Composer & Lyricist Hear More Video Game Music For the First Time

[@MarcoMeatball]

We chatted quite a bit more than usual in this episode, also less vgm, and one of their pieces: I hope you find value in the conversation!

[@higorgabriel2598]

The name of the chapter in the video is Galaxy rush, but the name of the game is Gravity rush

[@Lord__Soul]

The perfect episode

[@JohnDoe-ug3su]

Good stuff and their piece is great

[@Quincy915]

I actually would have like more conversation about Promised Consort. It's a shame Garth wasn't there.

[@koagz]

I very much enjoy the conversations!

[@jinjinjinrou]

Why do I see Marco in all 3 stages of life when they are together?

[@movieatrssmaker]

there is certainly an archetype in their visuals a marcotype if your feeling fancy

[@annedurk111]

Such cool dudes. I envy your comradery, affinity with music, and open mindedness. Keep it up, it's super inspiring (also appreciate the humorous moments that happen now and then!)!

[@annedurk111]

Hadn't actually finished the video here but Laude was awesome too, damn

[@abbynormal5913]

Man, I forgot how much I love the second half of The Promised Consort! For, uh, some strange reason, I'm MUCH more familiar with the first 30 or so seconds of the song than I am with the rest of it. >_>

[@uckbritley1305]

i want miquella to step on me

[@sleep_enjoyer13]

Strange yeah, wonder why 🤔

[@ShikiRyougi05]

Wow that's so odd...

[@cn2490]

Reaction contents, Let's play gameplay, streamer content, short content etc among other things. In radio era, they called it "in it for the first 20 seconds to win it" i think, so that the audience doesn't change channel or switch song. Also the first half is more masculine and menacing so suit the image of the final boss more.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

@@cn2490 ...are you serious?

[@MakkutheFairy]

I was thinking about the whole "context" discussion the other week since it's something you bring up quite a lot in your videos, and I think the place I came to with it was: "Do you miss out on something listening to music without context? Yes.... Does that invalidate or even lessen your enjoyment of the piece? No." Because at the end of the day, we all miss out on a lot of things that others pick up on as we are all different unique individuals. The person who isn't a chef may not know what ingredients went into a dish and may not know if it is French or English cooking but they do know it's delicious. For me, I've studied Japanese for over a decade now so there are games (mostly from Japan obviously) where there are references or nuances in the Japanese language that get totally lost in translation and a part of me wants to shout out "IT'S BECAUSE OF ____!" when I see people talk about weird Japanese game trends... but that doesn't change the fact that the people playing without that knowledge still love the game and sometimes notice things I don't notice because they aren't distracted by the context... and to counter that there's plenty I miss because studying over a decade doesn't come close to the knowledge and experience you gain from growing up in that context. In the end, we all come from different paths with different levels of experience and knowledge that shapes our perspective of how we view the world (music included) and no two people will view the same thing exactly the same way.... but those differences and things we and others "miss out on" doesn't devalue our experience... in a sense it's part of what adds value to it. Much like how a recipe needs various ingredients working in unison towards a recipe, a piece of art needs multiple colours and textures working towards a great picture, and music needs multiple scales and notes to work towards a single piece, I think it's these variations between us and our experiences that truly adds beauty and purpose to our discussions about art. There is no "Right way" to experience art or "Optimal strategy" to get value out of it in my opinion =) Sorry for the long ramble. Keep up the great videos!

[@ursulcx299]

That complete serious face "I agree except that I wasnt in Vienna last week?" was just perfect XD

[@IvoryMadness.]

I really didn't mind that were less music, the discussion where really good! And I didn't knew both of them have worked together! Oh, and the outro was def something! 😂😂😂

[@U8V3]

Hot damn, 2 of my favorite guests come together. Was just hoping for another video from Mr (Dr?) Wanamaker last night. This is awesome man, thanks for doing this once again

[@MrStsveins]

There's such good chemistry between you three it's good to see!!

[@Malao558]

There's a quote, I think it's from some random Tumblr post, that I always think of when the topic of why we listen to music comes up. Art is how we decorate space, and music is how we decorate time.

[@AgsNfz]

Always interesting to hear the perspectives from the other side of music. Two things id like to comment, first I wish game companies released versions of songs without loop, they would sound more complete to non player listeners. Second, finally someone gave Gravity Rush some love, both games have lovely songs.

