Marcelo Garcia and Jimmy Pedro Rolling

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[@oldmanjudo6241]

I like the way Marcelo kept smiling at the fact that Jimmy just gave him his back to start the roll. Two legends of their respected sports having a friendly roll. Awesome!

[@solarsolicitor9618]

Letting Marcelo Garcia have your back to start the roll is gonna be tough to overcome ha.

[@zamolxezamolxe8131]

Unless u r a good judoka. Thats a daily bread for judokas

[@jedijudoka]

Steelmonger888 except in this video he did. it’s a common way to start rolling in judo and wrestling.

[@Darwinist]

@Steelmonger888 Pedro knows Marcelo is known for his back attack wizardry, he probably just wanted to make sure he got to experience it and test his defensive skills against one of the best inthe world at it. It's training, not a competition.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

@@Darwinist EXACTLY!!! Half of the people in this comment section are basically saying putting yourself in disadvantageous positions when rolling so that you can genuinely learn and become better is pussy shit than is equivalent to 'losing' a friendly roll... Newsflash, nobody wins or loses a friendly roll

[@judofan8788]

THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO ENJOY WHAT YOU ARE DOING, LEARN SOMETHING AND LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR. WHO GIVES A CRAP WHO GOT SUBMITTED AS LONG AS THEY BOTH BENEFIT FROM THE PRACTICE. TWO OF THE GREATEST. THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

[@MrHeathcliff83]

oss ;-)

[@ericthomas2913]

Who is better? They both knew. That wasn’t the point. Just two men having a blast. Any true bjj or judo player knows that. Simple fact is, rolling is fun when ego isn’t involved. We roll, we tap out, fix ourselves, tap in, repeat. Smiles and laughs and respect the whole time.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Jita kyoei 😊

[@Burzurk1987]

Jimmy passed Marcelo’s guard! Not an easy thing to do for even BJJ world champions. Awesome!

[@juanaponte1339]

yea but he let him passed just to see what he had

[@Burzurk1987]

@@juanaponte1339 Callate buey. Quisieras!

[@juanaponte1339]

@@Burzurk1987 i guess you dont know Marcelo but hey CALLATE GIRL!!!!!!!!!!😆

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

​@@juanaponte1339cope harder. Jimmy Pedro is an Olympic medalist. BJJ is just newaza with Portuguese words slapped on. 100% marketing scheme for the Gracie crime family.

[@judofan8788]

Two of the top guys in there game. What a pleasure to watch.

[@Winston0Boogie]

This awesome! Two of my favorite grapplers.

[@nihilistlemon1995]

@Steelmonger888 Judo is a grappling art , deal with it

[@tomwalker389]

Imagine getting a black belt from each gentleman.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Travis Stevens had his Judo black already, but Jimmy was his coach and he got his BJJ black from Danaher. Absolute beast.

[@lemmingsinsight89]

Marcelo is wearing a Mizuno Jimmy Pedro judogi. Must have been a gift

[@beeyakaitolo]

People forget that Marcelo use to train & compete in Judo before he did BJJ, infact he had success in alot of Judo competitions. In Judo he used to train under Sensei Fabiano De Souza (who Marcelo idolized and wanted to emulate) De Souza also trained BJJ under Rickson Gracie Black Belt Iran Brasileiro, De Souza started bringing Marcelo to his BJJ sessions with Iran...after attending sessions with Iran, the rest became history...

[@MrHeathcliff83]

nice to know, thank you

[@thaumaston7]

So what? Marcelo’s skills in this have nothing to do with Judo. It’s all on the ground. As a brown belt I’ve rolled with people from the US Olympic Judo team and killed them. Judo is a nice start but contributes nothing to newaza at higher levels of BJJ.

[@junon]

@@thaumaston7I'm willing to bet Marcelo disagrees with you.

[@ClimaxingTillDecline]

@@thaumaston7 but why not be a savage at both?

[@beeyakaitolo]

@Steelmonger888 I didn't say he did, when I said "he had success in alot of judo competitions", I meant local judo tournaments obviously - my point is MG having trained in Judo, he's somewhat familiar with the Newaza of Judo. There's a bunch of videos on youtube of him dominating legit judo blackbelts and judo olympic medalists (Jimmy Pedor being one of them) - if this video is not any indication of his familiarity of Judo Newaza, study his "Crucifix game" most of his set ups into weaving the foot/leg in to trap the arms of his opponent who turtles up is basically a staple in the Judo 'turn-overs into osaekomi' curriculum.

