Can China's AI Technology Compete With the US?

China's tech giants report earnings this week, with investors closely watching for progress on AI development. IN. Capital Founding Partner Jen Zhu Scott and Sinovation Ventures Chairman & CEO Kai-fu Lee discuss China's AI industry on "Bloomberg: The China Show."
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[@thedlkr]

More competition is always a good thing for consumers.

[@tustak]

Just that eventually consumers becomes soldiers

[@Booz2020]

Slava 🇹🇼

[@MikeB-ev4fh]

You're thinking of democratic countries

[@pussiestroker]

@thedlkr ai competition ultimately is the exception to that rule.

[@albertcadgame8314]

ya ? like right now the US is imposing huge tariffs on Chinese products. How good is that for the US people ???

[@passby8070]

US has been trying hard to handicap China with so many rounds of sanctions to stop China from moving forward. I think it has created a short term road block for China. But over the longer term, it is actually helping China become more competitive as it created a huge gap for Chinese companies to fill. This will also resulted in alot more experts in the area. When we talk about AI, we often think of Chips and LLMs, but China has doing some amazing work with applying AI to smart machines that we consumers wants to buy. China has been in the forefront in Consumer robotics, smart drones, 3d printing and EVs were execution, integration and mass production are way more important than 7nm vs 3nm in niche machines.

[@merrick6484]

China might be one step behind US in terms of AI technology, but they are 100 steps ahead in terms of commercialised their products and application, with existing domestic market. China will soon catch up, thats for sure.

[@MD97531]

You little CCP bots life in a dream world. Meanwhile reality is catching up with China and the growth story is over.

[@MD97531]

If the future of the world were to be won with propaganda and bots online then China would surely prosper. Luckily that’s not the case and China is failing in real time for all to witness

[@MD97531]

China is miles behind and will never catch up. The US created and is leading and will shape the new AI technological revolution, again.

[@danielb7253]

Chines always so nationalistic with hatred against the world. A country that was ruled by peasants until recently. But Xi has honory degrees. Hmm? So many ccp members chosen are born abroad.

[@QuocBinh-us7lb]

The U.S. thinks 'Competition' is another word for 'War'.

[@thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513]

It's easy to tell. If Chinese AI companies can not compete, US wouldn't ban chips for AI.

[@tluangasailo3663]

well US primarily does to prevent China military possessing the chips, not the chinese enterprise

[@jhyang731]

it has happened never before， ever after， until USA stop，it will be stopped ！

[@emingoh3586]

@@tluangasailo3663 do you believe in this? lol

[@user-px8ct5ik2q]

@@tluangasailo3663 你觉得中国军方会使用美国的晶片吗？以为中国那么天真吗 中国难道不怕美国的芯片有后门 这么愚蠢的话都能够说出来

[@Chessmapling]

That's a matter of hardware vs software. In software, no doubt Chinese AI companies can develop models just as well as American. But the hardware to train those models quickly is in the hands of the US. Now China has already surprised with their Huawei phone so I don't think they're that far behind.

[@pbworld7858]

It will be very difficult to fight American propaganda. USA does the best propaganda.

[@TeeHee-vo1bn]

You mean better than CCP propaganda?

[@brianliew5901]

Propaganda cannot reduce the debt any more than earning profits. They're not only lying others but also lying to themselves. The real problem is they're now believing in their own lies. 😢😢😢😂

[@misterbig9025.]

Says chinese propagandist

[@Peter-ox8lj]

@@misterbig9025. See USA bot always gets last laugh

[@brianliew5901]

Where's my comment, YT? Too ashamed to allow others to learn the truth?

[@WellSalt-Studio]

49 % of the AI graduates are in China, 40% of AI graduates in the US are Chinese. Country of origin of AI researchers in Globally, actual numbers: China 47%, US 18%, Europe 12%, India 5%. Country of origin of AI researchers in the US, actual numbers: China 38%, US 37%, Europe 6%, India 7%, Canada 2% and others 10%. Amount the top 2% AI expert in USA , 60% are Chinese. Chinese STEM grads 10x more than US, or 5x of US and Europe. Chinese engineer dividend has just begun. Compared with the computer cluster composed of NVIDIA B200, the computer cluster composed of Huawei Ascend 920 saves more electricity at the same computility, and it is more computility than NVIDIA at the same power consumption. Obviously, the price-performance ratio of Ascend 920 is higher and the actual calculation cost is lower. Compete with the Chinese in terms of intelligence and diligence? America will definitely lose!

