Let’s have a talk about Genshin Impact & Wuthering Waves

[@MarcoMeatball]

Let me be clear. This is the last and only time I will be talking about this whole thing. It has been blown completely out of proportion. I cannot help you if you choose to NOT watch this video. I will reiterate that the Wuwa community has been just as crap as the GI/hoyo community on several occasions. This thumbnail situation is NOT why I left X - I left the platform because it sucks and this was one of like 8 different situations that made me confirm and realize that it was time to leave. I recognize that it is impossible for people to not speak badly about me at this size and i guess visibility on the channel. If you're still angry or agitated all I can say is consider that a game doesn't define you or your emotions and you owe it to yourself to take time to separate yourself from the creators that cause you to feel badly - if that includes me, I applaud and encourage you to do so. This has been 8 months coming and while I'm sorry it came to a head its about time we discuss it. I wish you the best!

[@tinymito]

The Internet is full of trolls, been on Internet since 1996 start of the everything (web developer). Just people use that Internet to speak freely with love, hates, trolls, attacks easily because they are just hiding their faces behind the screen.

[@MarcoMeatball]

@@tinymitoabsolutely. Such a shame! Oh well I guess 😂

[@Gargamel42007]

i hope you can just continue enjoying what you like most in these games ( music!!), stay strong Marco

[@croen]

Tbh you're one of the most mature and objective CC out there. I'm happy for you making your stand and not succumbing to the toxic community. ❤

[@skyline2754]

​​@@MarcoMeatballjust ignore the hoyo's community, because all of those community's are toxic , And there are also many cases of the Hoyo community doxing and attacking streamers who play gacha games other than Hoyo games. that's was terrible 😔😢

[@blackwingBF]

Sorry that this happened to you. Do what you like, ignore the toxic ones. It might be hard, but that's just how the internet is, just remember that you still have normal players like us supporting you!

[@Origin_unkn0wn]

Came here to say just this. Take my like

[@Uhcip]

It's not just how the internet is. Culture wars, misinformation, harassment etc have only gotten many times worse than it used to be and its looking like its going to get more messy. Leaving X is wise for your mental health and its good to see all these big subreddits banning X and Meta content.

[@Mememan4512]

Those people are the main reason why nobody likes the game

[@shaami8622]

​@@Mememan4512i agree. i stayed mostly on youtube but my feed is littered with wuwa cc inability to not talk abt genshin and how bad it is which made me wanna push away wuwa. but i can only imagine what ppl hv to go through in x and reddit knowing how extremely toxic the genshin community is over there since ive never associated myself with those people. the games themselves were never a problem in the first place, its the people that surround these games that are causing trouble for everyone else. be it the tribalism or the drama farmers that fuel hatred towards each other for selfish gains.

[@Delwin_reis]

@@shaami8622 You have to see who is a real CC from Wuwa, and not just people who do drama, many there must have played Hoyo games and were already doing drama there, the Hoyo community is not holy because I have been in it for 3 years And in these 3 years and to this day, she hasn't improved much. I'm not going to say that Wuwa is holy and perfect, because the majority of people who talk shit come from Hoyo players, but I know very well that any open world game always has someone from Hoyo appear to say that "Genshin is better"" Genshin kills this game" and bla bla bla.

[@ewpiwang8385]

Hi Marco, cn gamer here. I initially knew you through some of your translated clips posted on bilibili. Since then I’ve started watching your yt videos/streams and really liked them. It’s heartbreaking to see that the gacha community toxicity is affecting you (thought that maybe there’s less toxic outside of cn, guess I was wrong lol). Many cn wuwa players who don’t have access to youtube also love your music analyses content and eagerly awaits translated clips so they could watch you appreciate all sorts of music. So please take care of yourself and know that there’s always people who support you!

[@MarcoMeatball]

hi thank you so much - the bilibili stuff really gutted me - really used to read stuff there. glad people are happy for wuwa content. I am too. and more genshin though I doubt it will be uploaded.

[@tastykimchiOFDOOM]

Different communities have members and cliques that are toxic in varying degrees and ways. At the same time, there's positivity these communities as well; you just have to know where to look. If you're a frog living in a well for too long, you'll eventually think that it is the entire world. Content creators will sometimes have negativity finding their way to them whether it was warranted or intentional. In my opinion, this was bound to happen sooner or later and it will eventually boil over when the same people don't get a reaction out of whoever they try and provoke and find the next pointless thing to be angry about.

[@darkdude1996ify]

Always remember that, especially on the internet, a lot of people are the worst version of themselves because there is no repercussions for acting that way. They lash out in anger because of some random reason that doesn't actually matter to anyone, not even to themselves, just because of a temporary emotion that usually fades as quickly as it came. Also remember, not everyone always voices or makes clear their satisfaction and appreciation, but if people are dissatisfied, they'll almost always voice it. If there is 10 people angry at you and 10 people praise you, rather than 10:10, the ratio is usually closer to 11:100.

[@invin_2940]

as a local Chinese myself, I engage in the en side of the community, and oh boy are they absolutely toxic (at least on twitter), so I've been wondering how it is for the cn side as well. Oh well I guess gacha game community are just all toxic.

[@zihangzhang2858]

@@MarcoMeatball This video is also translated and posted on Bilibili. Till now, most comments are supporting you and feel confused about those attacks to you. I had to admit there are some accounts on Bilibili are so called "HOYO Loyalist" or whatever words to call those mindless fan of HOYO and hate other gacha games. But trust me, they are definitely not the majority. I just hope you don't feel too disappointed about Bilibili platform and the chinese audience. Your Wuwa music, Arknights music (especially with Adam who's also really popular on bilibili) and other videos, won over 500k views. Believe in your contents and the way this channel is going on.

[@dhwi]

the fact that you are emotional shows the man you really are marco. in a world where man are being shut off after they show that they are emotional and you being open about that is something you should ask yourself: are you proud of yourself for that fact? coming from someone* who is also emotional but gets shun off for that, keep being emotional, it takes real guts and real power from within to be that. im proud of you.

[@MarcoMeatball]

thank you.

[@aceoffires1032]

I grow tired of this whole idea of men getting shut down for being emotional or thinking we should "control" our emotions, nah we need to let it out more, whether it be a passion of ours, or some venue of any kind, let men have moments of sadness, joy, fear, anger, etc. Openly we need to vent too! All in all, I agree with you OP!

[@veldinsparx]

@@aceoffires1032 It is a part of male oppression nobody really speaks about

[@Khn_2102]

​@@aceoffires1032 Fr, it's a weird stigma

[@dhwi]

@@aceoffires1032 we men are human first and before we are man. the fact that, for us man, we have to be a man first and human second is something that breaks me apart at times. anyone, regardless of their age, their cries are 100% valid because men’s mental is something that usually is overlooked or most of the times it goes unnoticed. im glad you think in a similar perspective. be proud of yourself as well.

[@georgieegames]

Oh man I am really sorry to hear that this has happened. That absolutely sucks and I think you have handled this really well. I think being true to yourself and making the content YOU want to make regardless of views is really important and you have so many people that enjoy the content you make - Gacha related or not. I think that people get way too defensive and protective of the Gacha space and I think that certain people in these communities just need to remember it is a game and trying to ruin or hate on someone over their opinion being different to yours is just a bit sad. I remember when I got hate because I said I didn't like the Camellya quest in WUWA, I got really scared from some of the comments I got, its genuinely the sad and scary side of being a cc. People come to a CC for their honest opinion but when they don't like it, they hate on them. But the important thing is to keep yourself safe and stay positive I hope you are doing well Marco!

[@woodywoodpacker9051]

Owh hi !

[@MarcoMeatball]

Hey georgie. Keep going ❤️ let me know if I can help in any way.

