Mark: An Eyewitness Account

[@lemonsquidsec]

"Mark is, in fact, based.." Yes, I agree.

[@Dominik-t1d]

@@lemonsquidsec lol

[@CrownOfThornss]

😂😂

[@Caleb_287]

The fathers tell us Mark wrote down what Peter preached in rome

[@DarkBlade37]

Indeed, and this tradition goes back all the way to the first century from someone called John the Presbyter (who might or might not be the same person as the apostle John, but still lived in the same time period).

[@elvolvasky69]

@@DarkBlade37 that is the immerse jhon the Baptism

[@DarkBlade37]

@@elvolvasky69 John the Baptist died during Jesus’ ministry.

[@humbirdms2784]

​@darkblade4340 they're just saying something to try to sound smart lol.

[@AnyProofOfTheseClaims]

Where was their proof of claims?

[@fr.jeremiahcaughran6191]

You have just condensed a seminary level class into a single 36 minute video! Your work continues to astound me in so many ways. Thank you for your faithfulness to make known the truth that we believe!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Wow, thank you!

[@christianblack9426]

​@InspiringPhilosophy Hey, Michael! You should do a video about whether or not verses 9-20 should be included in Mark 16, and whether or not they are accurate, and written by Mark. All sorts of Bibles now are counting those verses out, either bracketing them, or discluding them from the text. And when those verses are removed, there are no post-resurrection appearances of Jesus recorded in the gospel.

[@eddielopez2373]

That less about the video and more about how pathetic and meaningless seminary level “education” is.

[@r.l.mcdermid6034]

​@@eddielopez2373 have you been to seminary?

[@Empirical_yapper]

​@@christianblack9426not really when you take verses 1-8 from the same chapter of Mark ( 16 ) into consideration It clearly mentions that they saw an empty tomb and the angel sitting besides the Rock announced Jesus' ressurection and told her to tell the disciples that he would meet them in Galilee... So not a problem either way

[@Rocky-ur9mn]

The fact that as new evidences pop up we are always moving towards closer the conclusions of Christian orthodoxy is very satisfying

[@Theonly_Onyx]

What do you mean? What exactly do you believe Christian orthodoxy is?

[@TheOmniGameDev]

​@@Theonly_OnyxI think it is pretty clear what he means, standard traditional Christianity

[@ricksonora6656]

@@Theonly_Onyx He didn’t capitalize orthodoxy, so he obviously means the faith defined in the canonical scriptures.

[@el_killorcure]

​@@ricksonora6656He sure didn't mean lgbtq "christianity"

[@Theonly_Onyx]

@@ricksonora6656 ok cool. For a second I thought he was talking about Catholicism 😂

[@noahhcooks]

Dude thank you so much for your videos. As a relatively new follower of Christ your videos really help strengthen my faith and understanding of scripture. God bless!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

I’m so glad to help, thank you for the donation.

[@RDR12344]

Even though I'm an atheist you got a new subscriber.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Thank you and welcome

[@adamstewart9052]

Let's hope that IP's videos directly cause or at least contribute to you reconsidering your atheism.

[@RDR12344]

@adamstewart9052 I am not against religion but if you say you're one religion, someone else will say you're wrong and going to hell. That's why I enjoy studying all the abrahamic religions on my own, to understand them. And inspiring philosophy does a good job presenting the apologist viewpoint

[@ricksonora6656]

@@RDR12344 You can say 1+1=2, and someone will say that’s wrong. That someone disagrees is not evidence. Truth is not defined by those who discern or reject it. A friendly warning: You can send a criminal to capital punishment based on evidence “beyond reasonable doubt,” which does not require absence of doubt. You can impose ruinous, crippling debt on someone based on “preponderance of evidence,” which means their opponent just needs slightly better evidence. Both are examples of faith (before it was misdefined by pop atheists). Faith does not require absolute proof; it means trusting the explanation of the evidence that has the most explanatory power. Don’t fall into “analysis paralysis.”

[@elshuku1]

I respect that!!

