I went into see my local pro shop and had a club fit done and ended up buying a custom fit set of these felt so sweet to hit yes the top line was very noticeable but once you start hitting them you forget all about it when you see the gains, great review again chaps
@chrisb59862 жыл бұрын
I care a lot less about how the clubs "look in the bag or behind the ball." I just want the ones I can hit most consistently. I love how consistent professional golfers hit and how they can pull the differences out of the equipment.
@hockeysyko12 жыл бұрын
I was testing these out and the 5-iron for me was going 225 I was blown away and they felt so good!
@jimsaddler9422 жыл бұрын
Most of these reviews the KZbinrs talk about how offset the clubs are, and how "chunky" they are, and how thick the toplines are. However, as you prove in this video, you hit all three of these clubs with amazing accuracy. So who would want (other than a professional or scratch golfer) a bladed club that looks so much "prettier" and to their liking, but one that you couldn't hit as well as these clubs? I just don't get it. I play to a 10 handicap and give me all the help and forgiveness I can get in a golf club!
@rickcudmore81562 жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm a 13 hcp and I want all the help and forgiveness also.
@danedwards98942 жыл бұрын
I'm a 9 handicaper and I play cleveland launcher hb
@flea412 жыл бұрын
7 hcp - 21 Apex DCB irons - It just makes sense. Park your ego.
@jimsaddler9422 жыл бұрын
@@flea41 If I won $1500 tomorrow, those would be the only set of clubs I'd buy. Love those clubs! Just a bit beyond my price range.
@jimsaddler9422 жыл бұрын
@Chaz Carrington Yep! I'm 63 and love my "chunky" Callaway Rogues. Offset, and a thick top line and all!
@mattcristino98042 жыл бұрын
You guys have convinced me to purchase the OS Lite. I'm a high handicapper and I think these will help my game alot. I was originally planning on purchasing the APEX DCB's Good review
@loikepalenikonu54892 жыл бұрын
Cobra has been doing that for years with their Fmax Superlite & Airspeed and now Air-X models. The lofts are the exact same in 5, 6, 7 iron but are even more lofted in the 8, 9, PW, and GW compared to the Rogue St Max OS Lite. Swing weight is even lighter as the Rogue ST in graphite is the same as Cobra in steel. The cobra models in graphite are even lighter.
@paulmcgee18672 жыл бұрын
Go Cobra !
@erock10702 жыл бұрын
The f max / Air has won the last two mygolfspy most wanted super game improvement iron category. Think there is something to the weaker lofts.
@dennishough26542 жыл бұрын
I only asked another you tuber a few weeks ago that surely it makes sense to add loft to a game improvement iron. Excellent from Callaway
@al77372 жыл бұрын
Mark, it would be interesting to add on to this review by testing the same lofted 3 clubs to compare against this test of all 3 being 7 irons.
@JDSFLA2 жыл бұрын
I currently use the Callaway Mavrik irons, so sure I would play this type of game improvement irons. However, I don't think there is really any improvement over the Mavrik, so I'm completely happy to stay with them.
@NineEyeRon2 жыл бұрын
I think clubs like this will be my key to single figure golf, saving up!
@davegambrill44952 жыл бұрын
Played Honiton golf club on Friday having travelled down for a wedding. Was hoping to see Mark and Coach Lockey on the course but missed Mark by 5 mins apparently 🙄 tried a chipper and loved it! The way forward 💯
@kristianirvine41922 жыл бұрын
I play the old callaway Rogue irons. If the new ones are anything like them you are on to a winner.
@martinnourish26442 жыл бұрын
Simply love your reviews, the fun and honesty is great.
@wallstreetoneil2 жыл бұрын
I guess they've finally noticed that people are ordering less clubs because no one can hit a 19-degree 6-iron so they may as well again start producing 6-irons with closer to 30-degrees of loft and sell more clubs.
@markhaylor66882 жыл бұрын
Got fitted for these yesterday, cannot wait to get them back
@dixonmoran6689 Жыл бұрын
How do you like them? Hold the green at all?