[@georgieegames]

@@MarcoMeatball Thanks mate! Same to you :)

[@pvmim10421]

Omg! My two most favorite CC! Love you both! ❤

[@georgieegames]

@@pvmim10421 awwwhh you are so nice thank you 😁💜

[@suritaibateer]

老兄，我是通过原神认识你的。你的原神音乐评价总是让我学到一些新的知识，很欣赏你，真的。 因为一些傻子的恶语相向，你也承受了不小的压力，替你感到痛心。 你只需做自己就好，那些声音终究会消失的。 我英文不好，还是用母语给你写吧，希望系统翻译能准确的翻译我的这些话😊

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thank you for writing in the way you feel comfortable ❤️

[@sumes]

The worst thing to happen to gacha games - or gaming as a whole - is this weird tribalism and the relentless competition among communities over which game is better or worse. The constant cycle of hate and toxicity whenever someone dares to express an opinion, whether positive or negative, it's exhausting. What happened to simply enjoying games for what they are, respecting differing opinions, and moving on if you disagree? Marco, your channel has never been about one game or the other. It's always been about celebrating music, about how it resonates with us, the emotions, and the stories it tells. You've brought attention to video game music in a way that's opened countless eyes to it's depth, significance, and emotional power. You've shown how rewarding it is to listen with intention and how much value music brings to the gaming experience. Even in this very comment section, people are missing the point. This constant need to pit communities against each other is exactly what led to this video. I wish more people would take a moment to reflect before jumping in with harsh words - it accomplishes nothing. Never let these voices of negativity discourage or distract you. You can never be completely neutral or objective when discussing something as deeply personal as art. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with comparing games, forming opinions, or having preferences, especially when presented thoughtfully and constructively, as you always do. Stay awesome, and keep doing what you do best!

[@MarcoMeatball]

thank you Sumes and for understanding what I was trying to say.

[@shutup1037]

Yeah I dont think this kind of thing happened to this scale pre genshin in gacha games

[@red2794]

​@@shutup1037Bro Battlefield and Cod is another example of this its been going on with almost every game community and its only got worse with time

[@shutup1037]

@ that's why I specifically saying gacha games. I doubt Battlefield and COD players use twitter as much as genshitters

[@rickmel-q7m]

as someone with no horse in the tribal wars, i think it's funny that people can't praise WW without bringing up genshin. like all the "(MMO) is better than WOW!" videos back in the day

[@starbot3018]

You did nothing wrong Marco. Just know that.

[@jujoduhduh]

hey twinsies pfp. yours is smiling.

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

Marco is but a example of a innocent victim who got devoured by this vortex of toxcity of the gacha ommunity

[@rhoem1353]

Yes you did nothing bad

[@davyp.3844]

+1 Kudo on the comment. Just keep doing what you like Marco, thats what I like about your content.

[@starbot3018]

@@jujoduhduh eyyyyyy

[@dafarangga8780]

May you always in good health, both your body and your mental. Please, don't stop to making Wuthering Waves content. Cause I really got the essence of Rinascita after saw your super cut when streaming the Rinascita's main quest. I do really enjoy the new region thanks to you expalain the music, thank you for all your effort

[@MarcoMeatball]

I won’t 😊

[@m4venus]

​@@MarcoMeatball You can do it, we always support you behind the scenes and enliven your stream❤️

[@doublevalentine5970]

i play both genshin and wuwa but at this point i cant take the drama with both communities shitting on each other. people i've subscribed to for nice tutorial and update videos end up showing me that they are actually drama cc's but you showed me differently so ill give you a sub

[@MarcoMeatball]

Ya I’m not a drama cc lol

[@demonchildrobin86]

Same problem. Drama on KZbin and twitch, I just started to play Wuwa recently and can't find anything not being exposed to drama

[@calethos]

I started with you for Genshin. I stayed for everything else. And now I'm a patreon member. Whatever the doorway was, the inside of the room was what made me stay. I'm pretty sure that the ones who have stuck can say the same.

[@MarcoMeatball]

i appreciate it so much.

[@shadowmeka.5205]

​@@MarcoMeatballyes sirrr

[@theodorandren6850]

Assholes will be assholes, I thinknmany of us stick around this channel cause its not vapid bullshit and mudslinging but honest to goodness music appreciation

[@KyHeartWill]

The reason I love this channel. No drama just chilling playing my favorite game and actually talking about the game music. I watch his Livestream. It's so peaceful.

[@theodorandren6850]

@KyHeartWill yes, and I feel I dont even need to love all the songs or styles of game or whatever marco plays or listens to I just appreciate the realness and obvious dedication to it.

[@thatwanavy566]

@@theodorandren6850 🤝

[@yudha3561]

You are 100% right, i just recently found this channel through the wuwa video, and i really like how he's explaining every music aspect that is in the video trailer or in game. It gives me a lot of new knowledge about music

[@Khn_2102]

I found his channel through FF14 OST

[@terrencetang6684]

So far marco is one of the best cc doing wuwa content without drama and enjoying its newest region and music, pls keep up your good work, and i hope kuro also provide more fantastic contents to all of us in the future

[@iwanomorgan6557]

I'll keep this brief since I already made a long comment in your previous vid. I feel sad for what you went through. I also felt that way, wanting to just enjoy what I want. I'm still glad you'll still make Genshin content in the future, but I will still support you for your music analysis and how much emotion each music can touch you. I'll never forget how I discovered you (your Childe Boss fight video) and how much I learned from you when it came to music, opera, etc. You're doing a great job and I love ya for it, sir Marco! Supporting you all the way!

[@Miritzun]

I know it's kinda late but I just recently found your channel and I absolutely love it! The way you appreciate music, small details, even the way I'll learn something new all the time made me watch more! I showed my older brother and even he was in awe since he too loves people who can appreciate music. Your enthusiasm and joy for the games as well is contagious! I'd find myself smiling and cheering as well which is honestly something I almost never do with playthroughs! As a WuWa player since day 1, m happy that someone as awesome as you is in the community! And although it may not be the best and have those toxic people who make everything worse, you make it more brighter -love from Nicaragua!

[@MarcoMeatball]

Never too late and hola!

[@a4arick106]

You're just so sweet Marco, been with you since the This is What You Are video 2 years ago, and will stay for more time to come ❤

[@MarcoMeatball]

I appreciate the support so much!

[@rorentin]

rare few good cc for wuwa, just wanting to chill and enjoy something from a game is what we need instead of pure drama

[@codei-b1263]

I don't even consider Marco as Wuwa CC, For me he's just game music enthusiast and when he stream wuwa or any game what I'd like to see is not the gacha but his reaction to the music and game environment.

[@habilpratamaid9009]

​​@@codei-b1263same, I want him to play WW because of the environment Kurogames gave in 2.0 because it was very surprising and I want to see how Marco reacts and guess what ? Marco did the expression I expected but the way he expressed it was beyond what I thought.

[@jasperhawn]

Thats why I stay away from Tectone channel. Every time I see his face even if its a channel reacting to his content is autoblock. Hopefully many will do the same. We can avoid community toxicity by autoblocking drama for a gaming community. We just want to enjoy the game.

[@bsnsn6021]

​@@jasperhawnI wanna know how to block the channel too. I really hate Tectone contents. Many things are so toxic 😂

[@qiannaxdd]

idk man, genshin community is just.. crazy, whoever talk good about wuwa they just shitting on you, mr pokke rate a 8.5 out of 10 to wuwa and his community was MAD, that video got so many dislikes

[@b-z4588]

Gacha and drama nowdays are like Bread and Butter, me as a player that plays Genshin and Wuwa. I'm so sorry to caught to this mess Marco

[@ShioKoori]

Preach it. I want to go for like 2 weeks without any gacha community blowing their lid.

[@_icey_otaku7451]

Been playing Genshin since the game came out and I just hate what the community has become, but in all honesty it’s always been the same and that’s why I don’t interact with it. It’s better to just enjoy the games however you want, these people need to talk to others in person cause they’ve lost their sense of communication.

[@RamoonaArt]

Same thing with you, also played since the game came out and i really miss those days when the fans just post Kaeya using his skill in the water and just meme content. I also played WuWa since it released but ultimately decided to stop in Rinascita because realistically i can only handle to focus on one game because i am also busy with college, and i went on with Genshin because i have more of a longer connection there. With that said however, i feel like every Gacha game goes through this and its sad to see that Wuwa when it comes to the fans are going to the exact same thing, and becomes as toxic as the one they criticized.

