Mark & Carrie: Debts Coming Due

[@RedCascadian]

"Workers will upskill!" How? We can barely pay **rent** when working 50-60 hours a week at exhausting labor tracked more closely than the assholes in charge ever were. And they don't want to actually fund programs that will pay workers to learn the skills they need.

[@Kevin-Schmevin]

Well said...

[@matthewstone1362]

They cant make the changes needed. So they make changes that dont make a difference other than to hurt the powerless and voiceless.

[@paulpeterson4216]

I hate it when Economists talk about the Lump of Labor "Fallacy." It's only a fallacy when you consider that, yes, at zero wages (aka slavery) there is a functionally infinite demand for labor. There ABSOLUTELY IS a lump of labor that the oligarchy is willing to pay for, or at least pay for at a wage that people can live on. Automation does not destroy jobs. In an unregulated market automation destroys WAGES. The oligarchs don't want you unemployed, they want you enslaved.

[@breft3416]

For labor, the economics of AI are no different than the unregulated capitalism that got us here. The lobbyists who write the laws 'help' those 80 year olds stay in step and in the black. Seriously, even Reagan's last two years in office he was so obviously demented, it still seems weird to me. Thanks for your stuff!

[@SameAsAnyOtherStranger]

My response to the geriatricification of U.S. politics is that if a person doesn't care about taking it easy in their final years, I really don't want them representing me.

[@igypop.]

Soviet Union's government was younger when CCCP fell apart, let that tell you everything..

[@shaunmcisaac782]

19:00 Mark, you missed that when the economic S.H.T.F. from a true default, you'll have a country with more than 1 gun per person that suddenly can't feed itself for no good reason. So, that'll make for a good piece of historical fiction in the year 3527 when "What the Hell Were the Americans Thinking" hits the Holo-Theaters.

[@valdomero738]

Americans have the global reserve currency. 50% of their prosperi6comes from that.

[@charlierodriguez8489]

Weird, I'm voting for RFK even if Trump might win.

[@alfred-vz8ti]

so nice to hear educated usans chatting about the processes of 'american democracy.' it strengthens my opinion that homo sapiens has no future.

[@JanusKastin]

A gerentocracy makes me think of what Christopher Hitchens referred to as " a necrocracy, or perhaps a thanotocracy."

[@homerbeer943]

I'm a big fan of mark but this format where they laugh about how the world's going to shit doesn't really do it for me.

[@kikolatulipe]

The government, a bunch of 80 years old !!! They are going to protect us from AI ! Hahahahah

[@tshackelton]

There actually is a great precedent we should be following for AI, human cloning... We heard the same arguments (china will do it anyways, etc... ). We have reached a point that were certain things just aren't worth the risks to satisfy "scientific curiosity"... at least until it's better understood. Messing with the human genome, maybe risky gain of function experiments, and AGI is another.

[@justcommenting4981]

That's not how it works. There is no closing the box. It's like gravity. Understanding is reached through experimentation and understanding or the path to it can't be stopped by any peaceful mechanism. It is a property of the universe. Like life itself, only cataclysm can stop it.

[@madshorn5826]

My take is we should give anything with consciousness human rights (yes, we will need a new name here). This will motivate the billionaires to steer well clear of truly autonomous systems as there is no chance in hell they'd pay wages and give free time and vacation to AIs. And China will steer clear of conscious machines as they are far easier to control and they won't want to lose face over yet more human rights violations. We would also avoid another embarrassing slavery situation down the road. So it is a win win win, if the politicians can act preemptively for once.

[@Anthonylonliano69]

I think yin's are sleeping on RFK Jr

[@stephenphillips6245]

At about 8.30 mins in Mark sort of sounds like Scotish Kermit the frog...LoL

[@direwolf6234]

the list of 'troubles & issues' somehow left out the daily mass shootings across the country and the inability to get the repubs pro-lifers to stop being obstructionists ...

[@Jeffberg42]

It is NOT unclear at all. DiFi's chief of staff enjoys being Senator.

[@yclept9]

Coleridge wrote that a conflict of interest is the pulley on which good character is hoist into public view.

[@donnagray9579]

A Gerontocracy is not a good outcome.

[@stavroskarageorgis4804]

What does Carrie bring to this podcast?

[@jonrolfson1686]

The tang-toungled democratic everywoman’s perspective - darkly amusing.

[@stavroskarageorgis4804]

@@jonrolfson1686 I don't know what "tang-toungled" means but I presume it's not a compliment. 8 just don't find either her commentary or her analyses in any way useful, thought-provoking, or even interesting. Epidermic, at best!

