My Wife's Friend Has Overstayed Her Welcome Even Sleeping In Our Bed r/Relationships

[@whims6278]

No wayyyy. Home is my sanctuary and having someone pop in and then STAY unannounced would be an absolute no go for me. OP shouldn't have to put up with that.

[@whims6278]

I don't necessarily find a friend snuggle too weird (even as a bisexual woman) but I DO find laying in someone else's sheets really weird and gross 😬 lol idk just not where I'd be if I was chilling with my bff

[@chinaking918]

@@whims6278this. After my best friend got married I never sleep in her bed like I used to when she was single. If I do get in the bed I’m on top of the covers with a separate throw. I do the same with my family. If they’re in relationships I do not get in their beds (under covers, laying on pillows etc). It’s weird imo but that’s just me. Then again I might be the weird one lol. Besides I don’t like ppl in my bed and I’m single so being married I definitely wouldn’t want it. Unless they’re babies or small children don’t be getting in my bed without permission.

[@iononcantomascrivo]

Part of the reason why my ex and I split. He would invite his now-divorced co-teacher over, who was having problems with her now ex-husband and let her stay the night. I like to get comfortable and walk around in my skivvies after work. I could not very well do that with this woman being over unannounced and sleeping on the couch. That's just one story on why we didn't make it. Four years down the drain.

[@Khanjikai]

​@chinaking918 I agree 100%. The few friends I am close enough to that I'd share a bed with to watch a show, it's on top of the bed with a throw. It would have to be, like, [my house burned down and I'm being sheltered and their spouse voluntarily said "you share the bed with my wife/your bestie and I'll bunk with the kids for now" kind of rare emergency] that I'd ever imagine sleeping under the covers in someone's marital bed.

[@persephoneszeliga]

Oh no. Fk that bullshitw

[@clover1593ify]

Berta is at the very least enjoying the sabotage of the marriage

[@KiltBill2]

Misery loves company.

[@chaosshiva4165]

Man I didn’t even think about that. Considering how many relationships she’s burned through I wouldn’t put it past her to keep clinging.

[@johnbradbury8610]

Op has no one to blame but himself. he believes his wife because she said so as if a cheater could not lie. His wife doesn't work and clearly has no respect for him.

[@lilolmecj]

Maybe they can be “house less” together.

[@KittenUndercover]

I thought that too

[@Ospyro3em]

100% getting art room vibes between wife and Berta

[@jamieholland3853]

PLEASE explain what the art room is 😂

[@Perfectedketchup]

@@jamieholland3853dude has a spare room in his house that without discussing with his wife turns it into an art studio for his “best friend” and even called out on it he realized he was gay for his best friend.

[@Ospyro3em]

@jamieholland3853 there was an AITA story about a year or so ago where OP questions if he was the AH for turning their spare room into an art room for his friend Ben, without even discussing it with his wife, who was understandably upset. Many commenters called him out for caring more about Ben's feelings than his own wife and questioned if he secretly was in love with Ben. After avoiding this question for ages, he finally said that he does feel like he loves Ben more than his wife and showed absolutely no remorse for treating his wife like crap and basically just tossing her aside because he was more excited with starting new romance with Ben. When the comments tore him to shreds for his selfish, spoilt attitude and asked what his wife was going to do now, his reply was the equivalent of "I dunno, sucks to be her I guess. But enough of that- yay me for getting together with Ben!" That's why many refer to the "art room" when stories are leading to a spouse cheating, usually with a same gender friend.

[@DoritoBot9000]

A connoisseur

[@hi_stranger9156]

@@Ospyro3em oh man the infamous *"Art Room"* what a sh*t show.

[@Tyanna01]

Story 2: OP needs to explain to Vince why she's cutting him off. She's ghosting him b/c she's afraid of his GF. It's sounds like he's at the start of an abusive relationship. OP should just be like "hey, I'm going to be blocking you on all social media b/c I don't want to deal with your gf. Here's what she's sending me." then block him. Let him sort out his GF.

[@hi_stranger9156]

Story 1: *"I made it clear I don’t like her, I don’t like how my wife treats me around her, and if she wants to continue she needs to do so elsewhere. She seemed to understand."* Not going to lie... I'm not confident about this. Considering OP said he already had a similar talk once with her overstaying her welcome and then Berta and his wife just fell back into the same routine. I give it 3-4 months before Berta comes a-knocking again.

