Mao Asada - triple-triple combinations

[@smurfiennes]

The best 👍👍 I love her jumps, but I love even more her landings.. so softly and effortlessly.

[@0714awesome]

why cant we like both Mao AND Yuna. They are both highly respected athletes (they both deserve it). Even if you dislike one of them, you should still respect the other.

[@greenpuffle]

Andrew Austin So true!!! I love them both. They both bring different attacks on skating, and both are wonderful to watch. I don't see why we have to hate the one or the other just because they were close competitors.

[@진-z9q]

agree

[@hilalk-b]

I couldn't agree more. Even they seem so friendly to each other. If I would be on Yuna's position I would be ashamed about my fans comments when I see Mao every time. Supporting someone is good but being too dedicated adorer is kinda bad thing.

[@_MAOTA95]

@@hilalk-b Every time I watch Kim I am embarrassed by the comments of her fans. They are offensive because they often come to Mao's videos and still make fun of her shortcomings even 10 years ago, even the fans who pretend to treat the two equally criticize Mao for some reason just because Yuna is made fun of a little. It's really ugly.

[@_MAOTA95]

I don't understand why there are still comments pushing the two of them as friendly only in Mao's video. Mao says he hasn't kept in touch with Kim at all since he spoke to her at the Sochi Olympics. The reason why I don't like both of these girls at the same time in the first place is because their personalities, skating skills and love for each other are the exact opposite. I think we should just respect each of them separately.

[@pineauclaire1420]

古い練習動画まで‥よく集めましたね～ 今見るとCM前のチラ見せ練習動画とかの方が貴重ですね 当時の空気感を思い出します。ありがとうございます。

[@Missartemischen]

Love her so much! She is the queen of jumping, not only because of triple axels. What she has achieved is just so amazing!!! The announcer called her "The Queen of Triple Axel" at the gala of 2010 olympics. So pround of her!

[@mk-sm4on]

浅田真央さんは現役時代セカンドループを多く練習してたぶん、やっぱセカンドトーループは若干のぎこちなさがありますよね。決まれば確かに得点が稼げるのですが、回転を一度完全に止めてしまう癖があった分、どうしてもセカンドの回転が怪しいところが多かった印象です。それでもやはりループはきれいでしたね。エアリーという表現がぴったりというか、同じループ持ちの安藤選手はおりゃああって感じだっただけに対照的でしたね。

[@paololucasvianini6434]

I love Mao, she’s the best 😘 I’d love to watch 3-3 Collection by Carolina Kostner too

[@fhcghvghgfg4706]

올금못딴 애들만 좋아하나보네ㅋㅋㅋ

[@vermouth8432]

i like her jump!! she have spactacular jump! real queen, Mao Asada

[@GioMariatex97]

There were also a couple of 3F+3Lo at the 2012 Worlds practice that you can add...

[@hilalk-b]

Some of the commenters seems to forgot about fair play. I want to remind you guys the 2002 Fifa. The game between Korea and Türkiye was an incredible example of fair play and all the sisterhood between nations. How could these beautiful and hospitable people became bulliers to an athlete in social media. Even Kim Yuna herself wouldn't hold that much grudge on Asada Mao. They were not enemies they were rivals, rival means a precious person to keep you work for better in a way. Because sports is not only about the color of medal or the rank, it is about to give people a good vibes. Also in a national point represent your country humbly and pride your nation. I don't think your nation become prideful about you when you bully an athlete and her fans on social media. Please leave these two legends of figure skating alone. Our country's great leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has a beautiful saying about sports; "I like an athlete with intelligence, agility and also the highest of morals.” This sentence is also right for audience. Please be more gentle and considerate in your comments. Love you all.

[@Seresu1]

Thank you for the suggestion. I haven't come across anything from those practice sessions though.

[@大嶋洋子-t8w]

ジャッジによって判定がばらつく変な競技。今じゃ加点減点の幅が広すぎて、勝たせたい選手の為のインチキ臭さを感じる。よっぽどの失敗をしない限りジャッジが好きな選手が勝つようになってるみたい…。真央ちゃんの場合だって、認定される時とされない時…あまりに不思議な判定が多かった気がする。ルールもコロコロ変わるし、フィギュアほど曖昧な採点基準のスポーツって無いんじゃない？今の若い選手はルールに沿って加点を稼ぐスケートを、コーチ共々やって来てるから順応してるけど、真央ちゃん時代のゆかりちゃん、美妃ちゃん、大ちゃん達って苦労しただろうな。みんな引退しちゃったけど、フィギュアが楽しい時代でした！お疲れ様でした。今は勝つ選手決まってるみたいで、つまらない…。

