March of the Machine Precons: Worst to Best

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Жыл бұрын

This is your FULL review of all five March of the Machine precons, from worst to best! Figure out which ones you want to buy from Magic's newest set!
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@EMMYMXNC
@EMMYMXNC Жыл бұрын
I love how content that kitty is with the ear scratchies
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
She LOVES them
@poutinemcflurry3544
@poutinemcflurry3544 Жыл бұрын
Hedron detonator is the perfect example of almost every set having a card that was just randomly made for Prosper Tomb-bound
@Noddy-Gaming
@Noddy-Gaming Жыл бұрын
2:35 Divine Convocation 12:10 Growing Threat 17:58 Call for Backup 25:04 Tinker Time 33:23 Cavalry Charge
@andrewrockwell1282
@andrewrockwell1282 Жыл бұрын
I'm reviewing the comments from worst to best! 😂
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Good luck with that!
@MTG69
@MTG69 Жыл бұрын
Pick me, pick me!
@roondoger
@roondoger Жыл бұрын
If only Myrel, Shield of Argive was a knight instead of soldiers. That would be absolutely insane
@Cupitron
@Cupitron Жыл бұрын
true, we need a knight version NOW
@shawngriffith6901
@shawngriffith6901 Жыл бұрын
As any horsegirl will tell you the bond between a person and a horse is incredibly powerful and unbreakable. Horsemanship taps into that bond and together they can't be stopped.
@andrueurbane7361
@andrueurbane7361 Жыл бұрын
Great content! It is fun that they brought back a bunch of old borderline abilities from flanking, horsemanship, convoke, hybrid mana, and more. You never know how a set plays until you play it, but the throwbacks give me chills and evoke some great if dusty memories.
@ElevenBricks
@ElevenBricks Жыл бұрын
The biggest weakness of the Convoke deck imo was not being in green, which had the best convoke spells prior to this set. However I like how they are shifting what is essentially a ramp keyword out of the color with the best ramp.
@Timbuktu-qt2lj
@Timbuktu-qt2lj Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for making these and getting them out before the decks are released. I appreciate your analysis and use it when making my decisions about which decks to get or skip.
@silvershadow4297
@silvershadow4297 Жыл бұрын
Ur telling me that the eminence commander is the best one 😮
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Pretty weird right?
@ventusdm9505
@ventusdm9505 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the hard work! ❤
@adamwhite4215
@adamwhite4215 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are giving the convoke precon a lower rank than the others. The ability to use your creatures as mana and a commander that can be paid for a unique way has always shown to be a heavy hitter. (Derevi, Yuriko, Liesa,) Honestly, it's the only one I'm interested in. I'm not saying it's the best out of box out of the 5 but I definitely feel it's not the worst. Looking forward to playing them all against each other with friends for some good out-of-box playtesting! :)
@Hanbro1o
@Hanbro1o Жыл бұрын
Having gotten this deck, it is a lot of fun and performs better than expected! Tapping your whole board for Wildfire Awakener is legitimately busted
@KodamaoftheWeastTree
@KodamaoftheWeastTree Жыл бұрын
I’ve played against this deck both vanilla and upgrade in pods with each of the other decks both upgraded and vanilla, and it loses literally every game. It is by and far the worst deck,
@adamwhite4215
@adamwhite4215 Жыл бұрын
@@Hanbro1o Agreed, Wildfire Awakener did some work the matches I've played with it!
@89qwyg9yqa34t
@89qwyg9yqa34t Жыл бұрын
Vedalken Humiliator was probably put in there for stuff like slivers, or an army of indestructible/deathtouch/protection things, or if there's like a deck with a creature that can block everything all at once. Whatever. Even if they're just huge, they'll be 1/1 and attacking may not be nearly the big deal it otherwise would be.
@BlueGriffin20
@BlueGriffin20 Жыл бұрын
I’m getting the backup deck to pick apart for my Marisi, Breaker of the Coil deck. It has a bunch of mentor/training cards that will work great with some of those pieces.
@Cupitron
@Cupitron Жыл бұрын
I was waiting 4 your review guys, really love your videos❤
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
We love doing these!
@lorcanawithluke
@lorcanawithluke Жыл бұрын
I know Chant of Vitu-Ghazi is kinda bad still, but it prevents all damage from creatures, not just combat dmg. I think that's pretty relevant in some cases with Chandra's Ignition or Ziatora etc. So its not JUST a fog. But I'll agree its kind bad. In precon environment maybe it can be good.
