason, fools.

[@UroborosX1]

@@FlixMaker64 yea Hitchens kinda needed someone with a degree of education to get past his opening remarks. Most pastors are self proclaimed and friend affirmed riding on some charismatic psychosis. Word pastor or preacher in your terms has no real meaning. You should check out his debates with William Lane Craig, numerous rabbis, and among my favorites his argument with the Archbishop Diocese. You seriously sound like someone who has never examined the opposing arguments to your beliefs. So your ignorance is hopefully more bliss and less folly. Cheers.

[@FlixMaker64]

@@UroborosX1 you show your ignorance like most, I have studied several of those who thought they were smart as you pretend too. And I know a few educated “pastors” that would have eaten Hitchens and you for lunch. Again, Hitchens never debated a good “Christian Pastor!” He always debated the feeble minded priests and other cult wackos.

[@UroborosX1]

@@FlixMaker64 what have you studied? Who do you know? Sound like lonely delusions of grandeur sadly. For starters William Lane Craig holds several doctorate degrees and is among the worlds foremost theology professor apologists. He is among countless Hitchens debated successfully. Sounds like you don't even know who he is. Go back to your prayer closet with your personal prayer language and keep wishing upon a star my boy Pinocchio.

[@FlixMaker64]

@@UroborosX1 you silly silly boy, I know who William Lane Craig is and he is one of the wackos I was referring to. He is a professor at Houston Baptist University and I have seen him debate. Again, Hitchens and other atheists would never debate well grounded pastors that would shred his claims of no God. I know a pastor personally who would shred any atheist you could produce, I’ve seen him do it. There is nothing to prove to evil people such as yourself that seeks signs that God exists. Matthew 16:4 Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a miraculous sign, but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah.” Then Jesus left them and went away. Jesus was far smarter than the “educated man” and always left them embarrassed. He did that to show them that he could really expose them for the frauds they were. You will one day find out and I pray that you find out before it’s too late.

[@degaulle30]

One of my favourite things about Hitchens is his very concise listing of things. He doesn't rant. He educates. He builds a case in parts and provides evidence with every breath. There is still nobody like him. And the wit is like a beautiful package of delivery. Jordan Peterson is a babbling child compared to this guy. After hours of watching Hitchens Peterson just comes across as boring and opinionated rather than clinical and passionate.

[@SuperDecdog]

Didn’t even need Hitchens to know that about Peterson haha

[@kelvinloeb812]

Peterson spews nonsense with enough passion and authority that the uninformed assume it must be true. One of the funniest I heard was that people can't quit smoking without a belief in god

[@spinzbydagamer111]

Speaking abstractly doesn’t equate to a “babbling child”

[@jangilbert8028]

I never saw it! Never wanted to !

[@2fast2block]

Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only shallow people follow Hitchens.

[@thearcecompetizione]

Ken Ham, J. Warner Wallace, Peter Kreeft, Norman Geisler, Robert Barron, Scott Hahn, John Lennox, Lee Strobel, Francis Collins, Alvin Plantinga, Hugh Ross, John G.

[@leahdurkan28]

Oh, how I miss his fantastically erudite opinions on this world at this time (2022). And always witty.

[@melindaschlongdongfootlong3608]

Rest in hell

[@cheri238]

You are missed greatly, Christopher Hitchens. May 2022. ❤️

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

So is my grandma

[@DulceN]

I concur. He helped me realize I had been a lifelong atheist.

[@saintsone7877]

Missed by whom? Did not even know he had passed. One less conceited individual living in the world if reports of his death are real.

[@alexb9969]

@@saintsone7877 Missed by people with actual brains. Funny how a random nobody says they never even heard, while millions of people have. Sad

[@saintsone7877]

@@alexb9969 Not sad Alex but your response is. I rarely watch NEWS as much of it is fake. Dawkins is NOT the centre of my universe and I honestly did not know he had passed. The fact you cannot accept a simple fact shows how sad your comment is. I guarantee you Alex that if you were able to poll every person on the planet Earth instantly you would be shocked to see his death would not be known by the majority of people on the Earth today. Only you think he was so important all knew of his life/death. Sadly for you the rest of the world did not idolise this liar.

