Mark Cuban: Shark Tank, DEI & Wokeism Debate, Elon Musk, Politics & Drugs | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Listening: listening.com/lex and use code LEX to get one month free - Cloaked: cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off - Notion: notion.com/lex - Eight Sleep: eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial 0:54 - Entrepreneurship 15:48 - Shark Tank 26:13 - How Mark made first billion 52:24 - Dallas Mavericks 57:49 - DEI debate 1:33:42 - Trump vs Biden 1:36:04 - Immigration 1:45:37 - Drugs and Big Pharma 2:01:38 - AI 2:05:49 - Advice for young people

[@VintageBassArchive]

I'm happy you are friends with destiny

[@VintageBassArchive]

Destiny debates REAL nazi like James allsup.... you sound further left than destiny @allenrouse7443

[@radhakrishnanmanickavasaga124]

Waiting for Sundar pichai and satya nadella

[@deejay7339]

Mark looks like g-man in the thumbnail

[@MUSTAFADINCER-ek7tp]

TÜRKİYE İZMİR GOD BLESS YOU

[@theMidsizeLebowski]

Regardless of what you think of Mark Cuban or anything he said here, the fact that he created Cost Plus Drugs is a gift to humanity.

[@ABitefLife]

It blows my mind that so many people are so hateful of him when he is in fact doing something positive in a sector that is so corrupt and powerful , just because he isn’t a Elon/Trump goon …. His advocacy for fairness and transparency in such a brutally restrictive and self serving corporate interest sector should be celebrated and appreciated not torn down and bad mouthed because he has a different political leaning than you . Yet another reason why I despise two party politics . Its near impossible for anything good to be fought for when the total aims are for destruction of the other side

[@GoodVibesPresident]

He lies a lot in this video.

[@GoodVibesPresident]

This is a dishonest interview.

[@lukeb3930]

Agreed 👍💯

[@writemeyers]

None of his detractors would've started Cost Plus Drugs because this imaginary tidal wave of "shitty people" might benefit from them.

[@JBengaIII]

It is not Reverse Discrimination, it is just Discrimination.

[@milehighyt2097]

Exactly

[@upvotecomment2110]

DEI racism with extra steps

[@DonG-1949]

You Sound Even Woker Then Libs, When I Grew Up We Didnt Call "It" Nothing Because We Just Lived In Harmany No One Was Racist Any More Then Obama And His Puppet Joe Made Every One Woke On Purpose Because Its About Control. Look It Up

[@FastAndEasy2010]

Give me an example of dei being racist

[@jamie_uncensored]

I don't think "Reverse Discrimination" is possible, is it? I mean really, is it?

[@RogelioGalvan-c7z]

Great work from both men. Lex has done his HW. Mark is intelligent without pretentiousness. The fact that we can "all" access this is a gift.

[@thalanoth]

"all" hahaha too much truth

[@koju737]

I've worked as a pharmacy technician for 11 years and it feels so good to see someone with influence illuminate how fucked up the drug business is. Everything he said is completely true and not some isolated thing. If nothing else, this is such great work from Mark.

[@Singlebarrel2323]

Yeah. Mark fucking Cuban is trying to help poor people. I understand this is a personally important topic for you but you can’t be that stupid

[@Singlebarrel2323]

It’s just a business that makes him money and creates an image that he is doing it for humanity. It’s the same shit as bill gates. Claims to do everything for humanity but is the biggest monocrop agriculturist in history. He’s destroying our farm land while y’all praise him for supporting the jab. Why can’t people see through the Rockefeller propaganda billionaires use 😂

[@allieflounder5764]

Totally agree. People want to hate on him because he may disagree with them. It’s weak because he is honest and does good. Nobody trusts anyone anymore and it’s sad.

[@AfroGaz71]

​​@@allieflounder5764there is very little in the way of truth coming from him. Nobody is tarnishing his name. He did that all by himself with some truely ignorant takes.

[@JohnnyYork]

Pointing out how obviously broken it is deserves praise - so one can simply profit (like Mark Cuban) is, does not. Him pretending to care is simply part of his business plan pitch.