[@justsomeguy727]

​​@@RamoonaArtyou can still find plenty of meme content surrounding the game as well as fanart and all of those things. You just have to curate your content feed to be about that stuff. Im not saying the community ISNT toxic but you as an individual do have some control over what you do and don't see. My friend doesn't interact with any of the toxic side of these communities. She's always just sharing silly memes, fanart and stuff like .exe videos cause that's what she finds fun in these gacha communities. It's very possible to avoid the toxic side and just enjoy the chill side. I need more people to be like her.

[@YawningCircle]

@@RamoonaArt I don't think WuWa compares to Genshin's toxicity at all, yeah there are drama KZbinrs but compared to Genshin (who also has them, and to an even worse extent) they are incomparibly tame.

[@whatthehecktye]

Keep doing what you love Marco. I always enjoyed watching your videos because of the genuine passion and knowledge you share for music.

[@Wheathn]

>Maro walking into the Gacha game community >"That's hell you're walking into."

[@luminbruh]

I understood that reference. 😂😂

[@xulsyn8638]

Last stardust start playing*

[@muhamadfajriramadhan7134]

Fate moment

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

Sir, he did not even touched FGO yet LMFAOoo

[@CreatrixTiara]

So I'm doing an arts MBA (with the Global Leaders Institute) and a lot of our cohort has a background in some kind of classical music or opera. I shared your videos with my cohort and turns out one of them is friends with one of your interviewees! My focus in this MBA is around bringing video games and performing arts together (and Genshin is a significant part of that) so I'm sorry that the game has led to so much grief. But in general please be assured that a group of about 70 arts leaders from around the world was introduced to your work and have invested in the possibilities of video game music to expand to other artforms. You're making an impact!

[@MarcoMeatball]

what!?!?!?!?!? OMG.

[@geraldthegoose1685]

Its alrighr marco we will have our monster hunter February hang in there brother

[@LunarEdge7]

My wallet and mind may not agree to the pricing (waiting for a sale) but I can always look forward to Marco to highlight and make sense of why I love certain parts of every MH theme for free

[@MarcoMeatball]

@@geraldthegoose1685 this channel will forget gacha during wilds I can tell you that much

[@AnimeKing-xj2xl]

Be strong MarcoMeatball as always! Hope for the best.

[@hessianqrow7977]

Big respect for keeping to your principles and not selling out Marco 😊

[@MarcoMeatball]

I appreciate that!

[@richardsanjaya1426]

we who adore kuro because and came from PGR know that every small people who get interested in kuro games and PGR are always welcome. wether you are an active mihoyo enjoyers, ex mihoyo games enjoyers, or just came from random places. because we want kuro and our game to grow in some people, to reach to people so they know how awesome these games are and kuro games too. we know the fact that PGR fanbase may not even that close to half of the chinese players, but we still love the game. and me personally feel so happy when wuthering waves was accepted by so many people. some of us know the struggles kuro games faced back then, we know that PGR not that popular. that’s why we always appreciate even small amounts of people still wanting to try the game, both wuwa and PGR. so thank you for being a part of this community, Marco.

[@MarcoMeatball]

im happy to be a part of it as a fan myself.

[@sakutaro3musik486]

Sadly that's not True as a gay guy I know that the Witterung waves Community hates me and girls aswell we are treated like jokes and people in that Community always throw trash at us. The wuwa Community is the worste Community I ever encountered and I play League and hoyo Games aswell

[@Dr.Doof_in_SteinsGate]

@@sakutaro3musik486 I'm sorry to hear that, really. As a PGR fan myself, I don't accept these kind of behavior, neither does the PGR community. We don't claim them. We pride ourselves as being chill, but it is becoming dissapointing seeing people who claims to be a Kuro fan and act like degenerates.

[@realb1esky]

People lying on the internet used to be believable once upon a time. You have literally never even TOUCHED league or in fact ANY PvP game community if you think wuwa community is anywhere near as toxic as those games. And it has nothing to do with you (supposedly) being gay. You could be straightest white dude on the planet and you'll receive just as much toxicity as anyone else in league. Like what an absolute joke of comment. At least TRY to make your lie believable lol.

[@voilavoila196]

​@@sakutaro3musik486 ok you can't ne serious, you legit can't

[@WowTeh]

The thing is with these players that are a part of the gacha tribalism, the gacha they play is literally their life. They wake up, they start playing their game and they go to sleep and wake up the next day to repeat this. They don't do anything else, they LIVE for their game, and it's honestly sad. Think about the day that their favorite gacha game ends service, servers shutting down and no more updates... I can't imagine how many of them will fall into serious depression because of how they make their whole life around their one favorite gacha game- never doing anything else and suddenly all of that gets taken from them. They feel like they have to fight for their game to protect it like actual wild animals, it is sad and I don't think you can actually be reasonable to these kinds of people. I really like your content and I love hearing you talk about music (especially game music & genshin and wuthering waves music) I appreciate you standing up against these loud and aggresive people, please stay true to yourself and don't let anyone change these gaming experiences for you 🧡

[@WowTeh]

little note, im not english so sorry about the confusing grammar maybe, If it reads like im a little kid- im not, im old but just not english 😅

[@MarcoMeatball]

@@WowTeh i understood perfectly

[@Z-FishInMyBreakfast]

You didn’t have to call me out like this lol, problem for me is, I struggle so much with having the energy to socialize (even if I really want to have strong friendships with people my age) but I’m used to being left behind after just some weeks of getting to know someone. I think most people get bored of me because of my lack of energy. I don’t have many friends and I found out gachas are a good way of distracting myself for a whole day.

[@doedoel035]

I think your comment is well articulated, because I think this applies to me. I get heated whenever I see a criticism of WuWa because... It's all I have. It took time for me to differentiate between constructive criticism and empty criticism (people who say the negative without offering any feedbacks)

[@somebodyanonymous4608]

@@doedoel035 You could try and learn/study music? A hobby has to start from somewhere, and you're still on Marco's channel.

[@skylinetrading9498]

YOU are the reason i downloaded Wuthering Waves. i randomly saw your live stream on a random morning, ...and it was such a peaceful stream. you are great man!

[@JonastheFennekin27]

keep doing what you are doing man. I eventually tried to listen bits and pieces of any music i hear after you breaking down these music. You are great of what you are.

[@bannanobreadd]

This might be one of the most human, sincere and adult reactions to the Genshin community. Well done

[@Dranominator]

8:52 "Fuck genshin it's the worst game ever made" Haters gon take that out of context now

[@MarcoMeatball]

BRO NO lmao

[@yubinator7455]

"OMG, Kurobot confirmed"

[@SOCOM967]

and the statement came after just proves the point even further smh

[@geraldandrew4995]

Other cc :Clip the moment, make the tumbnail without context and it will make a drama... most people wont read / watch till the end to know the meaning

[@somebody7205]

​@geraldandrew4995 well someone already did. Thumbnail is all about genshin bad. I can't understand any side

[@darkadia6520]

Do what makes you happy.

[@frankzeas2709]

This one.

[@sebastiancollins01]

As someone who only casually watches you this was weird to come across. Have a good day y'all.

[@DeltaStrata]

Seconded! I'm just here to watch you react to music, sometimes to show music to other people. Seeing professional musicians go "oh wow this is really good" gives catharsis to the part of me that left my University's music program because it was too performance-focused and traditionalist to respect VG music.

[@Riptitde777]

gacha communities are really weird in general tbh, they need to chill out

[@pegasusu1094]

GACHA Communities are the worst when they are on social media due to anonymity. A bigger megaphone has been given to them, and it's really saddening any fandom tends to just become tribalist

[@skelebro9999]

Good day to you too!