[@rorysimpson8716]

Fun fact: the guy playing Jesus in Passion was struck by lightning during filming of the Sermon on the Mount scene. Atheismo certainly has a great sense of humor.

[@saturdaysolitude7800]

Lol how? If anything it's the opposite. It's more like God is giving him a taste of the suffering Christ experienced on the Cross.

[@lemsip207]

He was also accidentally whipped as the actor carrying out the whipping was meant to whip a post behind the actor playing Jesus but his aim wasn't always as it should have been. He also suffered from migraines from the prostheses he wore. Plus a dislocated shoulder from carrying the cross.

[@MoxxMix]

It is never fun if one gets struck by a lightning. Further more, you are implying that him being struck by a lightning implies existence of some god, and if you not, you are a moron.

[@rexrathtar3893]

Caciezel has said he doesn't do scenes with gratuitous sex and "I also don't do gratuitous violence", so we know he must have a sense of humour, or at least sarcasm.

[@geofreyr]

@@rexrathtar3893 But The Passion film is not gratuitous violence.

[@jumpjet88]

Mel Gibson was right 20 years later, he indeed did not get Any role in Hollywood and was indeed crucified himself for simply showing how Jesus was treated.

[@yevgeni10]

Well he isn't the first Jew or the last Jew to be killed in this World.

[@jumpjet88]

@@yevgeni10 replace Jew with any identity and that Sentence is still valid I don’t get what you’re trying to say?

[@lesliewells-ig5dl]

It wasn't because of making this movie , it was because of his drunken, antisemitic rant that was recorded when he got pulled over for drunk driving. That's why he he became persona non grata.

[@brownbananabooks]

Mel's gotten plenty of roles in Hollywood! And The Passion sucks.

[@davids8151]

It’s a good thing Mel was there to tell us what really happened.

[@ussliberty4631]

109 countries and for no reason at all 🤷🏿‍♂️🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@mattb6975]

I believe it is 112 but either way. Naw it was all of our faults. I was fired 109- 112 times but it was all of my employers fault not mine.

[@DeE-pt5lz]

cuz Christians are evil and never paid

[@DM-it1qf]

We had to watch this film at my Catholic high school. It was infuriating. I had not clue exactly how antisemitic Mel Gibson was until later.

[@wincentydulkowski176]

haha I found out about that film from the south park and their depiction of mel gibson.

[@s6748-z5j]

not antisemitic at all, he was just following the gospel

[@Bigfoothawk]

Do more research this guy is a grifter.

[@Pellaeon159]

1:32 "...because its FASISCHTICK!" Yeah, its a Fasi Shtick alright :D

[@jimdavies6764]

Hitch was mistaken. Fascism is about authoritarianism. What he probably meant was, anti-semitism. There have been plenty of fascists who are not murdering Jews. Even so, I doubt he made his case against Gibson. Mel just tried to tell on the big screen the familiar story the way it has been well known for 2,000 years. I don't disagree with his overall findings about religion, but here Hitch over-states his case.

[@ChronoStrife]

OY VEY IT'S THE ONE AND ONLY LEVI SKLADBY! Out of curiosity who makes you coom harder, Chris Hitchens or Pinkie Pie? Hilarious coincidence that half the e-atheist Hitchens fans commenting here are turbo virgin Bronies too.

[@saulorocha3755]

Did I hear it correctly? The atheist Hitchens passing judgement on the religion of Mel Gibson and NOT only that but supporting traditional catholic religion? What a joy to watch so much contradiction in just one person LOL. Hitchens is just a polemicist, listen to him with caution and check his “facts”.

[@thiscanadian5017]

The movie is powerful, when I watch it I can't stop crying. It drives me to a fit of tears. There's something peculiar about it, its unlike any other film.

[@jakesnacks1149]

And that's why you're the target for the film

[@thiscanadian5017]

@@jakesnacks1149 But the acting was so unbelievably flawless.