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

I've had lots of close friendships. Never would I be caught dead "cuddling" with them, let alone in their partner's bed. The wife needs to decide whether she's a wife or the emotional support animal for Berta.

[@dimsufferer9951]

Honestly I won't be shocked if we get an update that the wife was cheating on OP with her “friend”

[@jamieholland3853]

Yeah I'd be telling them both to go somewhere else

[@jenniferkay9789]

Wife just told her to disappear for a few weeks, until she can sneak her back in. She has no intention of making her leave, for good. She's getting her cake, and eating it, too. Literally!

[@johnbradbury8610]

Op sounds like a total doormat. There are no kids yet his wife isn't working, meanwhile, she brings home her leech "friend" who cuddles with his wife. OP deserves an endless amount of smacks until he learns self-respect. He needs to get out now, and definitely not have kids.

[@AmberF2]

Vince needs to be made aware of his girlfriend's unhinged immaturity, definitely.

[@juliearmfield2634]

Vince really needs to know about this girl because she is definitely showing signs of a bunny boiler. I would be extremely concerned if I were them

[@marshawargo7238]

I think OP's bf should call Vince & tell him to make his gf leave OP alone because she's causing, what did crazy call it, turmoil & stress in their relationship! 😂

[@misamisoART]

@@marshawargo7238 This is probably the best way to handle it. You don't want to put stress on your BF/F, but it's better than you calling up and involving yourself. It's better to get a neutral party sort it out, and then contact local authorities if it continues.

[@LupusArgentum]

She's clearly nuts and I'd be concerned about how many other people she's trying to isolate him from.

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

💯 this woman is toxic she needs to take her queen bee games and play them somewhere else. I was astonished that people were advising op after the first post to not tell the friend and ok for someone, not a close circle friend. I can understand the desire to keep out of their drama. But there was a really good professional answer that I liked, that's politely giving a heads up in the 'apologies', and it was so clever.

[@JodyBruchon]

I spent many years of my life stuck with this woman who was NOT my girlfriend originally, and I also had absolutely no success with other women, so I ended up with her. I found out after we divorced that she had run around and told EVERYONE EITHER OF US KNEW that she wanted me, I was hers, don't pursue him, blah blah. *If ONE PERSON would have told me this was happening behind my back I'd have not wasted 8 years of my life stuck with that psycho.* Don't respect any demands to stop talking to someone's partner unless that partner makes the demand to you directly.

[@cryofist]

on the plus side you know none of those other ones were worth it either because they said nothing to you about this

[@JodyBruchon]

@@cryofist That's not really how social behavior works.

[@ineedhoez]

Amen! People are such cowards. If you are going to block the person anyway, you might as well tell them.

[@ineedhoez]

​@cryofist I agree. A bunch of cowards.

[@rene280195]

​@@JodyBruchontrue but You need to think about it, are they people that are worth to have around if they can't tell You this? Like I get most people don't have the mental or emotional strengh to deal with drama but in reality isn't that a flaw? Is You can't do the right thing because it botters You, then the problem is You, not the drama itself. TLDR: being a coward is a problem, and coward people are not worth the trust.

[@Bleg94]

1. Story: The wife is cheating with Berta, be it physically or emotionally She is either building or already has an artroom Also did I understand OP correct? That bs is already going on for 10 years?

[@frozenheart7133]

Love the Artroom throwback 😊

[@owl7072]

Story 1: "They both got upset." Man, maybe if they quit springing her presence on Op, and I don't know, actually asked and gave him notice, it wouldn't be as much of an issue.

[@hi_stranger9156]

Story 2: I know, OP mention that she doesn't want to cause drama. But she should just tell Vince and be done with it. The whole situation is unecessary drama.

[@Blaetant.aerys.tauraus]

I understand where OP is coming from, not my circus not my monkeys and all, but from what this unhinged ass girl is doing what's gonna stop her from causing even more drama in the future by showing up at OP's job and most of all their house. I would've just told Vince AND distanced myself from both him and the unnecessary drama.

[@deborahyoung1873]

2nd story, I wouldn't put up with anyone threatening me. I would tell her to grow up and if she showed up at my work she would be sorry she ever started this crap.

[@robertx8020]

@@deborahyoung1873 Sure ..and then she shows up with a gun and kills you...but at least you showed how brave you were /s Do you know how crazy this b*** is? I don't but I've seen plenty of crazy ppl to know to be careful

[@Lordofthelosers01]

After the update OP should tell her work at the very least because this unhinged woman will escalate. She already came back after accusing OP of communicating with the ex on LinkedIn, she will escalate this behaviour to OP workplace

[@xellosmakuzo2586]

I think whether OP likes it or not she is unintentionally involved in the drama because Vince’s girlfriend has dragged her into it.