[@MD97531]

Doesn’t matter how many millions of AI graduates you can roll off the factory line when the top AI talent lives and works in the US and 60% of top AI institutions are in America. The mass of graduates is just a commodity and will be replaced by Indians and others over time.

[@david50665]

​@@MD97531That is just result of brain drain which will be reversing soon

[@david50665]

​@@MD97531this is just result of years of brain drain which will soon be reversing

[@MD97531]

@@david50665 that’s just hopes and dreams my friend.

[@dr.magnanimous8973]

@@MD97531 You act like there is no top AI institutions in China. There are not only companies and institutions in China, there are also an abunance of universities and government sponsored organization in China to advance AI. Aside from programing, China has the edge on big data on population and society behavior, and is more creative on the AI application. If India or any countries can replace China to achieve the same effectiveness, and not just rhetorics, India/Japan/Korea/Canada/Australia... the US would have already shipped all of its low end high end research and manfacturing work to all of America's allies. But the fact is these countries including US cannot compete with China now or definitely in the future.

[@truthful3777]

One thing China is not good at... Story Telling.

[@brianliew5901]

Story telling is strictly a Western patent and one will have to pay royalty to engage in it. 🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@WalkOverHotCoal]

I agree. But it is no good just to tell a good story, you also need to actually deliver what you promised. Take the space mission as an example. When Bill Nelson of NASA doing song and dance in front of the Artemis rocket, he told people that it is the biggest rocket ever. Then on the launch day, as it was counting down, it leaked. They checked it fr leaks, patched it up, and set up for a new launch date. Then it leaked again ! They crawled all over it looking for leaks. It was after quite a delay, it finally took off. When it comes to propaganda, the US has plenty. In the White House, they have John Kirby, Matthew Miller, Karin Jean Pierre, who cover for Joe Biden who is unsure of where he was half the time.

[@noyanali6855]

The one US telling about Ukraine?

[@nmew6926]

Propaganda is the only thing that China is still way behind the West. To be honest, China struggle to prove the truth. For example, the 2 Canadian Michaels accused of spying. China can hardly convince the world this truth until.. one of the 2 Michaels file a lawsuit against the other Michael for dragging him in spying when he is not supposed and paid for. Western Propaganda are experts to transform lies into truths. If they can fool the world that Americans landed on the moon, then anything else is a piece of cake

[@padtag1742]

Ban TikTok and there will be only one storyteller

[@steventee984]

The question should be..... Can US AI technology compete with China ?

[@tluangasailo3663]

not sure about that, but US seems to always invents things before china

[@MrBomuch]

Well China has to wait to steal it.. So they will be behind...steal faster China

[@The.Harsh.Truths]

Sure 50 cent. China used to say they’re leading the AI race during the Trump term, and now they’re saying they’ll catch up quickly. The trend is that they’re falling further and further behind. China missed their chance to overtake the USA. They had a narrow window before their population started shrinking. Now they’ll go the way of Japan and stagnate for decades even without a plaza accord.

[@easymi9964]

China: a strong gov supports Companies. US: Companies supports a weak gov.

[@MD97531]

China: a government is running China into extinction and revolution US: a government is driving innovation and prosperity

[@Booz2020]

🇺🇲: a Greedy passion Supports Strong Capitalism 🤯

[@lionvictor9944]

Not about China competing or catching up with anyone. Its about fulfilling chinas and global needs.

[@berniv7375]

China, USA, and all the other countries need to stop using other animals in experiments and toxicity testing. It is a total waste of life and resources. We have the technology to totally transform science and in the process save ourselves. It is incredible that we are advancing in so many ways but regressing where it really matters. Our collective survival.🌱

[@user-mm3eu4un6b]

China can't even feed their people China will be like another north Korea.

[@Chryeon]

The Chinese never give up 🚀🚀

[@codrinvechiu2832]

Because americans made public the ai thing that means they're lightyears away from everyone

[@MD97531]

America is way ahead on AI

[@SoYappy]

China will give up as soon as there is none in opensource. As soon as a new innovation is published China would declare they just invented it.