[@金子太郎-j2l]

大島さん ある時期から、安藤選手と浅田選手のセカンド3looは悉く減点されて、セカンドは2looに変更せざるを得なかった。セカンドLooは着地後すぐに飛ぶから、難しそうですが、エキシビションでは3F-3looやってました。 あの当時、セカンド3Loo飛ぶ選手は外国の選手はわかりませんが、おそらく減点でしょう。悲しい時代でしたね。

[@ざいか安曇]

@@金子太郎-j2l フィギュアの暗黒時代ですよね 今の戦士たちは幸せですよね 努力したぶんちゃんと点数がついていますよね マジで2007年から2014年までの採点をやり直して欲しいです

[@hantingchen5497]

i dont understand why an underrotated 3flip3loop combo is valued less than 3flip alone...like ya ok mao underrotated the loop part of the combo but shouldnt the flip get its value PLUS additional points for an underrotated loop? Seems weird to me (and half of maos UR in combos are bogus theyre perfect bruh)

[@bone9jdjkaye]

In base value its higher. But if she gets bad GOE then its lower. Sorry this is later answer

[@Mxlchn]

The scoring was super strict during Mao’s early era with the early IJS system. A fall would be 50% deduction and a GOE deduction of like 2.4 points. So if you look at Mao’s fallen triple axels, they would be worth 1 point. They were super strict especially with the under rotations, two-footed landings and even wrong edge. She once got a 50% deduction for wrong edge on lutz in her early career whereas in 2014 Sochi, she only got a 0.6 deduction.

[@hantingchen5497]

@@Mxlchn im glad they moved away from that scoring system, im glad Mao still created a legacy under such strict rules

[@iosebdzamukashvili5360]

Old scoring :(( it was horrible.

[@Bnizzofashizzo]

I gotta say, her jumps were rotated better with Rafael

[@smurfiennes]

Nathan learns them from the Master himself as well

[@TT-sp1lh]

やっぱり3F-3loは2005の跳び方が1番回転不足になりにくい跳び方だったなあ フリップの沈み込みが酷くなってから、ファーストジャンプの着氷後のスピードが無くなっちゃったんだよね セカンドトリプルはファーストジャンプに幅があった方が付けやすいから タラソワの時はジャンプ指導してくれる人が居なくてフリップの沈み込みが酷くなっちゃった アルトニアンにそのまま習えてたら最強だったと思う

[@pallafox]

can someone explain to me why some of the base scores of her 3F+3L combo is below 8 when some are 10+

[@ASRIBEIRIO]

In those cases, her triple loop was under-rotated - meaning she is more than 1/4 (but less than 1/2) of a rotation short of 3 revolutions. This has a reduced base-value of approximately 70% on the jump considered under-rotated.

[@trufau23]

Yuna fans are so patetic! Love you, Mao!!!!

[@nsjsnsjdjdd7757]

You too😚😚

[@Fo4ts]

3F3Lo＜　回転不足じゃない、今これを見てもおかしいthose jumps are not underrotated.Figure skating is a dirty competition.

[@mk-sm4on]

3回転3回転のコンビネーションはやはりループが得意な分なのか、あまり練習してこなかった分なのか、セカンドトーループの際のファースト着氷直後のフリーレッグの使い方が少し気になるとこです。着氷直後に回転を生かしつつ次のジャンプにつなげる為のパワーのタメが、浅田選手の場合弱まってしまう癖がありましたね。それでも2012年シーズンあたりからダブルアクセルがファーストだとしても、すごく流れのいいセカンドがつけられるようになっていました。個人的にはフリップからのトーループも見てみたかったなーというわがままがあります。

[@mmdesu217]

変な自分語り

[@bfffnsgz]

3トゥが苦手ジャンプだったのでセカンドに付けるのが3Loとなって結果的に難度が上昇してしまった。 それだと当然3アクセルに3トゥ付けようなどと考えることはなかったでしょう・・・。

[@HAYABUSAman123]

回転足りてて、エッジもインサイドだけどマイナス評価になってるのがあるのが謎。

[@mfsfs8479]

多分両足で降りちゃってるやつだと思う…

[@nicolemaione7552]

How I hate these comments... Kim and Asada have been two great athletes, two inspirations. One is not better than the other. Race of idiots, we have to love other umans in the world, compare and accept other opinions instead of spit each other in our face! Sorry for my English, I'm Italian. Who wants to understand can understand. These things make me sick.