[@owl7072]

Story 2: I mean, I feel Vince should know cause if an ex, someone your partner rarely talks to, is causing turmoil by _~checks notes~_ liking pictures and saying happy birthday, I'd hate to know what she's potentially saying to any actual friends or possibly family. Edit: Yeah Vince definitely deserves to know if he doesn't already. She's having a hissy fit over a _LinkedIn account._

[@LiveLocallyNow]

Imagine her spending hours combing through his linkedin…if that’s even possible

[@katphish30]

100% I have a very similar relationship with my first husband, and my husband doesn't mind a bit because he knows there's nothing else there.

[@dandotvid]

Story 2: If I was ever dating someone and they pulled that shit behind my back, I'd want to know. Vince needs to be made aware of this behavior. It's not normal or healthy.

[@aethertoast4320]

Syory 1 is really sad for OP. Even if the wife and Berta aren't having an affair the way she is treating him shows that she doesn't really care about OP. No matter what this is just depressing for him to be in such an empty relationship. On story 2 OP needs to tell Vince what happened.

[@cnow82]

I would tell Vince after the second message. She sounds crazy. Getting him to tell her to back off is a necessary evil. She’s f%*king insane.

[@Enderslegend]

Story 2: Mark’s reply is the reason this is the only Reddit drama channel I actually subscribe to. Channels like Lost Genre were massively hypocritical say “drama bad” and say the guy didn’t deserve a warning but would have been tripping over themselves if it had been a guy messaging some woman’s instagram list.

[@acatnamedm4529]

Story 2: I have plenty of high school friends who I only see via social media. I would be weirded out if one of their partners contacted me to stop following them. I would definitely let Vince know about the situation and let them decide how to proceed.

[@justinebidulopoutchini9774]

Story 2 : op says she doesn’t want to be involved, but at this point, the gf is involving her. She should definitely tell Vince

[@sonialinsey8083]

Oh Vince would have gotten screenshots immediately

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

Yea, I would have sent him a msg telling him to get his unhinged girlfriend under control. If he doesn’t know what going on and he tries to send her birthday wishes/wishes for New Year’s, he might be hurt hat she felt the need to block him when he hadn’t done anything to warrant the blocking. At least if he’s informed of what his girlfriend is doing, he can nip that crazy in the butt!

[@Ashbrash1998]

Story 1: The wife is the AH for nor considering OP's feelings in the situation. Because maybe for her Bertha is like a sister ao she is 100% comfortable around her and doesnt mind helping her, OP doesn't. It's his house too and Berta isn't his friend at all, she's a guest in their house so he won't be able to relax. Let alone the rudeness of not being 100% honest of her situation and how long she's staying, etc

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

I’m kind of gobsmacked that the wife is ok with expecting her husband to support her and Berta. She definitely needs a reality check. She needs to get a job. There is no reason for anybody sitting at home (excluding disabled), especially when there are not any children involved. Why doesn’t Berta have a job to support herself? Sounds like a woman looking to have others take care of her like she’s still a child…aka entitled gold digger! I feel for all the men who have had to deal with her in the past…and future 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@PuppyKatt]

Story 1 is sending shivers right through me. Ask your wife point blank. cancel your permission on the bank account(s) and credit cards. Tell them both to get off of their azzes and get at least a part time job.

[@Sherwoody]

Op needs to ask his wife who she wants to be married to, him or Berta. Even if Berta moves out, OP’s wife still find ways to support her with OP’s money.

[@ineedhoez]

Yes, do this if you want to divorce. This is a massive escalation.

[@akl2k7]

@@ineedhoez The wife already escalated it by getting into bed with her friend while they're both bi.

[@Bleg94]

@@ineedhoez I mean ... the situation is long beyond the point where that escalation is needed ...

[@tiffanyhaddox7499]

In the last story, OP should let her job know, keep a record of everything from crazy chick, and send screenshots to Vic with the message that she doesn’t have time to deal with his crazy side chick. Then block him.

