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Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho sit down to discuss whether Golden State Warriors' Steph Curry is the most valuable player in the NBA.
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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 3 жыл бұрын
Is Steph Curry the most valuable player in the NBA?
@mrj5695
@mrj5695 3 жыл бұрын
Joker or Dame $
@jahwrld2436
@jahwrld2436 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrj5695 yeah last time I check dame hurt and his last 10 games before injury wasn't so mvp play
@vision8641
@vision8641 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Outlawsvault
@Outlawsvault 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrj5695 the blazers are 3-1 without dame warriors are 1-7 without curry warriors are the worst offensive team in the last 5 season without Curry and are the worst team in league without Curry The blazers without dame are still a playoff team and a great team in general without dame
@GregoryFergusson
@GregoryFergusson 3 жыл бұрын
No, I don't know why Acho left out those GSW wins. You can't be MVP with those wins, we don't watch bball to see ppl just score pts, we want to see teams winning too so I love Steph but he must win to be considered. Him being the 8th, 9th and 10th seed display a lack of wins, sorry.
@dantheman8152
@dantheman8152 3 жыл бұрын
He is the most valuable player on his team.
@user-yh3cy8tj1d
@user-yh3cy8tj1d 3 жыл бұрын
Could be on most teams
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yh3cy8tj1d would*
@GG-gd3uf
@GG-gd3uf 2 жыл бұрын
the most valuable player on the warrior team is Klay Thompson he can score as efficiently as Curry and he makes up for Curry on defense i have to remind everybody that curry can't guard his own shadow !
@user-yh3cy8tj1d
@user-yh3cy8tj1d 2 жыл бұрын
@@GG-gd3uf We don't have an example of either of them getting it done without one another
@kingfree3396
@kingfree3396 3 жыл бұрын
Its not the best player on the best team award its the leagues most valuable player .steph curry should be in the convo he is the warriors power right now
@Josh86_925
@Josh86_925 3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for Curry , the Warriors might have 10 wins . Without Curry this season Warriors are 1-6 . He recently sat out the back end of a back-to-back, and GS lost by 53 points to the 21-win Raptors @ the time....idk that sounds pretty valuable to me
@ZimMill
@ZimMill 3 жыл бұрын
1-7 Without Him Actually
@nolanko1265
@nolanko1265 3 жыл бұрын
So your argument for Curry being the MVP is essentially because he has really really deplorable teammates? GSW is 29-29. They’re the 9th seed. That’s not value!
@dudelittle6643
@dudelittle6643 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolanko1265 that is value
@cucumber3027
@cucumber3027 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolanko1265 them being 9th solely because of him speak Value lol
@nolanko1265
@nolanko1265 3 жыл бұрын
@@cucumber3027 9th seed is value?!? Wow, I guess loyalty is blind. Bottom line: GSW is trash, with or without Curry. Perhaps with him, the garbage is not too smelly. But it’s still garbage!
@rese8560
@rese8560 3 жыл бұрын
Steph’s proving that there needs to be an offensive player of the year award
@jimanderson2076
@jimanderson2076 3 жыл бұрын
there is scoring title
@rese8560
@rese8560 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimanderson2076 not the same thing
@bmill8780
@bmill8780 3 жыл бұрын
@@rese8560 ummmmm well what else would be included for him to when it bc he’s not top 5 in assisting to score
@versewonderstrikes5353
@versewonderstrikes5353 3 жыл бұрын
Why? There’s on five guys on the court. You have to win not just make shoots.
@GG-gd3uf
@GG-gd3uf 2 жыл бұрын
@@rese8560 How is not the same thing, the player who scores the most points per game wins the scoring title in definition thats a offensive player of the year,
@jaywolfdesigns
@jaywolfdesigns 3 жыл бұрын
only a comfident man can make that pink suit look manly
@mrlogick1098
@mrlogick1098 3 жыл бұрын
Lol well he’s busting out the seams , he should be confident
@MrSteve-of2hj
@MrSteve-of2hj 3 жыл бұрын
the guns
@christiansul9581
@christiansul9581 3 жыл бұрын
low iq
@SlowVersion
@SlowVersion 3 жыл бұрын
Love tou guys ... hands down best nba talk in the media!
@alphaomega8373
@alphaomega8373 3 жыл бұрын
Its not my thing irl but, Those "Acho suits" make me happy and I dont know why.
@danijeldoveden6520
@danijeldoveden6520 3 жыл бұрын
Because you are happy it is not you who wear them. Bad Shannon copy.
@rayperez6322
@rayperez6322 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Emmanuel Acho!