[@Ir1della]

I have no qualms with The Promised Consort being reused for another video, it’s honestly such a masterpiece of a musical composition. :000000

[@Mako0123]

"This is the best outro ever. Thank you very much" Please clip that :) I love these guys, such an excelent analysis on everything

[@vasil.kamdzhalov]

The choir that one of the guests mentions in the Witcher 3 part, of what it reminds him of, is "La mystere de voix Bulgares" and one of the songs of Percival Lazare or something like that is from the same region, the song is used with different name in the game.

[@rapture_bishop]

This trifecta is amazing- I would love to hear talks like this every once in a while!

[@WishDragonGaming]

Absolutely love this aspect of your channel, and these types of videos are the absolute best you do. Keep up the great videos Marco!

[@GeneralSpecific]

Purple shirt guy didn't seem too English until I heard the completely uncalled-for shade thrown at the French l😂

[@proudlarry8225]

When a song is emotionally jarring during an intense moment, it is not distracting, it is so intense that the awe pulls out some adrenaline and it often makes it easier to mentally focus on the experience. It simultaneously adds a sense of wonder, like "oh no, they have a melancholy theme song but are clearly an endgame boss, just what happened here?"

[@vlander1992able]

Am I the only one that thinks Garth and Greg's piece would fit right into Final Fantasy? I can imagine the characters dancing around in a festival while a bright tailed comet passes over head.

[@Malao558]

Accordion is an easily underrated instrument. It's surprisingly versatile. It's always nice to hear a prominent accordion in pieces like that Gravity Rush song.

[@KarnizArchada]

I sort of REALLY hoped when Mr. Wanamaker started asking about what was happening [visually] during the battle in "The Promised Consort" that you would have shown him the gameplay...! Normally I enjoy when they give insight with no visual context but I think it really would have given him a little more of an idea to the beauty of why Soulsborne music is the way it is. Ok back to the video!

[@سبحانالله-و5ل8ض]

About miquella , the character think he is making the world better place and want peace but with a disgusting method , and while u fight him u are literally fucked but his musix still gentle. Which represents the contrast between the concept he embraces and the reality he is in .

[@danielr5817]

Adagio for strings was also used by Tiesto in an electronic cover. One of my favorites

[@AtomicZamurai]

I don't care how many times Promised Consort Radahn themes appears, ITS NEVER ENOUGH for this great ost🔥🔥

[@sleep_enjoyer13]

Perfect piece fitting of a finale. Great storytelling, I adore the implications of Miquella's story progressing and his emotions changing as the music plays. Like Miquella singing a gentle lullaby to heal the broken pieces of the world, turning into powerful and overwhelming order, then into a desperate plea. Not to mention the heroic, celebratory and regal style of Radahn's part. Fantastic piece.

[@teunvanderveen6477]

Yes but i more dlc ost is always aprecciated

[@Vasilar]

Nah

[@AtomicZamurai]

@@Vasilar yes

[@Vasilar]

@@AtomicZamurai nah

[@lavitzthejadedragoon]

That was a blast to listen to. Great guests with interesting insights and fair bit of laughs, thanks for the video, chief

[@cerealbox7872]

Slow music in boss fights is usually associated with pain, regret, loss, failure, etc, and are usually heavily story driven. Like putting down a scared wounded rampaging animal, being forced to fight your best friend or family member, or being confronted with an angelic, graceful being who's motivations are pure but their methods are cruel and unjust. Because they're slow and emotional, they stand out more among the loud bombastic boss fights and stick with you longer (probably also because they're tied to intense story beats).

[@keithfilibeck2390]

A more effective summation of Radhan the Promised Consort, is that you are introduced to a Demi-God of War, and then the ascension of a True God of love and Hope, and you oppose this duo, impossibly so.

[@maiks1902]

"Lalalay" from Sword of Destiny are so nostalgic to me

[@wthea7913]

Marco this feels like i just tuned into a zoom class and i love it. Thanks for putting out this great content.