[@MD97531]

China gave up having children. That’s how much they believe in the future

[@Chryeon]

@@MD97531 yess it does have advantage of being the first eventually China always catching up, and they will make an even cheaper hardware and advance in software too...

[@BrandyHeng007]

China never run away from level field competitions.

[@bolajiayoola5179]

They always remove level playing field and they talk about competition.

[@noneone3310]

well, even the playing field are rigged against china, like what the US and the west has been so desperately trying to do, china still can compete, and most likely will win. in fact the more hostile pressure put on them, the more they perform. thanks to the US's anti china attitude, they are making china great again, or shall we say "even more great"😂

[@phillip76]

@@bolajiayoola5179 No, China is better as a competitor and innovator. U.S. is all about being unfair. Forcing countries to use the dollar, starting wars, and when it can't win commercially, sanction and ban.

[@SW-fy8pq]

@@bolajiayoola5179 you mean the United Snakes?

[@user-ug1eo4xb7z]

Although the 'Large Language Model' (LLM) is the currently the most popular approach to A.I, there are other methods. In my opinion, Numenta's 'Thousand Brains Theory' (TBT) aims to mimic human brains, has produced the 'Platform for Intelligent Computing' (NuPIC). A model that is efficient, scalable and works in combination with LLM, but doesn't require GPUs.

[@revilo8oliver]

Do not forget! Kaifu Lee is the inventor of Apple Siri

[@kittydukakis]

This guy started his company one year ago; that was enough time to debut a LLM. In most countries, even building an office building takes longer than that.

[@minervasheryl4748]

Give it a rest. The US cannot even compete with Tik Tok's algorithm. Forget AI.

[@brianliew5901]

The US is working its butts off to create DickCock.

[@bladestarX]

You don’t know or understand AI. Did you consider various factors such as semiconductors, innovation and more important than anything trust? The biggest roadblock for AI is adoption due to security concerns. No one trust China when it comes to AI. So, the U.S. is not only well positioned to compete but is leading.

[@McLovin16x29]

nice joke

[@LanNguyen-vd4zt]

A copy of vines

[@MD97531]

China can’t compete with Google, Meta etc 😂

[@tompell3032]

Can they? Are you kidding me? They have the most engineering talents in the world. They graduate more engineers each year. We don't need these so called "experts" to tell us the obvious answer to that.

[@zhijingchen4563]

Lee Kaifu was VP of Apple, VP of Microsoft China, and was famous among Chinese internet circle. His opinion definitely worth consideration.

[@WellSalt-Studio]

Chinese STEM grads 10x more than US, or 5x of US and Europe. Chinese engineer dividend has just begun.

[@dee-vee]

The supremacist naysayers will tell you that a single US engineer is better than 1000 Chinese engineers. 🤣

[@yangli7279]

如果你来中国，你就会知道中国的AI有多糟糕，所有人都在使用chatgpt 而非中国人自己的AI模型。请不要用你以为中国很厉害的眼光来看待中国。

[@isaacnewtonchauke5444]

😂😂😂 bro ​@@dee-vee

[@luihinwai1]

I think what they are saying is that the current dollar value generated by very large LLM is smaller than the dollar cost of compute to those model. Hence there may be an economical optimal model size that is already smaller than the current size of state of the art models.

[@yojimbo3681]

I still remember AI used to be called Machine Learning (ML) just 5-6 years ago. How fast the industry pivots.

[@brianliew5901]

This is not an exaggeration. Regarding the tech war between China and the US, it's not hard to see China will win this one fairly easily despite one hand being tied behind its back.

[@passby8070]

This is a classic case of "what does not kill you will make you stronger" There's a huge boom in the semiconductor and smart machine space. It is creating possibilities and synergies that wouldn't have if wasn't for the sanctions.

[@danielb7253]

give me some facts please. How will china defeat the WEST in AI??? They kill critical thinking in their education system. they need foreigners to help them, not Chinese born peeps.

[@MD97531]

Outstanding propaganda

[@darshuetube]

If they're so advanced in tech, the idea of being sanctioned is crazy. Only the more advanced can do the sanctioning.

[@MD97531]

@@darshuetube hahaha I know right, it’s ludicrous. Like people with sticks and stones sanctioning their neighbors with guns and steel.

