Mappy - Clones Comparison - Atari 2600 PUSHED to its LIMITS!!!

Comparison video Mappy clones (Namco 1983), featuring gameplay of the following versions:
0:00 Fujitsu Micro 7 / FM-7 (Little Gang) (1983)
1:03 Sharp X68000 (N. Kei) (1988)
2:20 Sharp X68000 (Yopino) (1990)
3:33 MSX2 (2014)
4:25 MSX2 (SCC Version) (2014)
5:24 ColecoVision (2016)
6:21 Atari 2600 (2018)
7:26 Flash (Marippy)
8:14 NES / Famicom hack (Bounce) (2000)
8:58 NES / Famicom hack (Mappy 30th Anniversary Edition) (2015)
9:52 Other NES hacks:
Rabi~en~Rose (1999)*
Mario Mappy (2000)
Takeshikun 2 (2002)
Mappy Kunio (2004)
Marippy (2007)
The Jehovah's Witnesses (2007)
Mario and Goombas (2010)
Outlast (2015)
Mappy MZ-700 NO PCG
Mappy Lode Runner
* Appears named as Rabbit and Rope in many sites.
We are proud to premiere this new section on our channel: clones comparison. In this place, you will find unofficial ports, homebrews and hacks of the retro games we love.
It is very difficult to find all clones of a game and, despite all our efforts, surely we are forgetting something. If so, don't hesitate to tell us which game is missing and we will consider making a second part of the video.
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[@retrosutra]

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[@DDRUTOU]

Whoever did the 2600 version deserves a fricken medal!!! The sound quality was better than the NES

[@RetroKidKnuckles]

He does

[@ashkirby8896]

The 30th anniversary Famicom hack is the best one and the most impressive one here(even more so than the Atari 2600 DPC+ version), because it uses the Namco 163 to use the original Namco WSG wavetable waveforms from the original arcade game, making it sound perfectly completely identical to the original arcade game!😄🤩😎👌

[@Js.xd25]

The music is similar to the arcade version

[@anaasccp2033]

@@ashkirby8896 I have a emulator and the original game of arcade of Mappy

[@DDRUTOU]

@@basiccatplush5247 Well compared to modern consoles, yeah it does. But........I digress. You're entitled to your wrong opinion

[@Asterra2]

Without a doubt, the homebrew Mappy on the 2600 is the most impressive thing the 2600 has ever seen or is ever likely to see. And that is really saying something. In the entire history of video gaming, there will never be another platform that more dramatically exceeds what its designers intended. The system was designed for "super Pong" and "tank game", and for the first couple of years, that's all the sort of game it got. But the "racing the beam" architecture allowed for so much more. Mappy on the 2600 is more advanced than most games on the ColecoVision, which was an entire generation removed-five years' difference, back when five years of gaming evolution was effectively revolutionary.

[@ashkirby8896]

The 30th anniversary Famicom hack is the best one and the most impressive one here(even more so than the Atari 2600 DPC+ version), because it uses the Namco 163 to use the original Namco WSG wavetable waveforms from the original arcade game, making it sound perfectly completely identical to the original arcade game!😄🤩😎👌

[@Asterra2]

@@ashkirby8896 Ah, talking about the music? Sure. Technically nothing stopping a similar hack from making its way into the TIA pipeline the same way 4 additional but generic voices are had from homebrew Mappy. I was talking more about the visual representation. When the Atari VCS launched, it was technically more capable than almost anything in *arcades* at the time. To give some perspective, the Odyssey 2 launched a year later and wasn't even half as capable, but made a great deal more sense as a progression from what qualified as gaming platforms in those days. It did not "race the beam"-it was constructed by the numbers, with a lot of needlessly expensive and comparatively underpowered parts. The VCS's potential was years beyond what developers were prepared for. And, again, this was largely accidental.

[@garfieldandfriends7981]

Ever heard of Zippy the Porcupine on the Atari 2600? Sure, it's not related to Mappy, but it's an entire Sonic clone with scrolling, 16 whole levels, 5 boss fights, collectable gems, bonus stages, and even an ending! And it actually looks and plays alright!

