Marine autopilot installation - Raymarine EV-100 autohelm - Ep. 134

[@TheRealNykki]

You guys are fantastic! My boyfriend and I loved the installation. We also need the box for the monitor and your tip is very welcome. Only concern we would like to share is the fact that the compass can't be around any electronics, and that may include the ACU. Maybe that's what had you guys going in circles? Anyway, we loved the video and your creative solutions. Best, Nykki and Gustavo

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

We found the cause of the problem. The flux compass is against a bulkhead which has the starboard locker on the other side and we found a deck brush with a mild steel handle in that locker. Once we removed the steel brush everything was good again. We detailed it in Episode 147 about 2 minutes in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHa0q3-Zf8uMjtE Thanks for your kind words and we are glad that you are enjoying the channel

[@abdullahgamezer9516]

انا سعيد جدا اني وجدت قناتك على اليوتيوب واقدم تحياتي لك واشكرك على المعلومات التي تقدميها لكني احتاج منك مساعدة كيف يمكنني ان احصل على منظومه القياده الاوتوماتيكية وهل هناك عنوان لمتجر يمكنني التواصل معه لشراء المنظومه

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Hi there. The unit is a Raymarine EV-100. The best thing to do is to search on the internet for a Raymarine dealer in your country and then contact them.

[@abdullahgamezer9516]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass شكرا جزيلا لايوجد متجر في القطر الذي انا فيه اقرب مجهز في تركيا وحاولت التواصل معه لكن لايوجد عنده منظومة الاتوبايلت

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

@@abdullahgamezer9516 - Perhaps try Greece or some of Gulf states? Or use Amazon. Search for "Raymarine EV-100". I doubt you will get as good a price as through a local dealer but it is listed on Amazon UK.

[@jamestube1796]

You presented the video really well-very concise and told me exactly what I wanted to know!

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Thank you. We are glad it helped you 👍

[@Ash-cy7yw]

Thank you both !

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Any time!

[@mjcooke2sailingmostly]

I've no experience of wheelpilots, all 15 (approximately, never counted properly) of my boats have been tiller, so good to see this video, I'd be happier with an internal linear drive but sure they are very expensive, I'd hope that a boat I'd bought already had one! I keep making mean offers for larger boats, might get a shock one day if an offer is accepted.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

It is one of the reasons a second-hand boat can be much better value than a brand new one - all those nice "extras" fitted by the previous owner.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Gaynor here - Not too sure how the present situation is going to affect the price of boats. I think they will go down, but I have already received an email from a seller saying that they have several people wanting to buy boats and the price of boats is going up as they have more buyers than sellers so we will just have to wait and see. As you have only had tillers you should be a dab hand at autopilots for them

[@mjcooke2sailingmostly]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass I've seen some sell, the market is smaller though. Anyone buying away from their locality would have to buy sight unseen if they stick to the travel rules. I missed out on a Bavaria 37 in Conwy lately. I've been inside some tillerpilots and wonder how their flimsy gears cope, they too give in when it's rougher then the long stay at the helm begins.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Oh! Which Bavaria? There was one a couple of slips down from us when we were in Conwy. It was called "Christina"

[@mjcooke2sailingmostly]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass Yes, that was the one, was under offer a month, they were going to contact me if it fell through.

[@ronalddaniels1150]

Hi, thanx for the video. You had troubles with the clutch, and replaced the backplate. Did you also consider turning the steering wheel around ? In my Bavaria it gives more space betwen wheeldrive and pedestal.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

I think our wheel only fits one way round. I remember having a struggle with it in the early days because it was backwards. It is an interesting solution 👍

[@jimlambert7786]

Well done ladies!

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Thank you :-)

[@SVImpavidus]

A great instructional video ladies you overcame all the issues that there are with the wheel pilot and on a budget! Scanstrut and Dick Turpin have a lot in common! But at least he wore a mask 😁Sail Safe guys. Ant, Cid and the pooch crew.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

That comment reminds me of a shaggy dog story that a friend once told me and the final line in the story was "Dick Turpin wore a mask". It was a very funny story, but even at the time I marvelled at the story tellers whit and humour and knew that I would never be able to retell that story. Unless you wanted a wet damp tirade

[@stuartmarklew8638]

Great job folks, your tutorial is going to assist with my ev100 kit installation, fair winds and cu around 👀

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Thank you and good luck with it all

[@johnwishart7950]

both entertaining and interesting

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

High praise! My worry was that it would be a bit of a dry subject. Thank you

[@johnwishart7950]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass i fine you make it entertaining or factual your s come in between

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

If you want factual, then have a look at the bottom part of the blog that goes with the video as there we have all the parts that we used plus a circuit diagram www.saltylass.co.uk/marine-autopilot-installation

[@zenvad8080]

good job, thanks

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Thanks for watching!