[@ChildofGod98765]

God hear my prayers. Having two sons with special needs is overwhelming at times because they require so much from me. As a single mother things are difficult. I keep faith in you Jesus even as I struggle to pay rent, and as I struggle to buy groceries for my sons. Every month is a battle. I want to give up yet God gives me strength. Faith is my strength.💕

[@lisalisaknits1314]

@@ChildofGod98765 Keeping you and your family in my prayers.

[@lavieenrose5954]

Mousey Miller strikes again..

[@guy1281]

May the Father give you provision and may the Lord Jesus Christ rest your heavy laden spirit as you take on life's challenges. Take heart! For He will never leave you nor forsake you.

[@josephsampa8131]

God will come through for you. He always comes through when at the point things get impossible. Keep the faith. It shall be well. We are praying for you.

[@SquizzMe]

I'm a school teacher working in a school with a large special needs population. I share in your struggles. We need all the strength the Lord can give us.

[@danensosnore9011]

"Critical scholars" in the 41st century, "Did Einstein really discover E=MC²?"

[@VindensSaga]

It could be possible, it really depends on how much information we will lose over the years or that people in the future will simply be skeptic about it.

[@Dominik-t1d]

Or even better: What was the true name of "the rock"? To anyone who doesn't get it: we don't know the Actual name of Plato. Plato is just his wrestler name, so it's basically the same as if we only knew Dwayne Johnson as "the rock"

[@CathDamienn1776]

Cant wait for this IP, your videos have really reinforced my already present faith and armed with pretty good defences against unbelievers

[@briandiehl9257]

I won't be able to watch it when it comes out, but I am here just to boost the algorithm

[@ricksonora6656]

@@briandiehl9257 I will reply so you get a notification to watch it later.

[@thelandonm1357]

Dude I love your apologetic videos! Here recently I guess I’ve had a bit of falling away from my faith and it honestly broke me. I felt that maybe religion was just simply man’s appeal to find purpose in life. You’ve evidently proven that’s not the case; you’ve provided great cases that there is a God who loves and that there is great evidence in history and even in our consciousness. Keep up the amazing work🙌🏻

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Thank you so much for the donation. I’m so glad you didn’t lose your faith, and I’m glad I could help.

[@JesusPerez-wd3tq]

Glory to god

[@tjr_bestclipz]

Hey IP. Just wanted to let you know I’ve been watching your videos for 2 years now and it’s been instrumental in the development of my faith. No other channel has gone this far in depth to explain Christian history and theology. God bless you man

[@saraelnoamany7155]

This was freaking wonderful! Bless you for all the work you do for the kingdom! Can’t wait for the rest.

[@Crusader_Cal]

God bless ya mike, your apologetics have allowed me to take a deep dive into the faith as a recent convert of two years. Listening to your videos has strengthened my imam ten fold

[@DarrenGedye]

Outstanding! There is like a whole book's worth of content in this video!

[@humbirdms2784]

Glory to God in the highest 🙏 IP youre such an amazing content creator. I love all the work that goes into youre work, you deserve all the subscribers this channel has gathered through the years. Keep up the work brother, God bless you and you're family.

[@MultiMobCast]

The visuals are getting a lot better well done my friend !

[@imikewillrockyou]

As always Michael, thank you! Without Christianity the world would be a much poorer place, in every way.

[@alp5088]

How could you even know that?

[@imikewillrockyou]

@@alp5088 History. Literacy for the masses didn't come from Islam, or secular government, or by random chance. Following the Protestant Reformation Christians wanted people to be able to read the bible. So suddenly instead of a small elite who could read suddenly there were millions. That alone propelled us into the modern world. Human rights, dignity and equality were Christian taught values unknown in the Roman world they emerged out of.

[@davidhenderson6255]

Great video! I would highly recommend creating a bibliography of your sources in the description so viewers can read them as well. Thank you for putting this video and the series of which it is a part!

[@zinogre6225]

This. This right here

[@marius5_]

Saying the Gospels are reliable is so offending to atheists and I'm all for it 😈

[@DylanO-o1g]

Uh actually. I find the gospel offensive and your canceled🤓

[@joyouskekistani6851]

*You're 🤓🤓🤓 ​@@DylanO-o1g

[@unoriginalclips9923]

“Noooooo! It has magic in it it’s obviously a big fairy tale!!!”