[@Dread_Maximus]

The earlier conversation about context and lack thereof has got me thinking about something. The music of Final Fantasy 12 has a lot of thematic pieces tied to locales. When I first heard these many years ago they really made me feel like I was in these fantastical places. Hearing them standalone always takes me back to those places in the game. I would be very interested to hear what you make of them and how they'd make you feel given your lack of context. I think going through these tracks on some place like spotify would be best so you aren't spoiled by the visual element present on youtube. I'm sure there are games with locale music beyond ff12 that also grant this sort of feeling to other people, so it would be an interesting subject to explore more generally. Trying to derive the context from the musical piece itself via analysis of its motifs and effect of the progression and then seeing if what you guessed was close to what's present in-game. I think that would be really cool. You could even have guests partake if you find that sort of exercise fun after trying it out.

[@zabieru2097]

I don't know if you've already done so, but I recommend the OST of the A Plague Tale games (particularly Requiem). A very successful medieval-style soundtrack

[@holysecret2]

Especially "Brother" to me is incredibly beautiful. I think the first game had more impactful "dramatic" music, though. "Big Sister", "Grieving" very slow and dark, "The Inquisition" looming and threatening, "Beyond the Horizon" like you are expending your last bit of energy in a desperate struggle. Brother from the sequel is my overall favorite single piece, but as a whole I think the first soundtrack is more impactful and on a higher level on average, so to speak. I missed the "dark violin" as I call it in Requiem, it was largely replaced by choir and orchestra, which had less character and depth in my personal opinion.

[@GamerayVideos]

I see that ''The Mystery of Bulgarian Voices'' or in French ''Le Mystere des Voix Bulgares'' has been mentioned. I'd like to add that the song from The Witcher 3 - ''Steel For Humans'' is in fact Bulgarian in origin, it is a song about Lazarus. So that gentleman has a good ear since The Witcher 3 composer uses Bulgarian motifs in some of the music for the game.

[@reaperofthings]

24:42 Amazing, he ripped the thoughts and imagery right out of my head. Because I was just listening to the music, my mind immediately conjured up Belle walking through that village. How the bloody hell did he know? Edit: I do wonder how Garth and Greg would have reacted to the Promised Consort if they had heard Starscourge Radahn before or after. Because I remember during the ranking of ER’s music that you re listened to both and decided that Starscourge Radahn was above The Promised Consort as a track. Would Garth and Greg have thought the same thing perhaps? 46:51 When I was in the boss fight myself for the first time, I will be genuinely honest. I barely noticed the start of the second phase. I was way too busy fearing for my life. Subsequent runs I could hear it, but didn’t think it out of place knowing exactly who I was fighting. It enhanced the atmosphere significantly in my opinion. Still below Starscourge Radahn in my opinion, but that was a completely different kettle of fish. 1:23:33 reminds me slightly of The Weight of the World with how he described that

[@Nitram4392]

I'm glad someone acknowledged Gravity Rush's existence. I love the games, but sometimes I feel like I am the only one.

[@bicks4436]

Thanks for my annual dose of gravity rush getting repped

[@kingjamos2422]

Garth so reminds me of an English professor I had back in college, in the best possible way. He was a pretty awesome guy, he would be critical of what you did, but he was pretty friendly. He kind of wrote the book on literature... quite literally. We actually used his book for our class. Now that is one way to get book sales!

[@seajay7944]

Listening to their piece was a nice addition into the video. I went through enough classical music classes to get a minor degree, but even to this day I don't go out of my way to really listen to these performances. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy them, however. In context of relating to video game music, I could easily close my eyes and imagine a bustling street festival in your classic RPG with this playing in the background. Very fun movement.

[@Trev0413]

My favorite vids of yours; entertaining and educational, cheers

[@nixishierfrei]

I am almost a little surprised I didn't mind this being more heavy on the discussion. Garth and Gregory are great guest on their own and have a wonderful chemistry with each other and you.

[@masterofdoom5000]

Marco, his music dad....and his other music dad. Perfection

[@TsukiAnimeGirl]

I really appreciate the mention of Final Symphony, it's not that popular, but it's one of the best arranges I ever heard of Final Fantasy tracks.

[@lordofblocks]

Listening to Laude reminded me of the game Kingdom Come Deliverance, which has a great OST. You should also give the Saint Barbara Theme for the upcoming KCD 2 a listen.

[@neti9065]

Garth and Greg´s song sounds like it belongs in a Civilization game.

[@Urugosh]

I'm so happy you brought up the movie, "Fantasia." I grew up with that movie as a child, I would fall asleep listening to Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, and rewind it after A Night on Bald Mountain. Without that movie, I would not have nearly as much interest in classical music as I do today.