@brodiethegoaty849
@brodiethegoaty849 3 жыл бұрын
The media tryna convince all of us he isn't MVP only making his MVP case stronger.
@z-mane1438
@z-mane1438 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all ..u can’t be an mvp when you’re not in the playoff picture
@oceaniamonarch5404
@oceaniamonarch5404 3 жыл бұрын
HE AINT NO MVP......
@shafer.chris.2244
@shafer.chris.2244 3 жыл бұрын
he has a few amazing games and he MVP??? thought it was a full season award, maybe he should get player of the month instead lol
@shanepringle
@shanepringle 3 жыл бұрын
The Warriors are 1-7 without Steph this season. So with Steph, 28-22 for a .56 winning %. In a regular NBA season, that would equal 46 wins. So that's a 14% winning % without him, and 56% with him, or a 41% difference. It's a small sample, but I think the team is that bad and poorly constructed that they wouldn't win that much of a higher rate in more games without Steph. To me, that's an enormous impact to the the win/loss record. Also, when Westbrook won MVP, his team won just 47 games.
@mikephillips7346
@mikephillips7346 3 жыл бұрын
Westbrook also averaged a triple double for the season breaking a historic NBA record.
@caribbeangoldgroup9402
@caribbeangoldgroup9402 3 жыл бұрын
These reasoning is deep high level intellectual knowledge 👍🏽👍🏽
@jaytee1370
@jaytee1370 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t they mention the fact that when those other players, when out with injuries there teams were still being decent and winning when curry missed time they went 1-7 that’s MVP period!!!
@nasirdoyle964
@nasirdoyle964 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having common sense brudda
@camdonking1919
@camdonking1919 3 жыл бұрын
The best argument
@michaeljohnmaniago3093
@michaeljohnmaniago3093 3 жыл бұрын
They can't mention denver nuggets tho ... For the obvious reason that the true Mvp doesn't miss a single game this season!!! Stop disrespecting nikola jokic period.. media pushing the steph curry MVP is so obvious
@camdonking1919
@camdonking1919 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljohnmaniago3093 nobody disrespecting the joker bro. It's just that they use the team record argument against Steph to denigrate his value, but the inverse of that is that every other MVP candidate team has a winning record without them.
@rakhunuhepptaylor2135
@rakhunuhepptaylor2135 3 жыл бұрын
Samuel Acho's pink suit and green tie are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@griffithstifler5027
@griffithstifler5027 3 жыл бұрын
He wearing pink pants too????? 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐 Shu I can rock that Lazer though 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@nealdutta4069
@nealdutta4069 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed a PATTERN: IF media addresses a player this year as a possible MVP candidate. That player usually get's injured.
@itsyourenotyour9101
@itsyourenotyour9101 3 жыл бұрын
He's literally out there alone. The team is absolutely broken without him. His value exceeds anyone at this point. The MVP is a BS award anyways and goes to the best storyline. Lakers dominated teams without Lebron and AD even and you can go down the line.
@denverbasshead
@denverbasshead 3 жыл бұрын
So it was like LeBron in cleveland the second time?
@blackmanwithcomputer
@blackmanwithcomputer 3 жыл бұрын
He gotta at least be in the playoffs. Same thing happened with Russ, but he was clearly going to make the playoffs.
@cucumber3027
@cucumber3027 3 жыл бұрын
@@denverbasshead He's not putting up these number bruh, his teammates are winning coz he formed/selected a better team statistically than 2021 warriors
@Messigoat1033
@Messigoat1033 3 жыл бұрын
“Dominant team”? You mean the jazz game without their 4 staters. You mean the Nets without harden and kyrie ejection. Steph is 9th place and some of the games they lost without him Dray wasn’t playing. Nice try
@denverbasshead
@denverbasshead 3 жыл бұрын
@@cucumber3027 dude cleveland went from being the worst team, to going to 4 straight finals with lebron,back to being one of the worst teams the second he left
@K_C_G444
@K_C_G444 3 жыл бұрын
Acho got so much personality as a host
@theaudone5641
@theaudone5641 3 жыл бұрын
Acho getting nominated for emmys lol that Oprah connection really paying off I see smh 😂
@kelzstackz4503
@kelzstackz4503 3 жыл бұрын
Sports emmys
@kevvyboy7580
@kevvyboy7580 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best talk show. They have fun. They come out with reasonable arguments from both sides. There’s no slander, and there’s no outrages takes, its all keeping it real. Respect. This is most I have nodded when both sides were making their point lol. Steph might not win the MVP award, but he is the best player in the league as of this moment.
