Start Tanking NOW! You’ll Thank Me Later

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[@MarcelianOnline]

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[@tylerharvey1707]

My biggest hangup on tanking is not knowing perfect speed routes for every dungeon and most seem unwilling to wait

[@KoH4711]

Queue as DPS a few times before tanking to learn the routes first.

[@MarcelianOnline]

Do smaller keys to get accustomed, start by saying "hey guys, learning the ropes, have some patience with me please" or just say it before the key starts and let people leave the group if they have a problem. Saves you the issue of them leaving mid key, and you can eventually find people that are willing to be patient. You would be surprised :D, just need to communicate

[@CatDad312]

That was my issue at first but run some M0’s for a week and you’ll get it down quickly. Playing with a guild or group of friends in voice makes a big difference while learning too.

[@CatDad312]

@@MarcelianOnlineYup. Start by posting an M0 and saying “New tank learning” and you’ll get players that are more patient usually

[@pascalwagner92]

Doesn't matter man i started running around like an idiot in dungeons. Just do it people don't know you💪🫡

[@salty_potato_uwu]

My issue with tanking after the nerfs is that wow team STILL doesnt understand their own game. Why did the nerfs happen? Most likely bcs of the ongoing arms race between wow team and 0.1% M+ players... as always... I dont mind doing way less damage than dps but if my selfsustain gets nerfed meaning if I feel like I dont have control over the fight as a tank then my enjoyment goes out the window. Plus I really wish classes would be stronger with their skill ceiling. It took me a bit to learn to play brewmaster really well and what do I get for it? underperforming tank which doesnt even do damage as it used to. I think wow team should look more into tanking in other games and stop having this thing "it was always this way so its the right way"

[@Skuggi88]

most players do not want to interact with the toxic M+ community especially as a tank or healer. Why would someone want to be mistreated by random kids who think they are top %1 players? I've played for over 17yrs and I stopped tanking when my rl friends stopped playing.

[@leonardceres9061]

I have been a tank man for years. Matter fact, I got the idea of tanking when I first started playing my very first MMORPG back in 1999 called EverQuest. Back then I didn’t even know what a tank was. Somebody told me to go pull a mob and tank it while they helped me kill it. I was playing a warrior at the time. Ever since then I kind of just gravitated toward the role. I have been taking a break from it over the past several years though because I just wanted to relax and push my little key bindings and do my rotation and that’s it people have gotten to the pointwhere they criticize and complain about every little thing and I’m not afraid to tell someone about themselves. So to avoid arguments I just played DPS. Keep my mouth shut and follow the group.

[@simonepaolini7687]

The problem of tanking is raid … only 2 tank needed in every raid … 2 tank in 30 spot … In a guild or u are sure to tank or offtank or u never play as a tank …

[@Guldfisken90]

Find a guild that needs a tank then :)

[@Boretooth]

/makes everything harder for healers and tanks Blizzard: Why are there no healers or tanks!?!?!?!1111oneone?!

[@PowDJoke]

To me ranking and healing have never being that fun. Making it harder makes it engaging !

[@TheRunner3D]

ive been playing all the roles. dps is the most fun, healer is the hardest, tank is the easiest (and boring'ish). What balances itself is how quickly you can find pugs as healer/tank compared to dps

[@TonyJ1776]

@@PowDJoke Fidget Spinner generation agrees.

[@CosmicCleric]

@@PowDJoke Too hard/work makes it an UNfun recreational activity.

[@inkedgemini]

@@TheRunner3D Funny how I would say tank is the hardest because it traditionally requires the most upfront knowledge of the activity. Healer can be hardest is your group doesn't care about their performance and responsibilities and you're trying to save the day constantly. DPS has always been the easiest role, you just follow along and pew pew and occasionally remember you have an interrupt if you manage to move out of stuff on the ground in time.