[@mikemma6695]

Lex been working overtime lately with these guests. Crazy how far he’s come as a podcast/interviewer

[@shalomedome1614]

It’s all pre meditated

[@travisvadnais1853]

​@@shalomedome1614 What you saying it is all an acted then ?

[@travisvadnais1853]

Have you listened to he's first episode on Joe Rogan podcast. Lex is a smart person.

[@sandrawilliams4874]

I think he's working extra hard right now before he goes on his trip to the Amazon Rainforest!

[@holyfook1238]

​@JS71.s That's funny you're literally just mad because he created networks for himself. I can tell you live a sad life.

[@alexandrebittencourttande3264]

Wow! Really liked this interview! I think Lex is the best in the business right now! He seems to have a way to touch on important points without having to force them on the person being interviewd. It is more like a conversation and, weather you agree or not, it is done in a direct way, cutting to the chase in many topics, but still maintaining comfort tone both to the interviwee (is that a word?) as to the viewers. Well done!

[@acasualviewer5861]

Its how the old time journalists in the 80s were... nowadays all of the interviewers badger their guests with their own opinions... Lex just interviews one guy with one opinion, then later a guy with the opposite opinion. And lets them explain themselves fully. I end up respecting both of the interviewees regardless if I agree with their opinion or not. At least I can see where they're coming from.

[@ruthb8101]

He’s got great ego control, he’s genuine, and allows for organic conversation. He’s a rare podcaster in that he doesn’t need to hear himself speak nonstop. He’s a great listener and he engages conversationally.

[@mcdiesel7505]

@@acasualviewer5861 Lies

[@Mohamed_lmo28]

Yes, him and Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan are the best

[@WorldMover]

@@Mohamed_lmo28rogan is trash

[@SECRETPURPOSE]

Lex on DEI: "The shitty people don't get fired." Yes.

[@Steven_Edwards]

So the implication is that all the non-white males are shitty performers...

[@DieTryingK]

In what world does this happen LOL? Like literally you are BRAINWASHED. You think you can do a shitty job andjust keep your job cos your black? LMFAO Please show me which job so i can sign up right away.

[@kcmark3]

Reality: white male CEOs making 10+ million per year and their corporation isn't making money and\or losing money You: the janitor is black and that's not right

[@christominded4726]

The new mindset in corporate America is to focus on the employees strengths even though he or she is toxic.

[@jdbroders64]

DEI by design is anti-white racism. Full stop.

[@userXm7-xm7bz8ki4s]

That Cost Plus Drugs segment was fascinating

[@mtb_carolina]

This is such a great interview! Thank you, Lex and Mark, for having a candid conversation (with differing viewpoints on many issues), but staying objective and not getting emotional. The world needs more of this! I learned a lot from each of you, and I think so many valid points were made for us to ponder as a society. 👏👏

[@mtb_carolina]

@JustinWhite- yes, the part about turnover in Trump’s staff, right? That was an interesting and meaningful point! I find it advantageous for us to learn all that we can (factually speaking). We must be radically open-minded and willing to change our minds…About politics and all things in life. Thanks for the comment!

[@misterwallace3479]

You sound like ass kissing corporate guy

[@mcdiesel7505]

​@JustinWhite-Nobody 4 lyfe! No Trump tho! Find another Republican

[@johnsherby9130]

This is my favorite thing about lex. I think lex could interview putin and Kim jong un and barely even show a difference in views. He seems to be as objective as possible when interviewing

[@Esantiago819]

Thanks Lex, for the awesome interview with Mark Cuban. Your dedication to delivering thought-provoking content on your podcast is truly appreciated 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@loppyloud77]

Lex, you’re so damn good at what you do. Appreciate you brother! 🤙🏽

[@JB-ty8vf]

Lex, the quote you gave at the end that you attributed to Oscar Wilde is actually from Francis Bacon.

[@alexanderprivate7233]

As in "bake-on" these nuts?

[@kyleschuette1667]

Even before DEI mediocre employees weren't getting fired. I don't understand why that's an argument against it at all. Much of employment is about a balance of networking and actual skills. If you lack either you are much less likely to succeed in a career.