[@jakesnacks1149]

@@thiscanadian5017 that is true

[@RataStuey]

It’s a stupid gore fest

[@thiscanadian5017]

@@RataStuey Yes it's a true horror, what humans are really capable of 🙄

[@johncassani6780]

Gibson is quite clear that this film is for believers, and Hitchens is, obviously, not among that number. His objections probably brought a lot of believers, who may have been on the fence as to whether they would see it. His criticisms are worth less than nothing to believers.

[@rosschops9509]

It’s ok, believers aren’t important to anyone but believers. Don’t worry.😀

[@ansmerek]

This film was about making money

[@banjo2019]

Well, these “believers” want to use guns and prisons to impose their bigoted views on everyone. So your point is meritless. This movie and its antisemitic themes are exactly as dangerous as Hitchens is saying. And history has proven him right.

[@rosschops9509]

@@banjo2019 Well put

[@rexrathtar3893]

Wait, I just want to get this clear. His criticisms were less than nothing to believers. And his criticisms also simultaneously brought a lot of beleivers to see it. How does that work?

[@philipmccarthy4975]

Matthew 27:25 All the people answered, "His blood is on us and on our children!" Since it IS biblical, why SHOULD Gibson have removed it. Pilot WAS arguing to spare the life of Jesus AND the Jews were DEMANDING he be put to death. Chris, buddy, may you rest in peace, you argue against Gibson putting the figure of the devil in at the Agony in the Garden because it WASN'T biblical. And here when the Jewish people accepted Jesus' blood be upon them and their children we see IT IS biblical, you don't want that in the movie either.

[@edstar83]

Hitchens was jewish

[@luka243]

@@edstar83 Well that explains more about him being resistant to the meassage of the cross, i love Chris and i hope he is with God now.

[@edstar83]

@@luka243 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4OrpKGCr6uFkM0

[@dng267]

Well, supposing jesus even existed.....pls search for historic evidence from one of the greatest civilised empires, Rome...you will not find ONE reference made by any historian of the time, yet you will find discrepancies within the gospels as to whom was Governor of Judea or even Caesar in Rome.....and knowing those writers wrote between 25 - 30 yrs after the supposed death of that jesus.....you are left with what is ALWAYS left....the mere "belief without seeing, what has been revealed", in other words faith. So, what are you talking about?

[@johnorson6907]

@@dng267 the Roman historian Tacitus and the Jewish historian Josephus both (in the 1st century AD) made records of Jesus’ existence. The theory that he didn’t exist is rejected by virtually all historians of antiquity. Make sure you bother to do some research next time you espouse your biased, self-interested psuedohistory.

[@RobVespa]

Mr. Hitchens, you are dearly missed.

[@matthewbland6246]

Peter is still alive... i believe you've made a mistake...

[@hectorguez]

​@@matthewbland6246The other Hitchens

[@isaacthegoat1432]

Rest in piss.

[@reginagaughan-kassery4575]

heard Hitchen's wife say he wanted to live longer-----WHY didn't anyone tell him to QUIT Smoking cigarettes!!!!!!!!

[@dolphinjeans663]

Someone did tell him but he hates that being and has dedicated his life to spreading wrong.

[@timwatts9371]

@@dolphinjeans663 "Someone did tell him but he hates that being" WTF? Hitchens hated the doctors who told him to stop smoking?

[@nicknickson3650]

Hitchen's condemnations just make me love Mel Gibson. Doesn't believe in the infallibility of the pope? Based. Disregards jewish fables? Even more based.

[@GoodmanTheatre-op5ry]

You're weird. Gibson is a known racist and anti-semite. And no man is infallible - including the Pope. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly ignorant

[@nicknickson3650]

@@GoodmanTheatre-op5ry "known racist and anti-semite" he has hired plenty of black men and paid them extremely well. How many black people have you given money to? When it comes to anti-semite, not really. He's a hardcore Christian, and jews were the main opponents of Jesus Christ in The Bible. It's natural to have some disdain for their religion. I hate Judaism as a religion, but I love all people equally even if I disagree with them. Judaism however is Satanic. Also I said he doesn't believe in the infallibility of the pope, meaning he doesn't believe the pope is infallible. I have the same view.

[@nerome619]

for god's sake at least learn the correct word ... 'biased'

[@nicknickson3650]

@@nerome619 based: “A word used when you agree with something; or when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous and unique or not caring what others think."