[@Stuffers__]

I came here from your Warframe videos and was always so surprised at how you nailed the stories revolving around each piece of music with surprising accuracy. Been loving your content since and hope you recover from all the (frankly unreasonable) hate you've been getting. Also speaking of gacha games, you should check out Arknights: Endfield when it comes out 😈

[@MarcoMeatball]

I will 😈 also umbra main forever except for eventual steel path lmao

[@SchoneTier]

marco i'm so sorry that all of these happened to you, your channel is a rare safe space/comfort zone for me, truly, i appreciate and enjoy your knowledge, reaction and analysis about music/scores, please continue doing what you're happy with! ^ ^ thank you! (sorry eng isn't my first language ; ;)

[@MarcoMeatball]

I will keep at it for you!

[@sushimuncher282]

Your channel will always be a safespace for many like me. Long hours of work, come home, listen to you talk about and dissect video game music pieces that I myself enjoy - bound by nothing but passion and appreciation for the finer things in life. I'm glad you are able to get this off your chest. Keep doing what you do best, because there are a lot of people who appreciates what you appreciate. You are perhaps one of the few content creators that is able to bring light to the mass.

[@MarcoMeatball]

thank you. I do it for you all. (and me ofc)

[@Justsnp]

Thats why i’ve subscribed you. You dont be a drama channel, just talk about music and enjoy the game thats why i like yours. When i saw your previous video i said to myself “why i never saw this channel before, this’s a hidden gem” you such a good and sincere guy mr.Marco. You’re not deserve to attacked like this at all

[@nangirb1]

I found your channel because of ace combat music and i love how in depth your commentaries were. You're an Ace, Marco, I believe your passion for the artistic part of the game and the music is genuine. I understand how you feel, even in my own social media I purposely not talk about certain gacha games from certain dev/publisher because I knew that would trigger people in my social media and i just don't want to deal with the drama. I know some small cc's that are on the same circumstance, they are afraid to mention the truth or their mind because of such backlash could destroy their career. but you stood tall, Marco. You speak your opinion and insight and that what matters. Soar high, fellow Ace, o7

[@MarcoMeatball]

ac8 when :(

[@nangirb1]

@@MarcoMeatball lets just hope it doesnt take another 12 years to make hahaha...

[@FuriusKaze]

It's all good Marco at the end of the day, just continue being yourself and keep doing what you do best. There will always be people who take things out of context and amp it up to 100. Play what you want to play and listen to the music you want to and enjoy it to your hearts content, I know I have, been watching your videos the past years and I love learning about the deep dive from an experienced opera singer.

[@MarcoMeatball]

❤️❤️❤️

[@deatheater2891994]

Dude, I normally don't text or comment on youtube, but ive been a gamer my whole life, and i love music equally, and i love coming back to your channel to react your videos about music to try to feel the music again and its nuances that i might have missed while gaming. But this whole thing is saddening, and i wanna say that atleast myself know that this aint your fault, and do what you do. I will keep following your for your insights on music, and i urge all the people reading this to understand this.

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thanks brother ❤️

[@kokushiibou]

we on the gacha community should be embarrassed for allowing the actions of literal children to represent the entire community and portray us, the adults in the room, as just as emotionally unstable as they are. it’s a billion dollar company that puts pixels on a screen. you’re allowed to enjoy it, but this emotional instability has to stop. we have to separate ourselves from these children.

[@nguyenquanghung2344]

Gacha game originally an Adult game, where you have a Job and play a lil bit when you have free time to entertain after stressful (or maybe bored hours) of works, sometimes you spend money to get the thing you like. Genshin exposed this genre to kids, and with the way its work, no surprise you have a bunch of fateful little gamblers.

[@lazyvoid7107]

​@@nguyenquanghung2344Now Hoyo is in trouble now tho

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

I can see why Balatro has a age restriction, gacha games should also do this to avoid corrupting children's mind.

[@pyopyonyo3222]

Thing is, adults don't have time/don't care about going around writing angry post everywhere. We just quietly enjoy ourselves while there is a storm outside frankly, I had no idea existed. That whole Wuwa vs Genshin war is nonsensical... just play whatever you want. Competition should stay between companies not stirr up fanbases.

[@skelebro9999]

I don't think we can ever separate ourselves from those children because the games themselves are usually rated as 12+ or 16+ and that will always be the case because companies want the kids and teens to spend money on their game. The only way is to ignore those people, like how you ignore a crying child on a busy bus.

[@samy0shadow]

Do whatever makes you happy and comfort this is your channel, all support to you buddy, you make great content which made a lot of people happy about, so good luck wish you the best.

[@edmondpf2]

I'm sure you know this already Marco, but if you step out, you'd realize that those who are offended are literal CHILDREN. Giving them any piece of mind is just going to be a losing battle.

[@geraldthegoose1685]

No no no, here's the worst part a lot of them are legal adults with actual jobs which is shocking

[@a4arick106]

​@@geraldthegoose1685legal adults yes but most of the time the jobs would be nothing more than making content creation, shilling, and be a keyboard warrior for their beloved thing. Most likely they were being paid for it 💀

[@navox4658]

@@geraldthegoose1685 Someone that has a job doesn't have a time to rage about silly thing

[@WowTeh]

@@geraldthegoose1685 adults, probably. jobs? probably not. 😅

[@alsoniagaming]

Children? The people getting offended on behalf of people who literally couldnt care less is actually childish.

[@jeremyloldrup7997]

I honestly still dont get how people got actually angry over a simple thumbnail :/. I dont usually watch you content but i came over just to say that i at least feel you did nothing wrong and that the video you release was so chill and had several great points! I genuinely hope this doesnt affect your mental too much, you deserve better

[@MarcoMeatball]

🙏❤️

[@SMCSwag]

You are one of a kind for me Marco in the KZbinr space, even if you didn’t review any music from Gacha games, your personality and in depth analysis for other video game ost makes me come back for more. Your credibility, mindfulness and what you have contributed to the platform and other mediums defines your success today.

[@juanmacaspac8113]

I also believe you where just caught on the crossfire, since a lot of other gacha CC keeps stirring the pot making these already rabid people more rabid... Glad to hear you're still planning to do more of you're usual stuff!

[@MarcoMeatball]

im realizing that.

[@svandisaisling5098]

@@MarcoMeatball I agree, you got caught in a battle that is being fueled by drama content creators. I've already seen several people publish videos with your face on thumbnails while disparaging "hoyoshills".

[@MarcoMeatball]

@@svandisaisling5098 ya that’s a shame

[@damb1858]

I often pride myself in maintaining a morally & sensible compass. Guess that means its time to wipe all the gacha CCs from my subscriptions farewell to pokke box2 tectone braxophone fob & whoever else fits the description

[@apar1094]

This is pretty much true. There was way too much drama and internal strife amongst the CCs back then and they just let their loyalists loose to drag as many people as they can into the shitshow

[@mogman389]

Heard that you deactivated your Twitter yesterday because of the whole ordeal. Glad that you're okay and still uploading vids. People can get defensive over such small things sometimes, and there's no way to please them without angering someone else. I don't really vibe with WuWa, but I'm not gonna go and hate someone that likes it. People like different things, and sometimes people like something that you don't, fact of life. Be safe, dude. Your content are the light that motivates me these days, and it'll be a shame to see it gone.

[@MarcoMeatball]

thanks dude - thanks dude. really! :)

[@shadowmeka.5205]

​@@MarcoMeatballme too as well i love your content man you made me appreciate music more and more

[@PixLSteam]

I was gonna write a comment but you already said everything I wanted to say :) On another note, I'm glad a lot of people are moving away from Twitter. It wasn't particularly nice even before a certain someone took over but now it's gone absolutely done the drain. I just hope the people and companies I care about follow suit so I don't have to interact with that platform ever again.