@marcusnelson1465
@marcusnelson1465 3 жыл бұрын
Nokic hasn't carried the nuggets and Embid hasn't carried the sixers. Curry is singled handling carrying the warriors maybe to the 7th or 6th seed.
@deitrichheard7580
@deitrichheard7580 3 жыл бұрын
I can only take 5mins of these toooo smart guys
@cyrussencila8879
@cyrussencila8879 3 жыл бұрын
i tell yeah everyone can be expert now😂🤦🏻‍♂️
@Brantley_ZA
@Brantley_ZA 2 жыл бұрын
Acho always has the best takes imo.
@mambamentality6148
@mambamentality6148 3 жыл бұрын
He said “scary ahh” 😂 😭 bro Marcellus leave the private school kid alone big homie! Lol
@shockkacaller9862
@shockkacaller9862 3 жыл бұрын
King curry cooking it up on da court for that mvp
@DivineDarkness91
@DivineDarkness91 3 жыл бұрын
This man just cut a wwe promo about Steph and I love it
@Sheeesh-ed3ks
@Sheeesh-ed3ks 3 жыл бұрын
If Steph didnt miss 6 games and Kerr let him play 8 to 10 minutes of every 4th quarter of the game his team is probably in the top 6 or 7 spot rn.
@duckmeatpigmeat406
@duckmeatpigmeat406 3 жыл бұрын
he also moght get injured playing that amount
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
they would be top 3-4 on record if they won those close games
@jcsuperstar4646
@jcsuperstar4646 3 жыл бұрын
Riley missed on this one. He forgot Klay was playing then
@EdgarsAA
@EdgarsAA 3 жыл бұрын
Acho really comparised Curry's 3PM against 7 footers Embiid and Jokic? 😂😂😂
@jimno8763
@jimno8763 3 жыл бұрын
Warriors are 1-7 without Steph! He’s literally putting the team on his back and carrying them. Leading the league in scoring and getting them to the playoffs in more impressive than what anybody else is doing this year. Steph is MVP 🏆
@moses9647
@moses9647 3 жыл бұрын
He's having a historic run statwise but since when do we reward putting up stats on mediocre to bad teams? Guys like Boogie, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, should have been MVP candidates in that case
@jimno8763
@jimno8763 3 жыл бұрын
@@moses9647 Boogie KLove and AD have never lead the league in scoring. None of them have ever shot 50 40 90. None of them have been the #1 scoring and #1 playmaker on their team! Those are terrible comparisons
@moses9647
@moses9647 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimno8763 Draymond is the #1 playmaker dude. And all those guys have had historic seasons and stretches and been considered the best at their position in the league. If Steph gets them to at least 6 like Westbrook did then I think he's in the convo. But they're 9th, and they're win percentage with him playing (56%) would put them at 7th. 7th place players don't get MVPs
@jimno8763
@jimno8763 3 жыл бұрын
@@moses9647 Lol Draymond is only a playmaker when Steph is on the floor. Draymond aint a playmaker when the splash bros aint playing. Anybody can look like a good playmaker with the splash bros
@camdonking1919
@camdonking1919 3 жыл бұрын
Impact: with him, 13 best offense. W/o worst offense rating in the last 7 years Winning: warriors went 1-7 while steph was injured, they've been 7-2 since he came back. And have an above .500 record when he plays.
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
9-2, or 8-3 cause he has played 11 games
@Scisca1a2a
@Scisca1a2a 3 жыл бұрын
Joker gives you 47, 15 and 8 - ESPN is not impressed. Steph gives you 49 - MVP! MVP! Get out...
@kingpoodietv364
@kingpoodietv364 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that wiley suggests that all these nba players are faking injuries for rest is insane
@kingjames361
@kingjames361 3 жыл бұрын
When did he say that?
@livinlifeblind3570
@livinlifeblind3570 3 жыл бұрын
Marcellus us right,it has to translate
@nasirdoyle964
@nasirdoyle964 3 жыл бұрын
One question is klay playing since he wanna bring up 2016 🤣
@miki_car
@miki_car 3 жыл бұрын
Compering scores of shooter and center..lol..what an argument
@caper087
@caper087 3 жыл бұрын
Jus got here but gotta feeling slick Rick gonna jump in and bash on Steph 🤷‍♂️
@iIBATTMANii
@iIBATTMANii 3 жыл бұрын
marcellus wiley call a 6'3 man "little" he is 6'4.
