MARINA on 'Ancient Dreams in a Modern Land' and her songwriting process | In Conversation

MARINA joins NME In Conversation to discuss new album 'Ancient Dreams in a Modern Land', her songwriting process, the collaborations that didn't quite work out, and the important career decision she made to protect her mental health.
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[@ameliab9391]

Marina's best songs are those she wrote by herself, I can just tell when someone else was involved, she has a very particular lyrical presence.

[@ella.exe3]

Reason why the album love+fear feels so non authentical to me. I've been following her since 2010, on l+f the influence of her (now ex) boyfriend's music style is REALLY hard to miss

[@ameliab9391]

@@ella.exe3 YES! I hope now that she's done with Jack that won't happen again. I know she says that Electra Heart was the album she had the least control over, but it feels and sounds like L+F actually is the one who deserves that spot.

[@melisacaceres8740]

Omg yes, every single line on her verses are just so brilliant. No one can encapsulate social critique with introspection and self reflection the way she does.

[@queercomputer]

@@ella.exe3 mmmm I wouldn't agree. i think thematically, at least, that album still feels very reflective of marina's desire to address issues of humanity climate and nature

[@Heartcore90]

Quite frankly, it is a bit weird you guys have this purity complex over someone else's work. I saw Love and Fear live as well, and I must say, the album was very easy to listen to. Lyrics are super straight forward and just very down to earth. Whereas Froot took me 3 listens to adjust to sound/melody, understand what she says and focus on the lyrical content. Obviously you're not going to like every type of production of an artist's entire discography. Let's just leave the pointless comparisons behind us.

[@griffinjames4585]

She’s truly inspiring, she totally reframes what it means to be successful.

[@legorahma]

she's so genuine about her art and it's rare to see nowadays. her music has been there for me since i was 12, throughout the many phases in my teenagehood and now i'm 20, still finding new meanings in all her songs. i love her.

[@Raacelavigne]

ALBUM OF THE YEAR.

[@charlotteaitchison2922]

naur it’s trew it’s trew…

[@TheMach1nist]

Album of the life.

[@theodoe946]

Marina, to me, seems to be an artist in the purest form. Like she puts time and care and love into her craft, and doesn’t care about success. She’s such a smart writer too, she’s amazing

[@bradleywelch9290]

Still as beautiful as ever and well spoken. So in love.

[@mauriciodom]

Her art means so much to me, specially the Electra Heart album that came out when I was a teenager. I was mesmerized by the fashion choices and general aesthetic, production, videos, lyrics. Watching her evolve is beautiful and so refreshing because she is so creative and genuine. I love her so much! ❤️

[@topfert7067]

It's so interesting to see how Marina has changed her style of giving interviews. Earlier (I'm talking pre-Froot), she appeared as if she had to prove that she was having fun - she kept on laughing and her responses were more 'pleasant' from society's point of view. I'm gaining more from the seldom interviews she's giving nowadays though. She's truly confident and has a lot to say. Love her. :)

[@klairebear1986]

I absolutely love her accent, she has a certain inflection, like when she says "years" and it is just so beautiful, just like her voice 🤩

[@tellyknessis6229]

You can take the girl out of S Wales, but you can't take S Wales out of the girl...

[@parisdelrey5566]

Omg every time I hear her speak I fall in love with her even more. ❤️

[@potatocatmani5459]

I truly have to thank a friend for introducing me to Marina's music with a blend of Family Jewels and Electra Heart about ten years ago. It was such a treat to go home and look up her music videos, buy the albums on my own, and then celebrate and talk about them with her from then on. And here we all are later, five albums in and celebrating Marina in her newest endeavor.

[@ietor2]

Best interview from this era so far- well done!

[@cynbk]

We love your new album Marina!!! Absolutely powerful lyrics and sound 💎

[@youtuber89895]

great interview, the interviewer is so well researched and asked interesting questions! and Marina gave such articulate answers as well

[@MarinaAndTheDevil]

I think she might be Greek

[@marinasplanet255]

What? Really?

[@ambs9564]

possibly half welsh

[@Lilacxxl]

you're a loyal fan, i've seen you for years under her videos lol

[@corajane2963]

yeah she is Greek and Welsh, if I remember

[@danuk2136]

Welsh

[@TheEntelexia]

Marina is not only a vision but her mind is so so beautiful.