[@thatwanavy566]

@@mogman389 honestly I stick there because of the art side, but yeah...a flock of angry birds over there can be unbearable for sure

[@fierytigergaming8112]

@@thatwanavy566 I'm annoyed there are people as toxic on both sides - even though I haven't played Genshin in AGES, I was called a "Hoyoshill" just for pointing out that this is pointless

[@miliocco]

I'm from the GI community, I still play because of the music, the art, and because I want to see the story through. Not exactly a fan of that thumbnail but it didn't bother me either, and honestly now that I know it was kind of an expression of those feelings, I appreciate what it was about now. It's just a game. Real people being treated badly for no good reason is an actual legitimate reason to get upset. Not things like a video game or fictional characters. I love this channel. I love how much I've learned about music and about other cultural things. This has been an amazing space to keep returning to. Just my little opinion, but Marco deserves appreciation and respect for that, not hate over dumb things.

[@hagendiszero]

Like it or not as long you play Hoyo games will be hated..

[@miliocco]

@@hagendiszero yup. Been on the receiving end of a lot of that not just from kurobots but hoyobots too. Personally Idc though. Have had to deal with a lot worse irl. Angry people online can waste all the time they want on raging at me. Sometimes even bait them into continuing to waste their time.

[@cinnamonboy4584]

I get you man, the only difference is that i just can't bring myself to play genshin anymore. Besides feeling my own culture disrespected by the way they handled Natlan (and many others), it just feels stale and clunky... the lore and music is great, but the story is just... meh, not inmersive in the slightest just like marco says... it's ok if you like playing it tho, don't get me wrong, the only issue i have with the community are the people that just keep licking hoyo's boots for no reason and cheering for the bare minimum...

[@Dreamer-MS]

I came back to GI 2 weeks ago just to make myself feel like qualified for commenting on it and left again. I don’t think people hate players of GI because of the game is bad but what its community had done to many other gacha games communities. There are just too many wars started by that community. And you can’t expect others to sit back and take it, fight back is expected. So if u still love GI, that’s really unfortunate cuz your voice is nothing in that huge player base, and good luck man.

[@cinnamonboy4584]

@Dreamer-MS exactly

[@nyankyun]

Hi Marco, I always appreciated your incredible musical knowledge and talent. I never understood why people became toxic over others opinions, when it came to games or other fandoms. Much less so of 'emotions', it was really refreshing to see you thoroughly enjoy and discover something. Your earliest genshin & arknights video reactions really helped me during a dark time in the pandemic (thank you so much). I would have been happy to just see others on the screen liking the things I liked. Perhaps because I am emotional too. Regardless, if you continue to play a certain game or not, I'll keep watching to see you enjoy a new music piece or introduce us to something we've never heard before. Thanks for being honest and sharing how you've been feeling. Will be here to enjoy video game music whatever you choose to listen!

[@MarcoMeatball]

❤️❤️

[@redguard1607]

You ARE sincere, you ARE you, and I'm SO glad you have kept your head amidst people who, frankly, don't touch grass and whose main purpose in life is tearing others down and getting upset over a VIDEO GAME. I have loved your passion for music, and I watch your channel to hear YOU give your own professional opinion, which has nothing to do with the games themselves. Thank you for being such a bright star amidst a sea of terminal online crabs in a bucket. Keep it up, champ!

[@sevenkittens5112]

There is so much music that I have discovered and learned to appreciate through your channel, so thank you so much for doing what you do!

[@MarcoMeatball]

thats what im here for!

[@Naer__]

I’ve been mass unsubscribing and not recommending channels with thumbnails that feed into the Kuro x Hoyo drama. Not sure why people can’t just do that over attacking creators. Just ignore and move on, don’t let it affect you✌️

[@id10terror15]

I’m so sick of it myself. I’ve played Genshin long enough that I know who to watch for non-ragey Genshin stuff, but I’ve been struggling to find the same for Wuwa (at least CCs I personally vibe with). It feels like every channel that pops up with content about either game atm is just drama about some drama within the game or between communities.

[@Naer__]

@ 100% When you play and enjoy both games, it feels like creators are trying to convince you to either hate your own game or hate the other. I’m sure there are Wuwa creators out there that don’t participate in drama farming, it’s just drowned out by all the nonsense. Hoping as more people disengage from the drama, more views are funnelled towards those sorts of creators of both games.

[@nidaduque5434]

Gracias por tus vídeos de análisis de música Recuerda que muchos siempre estaremos aquí para apoyarte 😊

[@MarcoMeatball]

yo lo sabe. muchisimas gracias.

[@gearsxwarrior]

i love the way you handled this video. For me, i started watching you a couple months after you started on youtube and it was such an interesting and refreshing take on how i seen videogames. when you started doing genshin and starrail content, i was like "cool" but i dont engage with those games bc of the communities associated with them. your channel for me has always been about the music and always will be about music across games for me. keep being honest and keep being true, thats what ive always seen and what ive appreciated form your channel.

[@MarcoMeatball]

❤️ thank you for being here so long

[@YatanoHakuya]

I'm new to this channel but I look forward to learning about music from you. You can't make music without feeling

[@sergeykirichenko8965]

Just a comment to support you and common sense. You should know that all normal people understand you and what you are talking about perfectly, regardless of what games they play. And your video was great and perfectly revealed its topic. So keep up the good work, strong nerves and good luck in the future.

[@arzr_er]

No one should apologize for being passionate. Passion is the true window to the soul, you my friend have a loth of both, and these people throwing a tantrum have none of either. Keep doing your thing, not too excited for MHWilds, but excited to see your reactions to the soundtrack nonetheless!

[@JG-ow7nk]

Genshin is one of the only gaming communities I have been a part of where I felt the need to distance myself from it as far as possible. There's just something about the toxic minority that overshadows everything good about the community to create an unenjoyable space. I feel like so many people eventually goes through this when they get involved with Genshin and it's just mind-boggling how it never seems to self-correct itself. I have a lot of respect for you Marco, and even more so seeing you address this in such a fair and honest way that I probably wouldn't be able to do. Keep doing what you love and that passion will attract an audience that is here for you and not the game.

[@MarcoMeatball]

thank you

[@lkd338]

Relatable. I didn't interact with the fandom for 8 months before I found a cosy place where I could hang out with a small group of like-minded people. The fandom as a whole scares me a little lol

[@baron7562]

I've had the exact opposite experience personally. Genshin content and community is usually busy with their own game and there isnt much comparison going on. its just people discussing story, characters, memes, art etc. But whenever I tried to engage with WuWa content or community its always about how WuWa is destroying other gacha games, devs listened, genshin could never etc etc. Its just endless comparison and circle jerk about glazing WuWa. Very little discussion about the game itself. Its one of the main reasons I stopped playing WuWa. Too much toxic positivity. HSR on the other hand is filled with meta tryhards who are obsessed with minmaxing and telling people that they will brick their account if they pull x character. Only sane community right now is ZZZ tbh. They are just so busy gooning that they have no time for Drama xD

[@skelebro9999]

Same. I only watch MurderofBirds these days. His community is the most chill one without a doubt and I feel sane being there.

[@skelebro9999]

@@baron7562 Same. I am only following one Genshin creator and sometimes watch 2-4 ZZZ creators. I don't think you should stop playing a game just because of the community/fandom. It's just a video game, and you can always choose not to interact with the fans of said game, which is what I did. I haven't used Discord and Reddit in a month and have never been happier enjoying these games in my own pace and peace.

[@heyfrank1]

this is so sad to hear :( I didnt know about all this stuff, im glad youre ok 😢

[@dandyshark6094]

i just see this and very sorry to hear this. Nowdays gacha especially big one fill with many people outside of gacha space and especially toxic one. and u could call me racist but most of drama come from the western side for me because after i block their channel its so peaceful , same as twitter or other social media. my advice is try not engage much with community, do what u love, sharing with someone close or your own community. Truly its sad, but lets move on and i hope u have a great day and future!!

[@nicenrique6493]

Just found your playthrough of WUWA 2.0. Loved your reaction to all the music in the game! Keep it up bro

[@MarcoMeatball]

thank you!

[@Ubolg]

My ears are deaf to any drama, I just hope to hear your voice in some new EP(Arknights EP especially) and hear you opinion about music. This situation happened with dozens of content creators, I think everyone should just ignore vocal minorities. World would be better place if we found a way to free people from their resentment, but I think we just cant.