@hyhxoxo___5330
@hyhxoxo___5330 3 жыл бұрын
Steph is the most magician nba of all times
@MrSteve-of2hj
@MrSteve-of2hj 3 жыл бұрын
don't know whether it's deliberately or subconscious, but seems like there is a motive to deny Nikola Jokic the Joker the MVP award
@KingDicksonK
@KingDicksonK 3 жыл бұрын
To deny what, he is not the MVP n everyone is just realizing now, it's ur turn too.... He has Murray and good pieces around him, what does Curry have ? Nobody but still carrying every night, he is the 1st, 2nd n 3rd seed on his team
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
how are they against Jokic, when they say Curry not MVP?? this whole Curry MVP is a narrative from the fans not the media, Media who are against it
@kingjames361
@kingjames361 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing keeping him from MVP is wins Wiley is right on this one Acho knows Curry isn’t winning enough
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
14 games to go a lot can happen... look what 8 games did to warriors
@kingjames361
@kingjames361 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacdebeila8085 he is gonna have to stay on this hot streak no telling how long this will keep up he can’t stay this hot forever
@adg-
@adg- 3 жыл бұрын
People downplay stephs greatness this szn bc of record. They forget that when steph doesnt play the warriors are 1-7. Like cmon all those games they lost woulda been way different w steph in the lineup. MVP
@taibou44
@taibou44 3 жыл бұрын
bro i swear if lebron was on this team in the same situation they be said he should be the mvp
@babygoat12
@babygoat12 3 жыл бұрын
Swear 💯
@ghini1987
@ghini1987 3 жыл бұрын
So u think LeBron on tha warriors, would b fighting for tha 8 seed?? So u saying he would've gotten injured tha same way lol
@Messigoat1033
@Messigoat1033 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Lebron carry the bun cavs to top 4 seed in both of his stints and only won 2 MVPS? 😂
@taibou44
@taibou44 3 жыл бұрын
don't you dare compare the east back in 07 to this wild stacked west
@Messigoat1033
@Messigoat1033 3 жыл бұрын
@@taibou44 Umm basketball was actually more competitive back then. Steph winning percentage against teams in the playoffs is horrible.
@radhamesmarrero4951
@radhamesmarrero4951 3 жыл бұрын
But the Denver only got 30 game win
@manuelahe_
@manuelahe_ 3 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself taking over the game
@nateg.4488
@nateg.4488 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh he is lol. But he won’t get the award cause of the politics involved.
@jqualls7901
@jqualls7901 3 жыл бұрын
he won't get it because of his teams record!! you stats people are delusional!!
@jahwrld2436
@jahwrld2436 3 жыл бұрын
@@jqualls7901 yeah delusional last time I check it's most valuable player not most valuable team try again
@jqualls7901
@jqualls7901 3 жыл бұрын
@@jahwrld2436 however you feel Steph ain't winning it!! 💯💯
@blackmanwithcomputer
@blackmanwithcomputer 3 жыл бұрын
@@jahwrld2436 What MVP has not been in the playoffs?
@Ttcw89
@Ttcw89 3 жыл бұрын
@@jqualls7901 my problem with you guys and the team record thing is that you’re basically saying that the one who wins it MUST have decent enough players to keep s good record. That’s problematic because How tf can Curry win it if he has a bunch of G league type players, rookies, and very inconsistent players on the floor with him night in and night out??? You know how many games Steph gave his all and his team failed him? How can he get the record needed and the seed needed if his teammates can not produce and help him get there??? MVP award is very much reliant on teammates.. not player
@riverofcustard5027
@riverofcustard5027 3 жыл бұрын
I admit I’m not the biggest Curry fan, but media look like casuals asking for a 9th seed to be mvp, if team mediocrity and great individual numbers was rewarded with MVP’s, then Bradley Beal would have like 9.
@jeweltyler5827
@jeweltyler5827 3 жыл бұрын
So if he would have won five more games he would have been in the argument
@cucumber3027
@cucumber3027 3 жыл бұрын
But he got injured, and had to sit out. He he watched his team lose 1-7 lol
@rayperez6322
@rayperez6322 3 жыл бұрын
Golden MVP, yes and yes
@nasirdoyle964
@nasirdoyle964 3 жыл бұрын
He slow he just said it’s not abt the team @18:25 so what is it abt then the individual player
@chivasgio3259
@chivasgio3259 3 жыл бұрын
Still dropping bombs against multiple defenders in an extraordinary defense... That is how nba team value steph...