[@AD-sh4rw]

By networking you mean being fake and kissing ass right

[@asapomi]

Such a great podcast, I might not agree with Mark on some topics but I need to give it to him that he is such a sharp guy and great speaker. It was a pleasure to listen to him for 2 hours

[@flamewave0]

You should be judging man by his action not by his words and Mark proves that he is one of it’s kind brilliant human being. He puts many billions philanthropist into shame. Such a wholesome human being it was pleasure to listen to him. More interviews like this please.

[@jenknippenberg9277]

Kudos to you Lex. This was a great interview. I appreciate that you are open to interviews with people having a variety of views-that is how we grow both as individually and as a society. In order to make informed decisions, one needs to gather all information available, look at both sides of the fence, and ultimately support which is best for society.

[@erikERXON]

...and that is how we fall. enjoy the poverty and disorder.

[@idatong976]

What a great conversation with Mark Cuban! I love his optimism. He's a happy man who's rich inside out! And thank you Lex for this rich experience. Love it!❤

[@Jack-eo5fn]

You nailed it.

[@Frederick0220]

LOL at Cuban calling Dylan Mulvaney "Dylan McDermott" lolololol

[@starion88esir]

I have to know what McDermott did to Cuban at some point. He would not waiver. 😂😂😂

[@Frederick0220]

@@starion88esir McDemott had to have plowed Cuban's wife or something! Cuban literally called Mulvaney the wrong name a good 7x after Lex pointed out that his/her last name was Mulvaney, not McDermott.

[@JeromeO17]

Thank you for the cost plus drug program. The cost of so many other medical consumables is insane. So is the cost of health care in the US. Food for thought for areas to expand into.

[@jeffhaynes1643]

Really good respectful conversation between two highly intelligent people.

[@rwwilson75]

Thank You for providing alternative views! You have helped me get away from the negative conspiracies of the right. I feel a lot better about our future!

[@Howie_2114]

Putting out some bangers lex keep it up!

[@MC-ru1jv]

I think that most people on both sides truly want what's best for everyone but have different beliefs on how we do that and agree that implementation is often flawed. Some issues are certainly more polarized than others (i.e. when does human life begin?). Those are harder to achieve compromise. There also seems to be a lot of hypocrisy on both sides. Glad some people can have grown up conversations and discuss their positions without hyperbolic rhetoric that is so prevalent on social media. Thank you Lex for providing this forum!

[@DavidSaintloth]

The problem is for the individuals who are vocally standing on an anti-woke platform. The real racists of the past are hard to distinguish from their own argument and they get frustrated at being called what appears obvious to everyone else.

[@Thnkrgames]

Most people do not want whats best for everyone, most people want what's best of themselves. This is evidence by their actual behavior

[@charlesgallagher1376]

The Bible says life begins with the first breath, “The Breath of Life.”

[@Jack-eo5fn]

@@charlesgallagher1376correct. That’s the Jewish belief about reproduction. And I agree.

[@ethanteige]

Honestly, if Mark Cuban runs for the presidency, I would vote for him hands down. Knows how to delegate, cares about and actually understands the average American, knows his strengths and weaknesses, and is clearly humble and honest. Such a breath of fresh air from our current leaders, Dems and Republicans alike 🙏 an honest to god, down to earth billionaire, which is disappointingly rare

[@natchezbone]

Okay guy….. 🤡

[@ethanteige]

@@natchezbone let’s gooooo I finally get a heckler message on KZbin. How does it feel, I got party poppers outside for ya, like new years party poppers. Or maybe you’re more of a little tank firework kinda guy.

[@gcburns4]

I think he's a bit of a douchey chotch. Not as much as Bezos or Trump, but Elon is 100x better. And that's not because of politics, but philosophy, practicality and transparency.

[@randomoofkingstuff2174]

let me join the heckler train. clown 🤡

[@DBRX5]

As much as I don't agree with his politics I think he would make an objectively good head of state

[@loveteamsports]

A Russian and a Cuban sit down for a conversation lol

[@davefischer2344]

Lmfao

[@barnsnoble3105]

Two Russian jews sit down for a conversation.