[@alexhavian]

The only reason atheists claim gospel is not eyewitness accounts because it records miracles.

[@KasperKatje]

​@@alexhaviannope. "Eyewitness account: a description given by someone who was present at an event."

[@stylishbizzle38]

Love your videos brother, you speak so clearly and always bring an in depth analysis of the topics you are talking about. The books you reference are a nice little touch too. Keep up the great work and thank you. Kieron.

[@Bogey1022]

Thank you, Jonesey!!! I just tore my shirt off and did a roundhouse kick! THANK YOU

[@Rinna33]

The same people who claim to want nothing but the truth trying to attack the Gospels despite all the evidence supporting they are true eyewitness accounts. It’s very telling what their goal actually is. Amazing video.

[@KasperKatje]

Stop making the same mistake over and over again. "Eyewitness account: a description given by someone who was present at an event."

[@dugonman8360]

When the same people who demand empirical evidence threw out the concept of objective truth in everything else you should realize they are talking in bad faith. It's not that they want evidence or truth, they just know it's a useful tactic to use against you.

[@-_--vx5hz]

It's because the gospel's being reliable eye-witness accounts are integral to the foundation of christianity, the death and resurrection of Jesus. If the gospels aren't reliable eye-witness accounts, then the claims of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection have no ground to stand on, that's why muslims, atheists, and critical scholars try so discredit it.

[@el_killorcure]

​@KasperKatje Where's the mistake? Peter (Mark) was present, Mary (Luke) was present, John (John) was present.

[@alp5088]

IP loves presuppositional apologetics. None of the evidence he provides are slam dunks, even if he states them as matter of fact.

[@railwayjade]

This is great, thank you! This previous week I have started reading through Mark so great timing!

[@marame350]

Finally, long form. I love when he does these. Thank you for time and care!

[@joshuamullins827]

I preaching through Mark now. We are truly blessed to have these accounts that we can read, study and obey.

[@Vapememes]

I believe that Luke's gospel also contains various passages that likely came from direct translations of Aramaic. In particular much of the infancy narrative in Luke seems to be derived from an Aramaic source. This seems to support the idea that Mary herself could have provided the details of said story in Luke.

[@MrMortal_Ra]

“In particular much of the infancy narrative in Luke seems to be derived from an Aramaic source” supported by what data exactly?

[@chomskysfavefive]

I cant wait for John's video. One of history's absolute greatest storyteller.

[@JadDragon]

It's good to see strong evidence supporting the Bible. Jesus lives! ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

[@JesusPerez-wd3tq]

Indeed he is risen glad I found this channel god bless!

[@JadDragon]

@@JesusPerez-wd3tq He is risen indeed! God bless you too

[@kristgromgrom7821]

Can you make a video the reliability on John’s Gospel?

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Yes, after one on Matthew and then Luke. John will be out in February.

[@DeAngeloJohnson-ee9bt]

@@InspiringPhilosophy what do u think about what papias says about Jesus's words in mathew being originally in Hebrew or “Ἑβραϊστί” (Hebraisti)

[@ramadadiver7810]

​@@DeAngeloJohnson-ee9bt I put that down to papias being a Greek speaker and writer and not understanding or knowing the difference between aramaic and hebrew.

[@ramadadiver7810]

​@DeAngeloJohnson- Some scholars think that Papias simply means "Ἑβραΐδι διαλέκτῳ" as a Hebrew style of Greeke

[@briandiehl9257]

@@ramadadiver7810 The specific quote is "Therefore Matthew put the logia in an ordered arrangement in the Hebrew language, but each person interpreted them as best he could." People have argued this quote was wrong since matthew appears to have been written in greek

[@LuisMarquez-ec1ef]

This is gold. God bless your ministry.

[@DevlinDomini]

Love it. Beginning to come back to this channel more a more .

[@zachindes]

So much depth and breadth in this one. Great work IP!