@muhammadcushmeer8868
@muhammadcushmeer8868 3 жыл бұрын
Acho has passed him up
@sdpetro18
@sdpetro18 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah let's compare a guard and center's impact purely based on points scored 🤔🙄
@georgiaboy2023
@georgiaboy2023 3 жыл бұрын
Love this show but It's so weird how these analysts call Steph a "small man" lmao. He's way larger than your average man
@nikoladjurovic5296
@nikoladjurovic5296 3 жыл бұрын
And Curry is shining at 9 seed 😁
@YAVIAH
@YAVIAH 3 жыл бұрын
This two Miatrel Mans 😂
@moses9647
@moses9647 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Acho's argument is we've seen plenty of dudes put up legendary stat lines on bad teams. Kevin Love was viewed as a top 2-3 PF on Minnesota but he was NEVER though of as an MVP. DeMarcus Cousins comes to mind too. There's something to be said for putting up numbers AND winning and right now Jokic is in the lead in large part because he's doing both those things and playing all the games
@camdonking1919
@camdonking1919 3 жыл бұрын
Bro no one's had a stretch like curry having right now, especially with his eficiency. Mans having a 50 40 90 season. Before he did it in 2016, that was considered incredibly hard to do. And one talks about that anymore
@moses9647
@moses9647 3 жыл бұрын
@@camdonking1919 mate were you born yesterday? Harden just had a 32-game 30 point streak in 2019 when Giannis won MVP. And not to nitpick but he's shooting 49% from the field. Still incredible but not quite 50/40/90
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
@@moses9647 thats cause 15-20 points came off free throws dude... if he won MVP they would have to give the refs too
@dominiquerobinson8888
@dominiquerobinson8888 3 жыл бұрын
You should've just stuck to Harden to make your point cause Cousins and Love were terrible examples. Plus 49% from the field is great considering the shot's he's taking along with no space.
@moses9647
@moses9647 3 жыл бұрын
@Kevin van Etten again, incredibly impressive and will be unmatched for a long time. But the MVP doesn't come with an age caveat or LeBron would have won it last year, what he's doing is unprecedented for a guy his age
@tonyjackson175
@tonyjackson175 3 жыл бұрын
He actually is the MVP if they make the playoffs but he is not the media MVP. There is no other score on the Warriors but him. But he will not win.
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
since he has been back he beat every MVP candidate from Jokic to Embiid and has a 8-3 record while getting trapped and having 2-3 players on him every single game... 14 games to go, he puts up another 8-3 record or better he will make them 37-32 with 3 more game to play and if they win those 3 they will be 40-32 thats a playoff team, dude you tripping and he is doing this with g-league help... the team that went 1-7 while facing the tail end teams for the East
@mrlogick1098
@mrlogick1098 3 жыл бұрын
It’s beautiful to watch but let’s not become prisoners of the moment, we’ve seen other offensive player have hot months also. The wins for mvp aren’t there
@charlieakateddy
@charlieakateddy 3 жыл бұрын
Acho forced Wiley to be violent against Steph. Steph is great, Steph is playing amazing. But not MVP. This shouldn't be discussed lol
@KPWASRIGHT
@KPWASRIGHT 3 жыл бұрын
Steph gets to the 6th . He wins the MVP.. he playing with a totally new team. A 19 year old and g leaguers
@redzoom7857
@redzoom7857 3 жыл бұрын
Bucher has always been a Steph hater and Marcellus hates on Steph because of the times Lebron lost to the Warriors in the Finals.
@zacwoods
@zacwoods 3 жыл бұрын
They are literally inventing ways not to give it to Jokic. Its insane. He’s balled out ALL YEAR almost averaging a triple double AS A CENTER oh and his team is 4th in the West, he has yet to miss any sort of time AND the team is still winning despite losing its second best player to a season ending knee injury. This is why nobody watches the NBA anymore. Think about this, the NBA has a LEGIT chance to give a white superstar the MVP for the first time since Larry Bird (Nash didnt earn either of his) and THEY STILL trying to find ways to give it to someone else. Its madness.
@nick-dogg
@nick-dogg 3 жыл бұрын
Steph needs the right role players. He can’t take control a game because of his size.
@tdotraptors416
@tdotraptors416 3 жыл бұрын
That line wiley said ends it I am not punishing him I am just not rewarding him
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
thats the problem though, when Curry in 2017 and 2018 had MVP numbers, they punished him for having good team mates, now he has bad teams and they are not rewarding the effort, while they did for Harden and Westbrook... thats some media hate for Curry
@korapt24
@korapt24 3 жыл бұрын
Next topic, is Steph the most skilled NBA player in history?
@sleazytooez2313
@sleazytooez2313 3 жыл бұрын
He’s not even the most skilled in The NBA right now
@korapt24
@korapt24 3 жыл бұрын
@@sleazytooez2313 Maybe? Maybe not? It's debateble I think. MJ, Kobe can't shoot or dribble like Steph. Kyrie even though can have the greatest handles, he can't shoot like Steph. Dame can shoot it but not the level that Steph have.