[@zenvad8080]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass I bought the same autopilot and this week I have to install it, so your video is in my subject

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

@@zenvad8080 - there are a couple of follow-up videos as well as we discover more and more about the autopilot. Also the flux compass is very sensitive to CHANGES in the magnetic field. We had a deck brush that moved around in the locker when at sea. As we later discovered it had a mild-steel fitting in the shaft and was strongly magnetised and as it rolled from side to side the flux compass would go insane. It was about ½ metre away from the compass. Now anything mild steel or magnetic is banned from the rear half of the cockpit.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

@@zenvad8080 - We have created a playlist for the Autopilot and its related issues. Good luck with your install kzbin.info/aero/PL28HWPHBunMmTSg-dbXziOvh14rBTC7B1

[@zenvad8080]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass thank you very much

[@hideawaysailing9078]

Another awesome video ⛵️⚓️❤️

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ilCignoTube]

The EVO autopilots are smarter than you think. It can follow a route from your plotter, and if there is wind data available it can steer a course relative to the wind direction. Although I use either of them very much, it is possible.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

We discovered that a few weeks later and did an update video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKKmfaV_l82ri8U

[@ronalddaniels1150]

Hi Ladies, what material did you use for the new backplate for your plotter ?

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

3mm ply faced with 5mm black acrylic. We glued them together with something similar to sikaflex. The ply is because acrylic can be brittle and needs support.

[@ronalddaniels1150]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass thank you for your quick reply. This helps a lot.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

@@ronalddaniels1150 - happy to help

[@nelsonknowles9673]

Hello ladies you all are great. I enjoyed seeing you all installing your autopilot. I’ll like to talk with you all. How can I reach you?

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

We're glad you are enjoying the videos. The easiest way to get in touch is via Facebook. Our FB account has Prudence the Penguin on it (our channel mascot)

[@nelsonknowles9673]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass okay thanks. I don’t have facebook. Am using WhatsApp and email. Am located in the Bahamas. You all very knowledgeable about boats.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

And we do not do WhatsApp! 😮 It might be fair to say we are knowledgeable about 20 year old Bavarias asthat is what we get to practice on when things go wrong... 😄

[@evinwhiteson4902]

I have all raymarine and am very happy with them however cpt autopilots makes a great wheel pilot for 2,000.00 thats very strong and durable. If you need to steer in offshore passages for boats up to 40,000 pounds.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Useful information to know. Our boat when loaded up is 6 or 7 tonnes (about 14,000lbs I think)

[@iancoverdale998]

Great job! Noticed there were a few cables around your flux compass; wonder if you've noticed them cause any deviation. I have a German production boat that has around 20-degree deviation caused by house battery charge current when the engine is running! Also has a friends headphones placed in the wrong place jibe the boat; joys of technology. Love the video. Many thanks.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

We are getting a deviation, but it is occasional, so you might be fine for say 5 weeks, then all of a sudden it goes haywire. What we think the problem is, is that we have to read the instructions again as it only happens when we press certain buttons, but we can never remember which buttons we have pressed. I tided up the cables more after the last shot of my wiring plus we looked at all that, the very first time it went haywire which was just coming into Portrush. It was our first thought though.

[@sailingperegrine]

how many amps does this typically use in an hour under way?

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

It's _maximum_ draw is 7A but in moderate conditions it uses a lot less. Once the sails are balanced the boat will practically hold a course without the auto-pilot and in those conditions it uses almost no power. Also, the solar panels mean that the power issues are even less of a concern

[@hoverwatch4131]

Thanks for the video. Can you tell me what residual forces you have on the helm when the autopilot clutch is disengaged? I have fitted one, but the wheel forces are much higher than I expected with it disengaged. (I also have yet to see the wheel pilot appear on the P70 within the backbone, so not sure what the deal is there as yet)

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

When we disengage the autopilot and release the clutch there is no residual resisitance from the autpilot. It feels like a normal wheel and rotates freely. So, in your position I would try removing the drive and clutch (I am assuming you have a wheelpilot like us and not a hydraulic ram on the quadrant) and seeing if the wheel turns freely. If the wheel still feels heavy with the autopilot removed then either the steering need lubricated or the rudder bearing needs replacing. I say this because in Bavarias like ours the factory fitted rudder bearing is known to swell and make the steering feel very heavy. Many owners replace the factory bearing with a needle bearing instead. If the steering feels OK after removing the wheeldrive then try adjusting the friction setting. This is a small nut just between the drive motor and the pedestal pin and is adjusted with an Allen Key to unlock it and then twist it round and relock with the Allen key. You might be able to reach this with the wheel pilot in place if your binnacle shape allows.

[@hoverwatch4131]

Thanks for the reply. The helm runs free as a bird without the wheel pilot installed, so I think more troubleshooting will be required!

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

In that case, check the little clutch tensioner on the back of the plastic wheel fitting. It is right beside the drive motor

[@paulmanicone2903]

Thanks for this step by step video. I just installed the same autopilot and now have a question: how did you connect SeaTalk NG backbone to your NMEA 2K backbone. I see there is backbone adapters available. Did you connect at terminal ends? Did you disconnect power feed to one of the two backbones? Thanks and fair winds!