[@kaptaink1959]

wonderful as usual

[@theonlyway5298]

Thank you so much for your timely and well researched video! This is a great contribution to our understanding! The book titles are also a goldmine!

[@lukeng9034]

Watched the video, taken the notes. Faith is increased.

[@JesusPerez-wd3tq]

Same

[@jamesjaudon8247]

It's nice to hear plain historical facts presented simply. A joy to listen too.

[@takeshi_bennett]

Thank you for all of the work you do Mike. Your videos have been a great help in my journey and I’m sure the same is true for countless others. God is doing amazing work through you for the kingdom, and you’re inspiring others to be his vessels as well. God bless 🙏

[@eslygtrejosilva7232]

This is pure gold!

[@adamstewart9052]

I think certain sceptics like Paulogia are too quick to dismiss the Gospels as distant hearsay and/or embellishment legends written down by annonymous Christians with the reasoning sometimes being based on the presence of miracles since even if the traditional 4 men weren't correct that wouldn't necessarily mean they couldn't be based on eyewitness testimony and must be those options instead. It's better to not confuse possibility with probability.

[@DylanO-o1g]

To say it's all wrong is just too silly

[@adamstewart9052]

​​@@DylanO-o1gTell that to "Godless Engineer" and other Mythicists because they're obviously putting themselves in that position.

[@adamstewart9052]

*anonymous not annonymous.

[@johnnylollard7892]

I think a lot of it comes from an ontological prejudice against miracles. And, more importantly, a strong assumption against the extraordinary. In my opinion, these biases don't just run against the miraculous, but extraordinary events in general. Leibniz, the philosopher famed for calculus and monads, made a point that God never does things out of order, so that miracles aren't necessarily against created orders (perhaps we can say natural laws), but rather are against our ordinary experience. I think Leibniz could be correct, in that the prejudice against miracles is a prejudice and projection of ordinary experience (example: "I've never seen it, ergo it can't happen"), rather than an appeal to true natural order and regularity.

[@professorhaystacks6606]

@@johnnylollard7892 I see Leibniz, I upvote. I'm only familiar with his mathematical work. Apparently I need to broaden my reading list on him.

[@SUDMONEYBAGS]

The chef has cooked

[@BabyBilliesBibleBonkers]

2:48 there is a dispute over that passage from Justin Martyr. It can also be translated as "memoirs about Jesus" and so isn't necessarily referring to Peter's memoirs there.

[@Randomthing55]

IP is inspiring me do start an apologetic channel

[@briandiehl9257]

Starting a channel can be quite hard

[@gabriel.notfound]

The premier was fun

[@DylanO-o1g]

It was

[@CopeandSeethe325]

St. Peter wrote his Gospel through St. Mark just as he founded the Apostolic See of Alexandria through St. Mark ☦️

[@timothysparks6949]

Excellent, informative video! Thank you!

[@reasonablemind6830]

A good collection and extraction of relevant info from various scholars. Thanks for sharing the result of your time and effort.

[@RabbiMalahkYah]

Very well presented, lots of factual evidence that dismiss all the myths lies & fabrication told of the Gospels. Thank you , peace & blessings 🙏✝️🙏

[@Seminarystudent99]

This is excellent! Thank you!!

[@thegospelcallTGC]

Thank you for another great video. I always learn a lot from watching you. God bless.

[@TheOmniGameDev]

Mark was written by constintine when he invented Rome, it says so in the book of the councel of nicea

[@DylanO-o1g]

...what

[@planteruines5619]

​@@DylanO-o1gi think he's making a good joke about conspiracy theorists of that time period , but poe's law is lawing all over the place

[@orandegellogaming4793]

This has got to be satire

[@planteruines5619]

​@@DylanO-o1gi think he's making a good joke about conspiracy theorists of that time period , but poe's law is lawing all over the place

[@DylanO-o1g]

​@planteruines5619 he probably is

[@ATproof78]

I'm not sure if I am deconstructing or not but the Bible is an amazing and extremely important piece of literature ❤

[@NuanceinTheology0404]