@sleazytooez2313
@sleazytooez2313 3 жыл бұрын
@@korapt24 My vote to current player is Kyrie. Harden has the edge also. There’s some others as well but those 2 immediately come to mind. At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter because he’s great at what he does and what makes him special. It’s not a slight on him, there are just others who have more of an overall game to me.
@korapt24
@korapt24 3 жыл бұрын
@@sleazytooez2313 Harden more skilled passer than Steph based on stats I could give you that. But Steph is more is skilled scorer than Harden. Steph can score with or with out the ball. Harden and Kyrie are the dribble brothers, so they need the ball to be a real threat to a team defense. You know Steph has better skill than the two you're talking about.
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
not more like Curry not the most skilled player in the league
@landonr.536
@landonr.536 3 жыл бұрын
He’s not the mvp, but he is the most valuable player in the league. Pretty simple.
@joyboy1720
@joyboy1720 3 жыл бұрын
If we are going off of the literally definition of mvp, then steph is clearly the most valuable player to his team. Without steph the warriors are one of the worst teams of all time
@nasirdoyle964
@nasirdoyle964 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@itsyourenotyour9101
@itsyourenotyour9101 3 жыл бұрын
They should honestly make another word and rename the current award BSNA "Best Story Narrative Award". The award has become a joke.
@bruthabrandon2966
@bruthabrandon2966 3 жыл бұрын
Literal* 🤦🏿
@jamesrclandi
@jamesrclandi 3 жыл бұрын
One quick question, because we all know Joel embiid is a very likely candidate for MVP. Do you think you could put Joel embiid on golden state with the same circumstances and he would do just as good??? Anyone who says yes is lying to themselves. Curry is already working with an empty roster to where they're pulling up guys from the g League. ,,🤣🤣🤣 Come on!
@marioncarloescoto9093
@marioncarloescoto9093 3 жыл бұрын
Curry mvp
@jennyvlogs695
@jennyvlogs695 3 жыл бұрын
Mvp... P for player not mvt for team.. haha😂
@Mr10before9
@Mr10before9 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't we just determine last season that the MVP is MOST VALUABLE PLAYER not Most Outstanding Player. Steph Curry can put up insane numbers, but if they are not having the impact then the value is lacking.
@arlondwilliams971
@arlondwilliams971 3 жыл бұрын
Acho started by trying to compare Curry's stats to 2 big men 😂😂 bruh
@Ttcw89
@Ttcw89 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but those 3 players are always MVP candidates. Jokic and Embiid are at the top of the list yet Curry completely outshined them when he just played them and came away with a 2-0 record vs them and doubled their points combined just about
@arlondwilliams971
@arlondwilliams971 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ttcw89 Why can't he outshine more teams than? I mean 2-0 vs MVP candidates is nice but 28-22 is trash so ima need him to start shining some more
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 3 жыл бұрын
@@arlondwilliams971 how is that trash? Lebron ans MJ both have had seasons with lower winning percentage than that when they were the only superstar players in their team. This western conference is stacked and had curry not been injured they would probably be a 6th or 5th seed right now.
@arlondwilliams971
@arlondwilliams971 3 жыл бұрын
@@Christopher._M That's crazy cause I dont remember MJ EVER playing with another superstar 🤔 And I could've sworn Lebron was the only Superstar in '07 and '18 when he made it to the Finals
@doedoebird6614
@doedoebird6614 3 жыл бұрын
@@arlondwilliams971 Scottie pippen was a star how stupid are you 😂 when mike left do you know that Bulls was still good? And pippen led them...don’t be so ignorant bruh. And Lebron is lebron nun to say about him he’s a dog
@godson7066
@godson7066 3 жыл бұрын
Marcellus is turning into Jason Whitlock
@sibutotheworld
@sibutotheworld 3 жыл бұрын
If Steph is MVP because of his numbers, then Westbrook is better with the triple-double average this year.