[@user-bq6vh9fk8r]

@@barnsnoble3105 accurate

[@chrism.1131]

Mark Cuban for president.

[@makinen06]

u mean 2 smart jews

[@CrossoverFactor]

Completely enjoyed Mark. Still no-nonsense and smart. Like his practical work ethic too.

[@shrikarmadhu2776]

Sales = Helping! selling is same as helping someone with what they would want. Wow that alone is such a powerful intuition, GG bigman. Great takeaway right there.

[@DonaldGreer84]

You never know how out of touch with reality a person is until you hear them in this kinda long form conversation

[@Johncandy25]

I love long form. Good or bad it gives a person an opportunity to reveal themselves . The political debate format has to be changed. Asking the most complicated questions and then saying “you have 30 seconds” is a waste of everyone’s time and outdated.

[@mcdiesel7505]

Mark is not out of touch

[@DavidSaintloth]

If you are implying passive aggressively that Mark is out of touch then you missed the entire point of much of his insights. Here: " Twitter is not real life."

[@ColeQuortrup]

My thoughts exactly. This interview really surprised me.

[@brockgan8941]

He is misguided on several things in this podcast, especially on the DEI stuff. But he is certainly not out of touch.

[@jwsaul]

I watch Lex on KZbin on my TV. It takes time to get on my PC and comment, I seldom do and have never posted here before. I watch many of Lex's interviews, but have never had the desire to comment enough to actually jump in. This interview with Mark Cuban was excellent, the most timely and important interview I have seen here. It changed my perception of Cuban and my perception of Lex. One thing that bothered me was the non inclusion of Cuban's deal with gambling. How does that fit in his desire to do good? Why was it left out of the interview?

[@jannichi6431]

Thanks Lex for memory road with Mark Cuban of early tech successes, especially in Cali & Texas! Exciting and dynamicTimes!

[@tonybowen455]

Lex, this one is already crazy good. Thanks again!

[@tonybowen455]

Just finished it. So good. Great chemistry!

[@TheNegaMatt]

Lex one discussing politics involving Biden: loves anecdotal data Lex discussing Elon: I hate anecdotal data

[@brockgan8941]

He is a flawed human. Thanks for pointing this out.

[@jesusavila452]

This was another good one. Makes me wish I was smart. But the next best thing is I have hearing and I can hear smart people wanting and doing good things. And to hear a super rich person that seems to want good for all to make this a better world.

[@247todo3]

Really enjoyed that! Mark is a interesting individual!!! Living the dream! Mahalo nui 🙏🏽🤙🏽🌺

[@andersmller8516]

For a smart guy, he is surprisingly ignorant of how DEI works in most companies. Also, he keeps asking "who is forcing you". Just see what happened to James Damore

[@rosegarden3686]

this was an awesome conversation ~ thanks to you both !!!

[@bayard68]

I don't know if you'll ever read this but Lex we love you. You are a fantastic human being. Thanks for existing!

[@tagtv]

Agreed, what a great bloke he is.

[@sheawright5502]

This was a wonderful conversation to listen to. Mark and Lex were both insightful on their own, and respectful and curious even when arguing. I think its pretty clear that mark will run for pres in 2028, and I would love to hear more discussion about that in the future from both sides

[@shanacollins3865]

Mark is ultimate. Liked his analogy of DEC, that was my olden days, David Cutler, VMS, and the " All in One", even the Rainbow PC. Mark has such a mature attitude and insight for the future. Informative interview!

[@jerryschen]

I've just watched the first 5 min so far, but I love how Lex tries to probe at the questions we want to know the answer to... "What is selling? How do I sell? Are you born with it, or can you learn it?"

[@hipreference]

Imagine trying to argue that "the free market will course correct" while simultaneously shitting on any efforts by the markets to course correct

[@claudioperlini7577]

Thank you for this interview, the conversation was really insightful! 🙏

[@jnc07res]

IMO, Mark Cuban isn't nearly as fascinating or talented as publicly submitted. I mean, he was a geek who scored perfectly back in the halcyon days of the early tech 2000's. He should simply consider himself as such, but in the lonely confines of wealth, one becomes somewhat compensatory, attempting to make up for all that luck.