[@kmich7660]

To be frank, USA may soon be not the one to beat, China may find it has to beat itself. 😊

[@normanchan2001]

I don't know. China has 5000 years of continuous history, the problems on the horizon seems to be less scary than in the past.

[@johnwhoo6194]

more efficiency， better algorism design， willing be better than more and more hardware， more and more hardware will have a dead end.

[@borisbaranov5085]

I've been following your recommendations for several months now and getting great results.

[@janicetone1624]

Dr. K.F. Lee is a legend. I have followed his long, inspirational, uplifting life story for decades. It would be very informative for the "western media" to hear from Dr. Lee more often.

[@LL-rm8xt]

China is showing how REAL competition is pushing innovation and marking advancements iterate more quickly.... EV's is a good example...

[@yiuhhsinggou3666]

Most of ai related models developed by us re open sourced…. CN doesn’t have catchup, they just take them!

[@rudyr4163]

Sensored AI an AI?

[@KBar591]

Disagree with the premise that smaller and localized models would suffice. Yes, they will solve a segment of problems but not give full range of capabilities and potential benefits. Obviously, China would count on opensource since its free and easily ported to bespoke segments.

[@luihinwai1]

I think what they are saying is that the current dollar value generated by very large LLM is smaller than the dollar cost of compute to those model. Hence there maybe an economical optimal model size that may already be smaller than the current state of the art models.

[@KBar591]

@@luihinwai1 Yes, and my point is smaller models would solve targeted problems, but that approach would not be sufficient.

[@nz1200]

Why not? In fact a lot of US technologies were the results of Chinese scientists and researchers.

[@acyaghogho]

Very fine discourse👍

[@justindressler5992]

Just look at Groq a smallish company built a LLM inference engine faster than any NVidia hardware. It is because the hardware is dedicated to the task. I think in five years PCI-E NPU's will be common place in PC's and will be installed side by side with the GPU. NVidia has a short window were it can capitalize on this, but they will still dominate generic compute tasks. In the long run i expect far more exotic solutions to come in the form on analog computers which store the weights and activations directly in the cells of the circults. This will mean instantaneous memory access and these new exotic chips will be nothing like what we have now. Approximation is a analog issue not digital.

[@valdecigomes8519]

USA, the best in propaganda, China the best in job.

[@pkrvp]

It’s always easier to copy, I guess. Just wait for the US to invent the next big thing and then copy paste 😂

[@rslrsl7237]

Ows ... USA banning every technology (HUAWEI, 5G, BYD XIAOMI ETC🤣🤣🤣) from china because they can't compete... Usa dont even have high speed bullet trains and their infrastructure is no match with china ...

[@benedictbayi6686]

it's a question of when and probably will be triple...China is big and fast

[@PavelSumik]

I really liked this discussion, people were genuinely interested in other people's opinions, about new technologies, they didn't play games, they spoke naturally, no affectation, they got to the point, a decent factual discussion with friendly people, I wish there were more videos like this

[@mujur9101]

Amputates your competitors and self declaring yourself as a winner is something to be proud of. 😂😅🤭🤫

[@dailylifetips2767]

China beats US at connecting AI tech to consumers, and that’s the most important!!

[@jhockey11liu91]

Jen is on the money

[@jackie-sd6lc]

Nvidia's Blackwell is the beginning of terminator

[@sihksahmir5635]

US's IA could well solve the American debt problem right?

[@troublemakersization]

Because Elon open sourced the model.

[@eyeonchina2023]

I can understand the use case for a smaller model but what she's saying amounts to arguing large companies should shift billions of capital investment into open source, which is never going to happen (although I can see why China would love that) . Investors aren't going to give ten billion to see that given away. They want roi. That's why that startup guy spoke up and said there's a need for larger models.

[@tuapuikia]

Are they Chinese or American in the news?

[@gst8506]

Just be humble, everybody will go far ahead. If not,.. good luck ..

[@tonfie]

How do you spell the name of the Chinese GPT? Do they have a demo website? Can it answer questions about the government?

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Can usa ai locate palestine

[@Rubicon365]

Chatgpt can answer question about your government.. like who to vote for this November... But what difference does it make? Go search for Ernie bot from Baidu.