[@WoWUndad]

Truth is 99.999% of wow players(i have 20 years of experience) cant handle the single step out of the fire mechanic per dungeon, so leading as a tank is around a 10000x skill gap

[@Obyvak]

i agree from healer perspective :D

[@MarcelianOnline]

Lol, definitely feels like that sometimes!

[@EriSenshur]

Sounds about right (12 yrs as tank 18 as healer)

[@CosmicCleric]

Another twenty year WoW vet here. Mechanics need to be signaled better (ex.: the wave graphic that is backwards and the bad area is marked in green instead of red). People don't want to learn up front, they want real-time reactive indications that make sense for them and are seeable in all of the graphics overload (especially as they get older and see less well). Personally I turned off the damage numbers flying about and that helped a little bit. More and BETTER UX design needs to go into fights so that people can be reactive and not have to be proactive (like FFXIV does basically).

[@cmoney163]

So true 😭😂

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

Tanking m+ stresses the fuck out of me did a couple 3s with my 606 bdk and i survive fine but people just die left and right never been able to time a 3. Pugging can be so frustrating and it sucks cause pugging is all i could do since my time is limited.

[@Guldfisken90]

The issue is mostly tied to said key level, since the lower level you go, the worse people tend to perform, as their experience and skills are not good enough for higher keys. That being said, you can 100% find smoothbrains even in high keys, that's clearly been boosted

[@Davaoization]

The amount of Brewmasters just spinning jade kicking and never tossing a cask is astonishing atm... then wondering why the dungeon isnt going smooth or they arent keeping aggro on every single boss

[@MarcelianOnline]

Wow, haven't seen a single monk :))

[@EriSenshur]

I main brew and if you EVER see me spin like a damn beyblade it means I got my breath of fire proc and want to abuse it

[@percivall7629]

​@MarcelianOnline just you wait, bruv >:)

[@kylescott7654]

Funny enough i stopped tanking because i got tired of dealing with the dps in my groups. now im dealing with the random tanks. vicious cycle lmao

[@rehmsmeyer]

Go heals so you can get angry at both.

[@Kottery]

Big mood, I've been a healer main for years, but I started tanking after getting aggravated with bad tanks. Now I'm aggravated at healers that can't play their class for shit.

[@Srelathon]

Prot Paladin is so painful rn man. It's always been my favorite class and nothing has ever made me hate playing it as much as M+ is rn. It's literally so bad that I have better luck getting invited to groups as Ret than Prot, despite being over 2k rated and at 613 ilvl.

[@Guldfisken90]

I feel you, as a Hpal main, that quests and does delves as prot, i'm getting clap even at that difficulty "610 ivl 2.1k"

[@CosmicCleric]

@@Guldfisken90 "Prot Paladin is so painful rn man." Why? Can you elaborate?

[@IMTWOHUGE]

@@CosmicCleric hard to explain but in short, main defensive is consc and its a tiny area. All dungeons rn require lots of movement. 20 different buttons and its a useful class with tons of aoe/cleave but, def feels like a wet noodle 7+ (618 2430 prot)

[@alexjansengaming2382]

Love the 74 deaths at lvl 4 at 7:36

[@seankennedy9662]

Tanking is rough now. I feel so squishy, even as a bear tank while blowing through my defensive and healing CDs. 601 iLvl and I’m getting hit so hard in lower M+.

[@inkedgemini]

I don't personally think tanking is rough or that tanks are actually squishy. They certainly have less self-sustain, but also "low M+" isn't actually traditional low keys anymore and I think this escapes a lot of people post dungeon re-work. The number might be low, but the difficulty is not.

[@Gumblethebear]

The question is WHY can’t you find tanks. At this point lugging past a 3 on a tank is a horrible idea. Tanking is great, TWW tanking is not

[@seankennedy9662]

Agreed. Been a tank in mmos for over 20 years and for years on wow. This is the least fun Ive had as a tank.