[@tove8719]

Loved this interview and gosh I love Marina so much. Not only her music but her personality and energy. I could listen to her talking every day.

[@syifag5284]

Where r u Marina and The Devil??? I need his comment here 😂👌 Love u Marina, such an inspiration ❤️

[@sBimbo-jx7eg]

well, they did comment here LMAOOO

[@tresbeans]

I think Marina encodes messages in her music. I listened to the album while doing acid and whippits. During Pandora's box my room turned electric blue and eventually I zoomed into a vast dark space with a golden scale in the middle that I travelled upwards within. Riding that wave was a 2021 highlight. LDRs blue banisters came on after the album ended and everything went GREY.

[@lucasm5648]

Love her so much. Ancient Dreams is now my favorite MARINA album!!! Followed by Froot then Love + Fear :)

[@taniaroberts4076]

I only dicoverer Marina like 1 year ago from youtube as she is not famous in France but the only album i really love so much and that i can stop playing non stop is thr Froot album. Also, i really loved the Karma song from the other album. She s such a beautiful girl :)

[@drys3136]

NME slated her early albums so interested to see what their reception is now.

[@quyen8059]

Amazing interview

[@lanarose1075]

I WISH MARINA collabed more!

[@laureng762]

Her music and unreleased tracks have saved my sanity so many times. Love this woman forever!!

[@Atentoamusicamedianews1]

after this interview i went to check her music out not bad

[@amandahahl1561]

Hi!😀

[@amandahahl1561]

How are you today? 😀

[@amandahahl1561]

I recorded Taylor reed yesterday can you watch it and reply to me please? 😀👋

[@bradleywelch9290]

You've never heard marina and the diamonds - Lies before? Man, you've missed out. I'll put you on to some of my favs by her. Lies, Savages, Emotional Machine, Karma, Oh no. man i have soo much more but those should be enough to make you fall in love.

[@Atentoamusicamedianews1]

@@bradleywelch9290 yea I haven't hear of her untill now I went to check in

[@rogerbarrett1979]

I just love me some Marina. She's just so fabulous. I'm so into her music. It's just awesome. She makes this world a better place. 😍😍

[@notyisus]

love her so much 💞💞

[@lasnico_7]

She has a great mindset.

[@pufferluver14]

What a good interview. Love Marina

[@CHMgamemedic777]

Those first 13secs are already the truest shit i've ever heard. Go Marina!

[@maerosanadeiyansa]

Eu amo tanto essa mulher. 🥺

[@sirwalksoftly]

I love her soul already

[@Anonymous36]

Love you, Marina!

[@cristobalchavez6278]

Such a good interview

[@lanarose1075]

GREAT INTERVIEW!

[@pablomontelongo1619]

I love herrr

[@anthonygemayel9429]

I'm so in love with her

[@ground.jordan]

really informative thank u

[@Ari-xz9en]

I love her

[@edwinwierzbicki3503]

I like her accent. It's a pleasure to hear her speaking

[@bronyamorgan1368]

I love you Marina

[@primeracuenta0167]

I LOVE YOU MARINA 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@danuk2136]

I want a marina/britney collab 👍❤

[@indielucaas3770]

Eu amo a marina

[@leila_lol22]

Marina is a legand

[@felilezcano3172]

TE AMO REINA

[@lanarose1075]

YES LOVE MARINA!

[@tobeshunned7310]

I love Marina SO much, she is the moment. Excuse the username....

[@AmberGrace24]

Your username is a bit sus

[@tobeshunned7310]

@@AmberGrace24 AAAaaH MY NAME WTH. I didnt notice?? Awp

[@tobeshunned7310]

I thought I fixed it already, again, oof. I keep getting bamboozled

[@AmberGrace24]

@@tobeshunned7310 PAHAHAGAHAH ITS FINE I CHANGED MINE TO “SPARKLEYPOOP” AND IT WOULNT CHNAGE BACK 😩😩 I had to make a new acc

[@AmberGrace24]

She is so gorgeous

[@diegopolanco4438]

🖤🖤🖤

[@Kongkogk]

❤️❤️

[@miguelgoncalves5278]

LENDAA

[@reyhansen9927]

❤❤❤

[@Maik55732]

Smart, beautiful, successful and funny.