@yeatdagoat173
@yeatdagoat173 3 жыл бұрын
Harden averaged 36 a game just 3 years ago and was the 4th seed and still didn't win MVP. I love Curry. He's MY MVP but he's def not winning MVP
@ZimMill
@ZimMill 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Win MVP Cuz Giannis Had A Monster Year On Both Sides Of The Court & His Team Won Almost 70 Games... Nobody Has Done That This Year, So Steph Should Be Alive For It
@Ttcw89
@Ttcw89 3 жыл бұрын
Harden avg 20 FT’s a game too but I agree Steph won’t win it most likely. Also let’s not try to just throw Hardens 34 ppg and what Curry’s doing into a box and fall it even.. What Curry is doing right now outshined Hardens by a mile. Harden was no shooting 55% from the furled, 50% from 3, and 92% from the stripe. That’s what Curry’s doing rn. All 30+ ppg seasons aren’t created equal. Curry’s breaking records, 4 of the last 5 games Roth 10+ threes made .. that’s insane
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ttcw89 at 33 years old... oldest to ever do it... not even MJ, Kobe and Lebron did it at that age
@jqualls7901
@jqualls7901 3 жыл бұрын
12:55 so why is steph in the MVP convo?!!!
@itsyourenotyour9101
@itsyourenotyour9101 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny that breaking the 3 records game after game (his own really) is just so standard that it has no value anymore haha. He still can't get past Klays and I'm surprised he has fallen short on some of these games.
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsyourenotyour9101 everyone who has Carried a team did it off 40 or more minutes, Curry is doing it with a 33 minute restriction, his 9-2 came when Kerr gave him 3 extra minutes to play.. if Kerr did it start of the season, Curry could have had a 40-10 record by now... but they are 29-22 so far cause of minute restriction
@StuntmanBeatz313
@StuntmanBeatz313 3 жыл бұрын
Basically.... Klay Thompson makes Steph Curry better...
@marloz2
@marloz2 3 жыл бұрын
Cant give mvp when you might not make playoffs. Curry is amazing but mvp id rather a jokic
@fatman3425
@fatman3425 3 жыл бұрын
TEAM SUCCESS IS WHERE HE FALLS SHORT??? the warriors LITERALLY have the worst offense in the past 5 years out of any team when he’s off the court and he brings them up to 13th this year
@jamesrclandi
@jamesrclandi 3 жыл бұрын
So you're basically going to credit a mans game based on the teammates he has around them. Why don't you just make it the most valuable team award instead of player??? The great magic Johnson who you mouthpieces love to name drop, said multiple times we all know who the real MVP is.
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
facts... when Curry had KD and was dominating in 2017 and 2018 they said he cant win MVP cause his team too stacked, now he is working with nothing and its about winning
@versewonderstrikes5353
@versewonderstrikes5353 3 жыл бұрын
How you MVP on the 9th seed?????? Where’s the value in that?
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
Curry left them on 6-7 th seed before injury... Draymond Red and Wiggins lead them boys too 1-7 and 10th place... thats why they are 9th seed lol
@wh1skeybud
@wh1skeybud 3 жыл бұрын
he’s trashing curry for the same reasons he praises dak 😂 dak empty calories prescott
@abelpolanco
@abelpolanco 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Cowboys fan that totally agree with u 💯 ! I like DAK but he hasn’t yet put the team on his back and carried them to Dominate in the playoffs consistently like a Brady , Mahomes , Rodgers , Breese , and Manning , and although I’m willing to give him a break due to him having pieces of 💩 for Ownership of a Team and Coaching so far in his career , now that he got Way Overpaid and they provide him with as much Talent Possible , he Better Deliver an NFC CHAMPIONSHIP appearance at the very least , and Honestly I Seriously Doubt It , but then again what else can u expect he was a fourth rounder , This is The Dallas Cowboys , The Franchise that what can go wrong...... WILL GO WRONG ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@wh1skeybud
@wh1skeybud 3 жыл бұрын
@@abelpolanco bro i absolutely hate the cowboys but i’m 1000% rooting for Dak. i don’t like that all his stats are come from behind stats but i think he’s a good person and he’s been through a lot so i wish him well for his own sake
@abelpolanco
@abelpolanco 3 жыл бұрын
@@wh1skeybud Oh for sure , I’m hoping everything works out for him in life and in his Football Career , and by the way ur not the only one who hates the Cowboys , I do too .... even though I’m a Cowboys Fan , I CANNOT STAND THEM RIGHT NOW ! 😶........😩 ✌🏼✊🏼
@muhammadcushmeer8868
@muhammadcushmeer8868 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Acho but he is better than Wiley at what they do
@faskii45odogwu99
@faskii45odogwu99 3 жыл бұрын
Acho my brother, Steph has missed time this season
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
for 8 games and they nearly dropped to last place lol... the fact this man getting them back into top 8 is insane
@faskii45odogwu99
@faskii45odogwu99 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacdebeila8085 Thanks my guy, these analysts just talk without indepth analysis
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 жыл бұрын
@@faskii45odogwu99 Randy Booker/RBthebreakthrough calls them box stat analysts cause thats how they follow games, throw stat sheets
@qbqb99
@qbqb99 3 жыл бұрын
Yawn.... Dame just did this too. Lakers in 5 LEBRON is mvp 😂
@danataylor3381
@danataylor3381 3 жыл бұрын
By this logic.. Lebron should have more MVPs than anyone..