[@termorey]

Ты делаешь хорошие вещи, не обращай внимание. Благодаря тебе многие люди начинают любить и узнавать музыку. Просто продолжай делать то что тебе нравится. Если слушать всех и каждого, то все будут недовольны. Но спасибо что ты дал подробности и контекст произошедшего You do good things, don't pay attention. Thanks to you, many people are beginning to love and recognize music. Just keep doing what you like. If you listen to everyone, everyone will be unhappy. But thank you for giving me the details and context of what happened

[@MarcoMeatball]

spasiba

[@Velociraptor929]

Hey Marco, I almost never comment on any platform, and I know I'm late to the table here (I doubt you'll see this), but I just wanted to extend my encouragement and support, and say that I agree with everything you said here. I know you don't need my input to keep doing what you're doing, and that's one of the many things that make you great, but I wanted to put in my two cents as someone who has some overlap with you. For context, this is from a college student who grew up loving music, loving video games, and then loving music even more. I'm a classical pianist and a music theory nerd and that's where most of my knowledge lies, so it's awesome to be able to hear from you the interpretational side of music (to cover what theory misses), and the vocal side of music (to cover what piano misses). I'm biased and say that voice and piano are the best instruments (in that order). I had no idea all of this was going on, and I'm very sorry to hear that the toxic sides of these communities jumped on you, and I'm proud of you for calling them out and sticking with your guns. I play both Genshin and Wuthering and love both games a lot (for overlapping and differing reasons), and I'm super glad to see you find things that you love, whatever it may be. I'll admit that I've fallen into the comparison trap myself - not in a toxic way, but in a way that makes me forget that games can just be evaluated individually. But either way I'm saddened that people get all up in arms over preferences and personal analysis, and I'm sorry that you've had to bear the brunt of so much of it. I actually found you through Genshin, but stayed for the music and for the Marco. I love the type of community you foster here and I'm glad you're fighting to keep it that way. Also, as a fellow very sensitive dude who has struggled to own that, it's great to see you be open about that and firm about that. I stayed and am staying with this channel because you're authentic and you're all about simply appreciating music and its power, and I'm glad to hear it affirmed that you're doing it for that reason too. As long as you're you, the people who stick with you will be the people you want to be around anyway. Keep doing whatever makes you happy and is YOU. Those are my two cents. Thanks for reading, whoever made it. And thanks for braving my repetitiveness and commas. Don't forget to listen to your heart and take care of yourselves, everyone. - some random young man

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thank you buddy

[@Eris_Greyrat]

Marco you genuinely seem like a awesome guy. I watched some of your content right before all this blew up. I hate this happened to you on either "side" of the community. Anyone can see you love music! Keep doing what your passionate about brother, every day!

[@UpwardTBC]

I love all your reactions to wuwa characters. Please don't give attention to haters which are like 3% of the people that watch your content I hope i can see more reacts for next wuwa content, I got to know you with your Carlotta reaction video

[@Guirko]

It's scary what the gacha genre does to some people... I suppose when a game is designed to demand so much of your time, money, and emotional attachment over such a long period of time, people desperately want to justify having made that investment... A mindset which can easily spiral into toxicity. And OH BOY, when it comes to toxicity, the gacha community certainly delivers in spades... Don't let people change you or bring you down Marco! Like you said, this is a nothing, and it really is. Wish you all the best ❤️

[@王征服]

Marco, you are an absolute gem and we love you no matter what the angry label-slingers and buzz word flingers toss your way. And hey, you are right, sometime we need a change of pace in our gaming line up, yeah? Sometimes after a week of Elden Ring I get a little tired and wanna go for some good ol' Civ VI. To me, you are a music guy, first and foremost. The fact that you have chosen to be the music guy for some of my fave games just happens to be a bonus. And even if you shift to games I'm not into, I'll still keep up with ya. Heel, you are the reason that I got into the "Frostpunk" games in the first place! All I'm saying is you are great no matter what others think, and we are here to cheer you on. *Non mollare! Continua a lottare! Sii forte.*

[@AvengeButterscotch]

YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG! you have done so much for the community and been really fair! I’m coming from saintotas video and the wuwa community welcomes you with open arms 🙏 let’s spread kindness people

[@Ithelldk]

you get a sub man. the amount of truth in this was insane and looking forward to ur future content

[@Soparandom]

I mean Wuthering Waves 2.X region will make you feel amazing as it represented some of your heritage and your criticism is fair. Most of the Wuthering Waves players are ex Genshin players so we know how you feel in some aspects

[@uwul8065]

oh wow u mean Ex genhsin Players think like that ? :)))

[@Notfatman]

​@@uwul8065 i was one of them so yeah, Ex Genshin player do know or feel about his situations at some point

[@Notfatman]

​@@uwul8065 i was one of them so yeah, Ex Genshin player do know or feel about his situations at some point

[@yes-gn4kn]

@@uwul8065 i know most of them do, i am one of them and the current heading they're going, its only gonna be downhill from now on

[@NikLoveGaming]

​@@uwul8065 I played PGR before but yes there no other open world gacha than Genshin...so as ex - genshin player myself I believe most players already change direction include who leave the game. Some people just have really being too attached 😅, most of us yes we also feel attached to some degree but to deny flaws of the game is absurd

[@muffipc7756]

I absolutely feel u Marco. I have the same feeling with u around a few months ago. The negativity, the criticism, and the drama happening, drove me to the worst feeling of playing gacha games of all time. I started to shift back playing rhythm games and I found it a lot more fun and enjoyable. Arcaea had been such a blast playing and I just didn’t care about the genre of gacha anymore. The problem wasn’t about the game itself, I just couldn’t handle the hate and intensity from the gacha community. I also did the same thing as u about deleting X. It was a great move to me, as I started to care less about the drama and focus more on what I actually enjoy.

[@ninistar9020]

tbh I started watching your videos when you reacted to Narwhal from PGR. I love it when you construct the music and explain something I'm not familiar with so I want to say is I truly support you no matter what you do.

[@tazercube7209]

As someone who plays both wuwa and genshin, the thumbnail didn't trigger me, but I can understand why that thumbnail triggered some. Its because of the other gacha CCs that make dozens of videos each week to call "genshin bad, wuwa better". They use very similar thumbnails. It can get tiring to see videos calling a game you like trash everywhere. Maybe the people who visited your channel for cool analyses of music saw that thumbnail and assumed you had become one of "those" CCs (dw, you haven't lmao). That thumbnail was pretty well made though. Also I can't wait for silksong's release and the ost. I have high hopes seeing how good hollow knight's ost was. I hope you'll react to it when it comes out in 2078

[@sidharthcraft2303]

that's a pretty good take. I only play wuwa and whenever I try to find wuwa content on yt, 85% of what I see is people hating on other gacha games, tectone, saintontas, etc. While I love wuwa, the content I see online makes me not want to like it. Anyways, I enjoyed your wuwa stream marco. I hope you'll do more for the upcoming character trailers and patches!

[@LyaHanz]

this is exactly what i personally experience. its hard to find a good wuwa cc when there are so many that drama farming. i actively play and love genshin. i also casually plays wuwa. but opening yt and sometimes want to watch more genshin content these wuwa cc drama farming flooding the feed instead. lowkey make me dislike the game and their community. genshin fandom is no better but lets be real, wuwa community has come down to similar level of toxicity to genshin's. not to mention they also shit on hsr and spamming in zzz livestream. it genuinely sucks

[@Ty_Jac]

@@LyaHanz Not shocking. Most people that move to wuwa are just disgruntled ex-genshin players. That or PGR players just wanting to dip into another kuro game so the toxicity is just a by product of wuwa having similarities with GI. The hoyo gacha space is pretty wild but its all the CCs that make the space even more annoying to be in when they constantly focus on the hate they get when its all easy to ignore and then go on to blame the players or other CCs. Like I'm sure there are people that say things about Marco in other communities as well but he just ignores them. It just so happens that the hoyo/wuwa community is extremely large enough to make a dent even if those annoying individuals are a vocal minority. People are catching on to the unnecessary toxicity of the hoyo gacha space so guys like GlaiveKiyo, Tectone, etc are going to inevitably lose relevancy since there rly isn't much real content to be had from gacha games to begin with apart from guides.