Aside from the fact that Mark’s connection to Peter was well known among the early church fathers and is attested by other parts of the New Testament (1 Pet 5:13; Acts 12:12-17), the Gospel of Mark itself draws connections to Peter by forming another literary inclusio that centers on Peter himself-the first disciple mentioned in Mark is Peter (Mk 1:16) and the last disciple mentioned is Peter (Mk 16:7). Moreover, both of these mentions of Peter are quite emphatic-Mark goes out of his way to bring Peter to the forefront of each passage. This Petrine inclusio, combined with the inordinately high number of times the name Peter occurs in the Gospel and the manner in which Peter dominates the narratives of the disciples, makes it clear that Peter was to be understood as the “main eyewitness source behind Mark’s gospel.” Hengel observes, “Simon Peter is as a disciple named first and last in the Gospel to show that it is based on his tradition and therefore his authority.” Martin Hengel, The Four Gospels and the One Gospel of Jesus Christ (Harrisburg, PA: Trinity Press International, 2000)

[@marksolum1794]

Mark wrote some things he witnesses himself such as the last supper at his mother's house and Jesus being arrested. He knew Jesus and the Apostles, but was too young to follow Jesus around. He had a Greek father and a Jewish mother.

[@H-D33]

I love your channel!!! Great job 👍

[@od8401]

I was literally just having a struggle about this! I was on the USCCB website and they said it’s unlikely that Mark actually wrote Mark which gave me a shock. Thank you for this!

[@catfinity8799]

Bruh. Really? Critical scholarship in the USCCB? I knew that the Roman Catholic Church had some problems with theological liberalism, but I didn't know that it was that deep.

[@od8401]

@@catfinity8799 yeah I was stunned when I read it. I’m hoping and guessing that they had a scholar rather than a bishop write the section I read. But either way I don’t know why that’s on the site

[@catfinity8799]

@@od8401 Yeah, they're going against their own church's dogma, probably falling under an anathema. I hope for the Roman Church's sake it was just some scholar, and not a bishop.

[@professorhaystacks6606]

@@catfinity8799 ...Actually is the authorship a dogma of the Roman Church? I've found some things I thought were dogmatic are merely stances. @od8401 Why would anyone make him up as an author? This is pre-printing-press days, when writing took a lot of effort to distribute. If you were going to make up an author, you wouldn't use some obscure name mentioned once in a letter. You'd attribute it to an Apostle or someone else who is high up but difficult to check... like the Apocalype of Peter did, or the Infancy Gospel of James.

[@ramadadiver7810]

Mark was making a word for word translation rather than a dynamic translation

[@carlose4314]

Markl's gospel has a sense of urgency.

[@au8363]

Yep Glory To The Triune GOD

[@ythatesfacts]

Thanks!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Thank you for the donation!

[@ythatesfacts]

@InspiringPhilosophy np, I just hope YT stops censoring me after this

[@jessebumann]

I’d love to see a video like this on the other three Gospels

[@jackricky5453]

Another interesting point is that there is decent evidence to suggest that the longer ending of Mark was written by Ariston of Smyrna, who was actually an eyewitness and a disciple who would have known Jesus personally. This is likely Papias' source for the Markan gospel.

[@ryanevans2655]

You mean to tell me multiple external attestations plus corroborating internal evidence should allow us to confirm a work’s authentic authorship with some confidence? Crazy!

[@hobbywright8495]

Impressive work! Thank you!

[@racksityentertainment]

That gives another meaning to Peter being the foundation of the church, him being the first Eyewitness to pass on the Gospel, that’s definitely a pivotal accomplishment for the mission.

[@EmilyTodicescu]

Respectfully, it is the _revelation_ of Peter (“You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God”), which serves as the foundation of the church. Not Peter himself.

[@lorenzo_primomo.97]

​@@EmilyTodicescu Respectfully, the vast majority of the Early Church Fathers disagree with your statement.