@urke1179
@urke1179 3 жыл бұрын
LoL disrespect to Jokic is unreal
@terriswilson5857
@terriswilson5857 3 жыл бұрын
Marcellus, I heard football is your game. Stay in your lane! UR a football player not a basketball player. And stop hating. Study Webster more!
@rolobrown1692
@rolobrown1692 3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think Wiley dont like lighter skin black men. Maybe it's just me
@leojenn87
@leojenn87 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the 73 wins lol
@cyrussencila8879
@cyrussencila8879 3 жыл бұрын
we don't give a fck what speak fr urself, undisputed,espn,first thing first, thinking or opinion, real fans know steph are the mvp once the warriors make the playoffs period. u like it or not he's the mvp, don't care what ppl say especially lebron fans
@VINUDOSEN
@VINUDOSEN 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Steph is the most valuable player in the league. Without Steph now your all will be talking about how many players are hurt, how NBA use to be exciting when MJ played. Fans will be tuning in to watch dancing with the stars because there are tired of jokic walking down to dung the ball. Rating will be down to zero now Steph is putting the league on his back and dragging it out of the mod. now who is the league MVP? You are welcome
@nkosanaluthuli277
@nkosanaluthuli277 3 жыл бұрын
Compared wins against Embiid and Joker and then refuses to acknowledge the difference in wins (73-9) vs (29-29).double standard Acho..curry nowhere near mvp...his impact didnt reach the standard you are basing on in his unanimous mvp yr..curry has those points coz klay aint in the game.he gets less shots if klay is in the game and may not always have to score 30+ for a win..cant give mvp to a player whose value doesnt bring his team close to or be the best in the nba...Dame Dollar deserves a shoutout before curry by a long shot..
@nasirdoyle964
@nasirdoyle964 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a hater 😂
@ES99242
@ES99242 3 жыл бұрын
The warriors are the 9 seed end of debate
@Honestlytruth
@Honestlytruth 3 жыл бұрын
Marcellus is wayyyyyy wrong here
@melvinjackson9781
@melvinjackson9781 3 жыл бұрын
We all just need Kobe to come back RIP to the real GOAT
@franciscolopez2782
@franciscolopez2782 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Paul
@shinyokoyama8470
@shinyokoyama8470 3 жыл бұрын
Come on Wiley I thought you got over Hating on steph. Well he just beat Zion with a full team with Steph missing Wiseman, Oubre out for the season. Pascal been out for ever and still out and Damiam Lee out. That leaves Steph wiggins and Dramond with a bunch off 1 and 2 year players that all from "G" league or drafted and returned from the "G" league. And you all starting to make excuses for Bron with that stacked team and AD starting to get the Blame. Steph has missed 9 games and of those games GSW are 1 and 8. I bet while AD and Bron out Lakers average better then a 1 and 8 record. When Steph plays GSW are 32 and 24 just about as good as the lakers are right now. The lakers are so stacked the worst player on the Lakers would start for GSW. So Dont start acting like Skip and Kellerman because they have no credability by fans. You are a former athlete so you shoud Know what its like . Great players take alot off undeserved BS, Steph deserves getting This BS done to him.less then anyone alive You put 1 superstar with steph and The whole NBA, Analists, and Haters panic. I remember when KD joined GSW Skip and Steven A were up like 3 in the morning already discrediting Steph.and KD. But Bron can have AD and drunnond KD have Kyrie and both teams have a better supporting cast then steph ever had. Im tired off hearing how stacked the super team steph played with. For the most part A bunch off players that once They were not with Steph are not in the NBA any more. Except Harrision Barns and Igy and Barns was pre KD. If that team was so great when KD player without Steph GSW were 28 and 18. This is with KD no Steph. Now Steph without KD 32 and 4. = superteam 28 and 18 = 43 win season, not much more the a little above average, and this is with KD. This is not just a bunch off BS here are the numbers. And KD and Bron are considered all time greats. That would make Steph a human cheat code. So let bias voters not give steph finals MVP. or GOAT statice, because like I said Steph is lke a human cheat code. If all things equal there is nobody that can compare to Steph. Human Cheat code say it all.
@Bigmoe951
@Bigmoe951 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand these two “they try so hard “ there Obnoxious in there field
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