[@tommoore8726]

This program is an example of an old axiom; a way to bring protestants and atheists together in agreement is to bring up catholics or anything catholic. The anti-catholicism is all over this program.

[@billmitchell2080]

I believe the Catholic sex scandal should have sent all members to doors and never to return. This discussion is anti-catholic? The Catholic church is still stonewalling and hiding abuse.

[@ThePeter172]

What a wonderful gift for words this man had.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

That was his only gift. Thought process eluded him with occasional exceptions.

[@neoneherefrom5836]

Seemed unbelievably bitter, though.

[@brianfergel129]

He's a damn microphone 🎤 hog. Anyone else speaks, and his voice gets louder.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

Any idiot can be an atheist, it’s boring and childish.

[@2fast2block]

Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. --"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”-- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the liar didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word antics to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only shallow people follow Hitchens.

[@marcusaltus5825]

Starts evidence listing personal information about mel gibson 😕

[@ottovonottsville476]

Mel Gibson needs to make a movie about joshua. He should write, diirect, and star in it. It would be a magnificent success.

[@rcg9573]

Yeah, gullible morons would slurp it up. LOL

[@grizzlynad]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JonniePolyester]

There are very few left like Christopher, I do like listening to his brother Peter regardless of politics… you know you are listening to someone far more knowledgeable and well read than you are!

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

He's a liar

[@chilliecheesecake]

Lol far more knowledgeable and well-read than *you*, perhaps. Some of us actually enjoy reading and educating ourselves, you just came here to watch a butthurt britbong leftoid cry about fascism and antisemitism (where of course there are none whatsoever to be found in the Passion of the Christ)--a rather typical and unimaginative move characteristic of British wannabe-intellectuals, used to silence any disagreement when actual sound reasoning simply won't do.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

Pre WW2, there were 80,000,000 people in Germany. In roughly 10 years, their leader convinced almost all of them to follow his doctrine. It took Jesus, god himself, 30 years to gather 12 desciples.

[@bowser8817]

Charlie rose interviewing vanity fair’s christopher hitchens about mel gibson Its like anti-nostalgia

[@ham5483]

Whenever you think youre useless just remember, atheists exist.

[@archermadsen7744]

cope

[@karmaisreal261]

There’s nothing lower than an atheist

[@archermadsen7744]

@@karmaisreal261Go ask magical sky daddy to strike us with lightning then.

[@unknown-lives]

@@archermadsen7744 Anyone who actually believes wouldn't ask that. Instead they will pray for you, so you too will understand.

[@denysarcuri1213]

Oh. You mean "realists."

[@KidMillions]

He frames it like rejecting the second vatican council is a bad thing.

[@rexrathtar3893]

Your comment is something Hutton Gibson might have said,. Obviously anyone with sedevacantistic leanings would lap up this film.and would be a lost cause to Hitchen's petition. His argument is this film is pitched at ultraconservative, fundamentalist Christians. If you are an ultraconservative, fundamentalist Christian, he therefore is not talking to you.

[@billmago7991]

I remember Hutton Gibson on Sale of the Century, at the time Mad Max 1;came out ....he was champion for a few nights and if I remember correctly he won a bit of dosh too

[@shadodado7153]

He supported the iraq war, US used depleted uranium (DU) against iraqi's. DU resulted in cancer in local population. Knowing that Christopher H died of cancer himself makes me wounder if he ever thought about what the iraqi ppl went through.

[@jonathanj2666]

Wow, there's a false equivalency if ever i saw one. He supported the war against Hussein, to be sure. But I've yet to come across a source of him commenting on the use of the particular weapons the american combined arms used , perhaps you have one? And i think that he has more of an idea what life in the middle east, particularily in Iraq, Kurdistan etc becuase he had been there.

[@leeham6230]

@@jonathanj2666 Many people supported intervention in Iraq, and I think that most of those people today have seen the horrific aftermath, and changed their minds.

[@jonathanj2666]

@@leeham6230 And here comes the Iraqi Baath party apologist. Fine, mass murder of minorities is a much better situation. And besides - i fail to see your comment as much more than a non-sequitur.