[@EmilyTodicescu]

@@lorenzo_primomo.97 Lange’s Commentary on the Holy Scriptures (p. 296) quotes Augustine as saying: “The rock is not so named from Peter, but Peter from the rock (non enim a Petro petra, sed Petrus a petra), even as Christ is not so called after the Christian, but the Christian after Christ. For the reason why the Lord says, ‘On this rock I will build my church,’ is that Peter had said: ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ On this rock, which thou hast confessed, says he, I will build my church. For Christ was the rock (petra enim erat Christus), upon which also Peter himself was built; for other foundation can no man lay, than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” - Translated and edited by P. Schaff, 1976.

[@el_killorcure]

​@@EmilyTodicescuNice try. Only the RCC and Orthodoxy share in this authority for both having direct apostolic succession from Peter himself.

[@joshd3502]

@@el_killorcure Because of the schism in the 1517 authority is lost? What about the schism in 1054? Who had the authority? Rome or the rest of the church?

[@King_Zilla]

What're your thoughts on the transcendental argument for the existence of God?

[@JesusPerez-wd3tq]

Best argument in my opinion

[@JesusPerez-wd3tq]

Jay dyer has done hours of lectures on this its quite a unique argument if i had to rank it from 1-10 id say 9 my only problem is it just points to diesm not the christian god jay has attempted to make it point to the christian god but idk im just a slowboi so maybe im misssing something but yeah jay has proved the TAG is a killer argument

[@JesusPerez-wd3tq]

Id say IPs emergent universe argument is my second favorite argument it has potential i hope he does more on this after the reliability of the gospels

[@sjappiyah4071]

Love these in depth videos

[@mysotiras21]

Yes, Mark gave us Peter's eyewitness account of Jesus. Suck it up, skeptics!

[@EmilyTodicescu]

I think many who are reading the Scriptures today have conveniently forgotten what life was like before the Internet, or even the printing press, and that it would have been impossible for these Biblical authors to mimic the minutiae/particulars of first-century Judaea.

[@Dominik-t1d]

Question: will you ever make a video on the transcendental argument?

[@FreeLevant-b1d]

Great video. I think that (i) the unanimous testimony of the Church fathers (including Papias who was collecting his information when some disciples of Jesus were still alive- Aristion and John the Elder) and (ii) the extensive internal evidence (the names correctly reflecting 1st Century Judea, the listing of the 12 disciples by name, the specific naming of a few not so relevant individuals for no particular reason other than seemingly because these persons were known- e.g., Simon of Cyrene father of Alexander and Rufus, the early semitism in some passages suggesting authentic sayings, the description of Jewish customs pre-70AD, not mentioning the destruction of the Temple, the relative modest claims about Jesus travels - as opposed to Apollonius of Tyana who traveled to Rome, India, and Spain according to Philostratus, etc.) both point toward the very probable fact that Mark was an early Gospel written by an eyewitness of Peter.

[@nemrodx2185]

Awesome!!!

[@KostaFatsis]

The information in this video is spot on. This commentator is phenomenal in his knowledge, for this presentation. I’m glad I subscribed. Amen

[@njabulo.]

@inspiringPhilosophy Hey brother, is there a video or link to an article you can point me to that deals with figuring out the dating of other epistles apart from the Pauline epistles? If possible the Old Testament as well. Keep up the good work.

[@InfinityExt]

4:10 He mentions again that the authors of Matthew and Luke used Mark. It's very interesting that neither of those texts ever mention their sources. Even in Acts, when John Mark (who may or may not be the same Mark that supposedly wrote the gospel) is mentioned, it never mentions that this person wrote the primary source of the gospel.

[@perfectpeace00]

The sources of the gospels come from the writers of early church fathers.

[@midimusicforever]

Mark is just SO legit!

[@christianblack9426]

Hey, Michael! You should do a video about whether or not verses 9-20 should be included in Mark 16, and whether or not they are accurate, and written by Mark. All sorts of Bibles now are counting those verses out, either bracketing them, or discluding them from the text. And when those verses are removed, there are no post-resurrection appearances of Jesus recorded in the gospel.

[@KaiGallagher7]

Can you make more videos on mythvision arguments?