[@ashkirby8896]

@@Asterra2 I’m talking graphic wise(the graphics of the Famicom version looks close to the original arcade version) and sound wise(since the Namco 163 is a derivative of the Namco WSG used in the original arcade game)!😄

[@rajanorashikin8680]

theres sprite flicker

[@mehdihachani7513]

Awesome new concept ! I hope we can see more videos like this next time !

[@TheBigDynamo]

I can now live my life knowing that someone made a rom hack of Mappy by putting Kunio-Kun in it. Thanks

[@ashkirby8896]

7:26 I remember playing the Marippy version back in my early teenagehood, but I never knew it was a Touhou fan game!😄🤩😎👌

[@DreaDreamzTV]

Touhou Sucks!

[@DreaDreamzTV]

Also, you're everywhere.

[@MauveDash]

​@@DreaDreamzTVExcept for the music

[@NoobGamer64-gj4ic]

Speaking about Touhou flash fangame. There Splatterhouse x Touhou flash fangame called SplatterFaith

[@churrogaming5621]

Why are you everywhere

[@Red_Planet]

Oh my god the god damn love colored master spark-mappy remix in Marippy… 😂

[@rickonami]

6:20 NO WAY?!!

[@Sinistar1983]

Blew my mind

[@Colonel-Llama]

And that’s not even the final version! The final, which is only available physically also contains support for high score saving and even has an hidden easter egg!

[@mrp4242]

Impressive

[@Colonel-Llama]

@@MrOdiwan IIRC it was a hidden credits screen. Found it by accident. If you are a fan of the original, i’m sure you’ll be able to find it. Took me some time to figure out how i triggered it but it’s actually very simple if you know how to play.

[@Escanimations]

I think they used a chip.There’s no way Atari 2600 could reproduce that

[@MuzikJunky]

Wow, the 2600 version looks incredible! Imagine what they could have done back in the days with lovingly produced ports such as that! Peace.

[@litjellyfish]

Well problem is That at they time the size of this cart would be incredible expensive. They did not have as good dev environment and also the time put into this would have been to long back then. So it’s a bit of unrealistic scenario so to speak.

[@williamdrum9899]

Today we have Notepad++ and emulation for easy testing and debug. Back then the computer you were using to making the game was almost the same as the console itself so it was much more difficult

[@litjellyfish]

@@williamdrum9899 ever more so. Like live debug Integration with VS code. Rom and ram viewer etc. scripts. Better screens etc etc. Back then dev was as much write pseudo code and gfx on paper and test in head and do now and then validation on real hardware to see if it worked or not. I would almost compare it to manufacturing today in general with hard crafting items houndred years ago.

[@ZylonBane]

This version of Mappy would have been impossible back in the days, because it has an ARM chip in the cartridge that helps out with, basically, manipulating the 2600's audio-video hardware faster than the 6507 ever could.

[@ashkirby8896]

The 30th anniversary Famicom hack is the best one and the most impressive one here(even more so than the Atari 2600 DPC+ version), because it uses the Namco 163 to use the original Namco WSG wavetable waveforms from the original arcade game, making it sound perfectly completely identical to the original arcade game!😄🤩😎👌

[@SONICBOOM1889]

The Sharp X68000 port by Yopino is absolutely incredible.

[@luisreyes1963]

Did you know the computers in that version resemble the Sharp X68000?

[@Mrhellacat]

Wonder how they did the audio on the 2600

[@jasminejohnston6393]

They added an extra chip inside the cartridge to expand the RAM

[@Colonel-Llama]

Same way as in Pitfall II

[@AlexParr]

They used either the DPC+, which is basically the DPC chip (from Pitfall 2) but with some upgrades if I remember correctly, or the Melody chip.

[@johnnywc23]

Hi there! I am the developer of Mappy for the 2600; the sound was done using the DPC chip that is also used for the music in Pitfall 2. :)

[@BokBarber]

@@johnnywc23 Amazing work! It's crazy that a machine designed to be little more than a Pong clone can be pushed that far, even with the DPC.