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

This boat had no networks of any kind when we purchased it, but we did have some devices that had NMEA2K DeviceNet connectors rather than Seatalk ones. What we did was we bought Seatalk to DeviceNet cables (they have different connectors at each end) and then we plugged the other devices directly into the Seatalk network. If your boat has a NMEA2K network already, I would try buy a joining cable to bridge the two networks and place it in the NMEA network as close as possible to the power supply and leave the Seatalk network "unpowered". It will either work or it will not, but it is a safer trial than attempting to power them both. If your NMEA network only has two or three devices and the Seatalk network is larger, then power the Seatalk one and unpower the NMEA network and bridge it in. If you have 20 devices in each then I have no idea what to do 😄

[@paulmanicone2903]

@@SailingYachtSaltyLass Thank you so much for the prompt reply! I will bridge the networks, unpower Sea Talk, and let you know how it goes!

[@dodegkr]

happy days, drink wine and have the boat sail you in one direction at least :-) can the device accept course settings via nmea?

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Absolutely. Enjoy the sailing rather than endure it ;-)

[@ironhenry2708]

Do you have a link to the box you used for the autopilot screen

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06ZY2XPG5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You can find everything to do with the installation including a full parts list on our website. The link below will take you straight to the relevant info. www.saltylass.co.uk/marine-autopilot-installation

[@ironhenry2708]

Sailing Yacht Salty Lass thanks so much such a great idea I just ordered one

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

We could not believe the prices of some suppliers - some wanted more for the box than the cost of the instrument to go in it. This little weatherproof box has done very well. We just mounted it "bottom up" with the access panel facing away from the P70.

[@rockchicksdigme]

Your marina could charge more for having the novelty of you ladies on the premises. ❤

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

They did, so we left 😄

[@fredsantos82]

Very good video, well done 👏👏 Where you find the box for the control panel?

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

The P70 box was ordered from Amazon www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06ZY2XPG5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The other box was this one, but we did not buy it on eBay. www.ebay.co.uk/p/2072325818?iid=371803725422&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=371803725422&targetid=878077541881&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007275&poi=&campaignid=9441266622&mkgroupid=95287893825&rlsatarget=pla-878077541881&abcId=1140486&merchantid=7276964&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq7XE8f6i6QIVF-DtCh15vQAoEAQYAyABEgLhMPD_BwE

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Found the correct url for you seamarknunn.com/acatalog/nasa-clipper-mounting-pod-8042.html

[@learigg]

We fitted a Raymarine Axiom chart plotter, we already had a Raymarine wheel pilot ST4000 on a Seatalk network. The ST4000 seatalk network is connected to the Axiom Seatalkng network via a bridge. The reason i mention all this is that a course set on the chartplotter will be followed by the ST4000 wheelpilot. I would be really surprised if your wheel pilot did not have this functionality, bear in mind our ST4000 is prob 20 years old. I think the wheel pilot used the cross track error messages to steer the course, maybe someone who knows could comment on this.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

That is really interesting to know. I wonder if it is a Raymarine thing? Our plotter is a B&G although we do have a Garmin on the network as well.

[@learigg]

It's worth checking your b&g manual to see if you can configure for op of XTR message. I'm sure the Ray marine unit won't be brandist and will use the XTR message regardless of origin.

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

I'll look it up because as long as the B&G can get the messages on the network then we are sorted

[@learigg]

Looks like the ev100 has track mode so if you have a network connection between plotter and pilot then all should be good. forum.raymarine.com/showthread.php?tid=3984

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

I do recall seeing something about "tracks". We will have a look at that and if we can make it work then we will put a video up about it. We might have to wait for a few weeks for testing purposes..

[@ianswales7219]

Abit late to the party but if a boat is left in one direction for any length of time (on a berth) it can become magnetised by earths magnetic field (especially steel boats ). With a yacht the mast and boom could be affected this however wears off once underway and changing heading . Resulting in slight changes of deviation , so boat may need a quick recalibrating if laid up for a while. May also settle things down if you move the flux gate compass away from the aft area as lots of metal parts there particularly the rudder post and associated equipment. I think on my boat it is in a locker midships. maybe with your new NMEA 2000 there a suitable place further away. Just my ten peneth worth enjoy the videos fair winds and safe landings all the best ....

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Hi Ian, thanks for the comments. I had not considered the Earth's magnetic field but I suspect that for a teel boat it could be a problem. Luckily for us, our boat is almost completely fibreglass and aluminium and what steel we have is stainless which magnetises poorly. We did have a few problems later on that turned out to be caused by a piece of mild steel in a lazarette!!!

[@PattiJerry]

What was the supplier of the marine instrument box?

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

I linked to the makers of the two boxes in an answer to Fredico Santos's comment so you can find both links there. The only other box came from Raymarine with the autopilot unit in and that was from Rowlands Marine in Conwy, North Wales

[@FlyingNandoSV]

👍👍👍

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Felt like giving a whole load of emojis in return :)

[@PaulusPHM]

now you can fly lassy like a Boeing

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Well, some Boeings.... ;)

[@rockchicksdigme]

Oive gaht a flooks capasssatah 🎉

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

Enjoy 1955. Or possibly 2015 😉