[@mijailelenes9796]

How is this man NOW an AI pioneer? Is this not the same spokesperson for everything China versus US related? I swear I’ve seen this man in every conversation since the tariffs war to discussing electric vehicles on behalf of the Chinese manufacturers. do you think in a population of 1 billion people we could find somebody else to look at while we manufacture our fears.

[@jaradshaw4723]

Nuclear fission brought about Nuclear winter.... ai brought about complete electronic shipper and banking collapse

[@yongchen8204]

china cant compete wiith USA in AI, but china will control its own AI industry for its 1.4 billions people market just like it does with its own internet services and mobile network services. and that is a huge market outside from US!

[@Booz2020]

Slava TSMC 🇹🇼

[@directxxxx71]

​@@Booz2020 US Slave 🇹🇼

[@whitemoon5752]

Baidu’s mobile AI is excellent I use it every day. But you need to have a very good prompt skills to ask the question. Once you have mastered the skills it is great! Even for HR, Marketing, management, also how the property market for a particular home in a particular neighborhood would look like in next 3 years. Amazing!

[@misterbig9025.]

China bot

[@adamsaciid4919]

@@misterbig9025. cia bot

[@whitemoon5752]

@@misterbig9025. how do you know?

[@misterbig9025.]

@@whitemoon5752 it sounds like a bot comments

[@brianliew5901]

@@misterbig9025. But you sounds like a nut.

[@ScotchOnyx]

Didn't the Chinese just invented a new clear disc with storage space of like a 1000TB?

[@paullo8268]

Kai Fu Lee is already out of fashion.

[@harry8201]

US works in conjunction with all of EU uk and Canada and Australia to build its Ecosystem each leveraging their skills. Why hasn’t China leveraged itself through the talent from other countries like Russia and Singapore and Brazil etc.

[@jaisriram295]

Because no one wants to work with a communist dictatorship whose sole goal is to dominate the world with evil intent

[@phillip76]

I think it is. No countries is an island. Even tho usa want to isolate itself.

[@yaoliang1580]

China don't have so many puppets

[@dragonred3576]

我擦，李开复居然还活着。

[@user-rk9xh8pm6w]

我一看到也一愣，他得了癌症，居然气色那么好。 不过好像最近他的创新工坊没有以前那么火了。

[@lesterchester8097]

Kai-fu Lee remarks re smaller models and parameters would be "sufficient" are rather strange. Guess China is on a niche migration path.

[@willv88]

Kai-fu Lee may have known a bit about China a decade ago, but he's not the expert that these folks should be talking to...

[@jgwizo]

I think China is well ahead of western AI systems. Majority of AI tools are what people believed in decision bands. A lot of the AI are well ahead because it leads in quantum science. The hazard of most AI are compliance systems and will kill the innovative aspirations of the world.

[@aw954]

The title doesn't depict the truth. Both are the leading nations. China is better In certain fields, while the USA is better in some other fields.

[@lilingsun966]

China's entry into any industry always has a significant impact on that specified industry. We've seen this pattern in various sectors like EVs, solar panels, memory chips, lithium batteries, and more. Even the US tries to deliberately suppress China in AI, before long that China's involvement in the AI industry will also lead to substantial changes.

[@Anonymous------]

Well said. Chinese mind works better when pressured.

[@mizanrahman5194]

Can US's AI tech survive Chinese onslaught? Foot note: EV is waiting on the border.

[@warodomthamrongthanyawong691]

Plus solar panels.

[@lagrangewei]

the media keep talking about AI, because that is the only thing US has left that is still competitive. rarely is it mention that China produce more chip than US does. and China communication hardware latency have reach a lower level that US, allowing for greater decentralisation of processing power and opening the way of the "internet of things" (IoT), in fact you never heard of IoT much on the news anymore since US cannot compete at all on IoT. and the greater penetration of IoT in China would allow them to have greater situation awareness. if you know what is happening, you won't need an AI to guess what is happening, the end goal of AI is really to solve problem, you can't solve problem if you don't have accurate data, a guess, no matter how accurate is still a guess.

[@hekeng]

Yes, of course.

[@RoyFJ65]

Thats why US is busy banning chips in sense of fair competition. Anyone who reads hackerank and sees the listing of countries top in programing knows the truth.