[@SolitasRuisu]

I believe you get your music for these videos from youtube right? I would be a bit careful when choosing like this because often times the channels uploading the tracks don't properly inform you when they have edited long loops into the music, and can give the wrong impression when out of context. In particular Vendecentre, looking at the track in the official soundtrack on spotify, it's only really two minutes long, but I have the impression the track you've shown in the video was edited to be much longer. So it probably wasn't intended to be looping this many times when listening out of the game's context.

[@volpe7436]

Always happy to see my goat gravity rush getting some love it's soundtracks for both games are incredible

[@fireaza]

Fantastic to see more _Gravity Rush_ music getting an appearance!

[@googoorami7958]

Nice tracks btw! Next time I think we should spice it up though. Hmmm…. Oh! How about we reference the ETERNAL PROMISED CONSORT, RADAHN. MALENIA, BLADE OF MIQUELLA. THE FINAL BATTLE. Maybe throw in some destiny ones too like RHULK, THE FIRST DISCIPLE. This is sarcasm but it would be really cool to see their reactions 😭

[@Daikyu9.47]

Conversations are very enjoyable, everyone are so well spoken

[@In-Midnight-Clad]

This was so freaking good.

[@In-Midnight-Clad]

Legit best outro ever

[@SolDizZo]

I think it's because of video games that I can sit and listen to Metal without getting unduly emotionally affected. People always tell me the music gets them so hyped up but I can listen to extremely heavy metal and be in such a beautiful meditative state about the art.

[@murayoro]

Interestingly enough the promised consort has a grab attack where he kindly embraces you it does no physical damage but it does put half of a crown on your head and if he does this twice you get on your knees and pledge yourself to him and it will say heart stolen which is a unique death animation...... And it just really fits that the solo child singer sounds quiet and kind as they embrace you.

[@nicha7298]

You HAVE to show some of these people Mourning from Nier Automata

[@Vaulir0637]

Man, I loved the Gravity rush series so much. Spent so many hours exploring those worlds. Terribly sad that they haven't done anything with the series since then

[@cupbored]

Having to listen to The Promised Consort through AirPods must have been quite painful on the ears and sadly a mere husk of the experience it should normally offer

[@nintenou]

Garth and Greg's piece reminded me of the uplifting and sometimes ethereal tracks used in older Monster Hunter games as story completion pieces and special village event songs. With or without the vocals, it would be a great fit! For song recommendations, (though not similar) I'd recommend pieces like Monster Hunter Tri credits theme or the Diva songs from 4. Dance of Flames / Flame Dance from God Eater Burst is also a piece with fantastic rhythm and melody!

[@L3thalxgriinder]

This video was great. I loved hearing two veterans of the field kind a bounce their mostly aligned but differing views of the songs. Try getting Noodle on here. He's a video game essay guy, but he has a good video of adaptive music, and i think he would gladly share his favorite songs. Especially with his recent video of MotorStorm.

[@Crocko919]

Comparing opera to the olimpics is the best remark about it I've heard

[@mcsquared5005]

It's like young man Marco interviewing middle aged Marco on the Old Man Marco show.

[@quoror747]

Starcraft 2 wings of liberty theme should definitely be in your rotation to show to these guys.

[@tentaclefunk]

I popped off so damn hard for the Gravity Rush soundtrack!!!!

[@sciencepluspotato1294]

I think something that needs to be added, when you present The Promised Consort, is how broken the world is. The lands between, and the lands of shadow by extension, are a broken world. They're a place of conflict, of struggle between great powers, of tragedy, of wonder, of horror, of greatness and of depravity. And the music reflects it, from the funeral march of Starscourge Radahn's theme, the cosmic wonder of Astel's, the ambition of Radagon's and then the nostalgia of Elden Beast's. The music is varied, but like the world it lives in, it does not have any true heroic figure (theme). And that's why, in my opinion, that Promised Consort's theme (especially the second half) is liked so much by those who played the game. Because for the first time, maybe for the entire soulsborne series, the music doesn't just tell a tale of conflict; but one of heroic triumph, of hope.

[@martymarsy]

Best outro I've ever seen hehehe

[@maszlagma]

I love these series! Would love to see other Witcher 3 music and Frostpunk music! They are both partly by the same composer.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

I'm sad Gravity Rush is over.