[@sweeepzone5155]

When he said if he was starting right now from nothing, he could build a million dollar company because he's a good salesman, etc. I thought that's fair enough that he probably could. But then he goes further and says he could most likely build a $100m+ company as if it was just easy. And that's when you know he's a bit out of touch. If you work hard, are charismatic, and get some lucky breaks, you can be quite wealthy. But $100ms takes all that and big opportunities that HAVE to come your way

[@justincalhoun7062]

It’s a shame your opinion isn’t worth anything 🙁

[@jnc07res]

@@justincalhoun7062 I hear your mom calling... something about your dinner being ready.

[@justincalhoun7062]

@@jnc07res durrrrr good one

[@brockgan8941]

He does consider himself as such. He says like 15 times how much of his success was due to that luck.

[@danwright39]

Please interview Andrew Gentile from "The Why Files" sometime! Love your podcasts, Lex.

[@guillaumebarrette9040]

All hail Hecklefish

[@travisvadnais1853]

Yeah you should love the why files

[@debrabunger9302]

Wearing a Hecklefish t-shirt right now!

[@gurunugget]

Is this a fucking joke? This is just not the platform for that

[@TheJoshestWhite]

Shoot....is THAT his name? Lol

[@HiraSaeed]

Thank you, Mark. Really hopeful for the world because people like you exist.

[@MichaelHoward-yv2py]

Mark is great. Love his passion for business. I don't agree with him on DEI, but what a straightforward thinker. 100% great episode.

[@enriquecardona1819]

Mark cuben is really good and humble person. I like that he shares his life story without leaving anything out. Good job again lex. You’re getting better and better lex.

[@rainman4516]

WOW!!!!

[@cindysuttie7584]

Really enjoy your podcasts Lex when you use your knowledge and intellect to challenge your guests

[@Jane-yj1to]

Always like listening to Mark talk business, great interview. DEI sounds very similar to affirmative action and EEOC, it was cosigned by JFK in the 60s. I feel like I'm in a loop. Here we go again 😮‍💨

[@sushi0085]

A lot of tech companies are typically loaded with Asians and white people. DEI typically don’t apply to them but the other jobs. Kinda funny.

[@shazampowers9909]

As long as majority groups try to isolate and discriminate against minority groups there will be anti-racist groups and likely policy to combat it. They bring it upon themselves and then complain about its existence.

[@koolaidsalad]

He unironically used the terms “reverse racism” and “reverse discrimination” in a serious discussion. Inexcusable behavior

[@elmerbeltshire7599]

The level of determination people have in re-implementing failed socio-economic experiments never fails to baffle me.

[@jannichi6431]

Best comment so far, what a waste of time...just for rehashed clicks. Only one party can't seem to get out of the past or have an original thought wanting a solution! Race is NOT an issue to well traveled youngsters! America is creating it's own problems from within. Let's UNITE..globally🌎🌍

[@mikekimmel9744]

1:32:40 - Cuban says 'but it was a time of war', referencing what happened in Nazi Germany. To fill out his position a bit, humans are capable of atrocities, certainly, but only in extreme circumstances, such as during war. It is true that human behavior depends on context in this way, but that behavior was murdering millions of people. However, the point being debated in this interview is whether a situation could develop where minors are able to access gender transition surgery. Could all the parties necessary for surgeries to take place be complicit in transitioning a 14 year (who is probably not mature enough to make such a life-changing decision)? Well, the context is not wartime. But we are talking about gender transition, not murder. To Lex's point, in the shorter term (5 years or so), I think beliefs could shift enough. Also, consider that the behavior of all the different parties depend on each other, such that if one stakeholder group, for example, insurance companies, shifts to support the practice, the other groups (hospitals, doctors, etc.) are likely to follow suit.

[@freyna]

Thank you mark and lex for trying to listen and giving mark the space to speak

[@ecgolds]

Still in the middle of the interview but did anyone catch "Dylan McDermott" lol

[@southernappalachianrecon]

Yeah like 3 times. Mark Cuban doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@Jack-eo5fn]

@@southernappalachianrecon, really? Tell us how many Cuban successes you’ve racked up in your life? I’m waiting.