[@MasterLeong888]

very well said thank you!

[@JGZhang-xh8tx]

A friend can help you make small achievements. You need a rival to make you a big success. US is making China great again!

[@mikey1836]

She’s wrong. You use large inefficient AI to help you create the smaller more efficient ones.

[@jasonmraz3239]

they can but their politic sucks.

[@procrastinateXrok]

I think China has the long game indeed

[@gregwang8628]

Competing in what arena? Civil applications or military applications? US is the winner of the latter hands down.

[@bret3977]

I can see the disappointment of the bananas.

[@franzMong]

It is very interesting that we are talking about the AI competition. However, it is also interesting to note that all the participants in the video are all CHINESE LOOKING! What does it tell ???

[@WW-qf2fm]

And even the banks are too ignorant to know that AI is not safe. I wouldn't put my voice to anything concerning my bank accounts etc

[@MRhn-kw6om]

If China's AI can compete with the F16's AI

[@dr.zschanel3671]

I wonder if all those language models can help KZbin or Instagram to beat tiktok

[@ongbookok9320]

Mention of China, Americans got nervous and lost its composure. Don’t worry too much the Chinese will catch up. American’s technology in AI is still very far ahead. The harder sanction applied to the Chinese, the faster the Chinese will narrow the gap. So it is for the Americans to think very hard what should be the right approach to handle the Chinese

[@cool.politics]

The question is whether Chinese generative AI development is sustainable under severe speech censorship.

[@Mr.J.xiansheng]

China's AI capabilities indeed do not match those of the United States, but it's important to recognize that currently, only these two countries can be considered serious competitors in this field.

[@andrewlin6136]

Can anyone stop, anyone from ageing ?

[@christopersambeli6566]

china is becoming self sufficient

[@normanchan2001]

It is my understanding AI is all about data and China dwarfs the US in data.

[@siewkonsum7291]

Germany, France and Poland don't get involved! 😊

[@mikey1836]

No to Chinese AI. We are in an AI arms race.

[@albertcadgame8314]

What is the point of making AI being able to chat but it don't understand what the text printed on screen means ? Chat GPT, I can safely say the AI don't actually knew the meaning of the texts it printed out. But we human knew what our thoughts or chatting means when human replies on the questions.

[@Anonymous------]

You have no idea of what AI is, it's not just a search for information. Things like ChatGPT is only a small thing AI can do, it does a lot more than that.

[@gandhikumar2956]

Don't forget the best CEOs come from India

[@Booz2020]

Don't forget the HOTtest actresses come from Venezuela and Colombia 👀 Don't forget the most reliable car brands come from Japan 🗾 Don't forget the Largest Electric Vendors come from South Korea.

[@jaycetse2956]

Yeah, then they outsourcing jobs to India, like Microsoft and Google now

[@user-of5cp1kb4f]

Is this really a question. Why do people think China is some Kind of 3rd world country. Of course the can compete.

[@rainkloud]

If you were taking a drink every time they said Kai Fu then congratulations! You now have cirrhosis!

[@user-hb9fp4vs2f]

Chinas advance in EV and their batteries are due to Tesla. They were going nowhere fast despite billions of govt. Subsidies for years and years. With 4 times the amount of educated people in China, we expect more, but there is practically no progress and zero innovations. China is very good at applying american tech for their market. Without american, Japanese and European camera tech, their smart phone market is pretty stuck in 2018.

[@user-br9oi2sh7o]

TALK IS NONSENSE, Come back in 3 years and the result will speak for itself then the US WILL FIND OUT IF SANCTIONS WORK OR BACKFIRE.

[@jy3ster]

China already has more advanced ai tech than USA… not even sure why you’re asking the question

[@MD97531]

Hahaha nowhere near as advanced.

[@johnc1873]

@@MD97531way better. Without Chinese engineers in US, US would have nothing to do

[@MD97531]

@@johnc1873 nah mostly Indian engineers are becoming more important than Chinese ones. China has lost its way before making it out of middle income status. Hope they can prevent a hard landing as their population halves and they fade into the background this century.