[@Altair-161]

@@VerrGoldett9ah the kurobot who was spamming mid under lanyan’s videos. Your insecurity is nice. Keep going!

[@nocluewhatimdoing.]

no one should get this level of hate for saying they dislike your favourite game

[@RaviatSN]

I'm sorry this happened to you. I discovered you from the Reverse 1999 video, and I'm so happy I did. I'm still patiently waiting for your reaction to the other R1999 songs or your new video because I like your voice and the way you care about even a small detail. Please don't stop doing what you love because of toxic people. Eng is not my first language so I'm sorry if it's hard to understand what I'm trying to say😭

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thanks for being here, and no worries on the English.

[@kaiipop4762]

Thank you for speaking out on this and sorry that the situation got blown out of proportion ❤

[@GingerChic87]

I completely forgot that Elden Ring was why I started watching you. I also forgot how happy I was to see you look at Genshin’s music. To get a bit personal, I’m quitting Genshin after lantern rite this year and I already quit HSR 2 weeks before the 3.0 update. But I’m also playing Wuwa again full time for the reason you brought up early in the video. The games are headed in different directions and this last month has been my “layover”. And I know I’m not alone. There are at least 2 million “hoyo refugees” getting on the wuwa train with 2.0. And TBH seeing your comment on the Roccia trailer, a trailer that finally let all the emotion I had pent up about this whole situation be let go, it made me happy again. Like when I saw you first react to Genshin.

[@MarcoMeatball]

Aw ❤️

[@Cyriusization]

the hing is Wuwa isnt a game you can "main" rly, its a absolutely good game with great art music and combat, but i went back to in on 2.0 (after i quit on finishign 1.0 before) and i literally completed everything from 1.1-2.0 in less then a week (without skipping story btw) and have nothing more to do there now, so im back to waiting for 3.0 now to get another week of playtime.^^

[@tumanater22]

Man I hope you read this, I no joke JUST found your channel like a day or two ago and was watching all your Genshin reactions and loved seeing your passion and insight into the games music, I noticed that Genshin reactions were few and farther between recently, but I figured it was because you were spreading out. I hope you continue your Genshin reactions and just know that me and I'm sure many others appreciate your contribution to the community and commitment to sincerity.

[@MarcoMeatball]

Hey thank you I’m glad you’re enjoying them ❤❤

[@Duskyleo]

The haters don't deserve your apology and you don't need to apologize for things you never did. But great video Marco! Love your musical analysis and your channel is a gem and very sincere.

[@booplesnoot2489]

I'm so glad I found your channel. You exhibit everything I look for in a creator. Honesty, commitment, a passion for your work and transparency. It's a shame that there are so many people incapable of just being kind and moving on. I can only hope that they give up with time and feel so bad that you have to endure that. Those people diminish my love for the games just knowing I will get compared to them and their need for attention. Best wishes

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thank you

[@Anadarksoul1701]

Yeah this has been a problem for a while now for the big Gacha game communities as of late. (More so Genshin and HSR). You did nothing wrong Marco, this just normal for these vocal minority part of the community to just go hunting for anyone who even makes the small negative remark against there games. It shouldn't be normal, but it has been. You are a good man and hoping for the best for you in the future.

[@TheMakushimirian]

I dont mean to start a war here, i just dont like this targetting of Hoyo communities all the time (implied with you saying "more so genshin and hsr"). As a player of e.g. GI, Wuwa, AG, i have to say i find all games to have their own charms and communities to be equally shit. But i have to say i literally never see any wuwa content be done without a direct slam against hoyo, theres always some comments that they throw to spite genshin etc. So i can understand this zealous defending (though not even remotely justified). This is all to say both communities online presence feeds off of attacking each other and its not gonna go away any time soon.

[@Exel3nce]

feel like hsr is relativly mild and friendly but what do i know

[@andreasricky5228]

Just ignore the toxic fandom,do what you like and always bring the great content,love all your video marco

[@srdragan317]

didn't even notice this Drama all i want is my meat ball Singer Do what he like and i will support as much as i can

[@UncrownedSaltKing]

I wholeheartedly support you, Marco, I found your channel through Re:link videos and really like the insight you give us.

[@MarcoMeatball]

Underrated game

[@icefire2941]

I’m a Genshin fan, it’s my favorite game, and it has some of my favorite music in gaming. The “fans” that say and do this stuff to you are idiots, getting serious and riled up over something so insignificant. Ever since your La Signora video I’ve been interested in all of your content, and I’ve actually learned a lot and gained more interest towards music because of you. So thank you Marco, and keep doing what you’re doing 👍

[@MarcoMeatball]

❤️🙏😭

[@grubfriend]

I recently lost my mum, too, and without going too deep into what happened for me, you're completely right in how it changes you. I've had to relearn a lot about self care, how I process my own grief, and how to grow. It's a lot about learning to tackle the hard stuff, but it doesn't stop the feeling of being vulnerable, if ever. You should never apologise for being a sensitive person, because I am too - and I think it says a lot about you that this has affected you so much. I'm an Arknights fan who genuinely loves your content (even outside of the AK vids- I can't believe you covered the Legend of Spyro at one point too) but even I've had to cut myself away from the fandoms of games I'm so thorougly invested in because of toxiticity. I hope your video gets across the way you just want to embrace music and the way it's made to make you feel, because I think a lot of these people have a lot to learn too. (Sorry if this comment isn't super well-worded, I don't know how to word my thoughts very well.)

[@MarcoMeatball]

i really appreciate it and im so immensely sorry for your loss.

[@grubfriend]

@MarcoMeatball thank you! That goes both ways, I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and I hope your family is doing well ❤️

[@straightphobia]

This was heartbreaking to watch

[@MarcoMeatball]

I know - I hadn’t showered

[@DrathianX]

​@MarcoMeatball it happens to the worst of us 😢

[@kroposman2302]

​@@DrathianXhappens to the best of us, too

[@Monkeybros_]

You're great, man. Found you from FromSoft around the Elden Ring release, which was about the same time one of my friends was trying to get me to play Genshin. I totally get what you mean when you talk about then negative stigma around Gacha as a whole, because I was one of those who hated them without ever playing them (Now I play them and still hate them lmao). Point is I found your Signora video, and cover (fucking amazing btw), and it convinced me to give it a go cause I'm a music nerd as well and I thought the osts were fire. Year and a half later I still occasionally play Genshin and sometimes Wuwa, so there's that. The sheer amount of drama I've seen in this whole Hoyo/Gacha sphere in the just over a year I've been in it is honestly astounding to me, so I could only assume what it's been like for people like you who have been in it much longer. It's nice to have a channel that both shares my interests and sometimes covers these gacha games without every video being controversy related. My favourite thing you said was literally just: 'This is a nothing'. Because you're right. A 1280x720 thumbnail on KZbin is nothing. If people are taking something so inconsequential as something so deeply personal, that's on them. Looking forward to more of your content, Marco.