[@changym1980]

I like jimmy's guard pass

[@nstv23]

Pedro is a legend. But in this roll Marcelinho was chilling going easy. Pedro was trying everything 💯 Same thing would happen if they stand up.

[@MrCBTman]

Agreed, except in reverse.

[@ClayMationNation]

Yea but even if Marcelo is only going 70% full on Jimmy remember this, Judo Ne Waza is incredibly underrated and under-appreciated. I used to train at Jason Morris Judo Center (another olympian) an BJJ guys would not believe the Ne Waza Abilities of most of the guys there. No kidding. When it's olympic level, and the BJJ guys aren't world class, they better watch out.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

@@emperorjimmu9941 BOOM! Finally, I was looking for this comment before I made if myself

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Yes. If they were standing Jimmy would spike him going 25%.

[@edmundkim007]

Would love to have seen them do standup.

[@TheGooinureye]

+edmund kim They did but it's not shown here for good reason. It's funny that Jimmy has been retired for 10-years and shows up to check up on the mats he sold Marcelo and then being a good sport he throws a gi on. Next thing you know all the nutthuggers are all omg Marcelo is a god!!

[@craiczhang]

Jimmy was visiting Marcelo's BJJ school and asking for a Judo play? what's wrong with you?

[@TheGooinureye]

What is wrong with you? Did you not read any of the other comments? Don't be a dumbass

[@profd65]

@Stuart Ramos Shut your fucking mouth, bitch.

[@yevgeniyzharinov7473]

Macelo would've been slaughtered.

[@ricky4709]

Marcelo sees so many professionals come through his gym to go against him or train with him, well done Jimmy and Marcelo.

[@CircleWilliams]

3:25 Jimmy must've been, "Damn he nearly got me with that"

[@Willkakau]

Marcelo IS THE man!!!

[@RGTomoenage11]

Jimmy did pretty good but marcelo is probably top 3 pound for pound in bjj. just like jimmi was a beast in judo.

[@ClayMationNation]

Olympic Level Judo Ne Waza is Seriously underrated.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

Even after Rhonda Rousey submitted all of her opponents for years using only her Judo Ne Waza. I distinctly remember the one time Ronda Rousey went on The Joe Rogan Experience and Eddie Bravo was on the episode with her as well, at one point he asked her who her Brazilian jiu jitsu instructor or her groundwork instructor was, and she said I don't have either, I just use my Judo on the ground and Eddie Bravo literally couldn't wrap his head around what she was saying lol

[@ClayMationNation]

@@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 Yes because Eddie thinks ground Judo is very limited. Till it's olympic level ground work. I trained at Jason Morris Judo center, the same place Rhonda was at when she was taken to bronze medal. That Ne Waza is not a joke. Jiu Jitsu guys would go there and not know what to do with it.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

@@ClayMationNation I know and agree, I relayed the anecdote in order to illustrate how even a high level BJJ black belt who subbed a Gracie as a purple belt and owns his own school can still somehow be that ignorant about Judo.

[@ClayMationNation]

@@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 it’s like the best kept secret and as soon as Rhonda thought she didn’t need it anymore she lost

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

@@ClayMationNation I couldn't agree more!! As they say in boxing, everyone is a champion on the pads/mitts. Just because you can hit mitts for your open media workouts and look badass while doing so does not mean you should try standing and boxing with a former multiple time professional boxing champion... I literally cannot comprehend to this day how either she, her coaches, or both didn't see what a disaster that would be.

[@joecain8287]

Every Marcelo roll looks the same; it speaks to how good he is.

[@MoneyOverFame]

Very few judo guys would be able to roll with Marcelo.

[@evanburgess4340]

I don't think he bans them? I think every BJJ academy needs to get a reality check, break falls and throws are often shitty, grip fighting below standards and believing they are training a martial art by constantly rolling is a bad idea. It is good fun, great when not too removed from reality, but considering most famous BJJ black belts are also judo black belts, I think they were more than aware they shouldn't become too complacent with their all round game. A judo black belt came into a club I went to and fucked everyone up, so it just depends. Craig Fallon now would go into a lot of BJJ comps at black belt level and do quite well. Just because one thing is good doesn't mean other things aren't also good. If you rolled with Jimmy Pedro do you think you would school him? You saw one tap in four minutes, after he got put in a position he may not have experienced before, and nearly got out of. That shows a good problem solving mind. He also looked to do a bit better against Marcelo that Faria.