[@StandOnTruth2010]

Great job presenting the case for your positon. Very comprehensive. My only let down was that the video didnt conclude with a brief polemic on the arguments that Mark is not based on eyewitness accounts.

[@ccayadi1]

this is really important information giving credits to authenticity of the writer knowledge on history.

[@InfinityExt]

3:40 He gives a number of attestations from Irenaeus and later authors, which is fine. Now he displays the text where Eusebius cites Papias. The problem here is that nothing connects the claims of Papias to the gospel of Mark as we know it. The description given in this citation doesn't match with the gospel of Mark, and he never even mentions that it would be about a gospel at all. Papias could be talking about a completely different document here. All we can do is speculate.

[@josephsampa8131]

Love this video. God bless you. Since you have starting engaging Islam, can we expect some videos on Christianity and Islam?

[@BabyBilliesBibleBonkers]

Uh, Crossley is and Casey was an atheist so they obviously don't believe any of the supernatural stuff was actually eyewitnessed by anyone. Casey makes this clear in his book Jesus of Nazareth. You make it seem like everything Mark wrote came from Peter but these scholars do not actually endorse that position.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

I never said that. Don’t put words in my mouth.

[@BabyBilliesBibleBonkers]

@@InspiringPhilosophy Again, you use them to support Mark's gospel being largely dependent on Peter's testimony. Casey explicitly denies this. Also, how does the source being written in Aramaic show it's true? Fiction or mistaken beliefs can be written in any language.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

No, I used a mix of scholars. I only used Casey on the passages he cited, which were on screen.

[@BabyBilliesBibleBonkers]

@@InspiringPhilosophy What was the point of citing "Aramaic sources" if you weren't trying to make the connection to the Aramaic speaking Peter?

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

I obviously was. But remember my argument for that section was two-fold. If Casey notes the Aramaic sources came from a member of the 12 and unanimous church tradition is that Mark’s source was Peter then the simplest explanation is Peter is Mark’s source. Casey doesn’t go that far but I added additional details to support the inference.

[@briandiehl9257]

Since I am early I guess I can ask and see what other people think. Do you guys think we will ever discover any of the lost early Christian texts, like the works of Papius, Evodius, or the gospel to the Hebrews?

[@alphahuner1116]

Not sure, but here's to hoping!

[@TheOmniGameDev]

​@@alphahuner1116I feel like discovering Papius or Evodous' work would do so much towards destroying all the skeptics arguments

[@alphahuner1116]

@@TheOmniGameDev If any of their copies or extras are found.

[@TheOmniGameDev]

​@@alphahuner1116yeah, it would also be interesting considering these works are supposed to contain biographical information about Jesus and authentic teachings not in the bible, so I wonder how it would change Christianity

[@alphahuner1116]

​@@TheOmniGameDevOne way to find out

[@Wmwkm-r6c]

What do you think of kamil Gregor and his criticisms against your arguments of the empty tomb

[@InfinityExt]

3:00 IP cites Craig Evans's claim about Justin Martyr. Justin talks about the memoirs of the apostles, and Evans claims that this connects them to known personalities. It doesn't. They would be linkede to known personalities if Justin actually attributed them to individual authors.

[@SomeoneYouMayKnow]

@Inspiring Philosophy, Any thoughts on the church tradition that identifies the rich young ruler as Mark?

[@boltvanderhuge4007]

Gundry wrote that Matthew portrays Peter as an apostate, who was ultimately lost. What do you make of that?

[@InfinityExt]

1:25 He claims that there is no indication that they were ever thought of as anonymous biographies. This isn't necessarily true. The earliest citations from the Didache and Justin Martyr refer to them anonymously.

[@No-ch6fp]

The didache dosnt refer to mark and justin calls mark memoirs of peter

[@mnkyfly]

Great work

[@HauntedStopwatch]

Inspiring philosophy, i have a question it is about the oxyrhynchus papyri? How much funding do you think it would take to transcribed the 495,000 that are left?

[@dominikdurkovsky8318]

Question: are you gonna do the same with the other 3 gospels?

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Yes

[@dominikdurkovsky8318]

@@InspiringPhilosophy niice.