[@30Secondzzz]

It's crazy how stupid a smart person can be once compromised

[@aliceglado]

God you soft little incels.

[@buckchile614]

Unprecedented!

[@lyricofwise6894]

Easy example is Elon

[@30Secondzzz]

@@lyricofwise6894 nah Cuban takes the crown

[@lakedawg2462]

@@30Secondzzz Cubans jawline looks like he has an extra chromosome.

[@pygeekrfoo820]

59:28 His definition of DEI was the weirdest I’ve heard

[@StrollinSodaPops]

1:06:34 lex’s face when this listens to this non answer pour out of Mark’s mouth continuously 😂

[@groovy3443]

Great community you’ve cultivated here btw lex

[@sylviaowega3839]

What Mark say about people getting too attached to a certain platform, political ideal and information is very insightful and true. We should always come in with an open mind and regard everything we hear with a critical eye.

[@ecosystems]

Mark, the biggest selling drug you were speaking about is Abbvie's Humira, Pronounced hu-MARE-ah and not hu-MY-rah as you have been saying. btw, love the whole transparency concept of Cost Plus Drugs. What would be killer is employing a COST team of some Pharma chemists and finance folks to work up the estimated manufacturing cost to manufacture (API, formulation, distribution) the drugs based on market size. See how that could add a deeper layer to the transparancy? And who the hell is "Dillan McDermont"?

[@brockgan8941]

You actually have a fantastic idea. Get a team of synthetic chemists and chemical engineers together and find out what the true cost of the cost is so to speak.

[@GunsPolitics]

Mark Cuban coping

[@Plastic1983]

Thank you interviewing this genius!

[@wittenberg5]

DEI has become such a boogeyman. Harvard is 6 percent black. If half of them are there due to DEI (and regardless of what you may think there are some black people who have the scores to get in) that's 3 percent. Much smaller than legacy admissions which I never hear conservatives complain about. Not much of a factor in jobs either. Being a well connected white male is way better for getting a job than DEI, but you rarely hear people complain about recommendations and referrals as anti meritocratic. DEI is barely a factor. Selective outrage.

[@calimolotov2000]

Lex has transitioned to feeding the right wing fanbase clickbait & manufactured outrage. Its what Rogan did now it’s his turn

[@lyricofwise6894]

​@ScottCovertYou should include the principle of the extremely anti-meritcratic whte "legacy" referrals as well then, which are extremely numerous

[@helloworldcsofficial]

It's clear Lex hates DEI. At least he is honest.

[@robzombie5928]

He'd made it clear he can't stand incompetence and people being hired to meet a quota instead of being excellent for the role is bound to annoy him. He celebrates success by anyone in all fields who merit it.

[@yvonnehyatt8353]

Thanks Lex for having him.🌎 : please listen to the Bruce Lipton

[@ludwigvonsowell5347]

The difference between getting fired for criticizing DEI and criticizing a product at a company is one carries the implication of getting taken to the cleaners in a civil rights lawsuit. IE Tesla when one contractor overheard another seperate contractor say a racial slur and Tesla had to pony up hundreds of millions of dollars.

[@beansdestroyer]

the doj and biden white house has been continually threatening musk with legal action both at tesla and space X. They are absolute fascists

[@Heeroyui752]

Except that doesn't happen at all. People who have problems with DEI will usually add a few more choice slurs with that sentiment, and that's what lands them in HR's office.

[@ludwigvonsowell5347]

@@Heeroyui752 there’s cases around this, IBM, Walmart, and others from the early 2000’s. Where they’d sue for wrongful termination or pay discrimination. And these companies despite winning the cases or even getting them dismissed spent more time in legal fees than the settlements would have been. IBM spent nearly a decade in court fighting one such case and spent mountains more in legal fees than it would’ve cost to settle. This works because the plaintiffs lawyers are paid on contingency a chunk of the settlement vs the defending company has to pay by the hour.