[@김서준-k5g4q]

Because almost Korean hate Japanese . There are so many Korean anti-comments in Mao’s video.

[@jackblack3934]

バンクーバー前年のGPシリーズから安藤浅田の3-3は潰されたね。足りてても足りない。何やっても認定しない。それどころか3-2からの減点扱い。あのシーズンだけは異常。

[@amateurmoviecreater7369]

2006-2007シーズンの勢いのまま行かれると他の選手(特に韓国のあの人)が絶対的に勝てなくなる程強くなってしまうのでそれを差し止めたんでしょうね…

[@金子太郎-j2l]

@@amateurmoviecreater7369 さん はい、それ以外考えられません。韓国の方、フリップがアウトエッジだと書き込みが、、、、。韓国はフィギュアの歴史が浅いから、にわかファンなのでしょう。 あの方はフリップのエッジはフラットが多かった様な。

[@ボスマロ-r9v]

3F＋3Loはともかく、3F＋3Tは全体的に回転がギリギリ。余裕はないですよ。これは仕方ないかもね。やはりセカンドLoの方が得意だったから。 真央ちゃんの場合は、ジャンプの得意不得意がハッキリ出るタイプだったと思う。

[@ざいか安曇]

@@amateurmoviecreater7369 韓国の 韓国の選手を除いては この時代 審判は厳しかったですよ この動画は ジャンプだけですけれども 韓国の選手はスピンスパイラル ステップどれも ひどかったですけども 浅田選手と同じぐらい点数をもらえていましたよね ジャンプに関しても回転不足でも なぜかkat-tun まで付いていましたよね

[@trufau23]

Te best!!

[@GioMariatex97]

Here there's one (obviously UR, though): search "2012 WORLDS Mao ASADA LP Practice" (we can't put links in the comments)

[@user-tf9tl1si5u]

Kim fan should increase Yuna's video views lol They are always creeping Mao's video.

[@_MAOTA95]

Agreed. Some of them pretend to be Mao fans and come to her videos, but as soon as they make fun of Yuna a little, they show their true colors. They are really ugly!

[@lucyluluzeng]

Mao should not give up 3-3 combination in competition , with 3A and 3-3 comb she could get higher technique score

[@iosebdzamukashvili5360]

She could not do 3-3 and 3 Axel at the same time. They did not allow 3 Axel as a solo jump back then.

[@daphenaxa]

i disagree with some of those < tbh

[@zetsux321]

Who is Yuna?? Oh, that's right. No one. :)

[@antoniothunderhunter8424]

Which one did she do in Sochi in her free program?? 3L 3L right??

[@hJ-js8wv]

It was 3f 3lo combination.

[@tyankanhaneman8793]

着氷の時にグリってるけど回転が足りてるところからグリってるなら問題ないんだよね。 審議がかかりやすいだけで。

[@ktzt0315]

セカンドの3Tも得意だったらなあとは思う ショートで3A,3F-3T,3Lo、みたいな構成もできたはずだしなあ

[@치우천왕만만세]

Under-rotation....triple-double jump.See 8:02-8:06 Landing right foot. exactly double jump.

[@littletinkerbell2559]

Tbh I’m not a hater of Mao,but the entry of her flip jump seems a bit...weird to me. I believe it should have been a straight line entry without a significant change in edge, but Mao do changed her edge from outside to inside right before her takeoff. Maybe it is not a problem technically but it was just kind of strange to me

[@Mxlchn]

Your right. I love Mao but her flips were weird. Going from a mowhawk puts your edge on a flat/outside edge, Shiziku Arakawa had an outside flip. Mao would have gotten a lip if not for rocking back too much onto the inside edge. Your right about it needing to be in a straight line, Mao used her deep inside edge for power in the jump, along with her mule kick, kicking her into the deep inside edge. She did fix her technique though after moving from Tarasova where she did a closed mowhawk and controlled the inside edge better and didn’t rock around. Her deep edge caused her to have a flutz as she no longer felt comfortable on an outside edge. Her 2008-09 seasons still had a flat/kinda outside lutz and pretty much lost it in the 2009-10 season and on. Following Tarasova, she went to fix her lutz and finally got a true lutz in the 2016 nationals

[@김서준-k5g4q]

Korean commenters are so insane

[@vghhjjjj]

트악도 비비기 럿츠 롱엣지 플립 리퍼 살코 룹살코 제대로 할줄 아는 점프 룹 더악 이게 한때 탑싱 수준 스핀 스파이럴은 ....