[@blandoatmeal1273]

Story 1 Wait... So OPs saying money was tight with his wife not working and a third mouth to feed, but the reason his wife was not working was so that she could stay home and take care of a different third mouth to feed. When discussing kids I think they might have looked at one part of the problem and missed a big one. ie they saw that OP wife's salary was less than daycare where they live so decided she should stay home but didn't look to see if OPs salary would cover the cost of a baby and two adults.

[@ineedhoez]

That part....

[@hodgeelmwood8677]

Frankly, I could not see any sense in her not working specifically so that they could try for a baby. Even without Berta there, babies are expensive! How were they planning to feed and care for a child on his salary alone? I sympathize with OP and I'd want Berta out too, but not so that she could be replaced with a child.

[@LotusBloom0309]

I’ve been divorced from my ex for 21 years. Once or twice a year, we will send a two line message to each other. Usually letting each other know if there is a death in the family or the occasional happy birthday when we remember it. We are both remarried and live clear across the country from each other. Neither spouse has an issue with this. This is how adults act. That jealous little girl needs to grow up.

[@hmspretender]

Finally story. OP NEEDS to tell Vince. If this is/was a friend of yours they deserve to know that their SO is acting this way. For her to not say anything shows that he really was never a friend and/or OP has such a small backbone that she won't even stand up for herself let alone friends/old friends.

[@Drgnladymom]

That last story...omg.. I'd send Vince screen shots, tell him I'm blocking him and her, but if she contacts me again ANYWHERE, I'm reporting her to the cops. Period.

[@Rukiah1]

Story 2: OP should tell Vince. He could either have an insecure girlfriend or he could have a stalker. After that story with the personal trainer you honestly never know. Either way he should know.

[@queenluciefer]

Wait, what's the personal trainer story?

[@Cassimfan]

A dude's personal trainer was confronted/threatened by her client's wife who turned out to actually be the guy's crazy stalker.@@queenluciefer

[@rachaelclark8465]

Story 1, There IS something going on. What you need to do is when you come home and she is still there, don't say a word. Just start packing your stuff. She (girlfriend) will get the picture.

[@mbyerly9680]

He's paying the bills. Throw them out.

[@s4rcelle]

​@@mbyerly9680IIRC the story says the house is in the wife's name. He'd have to leave, but that also means he can take his name off all the utilities, LOL

[@AraAra6367]

Kind of disappointed OP2 didn’t tell Vince but if he can’t see the crazy, then idk what much else she can do.

[@moonyollie6977]

S1: NTA. "My wife says since it's her home too" nah nah nah. You do not onvite someone to stay for any amount of period without asking your spouse. Bertha HAS overstayed her welcome, and tbh I don't think anything is going to change since she's been pulling stunts like this for forever. S2: A yearly message is causing relationship issues? Girl NTA, his girlfriend needs to get help. Screenshot and message it to him, wtf. Edit: You NEED to tell him, she is unhinged and her needs to know that's who he is dating

[@chaosshiva4165]

Story 2, for the love of god tell the X! If she’s legit scaring you than he needs to know! It sounds like she’s trying to isolate him! This is just the beginning, next, she’ll be telling him that she’s the only family he needs.

[@godzillakungfu]

That was a childish response? No, childish was showing the text to your friend and teaming up against your husband, while supporting two kids. Then when he adds she is BI we understand why he blew up.

[@lilolmecj]

Glad someone else picked up on that. It took him forever to get around to saying this has been going on foot 10 years!

[@catandrobbyflores]

Not to be the stereotypical person but two bi people in a bed... let's call a spade a spade. Cheating most definitely.

[@KateKanenator]

Story 2: Vince needs to know. This girlfriend is unhinged, not OP!!

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Girlfriend is right to be wary of OP. OP claims she’s not even friends with Vince, but she’s still living on the same planet as him? Curious.

[@owl7072]

Op claims to not be friends with Vince but still lives in the same galaxy, awfully suspicious and a clear threat if I've ever seen one 🤔

[@Bala_Niranna]

Average r/relationships commenter

[@juliearmfield2634]

Op is such a trollop pining away for him like she is. She really should be ashamed of herself. I bet she sent some ankle pics too, the s***. 😂

[@IgrisBloodRed91]

Well, they’re breathing the same air as Vince, seems like a physical affair to me.

[@deppnut1]

I almost missed the sarcasm 😂😂

[@papakumabear]

We had a family friend like that too and I was always weirded out by it as a kid. To this day I know nothing about their life - they stopped coming around when I was around 12 and I never heard about them again. Families are strange.