[@quannguyen-op1ur]

Less Defensive and More Tank Buster - Idk why Blizz thinks it is fcking cool for Tanks ??? Trash mobs from Grim Batol are filled with Tank Buster ffs and other dungeon stressed out the Tank and Healer so bad. Fck Blizz

[@stupidthoughts9635]

Ran a time walking dungeon with my boomy. Tank kept dragging casters out of my solar beam, silences casters inside it, and kept taking big damage from them.

[@CosmicCleric]

Good video. I wish I could play a tank reactively and not proactively. Really hate having to study and memorize everything up front, as I would rather learn as I go. And speaking of, wish I could pug while learning to tank, but the toxicity of pugs makes that impossible, unfortunately.

[@kurogane_b-wolf]

mate i was really thnking about a change up in my roles i play. was a main healer for so long and tried dps, wasnt getting the feels for it. went back to healing and just suddenly felt like i was burntout from healing entirely. Went into my guild raid just a couple nights ago and then when we heard that both our guild tanks were busy with irl stuff, our guild went into panic mode. Since i have been thinking for the last couple of weeks about maybe trying out tanking for the first time, i was having anxieties about the role and this video just helped me make up my mind. Also having some conversation with my guild friends about the tanking role last night made me want to try Blood DK even more. I still have some anxieties of this role but hey i'll give it a go. I needed this change up.

[@desertdust8255]

Omg 🤣🤣 "Mage mongoing on it like it just stole it's car keys..." You really have a way with words (and I feel a bit called out there as dps honestly lol) I'm still laughing over that one. Thanks for this! 💪👍 you're awesome

[@MarcelianOnline]

😁

[@zdravkomartinov]

biggest problem for tanks is Raids and Guilds only need 2 tanks. Therefore the groups that matter never really need a tank since the role is already taken. And when the population doesnt main a tank for this reason , the dungeons that need a tank are always in a deficit. Raiding needs to change to need more tank, not just 2.

[@Herz.Und.Hartzlich]

Today i tanked a +6 with my 600 ilvl guardian druid and got a compliment from my group, i felt appreciated 🥺

[@H3yPshot]

Idk I just did a time walking dung on my bear and was full hp pulled the mods and dead ass got one shot just dropped dead completely kills tanking for me

[@MarcelianOnline]

Timewalking doesn't scale properly, do normal content :P

[@CatDad312]

Yup, Timewalking scaling is not very good. Tanking heroic dungeons then M0 after you are more comfortable is the best path to learning.

[@H3yPshot]

Oh ok I've never really had an issue befor but I do miss tanking

[@stupidthoughts9635]

​@@MarcelianOnline but two runs per level!

[@Arja021]

Great video, guys! Another reason to start taking is to be a havoc DH who keeps eating frontals and decides that maybe that's where you should be to begin with. Now to get the hang of those paladin defensives. ❤

[@towelie5997]

I love tanking but i hate the speedrunning that has to happen every single fucking time even on normal or heroic. Tried to get back into tanking with tww and while i'm still trying to learn my spec and the dungeon mechanics simultaneously i get yeeted around by some ritalin priest while the ADHD DH pulls the entire room. Calm the fuck down, people. No wonder noone wants to tank.

[@NexxusLIVE]

I tank but can't raid because of limited raid spots

[@syxqid3818]

I would love to tank but everytime i have a dps who thinks he needs to pull everything and so the fun is gone.😅 Give dps also in low content onehits and they maybe learn it. :/

[@PackCentral]

Brewmaster monk Stagger unique tanking style is SO fun I recommend everybody give it a try

[@Keksbrecher]

" You´ll TANK me later"

[@cmoney163]

GET OUT

[@zetakirby]

i always wanted to try 4 tanks in a raid 2 main tanks and two off-tanks to deal with adds, stop raid fights just being single target and add more cleave, to many mechanics are just becoming overwhelming reducing them and adding adds that have the same mechanics that just have to be killed would make both parts of the fight feel rewarding adding more consistent and clear burn phase. it sucks watching people pop all their cooldowns and then RP kicks in, a bubble happens, and were just running around the room waiting for cds to come back

[@HeathenTrucker]

That's been tested for 2b decades. Doesn't work due to enrage timers

[@Thorkou]

my issue atm is not the tanking when trying to put a group together its hours of waiting for people to que up, i remember in df and even shadowlands the ques were full of people wanting to join.. but the changes kinda ruined M+ cause no one wants to que for them anymore. so like I've been trying to do my key all week but can't and even trying to pug into groups wont help to reroll my key I'm kinda just stuck not being able to run M+ cause of the class I chose or my key rolled onto the bad dungeon of the week.