[@jefferee2002]

The Atari 2600 version is amazing!

[@Windows_mexicano]

Yes

[@Jeansowaty]

@Titan Jonathan fucking fakes.

[@theyeeter5171]

@@Jeansowaty SHUT UP MAN

[@lowercaseuuppercaseU]

@@theyeeter5171 you shut up

[@TheShenonOverDrive]

Yhea

[@TruculentSheep]

Some serious sorcery going on in the VCS version.

[@mattiemartin5971]

1:03 4:29 and 6:27 are my favorite versions.

[@mattiemartin5971]

9:02

[@chrisbarone515]

I realized Mappy hasn't got much attention as Pacman, Galaga, Dig Dug, and even Q*Bert.

[@jerrygose5602]

The Music a perfect 10/10 0:13

[@TLC737]

My ears!!!!!!

[@s.r.a.d.p.l1571]

1:20 that literally sounds like hell

[@ilikeminecraft1232]

Nope

[@staspastukh2005]

Why not? This version literally sounds like Sega Mega Drive, rather than hell.

[@ilikeminecraft1232]

@@staspastukh2005 they don't have the same sound chip!

[@kikasuru3826]

7:26 oh hey marisa

[@VinsCool]

Oooh so now you make videos about the homebrew and bootleg versions,very cool!

[@PacGuy765]

Whenever I see “Mario Mappy”, this would be the storyline: Luigi is sick of being “Number 2” so he turns to a life of crime in stealing valuables with his Koopa minions

[@higoizmahnameiszetcat]

1:04 theye just made a remastered version

[@ziggysimpsonofficial]

they did? what's it look like?

[@deleteable.]

@@ziggysimpsonofficial bro??

[@ponganunbuennombreaqui]

Its how a snes port

[@chec0e]

@@ponganunbuennombreaqui The music reminds me of the Sega genesis

[@mehdihachani7513]

I love a the "bounce" music is just the music of the original but the notes are just put in a random order

[@vincenzomottola7778]

The Atari 2600 version pushed the limits because it used an extra chip called the "Melody" that adds more RAM and better sound

[@retrosutra]

Thank you for the info, Vincenzo!

[@tarstarkusz]

No. The DPC+ chip is what you are thinking of. It's the chip in pitfall2. The cartridge that makes Mappy work is way more than just RAM. There is a computer in that cartridge doing all the work. The TIA is doing the display and the sound, but is not tied up doing things like running the game.

[@carl_the_]

Did you know the Flash clone of Mappy, called Marippy (which also has a NES "port") was based off of the Touhou franchise?

[@mintwolff.-jellybeansquad-4920]

Are we not gonna talk about how great the intro music is in this video

[@JoLiKMC]

09:51 - That, my friend, is a _Di Gi Charat_ ROM hack. It should be called "Rabi~en~Rose". You play as Hikaru Usada, a girl who wants to be a famous idol as Rabi~en~Rose, the rabbit without worries! But, your rivals, the spoiled princess Dejiko and her sidekick(s) Puchiko, are out to stop you at every turn! Can you live life on your own and achieve your dream of becoming an idol?

[@retrosutra]

Thank you for the info @Jo Li!

[@BlackBloodCombatClub]

Hikaru Usada, huh? I wonder if she is related to Pekora

[@theyeeter5171]

@@BlackBloodCombatClub You're a Virus

[@heridan6467]

Hikaru usada? Sheesh, usada pekora :0

[@leroyvisiongames2294]

I found that Takeshikun 2 hack yesterday by accident and damn near died laughing when I loaded up the ROM. I don’t know what I was expecting but I certainly wasn’t expecting Takeshi’s Challenge X Mappy!!!!

[@reimufan205]

Why is the Touhou (Marippy) version just too cute?!?!

[@FumoReimuGaming]

P

[@batcat2338]

AWESOME

[@retro_reflections]

That 2600 version really is absolutely amazing. Reckon I might have to hunt that down...