[@schizophrenicghost]

Thank you for introducing me to a great mind. Very refreshing and hopeful. Hate sells but love inspires.

[@__keys]

Hate sells, love inspires. And empty meaningless platitudes are gay

[@phinsup49]

One of the best interviews to date. Never been a fan of Mark Cubans political beliefs but this open my mind up to his business mind. One of the best business minded people of our time.

[@friendo760]

I really wanted to gain legitimate DEI insight that would have me pondering my current stance, but instead found myself to be more steadfast on my viewpoints. Very confirming for me.

[@WayOfTheZombie]

U must be young

[@friendo760]

@@WayOfTheZombieYou must be left handed

[@VayniacStudios-u9d]

@@friendo760 what exactly did this conversation fail to hit for you

[@spudsquad]

Without weighing in on the DEI debate within the comments, its interesting what a hot button issue it is that the most comments and liked comments at the top are by far about DEI. I felt like it was one of many many topics touched, some more substantiative. I can see both sides of the debate, and wish it wasnt such another wedge for everyone to hate on each other.

[@stevem437]

It's because the underlying concept is discrimination based on race, sex, and sexual orientation. It's just done in a way that spins it to make it sound acceptable. I'm all for inclusion, but that shouldn't be something that gets someone a job over another person. It all sounds nice in theory, until you realize Asians who are more qualified with higher test scores, are being denied entry to colleges in favor of less qualified individuals... Simply because of race.

[@StanMAzify]

Great Episode and a great watch, Lex.

[@chitinousbones9230]

Hi Lex, love your videos, I'm a physics and math student (junior undergrad) and your values regarding love, curiosity, and progress are beautiful and I think in much the same way. Keep Doing what you are doing and Goodluck!

[@SingleMaltGamer]

Businesses do not (and should not) exist to implement societal social/cultural change. They exclusively exist to generate profit, they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders - and DEI/ESG is violating this responsibility. ANY spend, headcount, hiring a lesser qualified person for a role, running DEI workshops, etc. is a violation of this responsibility. Shareholders need to start suing - only that will cause change.

[@Rackerintraining]

Dude is a bad a** interviewer. Cuban normally annoys me but, Lex asked the right questions and made the vibe real... Just guys hanging out (should have had a few beers, brotha!)

[@notbloodylikely4817]

I call BS on the whole notion that Shark Tank is a celebration of 'the American Dream'. The idea was taken from the UK's Dragon's Den, which means, by this guy's reasoning, the UK is the true home of the entrepreneur.

[@fullmatthew]

Cuban is awesome. I like how he's rightfully taking Musk to task, and showing us how a real, responsible, and ethical entrepreneur acts in the world.

[@Dan.50]

I'm 50+ and overweight, where do I sign up for the basketball team???

[@chuckleezodiac24]

Mar-a-Lago.

[@Alster763]

WhaT a great conversation, love Mark Cuban

[@ramsayfarran992]

Lex you have now surpassed Charlie Rose and Company, as a serious interviewer. Up there with the best of their time.

[@netizencapet]

The problem is that Lex's purely collaborative model is useful only for letting the public know the larger context of a given figure's thoughts in casual format. We don't get the needed exposition of these characters through their response to better researched, harder questions. I don't mean the rude, interrupting shut-downs of MSM abusive interviewers but questions legitimately in the public interest. The interview with Besoz was a particular and pointed failure in that regard.

[@ShakeNbake48x]

Lex thank you for these interviews! Joe will always be the father of podcast for me but you bring a side of it that is so insightful… can’t thank you enough!

[@lorirodgers9474]

Love this conversation- thank you both.

[@tombaker8445]

Mark is strictly signaling when he stands up for DEI. Then when pushed on the concept he makes up something completely different than what DEI is.

[@BillPowell-zp4up]

Thanks, Lex, for another insightful listen. Don’t agree with everything I heard but I liked the concepts and delivery. Btw, success is not luck.

[@royk.9347]

What I found most impressive about this interview is the seeming breadth that Mark Cuban has over many topics.

[@J52d-g]

DEI is exactly opposite from what mark says. He says it expands the applicant pool. I think it actually restricts it. I already look at everyone when hiring.