[@MoneyOverFame]

Evan Burgess i agree. B

[@robinenman6812]

Mark Huizinga & Neil Adamswould be interesting in thier prime...

[@jsl8461]

@@robinenman6812 Flavio Canto is a legend at newaza. As a Brazilian IFJ representative, he was not allowed to compete in any other sport, but old school BJJ black belts who trained with him back in the day said he was a legitimate threat with his submissions, even under sub grappling rules. Obviously the positional stuff (passing, sweeping, etc) was not his bread and butter, but the power and speed and accuracy of his submissions shocked a lot of professional BJJ black belts, many of whom had never seen submissions like his before. BJJ has evolved a lot since then and people are a lot savvier, but I wouldn't be surprised if he could still get some legit taps with his Canto choke. Also, there are a lot of Japanese newaza specialists, especially those who come from a Kosen Judo background. Komuro Koji is one of the most famous, as he has competed in IBJJF rules and tapped out black belts before. His famous "Komlock" submission (the armbar where you control the arm with your armpit) is devastatingly fast and strong, and he also has a great Ezekiel choke.

[@reigninblood123]

@@robinenman6812 Neil adams was competing in the 1980s. The martial arts world was dominated by striking and everyone seemed obsessed with bruce lee. If someone mentioned bjj to me in the 1980s I literally would not have the faintest idea what on Earth they were talking about.

[@anthonyt.6082]

Jimmy Pedro could submit a lot of bjj black belts but Marcelo Garcia is a not normal bjj black belt. If they were standing then Jimmy could rag doll Marcelo and im sure Marcelo could take down a normal Judo black belt. These two guys are having a fun roll nothing more

[@anarchic_ramblings]

Marcelo's actually wearing a judo gi here.

[@pawepawe5393]

I have a quastion for BJJ and JUDO competitors (sorry for my english I'm polish). Is there really a big difference (despite from strategy/tactics) between Judo's ne-waza/ground work and BJJ? I mean, I have never seen any BJJ techniques which I haven't seen in Judo instructional movies made by for example Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki or Christian Peden. As far as I did my investigation it was like this: 1) ju-jitsu was invented/created in Old Japan for a battlefield. In all battles, there were many soldiers on both sides, so that art includet standing fight and only ending ground techniques (almost no position changing, transitions on the ground). 2) Jigoro Kano developed JUDO called also Kano's Ju-Jitsu, where he developed ground work called ne-waza and standing position fighting tachi-waza. This time new arrt included all spectrum of ground fighting, all transitions, avoiding logs, chokes and so on (what we now see in BJJ). 3) Many JUDOgas were competing different styles guys, so boxers, wrestlers ju-jitsu fighters to prove that Judo was superior. One of them was Maeda who was a teacher of JUDO to Carlson Gracie/Gracies. 4) And now the question arises: is that true that Gracies throw out most of standing techniques, saved ne-waza and called it Gracies Jiu-Jitsu (to defferentiate "their style" from Kano's Ju-Jitsu = JUDO) and sold it to the westeners as their invention? Old Judo (he's 55 years old) teacher I've talked to was angry when I asked him about BJJ, hes answer was like this: "Don't talk about BJJ in front of me, it's not Brazilian it's judo, they have changed techniques' names, belt colors and say it's brazilian". He is great technician, great in ground fighting (5th DAN). He also realies that unfortunatelly during JUDO competitions there is only very limited time for ground work and hopes that it will change because Japanes see that there is "new" martial art which is stealing their heritage. So please tell me is BJJ something new? Strategy and competition rules is not enough to call it different from JUDO's ground work. I know that many clubs organize no time limmits JUDO matches where ground work is included after throw. PS. To all people who are patient enough to read my note to the end - I'm not claiming that if You train BJJ You are worst. No! As we all know many BJJers won against JUDOgas, but if what I wrote above is true - BJJer=JUDO ground fighters winning against less experienced colegues. In JUDO club it usually takes much more time to become good on the ground. I'm going to place my question under few movies on YT. Thanks for all answers.

[@trampley]

+Paweł Paweł There are huge differences, mostly because of the difference in rule sets. Some positions that are very important in sport BJJ like playing open guard against a standing opponent don't really occur in Judo due to the rules about restarts. In addition, BJJ has a much more diverse submission game from the top because you cannot finish by pin. In Judo there is no incentive to try and submit someone when you're in mount, you just hold the pin and win. And in general while many positions will occur in Judo and BJJ they are generally not practiced in Judo because they're not that important, so BJJ guys will be much better at them. In the same way, Judo guys will 99.99% of the time have much better standing grappling skills than BJJ competitors, because even though BJJ guys learn throws they usually don't practice them that often and aren't that good at them. Judo groundwork emphasizes pins and fast attacks, BJJ emphasizes positional dominance ending in submission from a superior position. They are very different in practice even if there is a lot of crossover in terms of techniques. I say that as a Judo black belt and BJJ brown belt who has competed a lot in both.