[@williamruiz5965]

You should be able to find it on the AtariAge website, if that helps!

[@ashkirby8896]

The 30th anniversary Famicom hack is the best one and the most impressive one here(even more so than the Atari 2600 DPC+ version), because it uses the Namco 163 to use the original Namco WSG wavetable waveforms from the original arcade game, making it sound perfectly completely identical to the original arcade game!😄🤩😎👌

[@RustyLeguito]

Quite curious!

[@b.r727]

KUNIO me encanta, no sabía que existia MUCHAS GRACIAS :)

[@Xx_Henry_xX]

x68k N.Kei version features x68k as the PC nice one

[@juangutierrez5400]

Yay more of my favorite game.

[@EmeraldoTheDragon]

7:26 Ah, yes, my favourite Flash game: Ri Ma Ppy

[@UltraEpicLeader10020]

It's Marippy

[@lucianothewindowsfan]

@@UltraEpicLeader10020 r/woooosh

[@EmeraldoTheDragon]

I had a feeling this would happen. I knew I should've added a sarcasm indicator.

[@EmeraldoTheDragon]

@@UltraEpicLeader10020 coughitwasajokecough

[@retroscener]

Atari 2600 version blows all the other ports clean out of the water because of its technical feat.

[@williamdrum9899]

My favorite is the last one, the surprised carrot cracks me up

[@robbiezampini-is3en]

Game Start, Round Theme, Round Clear, and Title Screen

[@rolingthunder8612]

hay, in the spirit of one of my favorite youtubers, I'd appreciate it if you could do hyankyo alien.

[@basicallysnake]

I thought that the Mario one had Mario’s prototype sprites

[@BrianFan7650]

That's Great! Rom Link of Mappy for Colecovision?

[@arlesluna5001]

The music fron the Atari 2600 port sounds impresive for a system with only 2 audio channels

[@sergiofls7623]

it's using a external sound chip for the music, though

[@yuliindrayani7623]

@@sergiofls7623 still 4 channel

[@tsunderecat413]

touhou mappy was not something i expected to see. also i assume the anniversary version of the nes port uses the namco 163 chip for audio?

[@sup1658]

Who made the remix in the beginning of the video?

[@maxthompson7107]

It could *not* have been easy to make Mappy on the Atari 2600. This version of Mappy has to be the most polished Atari game I've ever seen.

[@cristianmastrocicco4552]

I wonder how an Atari 7800 + POKEY sound chip port would be

[@javawocky]

I am surprised I haven't seen a C64 version yet. But that 2600 is very impressive.

[@mxsteri0]

for sure- 😫🤚

[@williamdrum9899]

1:08 Funnily enough Kid Icarus uses this font for its start screen as well

[@ibrs121]

Colecovision is what the orignal MSX1 version should have been!!

[@yodhefim]

But MSX-1 version was made in the '80s by NAMCOT. I have played this game on an MSX-1! :)

[@xXTheoLinuxXx]

@@yodhefim I still have the tape for the MSX-1, but ibrs121 isn't wrong. The sprites on the Colecovision are better.

[@yodhefim]

@@xXTheoLinuxXx Ok.

[@ChrisStriker]

The Sharp X80000 is a copy but had a Namco licence

[@b1battledroidslivesmatter701]

Out of all the other games that could be merged with this Touhou was not one I’d think of

[@TopRetroGames]

Good clones.

[@rolingthunder8612]

that second x68000 port could pass for an official port from dempa themselves.

[@AnimationMaster167]

The Music was awesome that you used for the beggining and for the rest of NES rom hacks! Also, I'm happy you used a Super Game Module game!

[@official_LittleBigJ]

9:49 WHAT VERSION OF THE MAPPY THEME IS THIS CALLED!!!! PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!! (thanks)

[@anaasccp2033]

1:03 I like the second version of the Mappy

[@mattybsonicroboblast2yesja221]

How do i Download Mappy for Colecovision?