[@motiveyeseyecare3481]

The Coptic Church, which was founded by Mark the Evangelist, holds the tradition that Mark was himself an eyewitness. Mark is equated with John Mark, he is said to be the man with rhe pitcher who's home was where the Last Supper took place, the man who ran from Gethsemane naked, and one of the 70 apostles. He is titled the "Beholder of God" for this reason because there was early opposition to Mark being an eyewitness which was evident in the writing of Eusebius who quotes Papias (who quotes John the Elder) stating Mark did not see Christ. This is only attested to in Eusebius, and while it may be reliable as an accurate quote from Papias quoting the Elder, it should be noted that Eusebius stood opposed to Athanasius (Coptic Pope) several times during the Arian controversy and may have had motive to discredit the see of Alexandria. Of course that's speculation.

[@Thejjay005]

Great video, very strong and objective case made from a lot of research, thank you

[@InfinityExt]

1:15 IP claims that there is unanimous agreement from the church fathers that the gospel authors are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. There are two problems with this claim. The first problem is that he displays a table from Gathercole, but that table is unreasonable optimistic with attestations. The second problem is the biggest problem, namely selection bias. He explicitly mentions the term 'church fathers', which by definition excludes people that were later considered heretics. For example, we know that Marcion rejected Lukan authorship of the gospel of Luke, but since people later declared him to be a heretic (he was not declared a heretic during his lifetime, and was far more influential then almost all of the people/texts in Gathercole's list), his testimony is thrown out. Rejecting any of the canonical gospels was sufficient ground for later Christians to declare someone a heretic, so if someone rejected traditional authorship, they would almost certainly not be regarded as a church father. This makes the claim circular. There is another type of selection bias going on that doesn't come from IP, but from scribal activity over a thousand years ago. If we find a ninth century manuscript of a second century text, that means it must be copied in the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth century. That only happens if the people who pay scribes consider the text to be worthy of copying. Thus, if there is a text that rejects traditional authorship, we really shouldn't expect to find any manuscripts of it.

[@ermin2248]

Marcion was declared a heretic during his own life.

[@DavidRrasi-oz4tq]

The gospel authors also quote the Scriptures multiple times and are also aware of the geography of the country indicating the biographies are based on eyewitnesses.

[@BabyBilliesBibleBonkers]

3:45 all of the sources just cited were dependent on Papias....

[@Kakaragi]

Might you cover the longer and shorter endings of Mark?

[@angbandsbane]

A very interesting video. Does anyone know if IP has ever done anything on the "Secret Gospel of Mark"? (I looked but didnt see anything)

[@hextoken]

Sceptics are continually wrong. Archeology is just one trend that keeps proving the Bible.

[@KasperKatje]

Archaeology doesn't prove a single supernatural claim. New York doesn't prove Spider-Man is real...

[@Commanderhurtz1]

@@KasperKatje I would argue the prophecies that have come true, such as the reformation of Israel exactly how the Bible describes, is proof enough.

[@Greyz174]

@@Commanderhurtz1 prophecies without a time limit that people are trying over and over to fulfill arent so impressive. What exact details did you have in mind?

[@whatwecalllife7034]

Well archeology is demonstrating SOME parts of the Bible being accurate and at the same time revealing that many other parts are NOT accurate.

[@Commanderhurtz1]

@@Greyz174 " prophecies without a time limit that people are trying over and over to fulfill arent so impressive. " Keep raising the bar, why should a prophecy have a time limit? How about the fact that all the nations that it states will attack&surround Israel are presently being hostile to them, thousands of years later? How about the white Sulphur in the area of Sodom and Gomorrah, along with the evident burnt buildings in the area?

[@asificam1]

I quite like these videos that give tons of really solid info about the Bible and its reliability. I have used these videos to show that the Bible I love to read is actually reliable, most people do not know that the Bible is reliable, most people have not opened a Bible in their life. But if people like skeptics would come to the table with an open mind, they would find that the Bible is reliable, and that indeed, Jesus rose from the dead, thus, He is the Son of God.