[@Kreky95]

I think the big problem is the superficiality where everyone is following "tier lists" even though on low keys it's relatively indifferent. And high keys as someone noted here are frequented by 0.1% of people. Another cool thing is the "dmg/dps meters", where I don't even have aggro and dps are already going full dmg to avoid accidentally being a few numbers down in the meter and then just screaming "hey aggro, I'm dead". I play prot paladin and it's a lot of times pain where my HP is jumping up, down and I keep turning on all the def spells on CD and stacking "shining light" on instat heal all the time, god forbid when I run out of CDs I'm done.

[@Equ1n0x88]

I have been playing bear thank since Legion. I am so happy right now ;). Almost as happy as in Shadowlands Season 1.

[@SomeGuyFromUtah]

For me the thing i don't like about tanking is that theres not always place for you in a raid. MaybeI'm weird but i like tanking... if i focus on tanking i don't want to be forced into dps in raids because you only need 2. Not the biggest problem now since 10 man raiding is a thing but it can be hard to find a spot.

[@thomasadams8463]

Theres no way i could play a pure dps class, because like you said you CANNOT get into a dungeon as dps in a reasonable time. Im thankful i have a great guild because id be exclusively tanking/healing otherwise

[@jani14jani]

I started tanking at the third season of DF. So far i've played around 60% tank and 40% DPS in TWW. For those who have tanking anxiety because of routes. If you're not doing really high push keys. Use the routes of those 5 to 10min guide videos you can find from youtube. They're more than good enough unless you're doing super high push keys. You can practice the routes in M0 since there is no timer. The jump from heroic to M0 is huge in terms of survivability so don't jump straight to M+ if you're new to tanking. And those worrying about DPS pulling intentionally. Yes, this happens a lot in heroic and normal but not so much in mythic or mythic +. Because if they do it in mythic dungeons they die and stop doing it.

[@r1pp3dx]

I think thats why i stopped tanking was because of that jump from the new mythic+ difficulty…i immediately felt squishy

[@shanen5607]

I swapped to resto shaman for this exact reason years ago. Give the shaman a tank spec and we'll talk

[@Epsyk]

I Main Tank since wotlk. But it’s sometimes hard. The responsibility is very high and you have to be in harmony with the healer in M+ and with the second tank in raids. If that isn’t the case, you either are overequipped or you are fucked.

[@BeastMastery]

The spellcast change in dungeons really sucks... And i must say, i hate routing!

[@deezportz]

When they started making healers have to dps has messed up tanking..now I barely get healed..

[@Electric_]

This is the best time to play tank. Hardly anyone criticizes you because everyone’s extremely desperate for them. You will get some whiners, but it’s less than normal. As a tank you get instant delves, instant M+ with dungeon of your choice, and even easy raid slots if you PUG raid. And tanking raids is the easiest thing ever. A Mythic raid tank plays the game on easy mode while getting top tier rewards.

[@rehmsmeyer]

Glass half full

[@mothman84]

Too little, too late for me. It's good if most got "desperate" and stopped "criticizing," but that happened only just past my own breaking point. You kids have fun.

[@CosmicCleric]

"Hardly anyone criticizes you because everyone’s extremely desperate for them. You will get some whiners, but it’s less than normal." Instead you'll just get passive-aggressive pulling of mobs for you that causes wipes and people leaving early. The old 'trinity' mindset really needs to come back, fundamentally that's the meta problem at hand here. If people respect the trinity then runs go smoothly, and everybody is happy (assuming everybody is also doing their own jobs well and not just trying to do other members jobs instead).