[@allanmedeira9084]

Somebody knows the name of the book she talked about in the beginning of the interview???

[@MasandroO]

«The Lady and the Monk: Four Seasons in Kyoto» by Iyer Pico

[@allanmedeira9084]

@@MasandroO Thank you so much! ❤️

[@avangel13]

❤

[@eb8647]

no one: Marina: yürs

[@so7iane88]

u funny 🤣

[@connorgreen609]

Didn't realize I'd like a webcam interview thanks covid

[@AmberGrace24]

ALBUM OF THE CENTURY

[@atheerba8443]

Marina and the devils where u at ????

[@unstoppableguy]

Love Marina and her New Album 👏 Nick is hot! 😝

[@diegopolanco4438]

🌪🌪🌪

[@paulawood6039]

I know this because Marina actually thinks my thoughts vs.

[@ASSamiYT]

"Triggering" is usually not the word. It's many times actually just hate or insecurity.

[@quantumofhate]

NICE VIEW LOVE YAS

[@thevyseter]

hey, i'm from 1988

[@paulawood6039]

I am very much like Marina.. and it's impossible to explain why you are 'chosen one' and expect people to understand you. It's like speaking Latin to God 🙏 but no one else can translate the energy in your vision.

[@PS-hi9os]

why does everyone move to LA its so lame...

[@paulawood6039]

I think she's still confused about who she is. At least she's making music and writing lyrics for her own personal self discovery or her interests. I just can't believe she said: "I had build this amazing community of that name (Marina and the diamonds)... And I was somehow weirdly locked into this smiley happy persona that couldn't show any other side of myself and .. that your public self and your personal self is so separate" Basically she says the name was part of that reason she wasn't feeling relaxed and authentic. That's funny because most of her early songs had so much angst and bitterness in the lyrics accompanied with self pity and restlessness. How can she call that not being her self or being locked into some 'happy persona'?

[@DieAerzteFreak17175]

I really feel like, I am going through this right now.. This.. Realising of being someone else when alone and being "happy" with others. And it just, for me personally, feels like this "happy me" is not me! It's a part of me keeping me save.. By keeping me save.. It's keeping me away from everyone around me. All people see, is a part, that I used to rely on when I was in danger as a kid Or had to be a certain way so my family sees me. This is not me. This is a part of me keeping me save and away from people. It feels like it's not me. It feels like a different entity. When yeah.. In reality, it's me. It's me, and my way of coping.. But I won't.. Can't see it this way, yet! I hate this part of me keeping me away and locked in "being happy @ all times".. I wanna be with people WITH all of my emotions - not just happiness.

[@CamRebires]

yörs

[@bjarnyg]

i enjoyed this interview, but why does he have such crappy sound? she sounds fine.

[@theLOSTpassenger_]

She probably has a better mic than he does.

[@olivr.malu___]

5:54 bleah

[@paulawood6039]

Please don't get me wrong. Marina is wonderful and I can see why she's done these different 'projects' at each time. But I feel like she wasted too much time with Jack and that's not authentic Marina to become confused. I think I understand why she deliberately just calls herself Marina now. I think what really happened to her was that she was uncertain about Jack in general hence the name "love and fear". Then she realized that she cannot live a standard kind of housewife life (with him anyway) and she needed to get away from London to disconnect herself from everything including her fans (which some had turned against her, hence the song "Venus Flytrap". She has made it very clear before that she doesn't want to settle down, because her new ambitions drive her. Anyway, Jack may have seemed the right prince on white armour and horse 🐎 at one point (when she needed a break). I think Marina quickly realised it wasnt right. Firstly Jack was cheating with Grace Chatto and secondly Jack was a basic, dull rich boy just like she prescribed in her song "seventeen". I think she thought she could escape herself in this bromance.. but she has also said "all I know is I cannot pretend, I ain't got the energy bro blend..so I'm sitting on the outside again.. on my own again" - inside the outsider

[@DrMattDestruction]

Universal Basic Income today! give homeless people your money today! marina is so amazeballs!

[@quantumofhate]

oh jeeeeesus she's damn good looking...OH JESUS SHE'S TASTY LOOKING!

[@jadenramdayal7523]

Her looks aren't important,its the message that she's trying to get across.