[@juancarlosmartinez3621]

Thanks Lex, great interview.

[@saikimayu]

I love how every billionaire's story of how they got rich is just some shit that's illegal now, and what they did is *why* it's illegal lmao. I guess the lesson is to just try to think of something that seems like it would be illegal but isn't, and just be the one that changes that. The problem is that the number of activities remaining that are both novel and legal are pretty sparse. You're not allowed to do anything anymore.

[@billybob7688453]

Yup. Find the loophole, screw everybody else over and only share the wealth with your kin is how the richest families come to exisistence. Oh, and of course go on podcasts and spew some bullshit about rising above the working class.

[@InStevenWeTrust]

You could've got rich as fuck off crypto and shitcoins like doge. If your pursuit is to get rich, this is the easiest and most opportune time than ever. Stay positive.

[@saikimayu]

@@InStevenWeTrust Man don't remind me lol I was this close to buying a few thousand worth of bitcoin in 2010, but everyone thought I was an idiot and talked me out of it. I'm never taking advice from anyone ever again after that.

[@billybob7688453]

@@InStevenWeTrust Yeah go gamble your daddy’s money on shitcoin tell me how that turns out. I’m gonna assume you’re either 15 or you’re so brainwashed that you don’t even value hard work in this country anymore.

[@Jorbz150]

Remember, Sam is VERY concerned about AI, and the government should step in and regulate it..... But he'd also like to make money from it instead of keeping it open.

[@justopinions5919]

The thumbnail of Mark makes him look creepy like a demon lol

[@nikolettsurin8362]

This was amazing, thanks Lex and Mark

[@petereberle]

Mark almost seamed reasonable until he suggested surgery for minors is a sensible idea.

[@Mushohsum]

He explicitly mentioned he believes it should be after 18 and if before, parents would need to agree and then have a conversation with a doctor

[@VayniacStudios-u9d]

@@Mushohsum you can't have conversations with this people no matter how expliclity you state things.

[@Bombbashable]

He's really blind imo. He doesn't get that the DEI ideology has made race central, causing a complete reversal of what it purports to solve.

[@billj4525]

You and Mark are both looking at it incorrectly. If you both took a tiny bit of each other philosophies you would both seeing things more accurately.

[@Bombbashable]

@@billj4525 which is?

[@dopyday402]

has it made it central or is it just one of a hundred factors that play into who gets staffed?

[@Bombbashable]

@@dopyday402 race relations have dramatically declined since 2013

[@dopyday402]

@@Bombbashable didn’t really address my previous question

[@KIAcademyBerlin]

Awesome Interview by the way!

[@MYOB2023]

Cuban's face reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode "The Masks." 👺

[@AskMadden]

Wish you would have asked him how he feels about promoting the voyager crypto exchange

[@davidleung4507]

I am not that well-versed in regards to illegal immigration affecting elections but as far as I know there are states that don't have ID rules so anyone can technically vote there. Also the census will affect how many seats in congress or house or both.

[@emandm1822]

"Selling is helping people" LMFAO!

[@davidbritton5627]

Great interview. Loved the entrepreneurship section

[@gary7196]

You can be fired when you speak up, especially if it's against the DEI construct. Mark, try to go against them in your company and see how long you last.

[@TruthPapi]

Everyone knows that if Cuban runs for President it’s a guaranteed W 🇺🇸

[@beedee4890]

okay, really liking the sound of Mark Cuban...I wonder if he'll run for prez at some point...

[@brettworrallo395]

Cuban hates trump we get it

[@JamesDell-ni9hp]

Cuban earned his first $10 million, Trump started with $10 million out the gates.

[@elfin1358]

​@@JamesDell-ni9hpSo? It's where they end up that's important. I used to like MC, but he's lost me.

[@JamesDell-ni9hp]

@@elfin1358 Is Cuban in and out of court at the moment? Law and order.

[@brettworrallo395]

@@JamesDell-ni9hp whate your point that your a trump hater

[@beansdestroyer]

@@JamesDell-ni9hp you do realize the SEC has brought cuban to court multiple times right?