[@Electric_]

@@CosmicCleric you probably pull too slow. I never have that happen to me

[@mothman84]

@@Electric_ If you're tanking, and having a great time playing tank in the game as it is, that's awesome for you. Even better for you that the rest of us are opting out, right? By all means, enjoy!

[@tylerstewart3181]

Marcelian has spoken, I am a tank now

[@JeramieRankin]

Earthen Prot Pally bra.

[@MarcelianOnline]

THAT'S MY TANK!!!!!!

[@Trezzahn1982]

Taking is fun until you get that "DPS" that is qued for tank/dps and refuses to change spec.

[@DEATHPALLYZ]

Fk it, im tanking. You inspired me. I was thinking about it for so long, grinded all my dps gear as warrior got to 511 ilvl but no group to play in. Im doing it.

[@phantomvox951]

Hum so taking in WOW is different from FF14? You have to maintain aggro in WOW not like FF14 that you only push a button once and never lose it.

[@chocobolord_]

Missed opportunity to say "tank me later" in the title 😢

[@gothkidd8712]

you can learn to tank by using the follower dungeons

[@hameed]

No, I dont think I will

[@PeritashGaming]

ive been a tank for years. leveling a pala tank and everything goes right untill you reach level 70 and go into the new expack, all of a sudden i keep dieing without doing anything wrong. all i can do is blame blizzard balancing and having to buy a 2hander to go retri so i can play the fucking game

[@urmadrelastnite]

It's not you or the class, it's the gear. There's a gigantic spike in gear requirement once you get to the new expac

[@RJDBXD]

Yeah dps is still way more fun, but please, every1 start tanking now please! haha

[@brentsteven4944]

alright boys ive been moving so have not been able to touch the game and im a tank. How bad are the dungeons this time around? does every mob have a mechanic each pull or only most of them?

[@samansoltani2964]

as main VDH since legion i can say tanking rn is not hard its painfull & rly rly not fun at all , i taking 1 hit form 30% of my hp whit ilvl 610 full enchant in +6 !!! i think the m+ rn need tuning in all dangeouns & i think this painfull experiance will be double for healers perspective for example i played whit shammy healer whit 1.1 m healing cant heal necrotic wake +5 3th boss!! , i dont wana be negative person i love VDH & i love wow but this is in another lvl of untunning they want to solve tank problame but now we cant even tank adds in tranical week this is awful

[@CatDad312]

The best advice I can give as an experienced Blood DK is using the right trinkets that compliment your build. Same with choosing a healer that compliments your defensive profile. Don’t be afraid to use hybrid defensive trinkets to fix the weaknesses of your spec. As a Blood DK, I take a ton of initial damage on pull so a trinket that procs a shield or dodge effect is huge. If you don’t have good self-healing, go for a trinket that passively heals.

[@michalnovotny6716]

I just started Arcane mage. No thx 😂

[@jasonvanzyl652]

Had this issue today. waited for a +2 Mists key for 40min for a tank. Maybe its time to respec

[@mothman84]

Definitely, you do that, champ Take up the mantle, you're welcome to it. Here, you can have mine! LOL

[@wrongman5495]

tank: do dmg do mechanic switch target interrupt buff group survive dps: do dmg why people dont play tank!?!?!

[@CaptainBlueSam]

Been playing guardian druid for a while now, and I'm leveling a warrior to be a bigger dps tank 😂

[@Kiwicrack]

came here to say how fucking dare you have the skovald shield in the thumbnail (I seriously farmed HoV on paladin and warrior, no luck. I think I saw it drop once in about 50 or so runs)

[@user-tr3wg7qd6h]

Tank in retail? Lol no thanks.

[@Damon-bx6xo]

Why not, start tanking now and tank me later! 😂

[@GachiBoi]

im playing bdk right now, and main problem for me: tanking starts getting boring after 5-6 keys in a row.