[@jonrolfson1686]

@@stavroskarageorgis4804 Sorry; failed joke. Just swap the vowels about to get tongue-tangled.

[@valdomero738]

She's the cringe to counteract how based Mark is. We need her.

[@antonymossop3135]

Surely it's 'remacle' (etymology: cojoin of remake and debacle)...

[@robertbritt6134]

My understanding is that if Feinstein resigns, the Repulsivekins can still block a replacement on the committee. So…

[@PikachooUpYou]

RFK Jnr?

[@stephenphillips6245]

As for the criticism of social funding...people don't understand that every dollar spent creates the multipler effect that has 4 dollars of impact. Versus tax cuts for the rich that get held and never spent...caise they can only own so many boats /cars. I guess they could buy more houses poor people cant afford to live in.

[@barkobama7385]

If you want a booming economy give poor people money. Trickle up economics works, as Henry Ford knew.

[@stephenphillips6245]

@@barkobama7385 Apparently, the Dodges blocked Ford from raising the pay of employees....said it was against shareholder interest.

[@barkobama7385]

And Reaganomics promised to rebuild the middle class. Been repackaging trickle down for a century and a half and it's yet to yield anything but more concentrated wealth. It's almost starting to seem like maybe it's not being proposed in good faith...

[@stephenphillips6245]

@@barkobama7385 In BC the, Neoconservative, Liberals cut healthcare and education to get a 2 billion tax cut to the rich, in the 2000s, and that is why we didn't have enough hospitals and trained staff during the pandemic. Plus, schooling and housing is so unaffordable that people can't work where they live ...LoL Gordon Campbell, same BC Liberals, also made a 5$ training wage (500hrs) and said 12 year olds could work that training wage.

[@yinyangxperience5137]

Why arent you guys putting out videos every 2 weeks. Can you let us know?

[@valdomero738]

The meatball has zero chances of winning the nomination

[@kangaroo1888]

Thanks I am now embarrassed to be old 😢

[@cyberslim7955]

How can social security systems in rich countries work, when we get older, lazier, retire earlier, work less, without AI bringing a massive boost to productivity???

[@kikolatulipe]

« Total yahoo » ? What does it mean ? Hahahah

[@jimmythecactus475]

DIANNE!

[@benjaminhenderson5025]

Lol, you talk about partisanship after dismissing both Bidens primary challengers like a total DNC tool.

[@leealexander3507]

I would prefer Marianne Williamson 😊

[@stanstreatfield3485]

Sort of becoming skeptical about Mark Blyth. His statement that there aren't any other candidates running against Biden. This is just untrue, JFK jr and Marriane Williamson are running and the fact that Bythe lies about this is a bit worrying . Whether you think they are serious is a different matter , they are running and I think some of the things they are saying need to be heard.

[@ItsMe-on6tt]

Let’s keep it real, there will only be two real candidates in this election, Mark is just keeping it real

[@nonenone5387]

First

[@kornaktanker7633]

real talk, it is cool

[@Jeffberg42]

Dedollarization is not happening? Really? That's like saying it's no big deal that Syrya Hezbollah Iran and Saudi Arabia allying is 'no biggie'. Lord.

[@fatdaddy1996]

No it's massively more important than that. De-dollarisation is literally a paradigm shift.

[@lukejolley8354]

I used to love listening to Mark's presentations and podcasts, but this podcast now sounds completely partisan. It's ok to be biased, everyone has biases, but this just sounds like a presentation by the Democratic National Committee. I'm Canadian and I have political biases, but I try not to let my ideas and opinions line up completely behind one party or another. I still listen to the show by the way because I don't want to live in a media echo-chamber where I only hear one side of the story (and Mark is a humorous chap).

[@phaneros]

As a fellow Canadian watching the disaster unfold across the border, I have to disagree. The US seems to have gone the way of having two parties: the bad one, and the genocidal monster party. If you go in with the basic moral assumptions of "killing people bad", "rights good", and "democracy good", then the Democratic party is the only option, even with all their faults. Kind of funny to think they only have one realistic democratic option, currently with only one realistic proposed candidate for the next presidency; it opens the door to a lot of questions about whether a one-party democracy is still a democracy, and it sure makes me appreciate having three big parties a lot more. Edit: I should note that the "killing people bad" assumption kind of rules out both parties. Republicans still seem to be a little worse about it overall and much worse about it when it comes to their own citizens.

[@9000ck]

So basically there is a massive chance the world is going to go tits up. The AI thing is a bit concerning; especially autonomous weaponry. And AI is learning exponentially.

[@sandworm9528]

What do you mean learning exponentially. You realise it's a statistical prediction of the next word in a sentence