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thanks for being here so long ❤️

[@ordinarymizu]

I'm so sorry you were treated this way for so long. Your anger and frustration is completely valid, and hope you can continue to find enjoyment in what you do! You got my support friend

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thank you friend I appreciate you

[@Schwoops269]

I'm really glad you decided to talk about this because it's been really bothering me how toxic and extreme the Gacha community (and also a big part of society in general) has become lately. So many people just see black and white and just jump on the first opportunity to stir hate and make themselves feel superior. And I've got to be honest, it was also kinda affecting my enjoyment of some of those games in the past. It just makes you feel bad when you're genuinely enjoying something and then people harass you for it and hate on it nonstop, just because they religiously try to make their own game seem like the right one to play (and I've noticed this in every single game's community btw.) What many people fail to realize is that you're not automatically taking a side by playing and liking a specific game, in the end it all comes down to personal preference. And I don't know about others but for me, there is always one game that I enjoy more than the others for a certain period of time, but it always changes and it doesn't mean that I hate or can't still like the others. Now, Genshin has and always will have a special place in my heart. It's been my first and most played gacha, I have really grown attached to its world, lore, characters and feel over the time. But I'm not blind, I'm aware about its flaws and shortcomings. While I may haven't enjoyed Natlan as much as other regions and I am slightly concerned for its direction going forward, I still appreciate what is has given me and still does. As to WuWa, I played on release and had a great time for a few weeks (admittedly partly due to my insane luck in the gacha) but even so I couldn't really immerse myself or fall in love with the world and its characters like in Genshin (which in no way means that its bad or worse than others). Its probably just because I personally like fantasy more than Sci-Fi/Modern settings. Still, WuWa kept improving after each new version and I've got to be honest, 2.0 and Rinascita really knocked it out of the park for me. It's absolutely amazing! From the italian theme - to the story and its incredible cinematography - to the awesome new world, music and characters, I think I'm truly in love with it now. It has successfully gone from just being a better and prettier Genshin to being its own game now and I think this is a massive win for us all! Anyways, I just hope people can appreciate the game they choose to play for what it is without feeling the need to validate their decision by looking down and spreading hate about other games, because in the end videogame are supposed to be fun and give us a little temporary escape from the problems of the real world. Much love to you Marco, I hope that you continue to listen and share your thoughts on the music from those games in the future! Maybe it can be like in the beginning where you just appreciate the music without any context or outside bias and bring to us closer the magic of music 🎶 🪄❤

[@123newjersey3]

Hey Marco, heard about the nonsense going on on twitter, and just wanted to say i hope you are alright, twitter is full of people who attach their self worth to their interests. There are many immature people who are unable to separate works of fiction from their real personal lives, and as an extension, other people. Hope you don't take any of it to heart, and understand this is very much NOT a you problem. Keep making banger thumbnails and content.

[@KebinKaslana10]

True, i am fully convinced Twitter is just the digital equivalent of hell. And i fully recommend people to stay miles away drom it.

[@MrEsphoenix]

ZZZ was my first gotcha game (tempted to try wuthering waves as I've heard good things about it). I've always skipped over them because of their aggressive monetisation and fantast themes that have never really appealed to me, but the quality of the animations and the interesting lore drew me into ZZZ, plus the fact I really found out about it right before the launch, so I don't feel there's a tonne of catching up to do lol. Overall my experience has been really good. I should start off by saying i've had great fun with the game without spending more than a normal game would cost to purchase, and overall the part of the community I've interacted with have been very fun and positive, but two things really took my back with the game and community. How aggressive the monetisation is, and how toxic the community can be over such minor things. Now I'm no stranger to both, I play War Thunder and Star Citizen which are both known for extreme monetisation and toxicity surrounding the community, but they're both dwarfed by the Gotcha genre. People are spending thousands on characters (which may be causing a lot of the issue), and people are being attacked for asking simple things like how to improve, or talking about characters. Hell, recently there's been a storm on twitter because they showed a new character hanging out with the male protagonist which is apparently a big no no in gotcha games. It's just on another level compared to any other game I've played and it's a shame really as it leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I'm sorry this has happened, as you've always seemed a really standup guy. I hope these people realise that shit like this only harms the product they love.

[@cat-brothers-together]

I really enjoy your Wuwa playthroughs👍 Don't let these people stop you from playing what you want.

[@zulzineloso7531]

Nah marco youre good for what you do. Being emotional is a good thing you dont have to be made of stone the sole fact that you can say a story by its music is amazing cheers from CostaRica

[@AyumuTheTamer]

Yeah, I actually think that WuWa needed this update in order to stand on its own 2 feet. Because now I can really appreciate this game for its own merits… rather than just being a Genshin copy. I also love Genshin… but it’s because it gives me the same feelings I would get when I was a kid playing Spyro and donkey Kong 64. I also did love that some content creators would focus a lot on the lore which has always been my favorite type of content in KZbin for all of the Franchises I follow. That being said, you’ve always focused your content around the music of video games. I was suspecting that you would love the 2.0 WuWa update given how much that area of the game has improved. I really do like your perspective on the music video game music… specially from some of your Genshin, Sonic and Pokemon videos. Keep up the good work and have fun enjoying the games you love playing. 😊

[@zeru5195]

Sorry you went through that, and honestly, getting off social media is almost always for the best imo. There are loud vocal minorities in the gacha space who have gotten up in arms over the recent drama baiting in social media and from other CC, and sadly, you may have gotten dragged into it. I enjoy your content for you, and i got into this channel from your hi3 music reactions, but i am not going to get up in arms because you cover it less or prefer other games.

[@crazykim]

I really like WuWa, but during it's launch and for months afterward the community just kept being the single most inflammatory gaming community, or heck maybe even group of people at all I've ever seen by a wide margin, and I realized why.. (More inflammatory stuff that is both me venting frustrations and observations ahead, proceed at your own risk. This goes for everyone.) It's because a disproportionate amount of it's vocal "fans" were comprised of the absolute worst people the Hoyo communities have to offer, migrating en masse to the "Genshin killer". People upset with Hoyo (valid), burnt out by Hoyo(valid), upset with the community for [insert any of the many stupid Hoyo community things] (valid), engaging in the gacha drama channels fueled by just the most awful content creators (not valid (and i dont mean Marco ofc)), perpetuating all the things they say the dislike about Hoyo fans and excusing everything Kuro does that they hate Hoyo for doing (_not valid_). Honestly I'd have thought the community would have become better by now, but just a couple of days ago while I was looking for some information about some critiques people have had about 3.0 in HSR I accidentally happened into one of those content creators videos and by god the comment section was something else, most of it nonsense and whining, with a few sprinkles of some legit criticism, and then you open reply's and notice that these people realized they weren't being dumb enough and start spewing more nonsense. Since then I've gotten a lot of recommendations from that channel and it's all just rage baiting and hating on Hoyo under the guise of being critical. And I just noticed there's literally a video about this video that is more rage baiting from that channel in my recommendations while writing this lol. Algorithms are a joke. The most egregious things for me with this is that I am adamantly critical of Hoyo, I went about the this whole thing early speaking of WuWa and Genshin as equals to be diplomatic and unbiased, but there can only be Tribalism. To the extreme Hoyo fans I'm a hater, a black knight, to WuWa fans I'm a Hoyo shill. I guess the problem with trying to stay rational and close to the fence is that for people who's traveled far far away from it, it looks like I'm standing on the other side. Anyway that's my rant I decide to stop this here because I can continue for like a whole essay and I just realized I want to do other things.

[@anonymuzz5704]

Stay safe Marco! I've been watching your videos for maybe a year now since i started playing genshin.i love your genshin music reviews & still do till this day...i hope all those negative comments from the bad side of the fandom will not bring you down & stay strong,stay safe💪

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thank you, I appreciate your support!

[@grandamnevaldo2093]

I love you Macro we always support you. Take a break if you need, but do remember we Genshin players always welcome you back and appreciate whatever you do.❤

[@kuzukuzreia]

I'm sorry for your experience, these tribalism is really starting to become worse and worse, sadly its not only you that have been harassed and attacked for playing wuthering waves, even bigger CC like gigguk also got hit, and countless other smaller CC too, i'm very sad for this, people gatekeep what other people create and enjoy just because they dont want to see anything crumbling their emotional and financial invested game.

[@brambl3014]

Can i see where did Gigguk get hit? Saw his Wuwa VOD a lot recently

[@kuzukuzreia]

@brambl3014 my comment keep getting deleted, so just try kaza+hana, erase the plus on youtube

[@kuzukuzreia]

@brambl3014 i want to send it, but my comment keep getting deleted by youtube 🗿, tried 3 time with different approach, keep getting deleted

[@thetrickster23]

​@@brambl3014as far as i know, first time gigguk play wuwa there is a whole paragraph with each time stamp what this guy didn't like or hate, whole paragraph, is already delete anyway so i find it hilarious.