[@Terminallyposessed]

Ew

[@paulawood6039]

Marina has always said diamonds are her fans. To me by dropping that name was because her own fanbase turned against her after she met Jack 🎃. Then she decided I'm doing it alone and dropped 'diamonds' because they were no longer why she made her new album and moved to US. She said in the beginning that without my fans I'm nothing, but now she is no longer available for her fans who made her.

[@Terminallyposessed]

Nah you reaching hon

[@paulawood6039]

M$S

[@feelingdeadinsideinc1283]

Nah she sounds like me bye

[@thereddevil5548]

Señor, el patriarcado no existe.

[@STRcircaFKR]

As a neurodivergent person with sensitive ears that uses earbuds, and just as a person with ears, could ya'll make the outro song not so loUD? Goddang that hurt

[@STRcircaFKR]

Anywhay. Great interview!

[@sugarfalls1]

As much as I love her music, she does have a lyric that says blame America for all wars which I think is very extreme. How about America coming to the rescue of France and Britain in WWII? What about Japan dropping a bomb on Pearl Harbor and Hitler's cremation of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people? How about all the aid we give, even to countries that hate us? We give millions of dollars in aid to third world countries every year so for that comment, I'd like to say I think what she says is really misguided. I hope she can change her mind about America 'cause imho, America does far more to help the world than it does to hinder it. What about Russia and North Korea? It seems like America is the scapegoat for everything bad in the world. I really wish that kind of warped thinking would just come to an end.

[@becnimi]

We do more harm that good and a lot of that is hidden..

[@sugarfalls1]

@@becnimi Ok, I'd like to know who does more harm...Iran or the United States of America 'cause if you say we do, then you are dead wrong.

[@becnimi]

@@sugarfalls1 What does this has to do with Iran vs U.S? Yeah multiple countries have done wrong but the U.S has done A lot and we shouldn't over look that.The U.S created white supremacy, colonized multiple countries, is racist towards it's own people, and starts wars over natural resources while covering it up. I don't think Marina was trying to trash the U.S, she lives here. She was only bringing up things the U.S has done and what needs to be changed and pointed out and I think a country's citizens have the right to call things out when they're bad. It's just sad to see people claim the U.S is one of the best countries when there is better. Sure we have a lot of benefits but there's still so much that can be improved as we have seen the past year

[@sugarfalls1]

@@becnimi Uh, did you hear her lyric where she says blame America for every single war? Look, the U.S. didn't create white supremacy 'cause there is no such thing as white supremacy! lol Look, I didn't grow up thinking America was racist 'cause nobody taught us that BS and it is BS! This is definitely a generational thing so since I'm not a millenial and I don't think the way you do, we can just agree to disagree. I like her music more than I dislike it. But as far as the United States being like Russia or China, you can rethink that mentality! No country gives you more freedoms than America. That's why we have people crawling across the border to get here! Remember America is called the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave for a reason. We're not called the land of the communists and the land of people who'll cut your head off if you speak your mind. This is what America is and will always stand for.

[@sugarfalls1]

And btw, America hardly colonized any countries! Look to England, Spain, France, the Netherlands and Portugal for that one! lol I don't what history book you're reading from but your facts are all wrong! Totally wrong! We are a nation founded on freedoms! Who do you think colonized Brazil? It definitely wasn't America! Who do you think colonized most of Africa! Definitely wasn't America! Who do you think colonized most of Asia! It wasn't America! As far as I no, no country asked for its independence back where we took over. Are you talking about like Guam? Puerto Rico? Hawaii? Your facts aren't facts! They're some misguided excuse at blaming America! lol We weren't a super power until the turn of the century. Get your facts straight! Woodrow Wilson didn't even want to get into World War I! Did you know that? We didn't even get involved until 1917. The United States of America hardly started every single war, so get your facts straight! WWII was going on way b4 Japan dropped a bomb on Pearl Harbor! Nowhere in that entire sentence did it say anything about America starting any wars with any country! Hitler invaded Poland, took over Paris and bombed England, France, etc., not to mention Nazi concentration camps! We never knowingly slaughtered our own population. It's a sad thing to know someone can have such a warped view of history. But you have no idea what you're talking about. Not even in the slightest. You are completely clueless as far as I'm concerned.

[@AndresLopezZarate]

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