@Qroe
@Qroe Жыл бұрын
Love that you guys mentioned one of my favorite cards, Intruder Alarm. When I heard about the convoke deck, I hoped we’d get a reprint. But, nope.
@zenalias3131
@zenalias3131 Жыл бұрын
Lore/fluff wise, Kamigawa fox-folk have interesting naming convention. We've got Bright-Palm, Light-Paws, Pearl Ear, Golden-Tail etc. So nope, Light-Paws and Bight-Palm are two different characters
@heymarkdg
@heymarkdg Жыл бұрын
And yes I knew the quote before you finished saying it. Love it.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
YES
@Medjai_1457
@Medjai_1457 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if someone already pointed this out or not, but Brimaz's proliferate triggers at the end of every end step, not just your own
@jrickey
@jrickey Жыл бұрын
Vedalken Humiliator was included because Gimbal gives all your artifact creatures trample. Once you get a couple of Gremlin tokens out, it's like a weird, inverted Overrun of sorts. Still probably worth cutting, but it's a cute trick for a precon.
@Chaoslorden
@Chaoslorden Жыл бұрын
I can right away tell that the "unique tokens" deck will be a paint to keep track on all the things. Table will look like someone blew up confetti all over the place haha. To preserve brain power I have started to limit the bimnwr of different tokens and triggers as much as possible and still keep it powerful because it can become so time consuming to keep track of everything and manage the tokens.
@Smaul002
@Smaul002 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of ppl are sleeping on Kasla. Preordain on a beefy keyword soup creature that has built in cost reduction is not as bad as everyone is making it seem. Even if you preordain 5 times throughout the game, that’s good value.
@TheManBearPig89
@TheManBearPig89 Жыл бұрын
I don't think she is a bad commande, I think the problem is that a convoke theme isn't that well supported by the other cards in the 99.
@davidramage8860
@davidramage8860 Жыл бұрын
She herself has convoke, making her easy to cast and recast, keeping a strong board presence. And don't forget card's like kembas banner and horn of Valhalla! Kasla will be a ongoing face smasher throughout the game.
@Smaul002
@Smaul002 Жыл бұрын
@@davidramage8860 WOW, those cards are gas. I forgot about Kemba’s banner
@bernabegarcia786
@bernabegarcia786 Жыл бұрын
Great vid thank you
@shawngriffith6901
@shawngriffith6901 Жыл бұрын
I think "Bright-Palm Light-Paws" is a naming convention for their species or culture similar to the ratfolk with Marrow-Gnawer and Ink-eyes
@a.velderrain8849
@a.velderrain8849 Жыл бұрын
I remember the "Go back to Gimbals" line, because my family insists on watching ELF every single year.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
YES I KNEW I WASN’T ALONE
@MBison-fs8vp
@MBison-fs8vp Жыл бұрын
Not sure if it was in the decklist or not but Scaretiller fits perfectly in the convoke deck
@EntheogenShaman
@EntheogenShaman Жыл бұрын
Love that you still found a way to take a jab at Grave Titan lol, never change.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Grave Titan is never safe
@andalov
@andalov Жыл бұрын
Thisss is the only one video I had being waiting all over the internet
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Welp, here it is!
@sethl.9945
@sethl.9945 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty new to the format but I have been following your channel for a few weeks. This is a great idea for a segment cause there's a ton of overwhelming information. keep up the good work!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Hope it helped you!
@bobfranklin2572
@bobfranklin2572 Жыл бұрын
Thanks lads
@kaladin_nightsong
@kaladin_nightsong Жыл бұрын
As someone who has played the backup deck… the wurm is fantastic!!
@patricklynch4074
@patricklynch4074 11 ай бұрын
I have both the gimbal artifacts deck and the knights deck, and i always felt the artifacts were underperforming! I was very surprised when it got #2. Could you give a quick explanation of why its good? I dont really see it myself, nor with gimbal himself. As for the knights, i wanted to cut arvad but i realized if i ever had him i should bring out sidhar jabari and use them together. Other than the commander, he doesnt synergize with anything. That said, synergizing with such a good commander was enough for me to keep him in. Thoughts?
@zonimi
@zonimi Жыл бұрын
Elenda, the Dusk Rose is a Knight. And Blade of Selves in the Backup deck seems a good fit.
@doom7684
@doom7684 Жыл бұрын
Ga ga ga garbo. I cracked up hard.
@potatolegs1305
@potatolegs1305 Жыл бұрын
Chant has actually saved my butt already but I totally see your point 😆 it's ridiculously expensive
@89qwyg9yqa34t
@89qwyg9yqa34t Жыл бұрын
Not sure what the issue is with Revolt. If something died by, say, sacrifice, you get a super-scry. I'd probably use it at 3 mana, but if you very much don't need lands (or do), this is one great way to make whatever you need more likely each turn.