@briandickie72642 жыл бұрын
I tried these out as part of my fitting the other day…. Just felt unbalanced, head heavy, like swinging a mallet…. Being a high handicapper, i was pleased with the distances and heights i was getting, but then i tried the St Pro and with the Elevate 95 shaft, i’ve never held a club that felt like an extension of my arm before, and could have swung it for hours, accuracy and distance way beyond these irons. My lone hour with the clubs was backed up with stats and an hours fitting, and i ordered the pro’s…. Great value for money, beautifull range of clubs and as Mark says, a lot of ways to get to the same place.
@imagebybram2150 Жыл бұрын
Handicap 45 here.. Wondering if it would make more sense to get the regular Max, or the Max OS…
@Chas.F2 жыл бұрын
I recently watched many of your Turkey vlogs (again) as we were heading out there in March. If you recall on that trip Dan was getting quite regular stick for his strong lofted irons. Coach mentioned in this vlog about being wary of the odd flyer. Interested to know what has changed in your mindset between those turkey vlogs and now? As you also now game stronger lofted, chunkier irons? Cheers.
@mikegermanese97542 жыл бұрын
I currently game the B21 irons, these are similar I take it? Interesting to hear what your thoughts are between the B21 and these. Are the Rogues better. I do tend to struggle a little bit getting my irons up in the air, curious to hear the comparison with these clubs. I totally agree about adding more loft as well. What good is reducing loft if you can't get the ball up in the air?
@WAN0N02 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing 🏌🏽
@chuckwalla2967 Жыл бұрын
When are they coming out with the 25-degree 7 iron?
@SteveSmith-wv8ug2 жыл бұрын
Mark. Your advice for a senior with a slow swing speed (83 with a driver) and has trouble hitting any iron. This Callaway Rouge lite, or the G.I. model of T.M. Stealth irons ??
@unshavengamer55422 жыл бұрын
Went for a fitting expecting to come out with everything Callaway had to offer and hated all of it!!! I did get some Srixon ZX5 irons which felt lovely
@bcain5823 Жыл бұрын
Can you give any advice on which loft would be close to a Rogue x? I'm, looking to add a 4 iron (left) to my set but can't find a Rogue X.
@thebigeasy86092 жыл бұрын
I have over the winter purchased a mint set of Wilson Staff Tour Blades from '77, '78 and just to show you how lofts have changed over the years my 7 iron is 38 degrees of loft. My 4 iron has 26 degrees of lofts. #jussayin' I could never get by looking down at the top line of these irons
@aarondoucette86712 жыл бұрын
I have a set of 2009 Taylormade burner irons. What are a couple set of irons you would recommend to the next step irons?
@dixonmoran6689 Жыл бұрын
I play xrs os. I love them but I don’t like the offset to the left. How does the offset compare with the st max os and the st max? I just ordered at max but I’m scared they won’t hold the green. I’d really appreciate some input. I know i should get fitted but I don’t have a lot of money.
@SpudRunGolf2 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel Mark. I’m coming off a 2 week golf bender, played in Augusta and Vegas. I noticed you have videos on the places we played. I’m going to also make some video. Thanks
@aaronconsaul66452 жыл бұрын
The end was the best
@dougellio70002 жыл бұрын
Mark, how do I make the change to chunky. My head is stuck in 'if it don't look good it ain't goin in the bag'? But, I'm at that age where I need help
@stevencooper92222 жыл бұрын
is loft coming back? I do hope so.
@ashtonbarrell28392 жыл бұрын
These review videos are very good. I like to think about the new clubs I would get ... 25ish handicap hitting my current set of old ping i3 blade irons. If I were to get something that was a bit more forgiving, what kind of gains do you recon I would see? Play about weekly, cut my hc by 7 ish strokes last year. Anyhow, great content boys, can't wait for q new course vlog.
@duddlesthedog6366 Жыл бұрын
I’ll let you know. I just bought a set of these to replace my i3s
@DirtBikes_MathGarden4 ай бұрын
@@duddlesthedog6366 How's it been?
@dloc29072 жыл бұрын
Get in the lake!! Love it!
@jbuburuz2 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the review.
@c0mbat15 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know what shaft stiffness they were playing? They both hit a 7 iron a long way but despite that I have have a feeling that it's regular because the Lite only seems to come in regular.