[@anarchic_ramblings]

+Paweł Paweł BJJ is an offshoot of Kodokan judo. There are no _fundamental_ differences between what you learn at a BJJ club and the newaza you learn at a judo club, but there are stylistic differences, which I would describe as 'superficial'. As for the experience of training at a judo club vs. a BJJ club, one difference is that when you roll at your BJJ club you will always look for the submission, whereas when doing newaza randori at a judo club it's common to restart once one of you has pinned the other. Also, when doing newaza randori at a judo club it's common for one person to start in turtle position.

[@Mr4433]

+Paweł Paweł - They are very similar as far as origin goes. But......Today's sport Judo will get you killed in a street fight where as today's BJJ, even sport BJJ, will give you a much better shot at survival. Most judo people that I know of treat it like karate and just want to have a colored belt on and look cool. The school I used to train judo at was terrible because no one wanted to train because practicing throws and learning how to take a fall hurts, and most new judo people are allowed to train a very soft version that serves no purpose on the street or in competition. Also, a lot of Sensei's in Judo, like the weird sorta attention from the students that see them as master of life rather than just a teacher of judo.

[@trampley]

+Mr4433 that has not been my experience at all at any judo school I've trained at. Judo is usually treated as a sport and as such judoka train very hard and become highly proficient in their core game. I've found the kind of LARPong you're describing to be common at TKD and kung fu schools but I've never seen it in Judo. It's a great art for self defense.

[@Mr4433]

trampley I agree, The school that was close to me that I tried out was terrible. I love Judo when trained with people that also love Judo for what it is. There is nothing worse than someone in uniform that doesn't know shit about technique but then tells people they do Judo. Fortunately, I train BJJ now with some very high level wrestlers that love take-downs and I love doing my go to Judo techniques, mostly drop seoi-nage and ko uchi gari, and osoto gari. Cant go wrong with those 3 in combination plus wrestling.

[@ricozam7733]

I'd like to see them start on their feet. I think the outcome could be different because Jimmy would likely be able to take down Marcelo to get a strong dominant postion.

[@kalikaputra]

No he wouldn't. You think it's the first time Marcelo sparred with a too judo hi. During his competing days he went up against too BJJ guys like Jacare that also has black belts in Judo too. This is the thing with judo guys. You dream too much,but saying that Jimmy and Marcelo were having fun.

[@jonzwikk1582]

even if he did, MG would likely be able to get out or at least do enough survive

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

​@kalikaputra Jimmy Pedro is more than Just a judoka. He is an Olympic medalist.

[@Hobofobico]

This story got to me from Pedro himself: They did had tachi waza afterwards. And of course, they'll never show the video of it. Pedro was coming from a quadriceps injury and he was rusty af when this happened, yet you see how savvy his movements are. During the tachiwaza it was just a massacre against Garcia.

[@jedijudoka]

Awesome. for the sake of equality and fairness, let’s see a round starting on the feet lol.

[@donnycage]

One of two things would happen.. 1. Marcelo would pull guard and win the match. or 2. Pedro would throw him, and then Marcelo would win the match.

[@jedijudoka]

donnycage lol. I think it’s possible if jimmy got a nice throw and landed in a solid pin, bypassing marcelos guard, he might be able to tire him out and get something. Maybe?

[@kalikaputra]

@@jedijudoka no he wouldn't

[@jimiboi87]

@@kalikaputra well there’s some be way to find out!

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

@@donnycage no offense, but I suspect that you may lack the understanding or appreciation for just how quickly Olympic level judokas land their submissions during transitions from standing to the floor via throws or trips

[@WassabiYakunglee]

Judo World Champion (1) vs BJJ World Champion (5)

[@tomwalker389]

Boston in New York!

[@scubaproful]

Marcelo is world class grappler,No disrespect to jimmy.

[@ClayMationNation]

Jimmy is too. Just a different type of grappling. He was a multiple bronze medalist olympian! A lot of guys and gals I trained with at Jason Morris Judo Center now train at his place.

[@gypsydanger2148]

This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@raphaelgracia551]

Jimmy Pedro definitely causes some trouble to Marcelo.