@theboller4154
@theboller4154 4 ай бұрын
Sidar just jumps from the griffen to a pegasus.
@EXPNormandy
@EXPNormandy Жыл бұрын
The Red Terror is a must have for the Call for Backup deck. 2 card combo with Shalai and Hallar.
@AaKkisa
@AaKkisa Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget War Elemental and Heliod, Sun-Crowned. All three are going into my Shalai and Hallar deck.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 Жыл бұрын
32:25 with Wojek Embermage (pings with Radiance) or Izzet Staticaster you basically board wide every turn (and also Polymorphist's Jest) Call for Backup deck feeds on any ETB payoff, like triggered abilities duplicators
@wakefieldwade4019
@wakefieldwade4019 Жыл бұрын
Great video.. thanks guys. This set of commander decks seem super medium.
@AnnaJaneMTG
@AnnaJaneMTG Жыл бұрын
Comcoke was primarily selesnya in the past so a lot really good convoke cards (March og the Multitudes, Chord of Calling, Impervious Greatwurm, etc) are all green and not playable in Jeskai
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Yeah, even the black dragon is out of bounds color-wise
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
It is annoying for sure
@CloudsFPV
@CloudsFPV Жыл бұрын
I always try the new "premium sleeves" that come out and I always prefer my dragon shields.
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 Жыл бұрын
WotC should face federal charges for not printing a goddamn banana token for Kibo. Unacceptable.
@Frawzen480
@Frawzen480 Жыл бұрын
7:46 can anyone else appreciate how fast he said "blue" 4 times?
@dylan9624
@dylan9624 Жыл бұрын
For Calvary charge I ended up putting in the circle of loyalty seems to fit well
@ethanwhite145
@ethanwhite145 Жыл бұрын
Wave-knight goes infinite with benthic biomancer. Still need Jace/lab man to not die to it though
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome 😎
@MforMovesets
@MforMovesets Жыл бұрын
Tinker Time has GREAT tools. I missed out on cards like the Golden Goose, I get the deck for that alone.
@samueloak
@samueloak Жыл бұрын
Harsh Mercy for the knight deck. You’re welcome 😉
@Mr_B_251
@Mr_B_251 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Chief Engineer didn't get brought up for Kasla. Gives all artifact spells convoke. I can see a Kasla deck built around tutoring that thing out and protecting it.
@MrDontSubscribeToMe
@MrDontSubscribeToMe Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a lot of fun!
@jacoby-wan_kenobi
@jacoby-wan_kenobi Жыл бұрын
The backup commander for the Naya deck is really good...
@lemonsnek9393
@lemonsnek9393 Жыл бұрын
Mondrak doesn’t work with incubate, right? You get the incubator tokens but they don’t enter with counters on them
@joemash4193
@joemash4193 Жыл бұрын
How about Encroahing Myosynth in the Gimbal Gremlin deck? Turns all nonland permanents you control into artifacts. Then if you have Ghirapur Aether Grid out there you can tap all permanents to deal damage to the face. Also considering adding Kar, Living Legacy PW.
@IBeScrappyDoo2
@IBeScrappyDoo2 Жыл бұрын
Bright-Palm is the brother to Light-paws or maybe a distant cousin !! lol
@nathanwilson3507
@nathanwilson3507 Жыл бұрын
"Does the griffin then ride the horse?" "I think so" 🤣🤣😂
@Eldrad235
@Eldrad235 Жыл бұрын
Sidar is a Jacked up Varina and the deck plays exactly like my zombie deck freaking hell the deck comes with zombies even look up a varina deck list when making this deck (they messed up cutting low cmc knights in my opinion)
@Shiek200
@Shiek200 Жыл бұрын
Important to note for Magda and convoke, that she DOES sort of tap for 2 mana... provided that mana is being used for 2 separate spells. Since costs are all paid collectively magda's trigger won't create the treasure in time for you to also use THAT to pay the costs for the spell you tapped magda for, but once the spell is paid for and on the stack you'll have the treasure and can use it for anything else.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
This is very true
@Beckola44
@Beckola44 Жыл бұрын
Most of these Pre-cons are not that good. The Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir is such a strong Commander along with its Eminence ability. I also like Locthwain Lancer, Adeline, and Herald of Hoofbeats. Knights will be making a comeback. Thank you for the video Nitpicking Nerds.