[@SauteKing8760]

how you finding bdk ?

[@GachiBoi]

@@SauteKing8760 less self-sustain after "tank rebalance"

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

​@GachiBoi yea got 607 bdk but even though i dont die everyone else arou d me does so ive never been able to time a 3+ this week

[@itsyaboiherman]

Start tanking now!!!!.....in ffxiv. You will thank me later ❤

[@williamhoward13]

I have the opposite problem. Ive only tanked since cataclysm. Now im pigeonholed as the tank of the friend group. I suggest maybe ill dps this xpac and everyone just laughs. If i play a dps alt and have to wait in group finder for more than a mini get antsy.

[@cmoney163]

You sure they’re your friends? 💀

[@Jay-407]

They’ve made tanking harder, healing harder, and dungeons harder. The season feelin kinda meh rn

[@tonyr6180]

This is propaganda so we can actually fill the groups in less then 20 minutes (before we brick the key 30 minutes in), but I'm all for it. Tank is on my roster to get KSM as well but we definitely send a few DPS first.

[@geverest2421]

Im a 596 ilvl dps trying to do +2's and cant get a single invite, was trying for 1h 30 ...

[@Virsbopappan]

Not that hard to just create your own group 😂

[@robertriley9139]

This video grabbed me by the tank nuts. Earned my first like from me. We'll done.

[@SauteKing8760]

GUYS i wanna tank just started TWW but what will be easier warrior protection or blood death night any advice i like um both .

[@eanlazar]

Warrior is easier 😊

[@L0rks]

Tanks for this :)

[@xXGeko1Xx]

Well ’tank you’ later! Hah! Ok I’ll leave now 😂😂😂😂

[@BearlyAwakeTV]

No.

[@jedhaney3547]

'Pulling with a taunt' Uuuuh, yeah no. If you have to do that you're doing something wrong lol. All tanks have some sort of ranged pull abilties, usually that do bonus threat, and alot of the time you're going to the boss anyways not relying on a ranged pull to engage. You can always get a misdirect/trick of the trades to help, but shouldn't be needed unless you're outgeared by your dps or Blizz messed up balance/scaling of a spec/class.

[@mothman84]

Nope, sorry. Been tanking for years, and it's the worst job ever. Misery and pain, all for nothing. Blizzard finally made it bad enough that not only it's too hard for me, but I at last just don't give a crap about pushing past my limits. Keep changing the game for standard PUGs based on what phenomenal players pushing +25s are doing on stream, and that is what you get: no damn tanks OR healers, cause the game effing sucks for the general population. Have fun with your 100 champions in MDI, it's great for them, surely. As for the "community," you deserve to be left waiting forever in queue for tanks and healers, and you know it. You had it coming, "community," you suck. Do yourself a favor, refuse to tank or heal. Choose life. There are delves, you no longer need to stand there and be abused by angry idiots. Refuse.

[@gammat.c.4916]

less read please xD

[@PowDJoke]

I really hope they won’t nerf dungeons, I prefer it this way

[@PepeSilvia52]

Just dont make a tank all the KZbinrs made a tier list and ranked them lower, or people wont inv you lol

[@alihorda]

the lack of tanks and healers is so high people wont care about tier lists if you are a tank, unless you do the highest keys

[@PepeSilvia52]

@@alihorda as a 610 prot pally I don't agree with this over +5 people care

[@MarcelianOnline]

I play Prot Paladin, wurrup

[@alihorda]

@@PepeSilvia52 i did some dungeons, everybody hunted for tanks, nobody cared

[@PepeSilvia52]

@@alihorda it was fine until 1800 io. Then people cared. Considering relevant loot that beats dwelves starts at +7s. Idk if your m0s matter too much.

[@MySmileyBoy]

I am 1 min for the first time in your video and you ask me to support via patreon... i don't even wanna watch this video anymore

[@MarcelianOnline]

It's ok, thanks for dropping by