[@Hammett175]

Mel has already pissed on Hitchens' grave and laughed.

[@Hollis_has_questions]

Why should Gibson laugh, or piss? We all die. The difference is, Hitch’s words will live as long as Western Civilization does, while Gibson’s movies won’t survive much beyond his death. Philosophy will ever trump popularity.

[@Hammett175]

@@Hollis_has_questions Because Hitchens was an insufferable prick. His words are mostly already forgotten. I'm sure the God he railed against remembers them though.

[@Hollis_has_questions]

@@Hammett175 Insufferable to you, mostly forgotten by none - else why are you here, so angry and so defensive? You prove my statements, by your response.

[@robertoballa9703]

Gibson won't be here forever either _he could expect reciprocal if that was true

[@Levi-hd5db]

@@Hollis_has_questions but what will be remembered? His lies, malice and passive aggressiveness?

[@JohnDoe-uc4uu]

A jew who dislikes the passion of the Christ, shocking

[@tinaa9231]

A fool who likes to watch torture porn John? Grow the fuck up. Sky fairies do not exist. Phil.

[@briggsahoy1]

Sad that he no longer with us.

[@peter0712]

@@sliglusamelius8578 Religion is indeed a dead horse.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@peter0712 Hitchens is dead. God lives.

[@positivevibesonly3371]

@@sliglusamelius8578 in your imagination yes in reality nope

[@sliglusamelius8578]

@@positivevibesonly3371 I would never have imagined the God of the New Testament/Old Testament but you’re welcome to think of me as that clever if you want to.

[@wokeok7450]

@@sliglusamelius8578 delusional

[@mikekelly5784]

Well, Christopher certainly now knows the answer to all of his doubts.

[@dinohall2595]

Only if there is an afterlife. If there's not--and there is no evidence there is--he sadly cannot know anything now that he's passed :(

[@TheRaveJunkie]

@@dinohall2595 Shhh, stop it with your logic and reasoning, you rascal! People like Mike don't like questioning their own ideology!

[@spider-man9118]

@@dinohall2595people have had near death experiences and saw themselves and others during surgeries. Some even died and went to heaven and came back. Look it up, bro. Didn’t mean to come off rude, btw. Thanks for reading

[@dinohall2595]

@@spider-man9118 People who have near-death experiences tend to perceive whatever god their culture emphasizes most strongly. There was also a case of a little girl who had a near-death experience seeing Santa Claus in her hallucination. Oxygen-deprived brains tend to hallucinate, which is a much more empirically sound explanation than the supernatural.

[@Not_juwish]

He’s burning in the lake of fire 🔥

[@litote9]

It is true that Hollywood is a Jewish industry, given their high representation in all areas from studio executives to producers and actors, which is bound to shape its politics. Hitchens, who was Jewish himself, not surprisingly brushed over this and it is true Gibson was made a pariah by Hollywood.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

The race part of Judaism is irrelevant.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

GF Off

[@conlaiarla]

Christ destroys Hitchens after atheist rants about Mel Gibson movie . Gives him 600 years in Purgatory for shooting his big mouth off . Proper order say the Choirs of Angels.

[@richardbale7077]

I'm pretty sure that Passion of the Christ was never publicly shown in Syria.

[@Betty-wt3sw]

Where did he destroy it? I must have missed it

[@lemilemi5385]

Don’t confuse appreciating CH’s eloquent wit with seeking the answers from an oracle

[@nickko4042]

CH fanboys ought to know that while the man loved applause, Hitchens probably considered them little more than sycophantic rabble. It's almost like many of them didn't read the stuff he wrote about, and the kind of person he was and just discovered him via KZbin.

[@tonyharwood]

So what? He's not afraid to question things religions in particular are saying must not be questioned. If you cannot question these "oracles" then you ought to wonder why not.

[@davidkirby8236]

@@nickko4042 I disagreed with Hitchens about the Iraq War, quite acutely. I was also a Clinton supporter, and found his savaging of Bill and Hilary Clinton gratuitous and opportunistic. Much of Hitchens' target practice grated against me. But on this subject - the venality and intellectual/moral vandalism of organized religion, I wholeheartedly agreed with him. He was arrogant, pompous and not a little condescending...but when he was right, he was right.