[@최영수-v7u]

민소희 연아가 워낙 강해서 그렇지 마오 밑 선수들은 저정도도 못했어요...

[@fnb8171]

스핀스텝존구 스파이럴도

[@누구세요저는]

마오 스파이럴은 탑급인디 속도느리다해도 ㄹㅇ 잘했음 트악은 컨시가 구리긴하지만ㅋㅋ

[@fnb8171]

​@@누구세요저는엣지얕음

[@zetsux321]

btw, you said "This is real mocking." That makes no sense in the English language. You made a bunch of other errors, too! :P

[@홍덕영-q3h]

"A little bit toe touch there" ☞+1.8 goe

[@fnb8171]

@@PanchoMaldonado-hf6rq no she has one underrotaded her career

[@fnb8171]

@@PanchoMaldonado-hf6rq no yuna has really one underroted mao bot this is fact!!

[@fnb8171]

@@PanchoMaldonado-hf6rq shut up you just mao bots

[@fnb8171]

@@PanchoMaldonado-hf6rq mao bots

[@lamcy1731]

@@fnb8171 lol wtf is wrong with you. Do you know how to read English?

[@user-yj2dr9ze1t]

아사다 팬은 항상 김연아팬만 시비거는 척하네.. 역시 음침국 나라 그리고 그 팬도 똑같소

[@tengfeicui2712]

quite confusing use of edges, even to the commentators sometimes. She is known for the flutz and now for the lip too, just based on this video. Such a shame for a beautiful skater like Mao.

[@ВладимирДолидзе-й3з]

She didn't have lip, these edges were very obvious inside (but after a change from outside in take-off, yes). The way she took off the flip was confusing for commentators, cause she had very uncharacteristic back entrance for flip.

[@jazmereflores9749]

She is amazing with her 3A, but i find her 3F weird sometimes. A flip needs a straight line on before take off. Hers are overly deep inside edge as suggested textbook flip should have 5° inside edge only. With her deep inside edge, she tends to make a very curve line before take off, and it's weird to watch it for ne

[@anne91276]

gudgns N Enough with your obsession on Money. You must be really greedy yourself.

[@쥬니-h7p]

얘보단 안도미키가 더 나음 안도는 그래도 럿츠는 아웃엣지 정확하게 썼음

[@UofTspark]

no one does triple triple combo better than yuna

[@mitumatu9055]

Yuna can not landed triple loop. and her 3-3 jump is often under-rotated.

[@UofTspark]

can perfectly* she's been doing triple lutz triple toe loop combo from 2009 onwards get your facts right and her jumps are almost never under-rotated. The jumps that were marked under-rotation previously caused some judging controversies by both commentators and retired figure skaters.

[@sengimdann1508]

Shark Park I am not korean or Japanese. I am Cambodian who like Figure skating ⛸ and I am a Figure skater too but my country don’t participate with ISU so yeah

[@fnb8171]

@@sengimdann1508 mao bots

[@fnb8171]

@@mitumatu9055 no maos 33 is often underotaded

[@엡베벱뻬]

점프 진짜 노답이었구나.... 엣지만 문제가 아니라 걍 죄다 야매였네... 뭐 연아가 예술성 마오가 기술이랬는데 그것도 다 헛소리... 그래도 마오 음악 잘뽑은거 보면 좋긴 좋았음... 스텝에 트위즐 범벅이라 하는데 그래도 생동감 넘치긴함... 차라리 트악 포기하고... 러츠까진 못하더라도 연결점프를 3으로 챙겼으면 연아랑 그나마 좁혔을 수도 ㄷ ㄷ

[@fnb8171]

둘다연아

[@y00000min]

真央ちゃんてコンビネーションジャンプのバリエーションあんまないね F-TかF-Loだけか ルッツとサルコウが跳べないのか

[@amateurmoviecreater7369]

ルッツとサルコウは苦手なので、コンビネーションにするよりかは単独にして、他の得意なジャンプをコンビネーションにした方が確実に点が取れます。ルッツからのコンビネーションもありましたけど、エッジエラー制度が導入された2007-2008シーズンからは単独のみで跳ぶようになりました。 因みにコンビネーションジャンプ自体の種類を見ると、3連続では2A+2Lo+2Loを2007-2008シーズンに、2連続では3Lo+2Loを2010-2011シーズンと2013-2014シーズンに跳んでいました。意外とバリエーション自体はあるんですよ。

[@ボールミート-l4x]

得意不得意がはっきりしているので、リカバリーとかはしにくかったかもですね。

[@Hantakc]

2foot landing ..but