[@mafia3941]

Yes he definitely defended the whole time hahah

[@tbnice1966]

sweeeeeet

[@carwynllewellyn6141]

Why does rolling start sitting down, if both competition and real life scenarios start standing?

[@Deuger]

Because its BJJ. BJJ specializes on ground fighting. If you want to specialize in standup go to Judo class.

[@camilomontoya7412]

Injuries dude, but it also has to do with chicken or the egg. At my bjj academy ( I have a judo background so I love tachi-waza) were rarely stand because people have no clue about throws or how to properly ukemi. It sucks but Im here for ground fighting

[@HelwigDorsuo]

What's up with the group in the back at the end? Red pants needs to reset and slap hands again after getting pushed?!

[@yangtroy1]

aye i could still tell pedro is a beast tho lol, hes a problem

[@kalcc997]

i highly dought mr garcia goes easy on anyone, its against his code. And mr pedro is a wolrd class olympic level compedator. there are submissions in judo.

[@camilomontoya7412]

marcelo was just toying with him, but this is not Jimmy's element here. Although he could probably get escape from the ground if he wanted to

[@russtang24]

jimmy has no chill

[@hermit6208]

Jimmy Pedro is a bad man, and Marcelo had him all tied up in seconds. Wow.

[@gizzmo8024]

Did he tap Jimmy in the crucifix? If so, how?

[@PapaioannouOrama]

crucifix armbar on the far arm using his legs/hips

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

@@PapaioannouOrama ding ding ding, bingo! That is also the submission Bruce Lee used in the opening scene in enter the dragon, fun fact!

[@bobkk-ev5ls]

Judo newaza nit allowed to stand thats one huge difference.

[@ricardokerscher]

Pedro's Ippon for uragatame. End of fight.

[@jimlasswell4491]

Why is Jimmy Pedro a Judo coach, not a Judo Sensei?

[@kooldude121858]

Jimmy>

[@MMAGUY13]

why does everyone think Marcelo mop the floor with this guy? he gave his back on purpose the first roll the second roll it was a tie

[@canonisensys1653]

fuck off we all saw what garcia is capable of and he can ragdoll pedro

[@ClayMationNation]

@@canonisensys1653 He can rag doll pedro? lol, Do you know what kind of friggin beast Jimmy is? He won multiple bronze medals in the olympics! Get em on their feet and see who gets ragged.

[@canonisensys1653]

@@ClayMationNation pedro will slam marcelo for sure but he will get choked out in the end do you know who marcelo is

[@ClayMationNation]

@@canonisensys1653 Of course I know who Marcel is, do YOU know who Pedro is? The guy's not just some random Judoka with a black belt, he's Olympic level and they don't play. Why do you think Royce and Hidehiko Yoshida fought to a draw?

[@canonisensys1653]

@@ClayMationNation he aint shit in the judo world just one time champ by luck he no nomura or inoue or something he aint SHIT

[@mafia3941]

Jimmy rolled like he was fighting for his life Hahhaha like an white belt

[@eamonob84]

Why do you say that? How many BJJ black belts do you think would do better against a multiple time world champion?

[@TheDoughGetta]

It is obvious that Marcello is rolling light with Jimmy.

[@profd65]

+Travis Gibson It's not obvious to anybody who knows what's going on.

[@TheGooinureye]

+profd65 It's funny but without the proper context and the whole video people tend to just make up stuff. Jimmy has been retired for over 10-years and was there as the Zebra mat rep without a gi. Jimmy was a good sport and got on the mat to train with him. They didn't show the stand up part of the workout but those who know what happens when wrestlers put a gi on against Judo players. The video also doesn't show all of the rolling but like I said it was just a workout..

[@interpreter911]

+Stuart Ramos He´s wearing a judo gi, a mizuno and it´s not a new one. No need to make excuses for the guy, he´s a judo beast and a great grappler but Marcelo is on another level.

[@JasonMorrisJudoCentermd]

+interpreter911 it is not his gi but you would know that if you were there.

[@TheGooinureye]

interpreter911 "Another level" You got to be kidding me. I also have a black belt in bjj and know how hard the sport is but to compare that to a double Olympic medalist not to mention world champion you really need to wake up. Millions of people practice Judo and 202 countries participate in the Olympics you can't compare how hard it is to medal in the Olympics. Yep I will agree Marcelo could be the best submission grappler but to say he's on another level is silly.

[@yevgeniyzharinov7473]

MArcelinho could not submit him.