@Munchie3777
@Munchie3777 Жыл бұрын
C'mon beezy the task at hand is chasing birds xd
@energetek661
@energetek661 Жыл бұрын
Amber and precons!! Lets go!!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Best combo confirmed?
@robertcardenas9336
@robertcardenas9336 Жыл бұрын
Bro elf is my favorite Christmas movie!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Used to watch it every Christmas!
@dant1386
@dant1386 Жыл бұрын
History of benallia is a good addition for the esper deck as well
@SWAT6809
@SWAT6809 Жыл бұрын
also Brimaz says "each end step" so you can proliferate 4 times in a turncycle
@rynebillings2226
@rynebillings2226 Жыл бұрын
People really are sleeping on Wand of the World Soul. A mana rock that can turn your creatures into mana dorks for a single spell is a powerful effect. I'll be surprised if it doesn't become a staple in creature based decks that run white in the future.
@spudster8887
@spudster8887 Жыл бұрын
But it's basically a 4 mana rock? That's ... really weak
@rynebillings2226
@rynebillings2226 Жыл бұрын
@@spudster8887 it entering tapped doesn't make it a four mana rock. People do play 2 cmc rocks that enter tapped. They don't suddenly become 3 cmc just because you can't use them that turn.
@spudster8887
@spudster8887 Жыл бұрын
@@rynebillings2226 I actively disagree, entering tapped is costing you a mana
@rynebillings2226
@rynebillings2226 Жыл бұрын
@@spudster8887 you can disagree, but it's not actually true unless you're playing cEDH. What you're saying amounts to "Rampant Growth is bad because it puts a land in play tapped"
@spudster8887
@spudster8887 Жыл бұрын
@@rynebillings2226 I mean no because it's still 2 mana ramp. Being a 3 mana rock already makes it bad, it entering tapped is a literal death knell without synergy
@Rayan01012
@Rayan01012 Жыл бұрын
Will we ever get the old precon upgrades back?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
We like doing them but interest in individual precon videos has died down over the years!
@stinkypoodog
@stinkypoodog Жыл бұрын
Imo, I feel like most of the new convoke cards are quite powerful, and theres already so many degenerate ways to create many tokens easily, even specific coloured tokens. You could easily build a powerful convoke deck with a decent token engine/package. Edit: also alot of combo potential because of how you can cast things for free
@mitchwhite8941
@mitchwhite8941 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I love the design space. It's refreshing to see fun and unique interesting decks builds across the table rather than just tuned up monsters with all the same staples all the time.
@GizZm086
@GizZm086 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
This set is looking great!
@nogard0497
@nogard0497 Жыл бұрын
Beezy age reveal guys! The Nerds lore Iceberg is growing!
@rfccw949
@rfccw949 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the nerds upgrade the backup commander precon with shalai and hallar as the commander
@Blackvolttage
@Blackvolttage Жыл бұрын
No mention of path of the pyromancer? (And the other paths btw, all except blue are various flavours of fine even outside planechase)
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 Жыл бұрын
Argus is a great shout
@kamilwhaley-kalaora4839
@kamilwhaley-kalaora4839 Жыл бұрын
Swap bright palm for shalai and halar and the deck becomes easily the most powerful and definitely has the best potential considering it has 3 two-card infinite combos with the commander and goes crazy with things like mana gorger hydra or cathars crusade
@AaKkisa
@AaKkisa Жыл бұрын
Exactly how I’m building it
@andymessick5964
@andymessick5964 Жыл бұрын
Brimaz can proliferate at the end of EACH end step
@muninn92
@muninn92 Жыл бұрын
There are some places now that are presaling some of these decks for almost 80 now.
@wolfsajin
@wolfsajin Жыл бұрын
I understand the idea of taking out Arvad the cursed from the knights precon. But the fact the deck does start with 10 legendary creatures has gotta count for something! Definitely a bummer he doesn’t count himself for the +2/+2
@martinithechobit
@martinithechobit Жыл бұрын
Ty I am deciding what to get. May be none.
@user-rc6hi1vm7h
@user-rc6hi1vm7h Жыл бұрын
41:30 can someone explain to me how kindred discovery works with waverider?