[@kirstenkees755]

I’m really surprised about 2 things on this video. First of all, How Could the NES Do The 30th anniversary edition’s version’s music?! I got my mind blown 🤯 and the second one is the Atari 2600. How did it do the music? Is that normal? Do they use those instruments on their old video games? Normally, maybe no? But anyway, that was an interesting video! 👍🏻

[@fran5678can]

Both NES 30th Anniversary and Atari 2600 had a special sound chip. I can't remember the NES sound chip but for Atari they used the Pokey soundchip which sounds SUPERB.

[@fran5678can]

Correction: wasn't a Pokey, instead they used the DPC+ chip.

[@AngryCalvin]

A much more difficult game to port than games like Donkey Kong. Even the Famicom version had 1 less floor on the screen. The Japanese Computer ports are near arcade perfect but were not released until the late 80's or even decades after. I remember riding bikes to the gas station and popping quarters into Donkey Kong. A new game called Mappy was put next to the Donkey Kong Arcade cabinet. The gas station was torn down and the Mappy cabinet ended up at a Shopko nearby the next decade and people were still playing it. My favorite arcade game during the earlier golden age of arcade games. 1984, the year after Mappy, arcade games were entering a new era.

[@BrianFan7650]

How do i Get Bounce?

[@stevenwhuntva]

What makes the Sharp ones clones? Are they unlicensed?

[@rolingthunder8612]

I believe the proper term you're looking for is dougin, litterally meaning self published. basicly an indi game.

[@thedinobros1218]

Mappy needs an official Atari 2600 port, Atari still exists, they can still do it for the 2600+.

[@ZikoRenamon]

where i gound Lode Runner ?

[@Fidoisthecoolestguyever]

The sharp x sounds like Mappy if it was on the sega genesis

[@Fidoisthecoolestguyever]

The N. Kei one btw

[@chuckthequail137]

a Mappy in Full Screen!?!?

[@churrogaming5621]

Why are you everywhere too

[@chuckthequail137]

@@churrogaming5621 I don't know.

[@streled5361]

Wait, why was Mario in Lode Runner?

[@shaun6204]

IMA SUPERSTART

[@axtrifonov]

MSX2 version looks like a port from MSX1, and Colecovision version looks like a port from ZX Spectrum

[@xXTheoLinuxXx]

The MSX2 version is way better than the MSX1 version. The Colecovision version is more like an improved MSX version. Mappy wasn't available for the ZX Spectrum.

[@ilikeminecraft1232]

Rabbit and rope: www.emulatorgames.net/roms/nintendo/rabbit-and-rope-mappy-hack/ Hopmappy: www.emulatorgames.net/roms/mame/hopmappy/ Mappy sharp x68000 n kei: www.emulatorgames.net/roms/sharp-x68000/mappy-1988-n-kei/ Mappy sharp x68000 yophino: www.emulatorgames.net/roms/sharp-x68000/mappy-1990-yopino/ mappy msx: www.emulatorgames.net/roms/msx-computer/mappy/ mario mappy: www.emulatorgames.net/roms/nintendo/mario-mappy-mappy-hack/

[@michaelsegal3558]

They were still making NES games in 2000?

[@mimz.mp4]

How are these sound capabilities on the NES?! Sounds like the arcade version👌

[@Windows_mexicano]

I liked the Sharp console part and the Atari part

[@floppa3087]

I saw the fire flower from super mario in the game called bounce

[@guillermogazanol1729]

I saw that too

[@N0Thin_here]

I,m just confused about the dates like "Atari 2600 (2018)" is that when the game was released???

[@jacksonforver4267]

Probably Drunk When Making the Description

[@retrosutra]

Yes, I have to admit that I was drunk but the Atari 2600 game is a homebrew port that was released that year.

[@Colonel-Llama]

The game was released in october 2018 if i recall correctly. The version shown here is a near finished pre-release build from summer 2018. It is missing some polish and AtariVox/SaveKey support but is 100% playable.

[@jacksonforver4267]

@@retrosutra now I'm Confused

[@BrianFan7650]

How the Heck do i Get Mappy for MSX2?