[@johnc1873]

@@MD97531 😂😂 yeah bro. That’s why Chinas economy is 14 trillion larger by GDP than India . Because Indians are soooooo much better than Chinese and have lost they’re way 😂😂😂

[@DW-op7ly]

@@MD97531 ​​⁠ There is now a 27 book series on Chinese inventions that says we copied or stole from them These days the Chinese lead in 37 of 44 critical technologies of the future The narrow minded view? Is to concentrate on the 7 technologies that China does not lead in…. Then arguing they can’t innovate 👇 Why was China erased from Western memory The remarkable history of Chinese invention - Why was China erased from Western memory? Article by 龙信明 Introduction Joseph Needham was an English medical doctor and biologist, teaching in England in the 1930s. By an accident of fate he acquired some Chinese students, and was intrigued to hear their claims of so many medical and scientific discoveries having originated in China, rather than in the West. Needham became fully fluent in Chinese, and eventually moved to China in 1942 to investigate these claims and to research the entire history of Chinese invention. That work led to an astonishing voyage of historical discovery. Needham originally planned to write a book cataloguing Chinese inventions, but his first volume barely scratched the surface of his subject. He slowly gatherred many of his students into this enterprise, and they eventually wrote a collection of 26 books, to catalog the history of Chinese discovery. Myth and Misrepresentation It leaves one speechless to learn the vast extent of things invented by the Chinese many hundreds of years, and often several millennia, before they appeared in the West. MySingaporeBlogSpot

[@XYang2023]

She is missing the point. It is a race to AGI rather than short term financial return.

[@skydragon23101979]

AGI unlikely to happen so soon and based on her evaluation the way the LLMs are going AGI’s would need a power source the size of the SuN or close to support AGI. The direction doesn’t look correct for AGI

[@XYang2023]

@@skydragon23101979 The number of parameters is approaching to the number of synapses in a human brain. You can estimate that based on Moore's Law. The training phase requires a lot of energy but not really the case for the inferencing phase. In addition, there are low power alternatives to GPUs.

[@Questington]

Yvonne Man = Iron Man?

[@ivantan4537]

Electric power will be a bottleneck for USA in the coming years.

[@udhelhc]

I hope China will beat the US on AI. US is doing everything it can slow down these developments, but the dragon is unleashed. Go China!

[@alsaderi]

💯👏🤩💙🦾🤖🧠. Not to mention EU🤡🐒.

[@PseudoProphet]

China has the AI technology, but they don't have the GPUs.

[@bubuneowoo6161]

Ignorant much? China has GPU 3,000x faster than Nvidia’s A100!

[@samiah21]

Keep going China... Continue being good to your fellow world citizens unlike the West.

[@banavathlaxmi230]

Final winner is.....India❤❤❤

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

India best achievements so far India's Hunger index 2013: 63rd rank 2022: 107th rank India's Happiness index. 2013: 111th rank 2022: 136th rank India's press freedom rank 2013:79th 2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest democracy is no more India's unemployment rate 2013:4.9% 2023:7.5% Unemployment rate never increase in growing economy.. india is growing only on paper and by loan India's Debt before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore 2023: ₹155 lakh crore India's GDP from 2004 to 2014: $709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple) India's GDP from 2014to 2024: $2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even double

[@manwingchi9156]

Chinese AI system is same level as US, the problem is what kind of questions you ask. 😊😊😊😊

[@misterbig9025.]

stolen ip

[@adamsaciid4919]

@@misterbig9025. donkey

[@MD97531]

It’s nowhere near and US pioneered it 😊😊😊😊😊

[@ska5568]

*China should continue to cultivate overcapacity and export to all countries around the world. Deprive the Western manufacturers if global market, they should be left only with their own markets. THE WEST SHOULD NOT EARN FOREIGN EXCHANGE!!* 🎉🎉🎉

[@alifareh1]

Imagine if all 3 anchors are Chinese? Wouldn’t you feel annoyed if another country is bullying your country even though they could be American.

[@hardheadjarhead]

Two of them have western last names. One is a mixed race individual, the other clearly married into her name. The fact that they are of Chinese heritage doesn’t mean that they are prejudiced one way or the other. Kai Fu Lee seems so, however.

[@HanS662]

You should reverse your titles Dumbberg. Can the US compete.

[@user-mm3eu4un6b]

Chinas ai program is lost without a net t that got destroyed by tictok

[@tvm73836]

ChatCCP would be a good name for this model 🤣