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
- I wouldn't be surprised if the Blight Titan art was originally cancelled Grave Titan art... - Very surprised how much Kalonian Hydra is these days when I bought it in the dollar bulk rares box at my LGS a few years ago - Conclave Sledge-Captain getting drunk with his Selesnya friends after a long day in the club: ''Baby got to backup backup backup that mammoth...'' - Esper/Mardu Knight Tribal= Awesome :P
@MBison-fs8vp
@MBison-fs8vp Жыл бұрын
I like Call of the Bloodline for the Knights deck as well
@Killericon
@Killericon Жыл бұрын
There is an Invasion of Xerex! It even flips into a Knight. It's not a GOOD battle, but still
@metaphics
@metaphics Жыл бұрын
Haakon fits in the precon right? Loot him into the yard, then play him out and start playing other knights too. He’s not mass reanimating but it still seems good.
@patrickmurphy8604
@patrickmurphy8604 Жыл бұрын
He's included in the deck
@metaphics
@metaphics Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmurphy8604 lol I should have checked the deck list. Ty!
@MRnobodyoftheeveryb
@MRnobodyoftheeveryb Жыл бұрын
I need uncivil unrest for my Marchesa the Black Rose Deck, omg is that OP
@sabomusicllc8165
@sabomusicllc8165 Жыл бұрын
Tinker time is way better than anyone at the table expected. I was so pissed at divine convocation, I was looking forward to it and it is trash out of the box.
@nickd6303
@nickd6303 Жыл бұрын
The big issue I see for the phyrexian deck is if we will see them or incubate again. The convoke deck feels like it's missing some things, additional gripe the face commander is an ALLY when's the next ally set? No pressing complaints for the other three.
@DraygaFlight
@DraygaFlight Жыл бұрын
Incubate has terrifying synergy with token REPLACEMENT like Jinnie?
@altromonte15
@altromonte15 Жыл бұрын
I liked temple of the false god in golos flicker because I have the greed of a goblin, sadly I've never found a deck outside of that where it's playable
@arouk7766
@arouk7766 Жыл бұрын
I think Wintermoor Commander is far better than they are making it out to be.....2 Mana 2 power, deathtouch, increasing toughness and the best part giving indestructible to a knight...... This is a dude that you sling and let attack creatures trigger, I like the card especially for 2
@BlobThoughtsMTG
@BlobThoughtsMTG Жыл бұрын
You guys should make a video all about Grave Titan alternatives 😂
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, move over Grave Titan, Blight Titan is HERE
@perk2469
@perk2469 Жыл бұрын
"Oh boy I'm looking forward to get the convoke deck!"😀 NN: "Convoke deck is the worst one" 🙃
@Jakep54903
@Jakep54903 Жыл бұрын
I think they are wrong
@weeklyweeks7545
@weeklyweeks7545 Жыл бұрын
Amber she can purr anytime. As long as she is double sleeved in dragon shield on cool stuff Inc.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Always double sleeve your cats!
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg Жыл бұрын
Teferris ageless insight and the other thing with the same effect is just strsight up card advantage in this deck. Reccomend %100.
@insertname5195
@insertname5195 Жыл бұрын
that sounds very good
@blaarfengaar
@blaarfengaar Жыл бұрын
Alhammaret's Archive is the original version that you're thinking of btw
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg Жыл бұрын
@@blaarfengaar thx. They are both pretty broken when your commander just says draw a card from the command zone.
@blaarfengaar
@blaarfengaar Жыл бұрын
@@skullkrusher-dx4kg absolutely, I have Alhammaret's in my Kruphix deck and the value it provides is absolutely absurd
@frankmagyar5532
@frankmagyar5532 Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to make Gimbal UFO tribal
@VeilXI
@VeilXI Жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with Read the Bones? Seems decent to me.
@riverswater5688
@riverswater5688 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this video exists… I was debating which one to get
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Hope it helped at least!
@mmmmmq
@mmmmmq Жыл бұрын
31:55 three different tokens at three drastically different price points 😋
@flyingsquirrel111
@flyingsquirrel111 Жыл бұрын
I knew Jeskai was going to get the weakest rating. The face commander is so cool, exciting, and visually appealing. Hopefully convoke gets more support.
@akumu2625
@akumu2625 Жыл бұрын
U forgot city on fire, which is work well with impact tremor in the convoke deck
@rquer7913
@rquer7913 Жыл бұрын
37:30 They may be riding a Hippogriph, which is partially a horse, so horsemanship would make sense... :D
@SodCharlie
@SodCharlie Жыл бұрын
Omg i love Amber, so beautiful and thanks for all the videos
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Жыл бұрын
Best cat in the multiverse
@dameonpigeon2736
@dameonpigeon2736 Жыл бұрын
Man I just bought a secure the wastes. Unfortunate timing for me
@2pocketdeuces
@2pocketdeuces Жыл бұрын
How’d you not mention shalai and hallar?
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