[@geofreyr]

​@@tonyharwood So when were you told by a religious person that something must never be questioned, or are you just repeating what you heard someone else say?

[@tonyharwood]

@@geofreyr Thursday probably around three O'clock, you're welcome!

[@KingKobbie1764]

And after all that, the movie makes 612 million dollars... you just can't stop God

[@Slurped836]

Mankind has worshipped many gods, as times change gods change and have throughout the history of mankind, the ones being worshipped now will fade away and other made up deities will take over in the future.

[@KingKobbie1764]

@@Slurped836 not this one, his throne is everlasting to everlasting

[@Slurped836]

@@KingKobbie1764 This god you speak of is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. You preach about a faith that has taken part in the sexual abuse of children on an industrial scale which is ongoing to this present day, a faith that actively took part in hiding nazis from the authorities after WWII and helped them flee the authorities etc etc etc. Following this faith and preaching about it tells everyone you agree with all the above, what a wonderful human being you seem to be.

[@KingKobbie1764]

His throne is everlasting to everlasting.... Many people cannot grasp the grand, vast unending infinity being of our God

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

@@KingKobbie1764 But you can. Because you are special. Not deluded but special.

[@dianamorris5726]

For someone who didn't believe in God or an afterlife, he spent his "only life" fighting against the very thing he felt was fake.

[@carriekmms]

Which means he spent his life fighting for good.

[@jeffsmith3366]

The sooner this fallacy is extinguished Mankind can spend that time on progression of our species helping our planet and all living things on it collectively.

[@josephgonzalez9371]

So your point is

[@krysalislife6739]

@@jeffsmith3366 I’d like to ask you. Do you know any follower /believer of Jesus who isn’t an extremist and is nothing but kind ? What has God done that is in any way bad ? You want to live in his world he created for you without him involved sounds like a bitter wife who wants to divorce her husband but keep the house , the car etc and take more with her. That might have been a poor comparison but it’s late. Lol Ifnyou ever truly want the truth and want peace ask God himself. He will answer you.

[@c.a.savage5689]

I disagree. He spent his only life asking questions, separating facts from fallacy and through his books and interviews, trying to shine a light on lies and irrational thinking in society. He saw religion as a con game that kept the "huddled masses" in their place and did not benefit humanity in the long run. That he died an atheist is to his credit.

[@MegaMiir]

after some time ive come to notice that twinkle in hichens eye right before the opposition stops talking and he goes on.. lol

[@MusclesHockeymask]

Every time a Christian pauses an atheist angel gets its wings.

[@whoknows1570]

Hitch is salty because he takes it personally as a Jewish person, unhapy about New Testament being apparently antisemitic (which is in fact anti-racist since the Judaism is a form of racism towards gentiles) but fails to mention the hate that the Talmud is fulll of.

[@MegaMiir]

@@whoknows1570 references for "Hitch is salty because he takes it personally as a Jewish person" please

[@kathryncarter6143]

Rather reminds me of detective Clouseau in the Pink Panther. Clouseau is one eyelass shy of being full bar shit crazy.

[@MegaMiir]

@@kathryncarter6143 ok boomer

[@petroniaskho]

E. Michael Jones sets this right.

[@michaelfern4079]

How so? I like him.

[@Doeexist]

Link

[@danielpaulson8838]

If Christians were this smart, there would be no Christianity. RIP. What a great mind.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Watches a movie about Jesus, calls it fascist, of course. Everything he opposes must be fascist. What else do you expect? Also, is his objection to the movie it contradicts the Bible? A strange point from him.

[@cantankerouspatriarch4981]

Hitchens dropped the ball on this one.

[@acspicer]

LOL as if. Gibson is a piece of shit.

[@chilliecheesecake]

@John-Paul Hunt Cry harder, fucksissy.

[@sdkelmaruecan2907]

Lol with such eloquence the man would convince me that the Earth is flat

[@kevinthecleric]

He "could" convince you but I doubt very much that he "would"

[@PrincessTikikitty]

Hitchens is an atheist and how is he an authority of the meaning of Scriptures.