[@ilikeminecraft1232]

mappy msx: www.emulatorgames.net/roms/msx-computer/mappy/

[@armandogerardodeleonchitica]

The game of the sharp x68000 is a fangame

[@Manontheinternet-tt5tn]

Sharp X68000 sounds like a sega genesis remix

[@BrianFan7650]

How do i get Mappy Colecovision

[@williamdrum9899]

It's a homebrew, not a game that was officially made

[@fezblock100]

The flash version is waaaay different than the other onez

[@m.firzafadmaputra9569]

Next : Puzzle Bobble clones comparison Breakout clones comparison Jaguar XJ220 comparisons Top Gear 1 comparisons Top Gear 2 comparisons Bomberman comparisons

[@NatnatGaming101]

Lode runner's my favorite one

[@shnobi_wrrior]

Why is mario in mappy?

[@ThatOneSuperCircuitGuy]

1:04 kinda like a SNES game

[@ilikeminecraft1232]

SNES Uses the Nintendo S-SMP and Sharp x68000 uses the Yamaha YM2151

[@a_tojz648]

6:21If this version had really been released to the world, Atari might have been safe forever. But that didn't happen. Why not? Because they were busy working on the infamous E.T.

[@ashkirby8896]

The 30th anniversary Famicom hack is the best one and the most impressive one here(even more so than the Atari 2600 DPC+ version), because it uses the Namco 163 to use the original Namco WSG wavetable waveforms from the original arcade game, making it sound perfectly completely identical to the original arcade game!😄🤩😎👌

[@kirstenkees755]

Yeah the 30th Anniversary Hack was SO CLEVER that I couldn’t believe my eyes, so it has blown my mind 🤯 with star eyes of course 🤩

[@harleyfenner1926]

My first thought after reading the header was Mappy on the Atari 2600 was gonna suck ass, no way it was gonna be any good. But after seeing the video, my initial thought was horribly wrong. Mappy actually was ported very well onto the 2600 all things considered. Mappy may have pushed the 2600 to its limits and turned out to be a good rendition of the game. If I had known Mappy was ported to the 2600 back in the 80s, I definitely would have wanted to snag up a copy of the game and just leave it in my Atari 2600 cartridge slot, cause I'd always be playing it. Lol

[@ashkirby8896]

The 30th anniversary Famicom hack is the best one and the most impressive one here(even more so than the Atari 2600 DPC+ version), because it uses the Namco 163 to use the original Namco WSG wavetable waveforms from the original arcade game, making it sound perfectly completely identical to the original arcade game!😄🤩😎👌

[@AirSkyyy]

Theme Remix Name?

[@quandaleprogg]

I hope someone will make an intellivison port in the future

[@quandaleprogg]

@Is a Bell Video Effects & Vyonder 984 // IABVE&V984 and some more obscure systems

[@davidthecommenter]

seing people imitate/mock the MZ-700 version is hilarious like bro you really altered all these designs because this one version of the game did it? damn

[@BerryTheKirby2748]

The sharp X68000 sounds better and has great music

[@ziggysimpsonofficial]

the most absolute favorite is the flash

[@mr.tie-rex9577]

The Game Gear felt close to the arcades.

[@Vocho95]

I played Bounce of the NES

[@fco64]

8:58 wait...The graphics should also look different

[@jasonlee7816]

why would the graphics (visuals) look different?

[@fco64]

@@jasonlee7816 Because its a pack with arcade graphic sorry for answering you so late

[@DreaDreamzTV]

11:45 Mario&Bomberman, What're You Guys Doing Here?! 0_O

[@nicky-magalynegron6292]

wow.

[@8bitenial313]

9:50 techno Mappy o_O

[@lowercaseuuppercaseU]

11:32 cart whells

[@lowercaseuuppercaseU]

S E G A G E N I N S

[@antoniojoserunez4165]

What about Flashback: The Quest for Identity?

[@retrosutra]

It would be very nice. I take note of that.

[@nathansantiago3177]

Mine was Mappy The 30th Anniversary