[@tundralwhisper7345]

A trio of magnificent beards, truly.

[@trevornesbitt8092]

This is such a cool concept and yet it bums me out that of the three episodes so far, I don’t know much of the music myself. I’d love to hear these guys thoughts on the big gun games like GoW, Assassins creed, uncharted, horizon, Detroit, gears of war, ratchet and clank, the last of us, devil may cry, doom…there’s so many insane and incredible tracks in these games, I need episode 4 to be a mainstream dump!

[@Shythalia]

This is basically a podcast at this point. haha

[@nightmare_1337]

Thinking of Doom Eternal one unique feature of video game music is that it can loop or jump to the next section rather seamlessly whenever it is required. Of course this is lost outside the game.

[@BAQ4444]

Im surprised Marco hasnt introduced anybody to the Metaphor soundtracks for how great it it lol

[@meganart6666]

SPOILERS: The way I see it, Miquella's angelic voice mid combat is to reveal that he doesn't WANT to fight you, and is trying to convince you to stand aside for him to usher in an age of kindness (by force). The angelic voice, mind you, is his magical charm (you can read from Miquella's rune that he has the ability to charm others). He is giving you an opportunity to submit.

[@rudolphmiller]

I'd listen to a podcast of them yapping for 2 hours

[@blackkn1ght]

Make a podcast with them. I'd listent o every episode.

[@captaindanger13]

1:33:30 I USED TO HAVE THAT SAME US PRESIDENTS THING WHEN I WAS A KID!!! Idk where it went. We've moved a bunch since then, so I'm sure it got thrown away at some point.

[@cashordeals3672]

Bro you should have them react to one winged angel or zero it would be cool to see what such experienced people like them share there thoughts on song's like those

[@cashordeals3672]

I don't know if you go back and read comments but if you do another big song just came to me Fatalis mhw theme

[@trickycm1040]

More Witcher 3 please, even the Witcher 2 has such an underrated soundtrack

[@pechinca]

Hope The Rogue Prince of Persia soundtracks will be here someday, so cool and unic peace of music.

[@nuty8228]

game music need to repeating itself cause it"s a theme for that lo cation or event in the game and you don't know how much time each user in that situation.

[@SternVonAfrika]

no Ace Combat music. sadge

[@welxor1685]

Merci!

[@guitarhero640]

Hope we see silent hill 2 music in such videos in future

[@Rpgotoko]

I wonder if people that don't known much about video game music would be able to enjoy something like video game Orchestra. We'll at certain level yes but how much?

[@YankeesWin20]

No Ace Combat makes me sad but great video as usual regardless haha

[@Marmagon]

We need more hats

[@megabassx0]

terrible outro? you mean the best

[@solomchuk]

Percival Schuttenbach is a minor character in the Witcher books. I think the band chose the name cause they were fans 🙂

[@HalNordmann]

If you liked the Witcher track, I can definitely recommend a soundtrack from The Pathless.

[@쇼몰리에]

I'm enjoying your videos Marco, thank you for your hard work. If you don't mind, could you please listen to the OST for a boss called Thaemine from a game called Lost Ark? Videos of you reacting to the OST are very precious to me! Your fan in Korea.

[@CookiePi]

I liked Garth and Greg's piece. I imagined it could fit well in an IP like Ni No Kuni.

[@ChengiiChilln]

Chill dudes 🤙

[@StradeFinegan]

Hello there! :D

[@dmcpartlin17]

How can I recommend music for him to listen to? I would LOVE for him to react to Persona 3 Reload if he hasn't. There's so many bangers in it.

[@tfproyt5841]

I hope some day Marco you will let them listen to Scaramouche Polumnia Omnia and first part idr)

[@timothystamm3200]

You had both of them and no guilty gear?

[@kf1243]

When metaphor?

[@ibai9570]

where is the omnissiah?

[@perry-tm9z]

I know you only listen to video game ost, but you should listen to chromakopia by tyler the creator, its honestly one of the best albums ive heard in my life and i dont even care if you make a video on it but please just give it a listen

[@plarysa]

Big pog

[@Jigak09082]

It's "Gravity Rush", not "Galaxy Rush".

[@Pharoah_Nines]

Woooo! Gravity rush love!