@doncleary40412 жыл бұрын
great vides. Just got the Rouge ST Max irons. Hoping to try them out next week. It had the tighest dispersion of the 3 7 iron. Enjoy your channel.
@dixonmoran6689 Жыл бұрын
How are they doing for you? Hold the green at all?
@robertturner96902 жыл бұрын
Great vid thanks
@jeffbates54012 жыл бұрын
I would definitely try them
@shaggy43442 жыл бұрын
The pro irons look amazing
@kevinwood17222 жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of choices for a game improvement club. They’re all chunky looking , have offsets, and are stronger lofted.
@Oldlard2 жыл бұрын
You've got to admire the marketing. They spend a decade delofting clubs and selling them to us as improving distance, while shoving an extra 2 wedges in the bag to make up the huge disparities at the top. I can see in a few years time they will have relofted everything and started selling us 1 irons again.
@randallpennington59762 жыл бұрын
Like some guys figure out later in life, a little bit chunky is more fun!
@jamiesloan72592 жыл бұрын
I still play my Ping ISI irons. Very weak lofted irons. I actually like that though. Here’s why…. Somebody with a super strong lofted pitching wedge are having to play “feel” shots anything inside 150. I have an ISI for anything between 65-190 yards, with perfect spacing in between. I shot even par with them Sunday. That’s why I haven’t upgraded irons since ‘97. It doesn’t bother me that my buddies are hitting 2 clubs less, when I’m beating them. Most people’s ego wouldn’t allow them to play these irons, because of the lack of distance. It’s all about SCORE to me.
@bennycase84732 жыл бұрын
Matt Won! Stupid Game! Love your competitive spirit, boys!
@quakecon20092 жыл бұрын
I like chunky clubs but that top line is HUGE.
@johninouye41152 жыл бұрын
Playas!!! Wait…. Umm… nvmd 😂😂 great video!
@jeremylonsdale33502 жыл бұрын
Pacific Lake 🤔🤔🤔 Never heard of it.
@tylerdzugan9596 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how everyone said the rogue x were ridiculous and 4 years later the ST Max is almost identical and everyone loves them lol.
@davepalmerton24292 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure who has the funnier reaction, Matt losing or Mark winning...hilarious.
@BIIIKES Жыл бұрын
Matt won. Stupid game! Hahaha. I love the hidden comment at the end 😂
@Dirtyfrnk0072 жыл бұрын
Great competition!!!😂😂😂
@maamold2 жыл бұрын
I've started to realize this year that I may be too old and need to put these in the bag. Matt Won! Stupid Game!
@5eanReardon2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I am mistaken, but hasn't Ping been doing this for a while now with being able to order "Retro Lofts" or Power Spec lofts instead of their standard loft offerings? Maybe not in all their iron lines, but I remember in the G lines, they did. Matt Won! Stupid Game!
@Xrayg2192 жыл бұрын
omg this was the Muppet show at its best lmaoooo
@andrewturnbull92182 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of chunky clubs at address even though I probably, lol definitely, could do with the help but when I've used chunkier clubs in the past I can't get on with them. I use MP54's by the way not super bladed but still nice and sleek
@robertturner96902 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@ndnd16712 жыл бұрын
All those are chunky boys... Not of fan of offset clubs looks weird to me at setup lowest offset is 2.4 looks like lowest on mine is 0.02 and ma 0.17 on my new ping 159's. Crazy to go back to something like that lol
@daveprice38402 жыл бұрын
I recently went back to more traditional lofts in my irons, 34 deg 7 iron. Modern lofts are too strong.
@WeimaranersAreTheBest2 жыл бұрын
I thought I loved my rogue x… Upgraded today to st max More ball speed Better dispersion
@adriancox-thesantjordigolf36462 жыл бұрын
The only place for plastics on a golf club is the ferrule.
@kalebzehr68502 жыл бұрын
No one is making you buy them
@thomaskuhn65412 жыл бұрын
Why can't Callaway make a better looking game improvement iron with a thinner top line and the offset less offensive? Ping has been able to refine the look of their G irons with each new generation, but when I look at the Rogue ST, it just reminds me of my Big Bertha irons from 25 years ago. Callaway chunk pretty well says it all.
@keitho60182 жыл бұрын
It's a perfect!