[@MamaMia84oo7]

He read the Bible bro lol.

[@yingyang1008]

It was one of the most successful films of all time

[@yingyang1008]

@@matthewklahn7523 made a fortune

[@philcawser]

Hitchens took considerable care to provide the full context around his condemnation of the film - including explaining which religious groups around the world would lap it up anyway because it feeds their prejudices. In the light of this, quoting this success/gross takngs statistic, out of context, is both childish and insulting to the intelligence.

[@yingyang1008]

@@philcawser Hitchens also supported the Iraq war - what's your point?

[@arthurcain3904]

@@yingyang1008 Is this self-parody?

[@yingyang1008]

@@arthurcain3904 It was a hugely successful film - Gibson alone made hundreds of millions of dollars from it As for Hitchens - so pathetic to watch Americans fall for a posh English accent They guy said stuff for money, just like all the other shock jocks on TV, albeit a far more eloquent one

[@misterE-1989]

"You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the (censored) who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit." ~ 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 (NIV)

[@marktosh3739]

"She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse." ~ Ezekiel 23:20

[@Levi-hd5db]

@@marktosh3739 and your point is?

[@kinsmart7294]

@@marktosh3739 Yes, an apt description to that of Israel at time of the prophet Ezekiel. It's an analogy created to be derrogatory.

[@marktosh3739]

@@Levi-hd5db Love your dungarees.

[@jcox4904]

I love this man .He stands up and voices his opinion . Hollywood has a way of getting anything wrong .

[@chrissanto]

I love Hitchens as well, he speaks the truth. Yes, you are right, Hollywood gets it wrong sometimes. That sadistic film should never have seen the light of day.

[@raakareiska9804]

He took a film of fiction as serious depiction and need to set it straight. Well everyone can use their time as they please...

[@acspicer]

@@raakareiska9804 The events of the bible are fiction. There's no non-fiction to be made of it.

[@raakareiska9804]

@@acspicer There are few historical events there. Dont shit your pants over it

[@joshuaDstarks]

How right was Hitch about Iraq?

[@gaviriak]

This video is beyond PATHETIC and profane. This poor guy is losing is own soul.

[@j.rebekah8605]

Wonder who pays this man's bills.

[@k.k.artclass265]

Educated People.

[@j.rebekah8605]

@@k.k.artclass265 progressives are sound asleep fascists. You have no idea the world you live in, no clue about politics science, reality and history. Unhealthy beta men tell you what to believe and teach you docility. You've long since given up on believing in yourself. Thank God Gibson is continuing to make movies while this guy gets brief airtime and lame talking points. It's a beautiful world!!!!

[@chilliecheesecake]

@@k.k.artclass265 Lmmfao, or perhaps people who are very easily seduced by pompous, self-congratulatory sophistry.

[@nerome619]

@@chilliecheesecake ooooh well done, you went and looked in a dictionary for that reply, must be the first time in ages you've used longer words!

[@PaulOReilly712]

When you get to this part in the video 4:16 know that it is written in the bible what they did say in History Pilate Washes his Hands 24When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but that instead a riot was breaking out, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “You shall bear the responsibility.” 25All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!” 26So Pilate released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged and handed Him over to be crucified.…

[@dinohall2595]

The Bible isn't history. Some events in it may be historical, but it is collectively fiction.

[@Levi-hd5db]

@@dinohall2595 the Bible IS history, just because YOU don’t believe doesn’t make it any less real!

[@dinohall2595]

@@Levi-hd5db Despite the fact that there was no worldwide flood, Adam and Eve were demonstrably not real people, and countless events recounted in the Bible are either incorrect or contradictory (like Judas dying both by hanging himself and falling over in a field where his guts exploded)?

[@spider-man9118]

@@dinohall2595it’s collectively real, bud. You know how God parted the Red Sea through Moses? They found chariots and bones of horses and men at the bottom of the Red Sea

[@bertroost1675]

If they said it (according to scripture) then why remove it?

[@manmaje3596]

Appeasement.

[@bertroost1675]

@@manmaje3596 pathetic

[@22Too]

A lot of people do not like Biblical scripture. Nothing new.