@garydavis82132 жыл бұрын
Love the competition. 😂
@jjwong32 жыл бұрын
Just looked at the lofts for the lite and it’s still pretty strong…similar to the apex or st pro. i wonder if the lite with a stronger shaft would be good for high to mid handicaps who eventually want to use players clubs.
@chetlovesmer95492 жыл бұрын
Matt won. Stupid Game. Oh my my, that was fun.
@lindsaynewell63192 жыл бұрын
If Matt had hooked that last one any more on #17 it would have landed in tomorrow🤣
@keithcox31252 жыл бұрын
I have all the Loft a golfer would ever need ( lack of f*#* talent ) nice vid I'm going to stick with my Rouge X
@randymahony81572 жыл бұрын
These are just another mavrik line which won't stop on the green with less than a 9 iron at least for me.
@stephenpickettsp Жыл бұрын
Would like to see..REAL..high Handicap guys using the clubs..with these two..and get a review. See if it actually works in practice
@adriancox-thesantjordigolf36462 жыл бұрын
I want a high descent angle not distance? Don't people want to stop the ball on greens, anymore?
@francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul42732 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 31.5 degrees for a 7 iron isn't too bad... these days. I mean my 7i is 35° and that's much better for everything, spin, gapping, descent angle... and control of those damn over draws. The only thing is that people want to say "oh, I've hit 7 on this hole, that's one less than you..." or something. Just put colours or the lofts on the sole and that's it... We shouldn't care how far this or that iron number goes, just that when we pick one in particular it goes (most of the time) the distance we think it should go.
@dollarbillclinton43272 жыл бұрын
FOOTJOY SIZE 15
@wesboothe65072 жыл бұрын
Maximum top line
@barryemery162 жыл бұрын
Mark wins
@ianbarton25812 жыл бұрын
Of course Matt won, he always does. lockeyarmy
@johnwallace5202 жыл бұрын
Matt Won. Stupid Game! I've just bought some new MP225 so I won't be changing for a long time.
@SolomonLi2 жыл бұрын
Not my kind of butter knife, but I always think an interesting category. Fun video as always. MATT WON! STUPID GAME! 😂
@asw161772 жыл бұрын
I'd try clubs like this if I could find some with zero(ish) offset. I just cant look down at ugly clubs.
@jimsaddler9422 жыл бұрын
I'd play the ugliest clubs made if they helped me look at my scorecards with lower scores...
@asw161772 жыл бұрын
@@jimsaddler942 I tried that and just can't do it, I wish I could . Would be an easy solution 🙂
@NineEyeRon2 жыл бұрын
Embrace that, accept it. You can’t change core beliefs without huge effort. Stick to only beautiful clubs with zero offset.
@dionwilliams85392 жыл бұрын
Matt Won, Stupid Game!!😜
@mcfly27272 жыл бұрын
Competition for how many times the word 'max' is said in this vid? 👍
@mikevreeland88892 жыл бұрын
You can't compare irons distance with a 4 degree loft difference. It's a 7 iron vs, a strong 6.
@miket98812 жыл бұрын
Borrowed a Callaway Rogue STMax Os Lite 7 iron from our pro shop Thursday and got a hole in one. Had to go across a lake and up hill to the flag lying on a Plato. Just saying.
@Arrest_Tim_Kennedy Жыл бұрын
They talk over each other the entire time. Literally thought it was an echo at first
@BenjaminGrehan2 жыл бұрын
No game is stupid if the Army leader wins it!
@wesmalone54082 жыл бұрын
Matt won! Stupid Game! Haha
@brandonhinckley39942 жыл бұрын
Matt won!! Stupid game!
@socalgolf9978 Жыл бұрын
doesnt look like they were holding the green very well., spin is too low.
@RichardJones-hk6vs2 жыл бұрын
Ah, I knew there would be at least one “GET UP” 😂😂😂 MATT WON - STUPID GAME
@setafavn2 жыл бұрын
Matt won! Stupid game!
@lukeparker53322 жыл бұрын
Matt Won! Stupid Game!
@jeremiahmclane23742 жыл бұрын
Matt won, stupid game, and I think Crossy tries to make the rules in his favor, hmmmmmmmmm, Lockey Army!