[@PuppyKatt]

Story 2: Tell Vince. Please. If she is uttering threats, she is a psycho. I still keep in touch with a few of my exes, because although we no longer "love" each other, we still care FOR each other. I have never been threatened, nor have my new bfs, by either mine or their exes. You must let Vince know that she is harassing you and threatening you. He may himself be in danger of her jealous, possessive azz going psycho on him. Also, if these threats include bodily harm, you MUST contact the police. Keep all messages. Please, be careful.

[@tashawilliams87]

Ahh perfectly timed. I'm sure my son relaxes to your voice because I listened so much while pregnant 😂

[@Akemi.24-45]

Aww... That's too cute. ♥️🤗

[@pastelroswell]

That's cute and hilarious lol

[@clarrie93]

I love how everyone telling OP not to be passive aggressive, while the whole time, I was thinking that I would even more passive aggressive if I'm in OP's situation. Like if your friend can stay in our house, then hell, mine can too. Lets live together all 4 of us. You can support your friend, I will support mine

[@Taecoconut]

There’s no issues with still staying in contact with an ex especially if it’s one that wasn’t serious. OP needs to send Vince the messages and those saying she’s unhinged for contacting him and messaging him on bdays etc… it takes two to tango. VINCE DOESNT HAVE TO ANSWER OR MESSAGE HER BACK IF HE DOESNT WANT TO. The fact that Vince’s finance is messaging OP that stuff means she hasn’t said anything to Vince and it’s jealousy

[@cryofist]

shes prolly not even his fiance, sorry but this like exactly the kind of girl who thinks that but is way off. i bet vince just thinks of her as a regular g/f

[@littlegreycat]

I was in the tell vince crowd when i read the last update. And i hope she does warn her employer about this crazy woman.

[@aga3852]

Last story, you need to not be a 'coward'. Like it or not, this will follow you simply for the fact that she knows you exist. Not doing anything but blocking will only paint a big target on your back and basically burning any safety net you can have by announcing to the poor guy about this pyscho girlfriend.

[@ineedhoez]

That part

[@vt4880]

Almost all the OPs are cowards on these Reddit story’s lol

[@francissobotka8725]

The wife and Berta are fucking.Op needs to have a come to Jesus talk with his wife and make her choose between the relationship with OP or her "friendship" with Berta.

[@BunnyHoneySugar]

A come to jesus talk? Dude she's gay, just break up with her and find someone who is actually into you.

[@johnbradbury8610]

Op is too much of a doormat. He will probably have to wait until he sees it in front of him and he will probably forgive her. Simps gonna simp.

[@__.cat.__]

Cleaning snow on the way to the outdoor cat house🐱👍 Thanks for voicing the stories 🐈🐈‍⬛

[@chinaking918]

Whenever I hear about situations where someone in a relationship is too close to a friend (ie putting them above any and everything/body) of the same sex the art room is the first thing that pop in my head lmao. I can’t help it now. I’ll say something like I’m getting art room vibes lol iykyk 🤭

[@sandeesandwich2180]

S1: The Art Room! If she starts repainting a room for Berta, bail! S2: I think OP should tell Vince. One message with screenshots and be done with it. That dude is going to turn around and wonder where all his friends have gone. His GF is totally cray-cray and he needs to know for his own safety.

[@victoraugusto743]

I don't get the reference, can you explain?

[@thatdellgirl14]

​@@victoraugusto743 im in the same boat of understanding. Ill wait for the response with ypu😂

[@blackbird4852]

@@victoraugusto743 If its the artroom message, that refers to a rather iconic story Mark read a while back. I can't find his video on it anymore sadly and I think the original post was deleted, but a best of redditor updates post saved it. Links are tricky but you can find it under the title "OOP wonders if they're the AH for starting a house project without discussing it with their wife". It has made quite the rounds and has become a referance for any situation when someone has a clear interest in "just a friend" but denies it no matter how obvious the signs.

[@SenseiRaisen]

i will explain it: The art room is a story on reddit who is infamous for been a same sex affair, but in this case it was the OP asking if was the AH for housing his friend and transform his guest room into an art room despite his wife opposition. And when the wife was concern how OP spend more time with his friend and brush her concern aside, he stone wall his wife and stay with his friend in that room. Everyone call out OP an AH and feel he is trying to have an affair with his friend. He admit it after everyone call him out and he just so self-centered that he didn't feel sorry for his wife he literally destroy emotionally by having a same sex affair with his friend and get together with him. From that day on, every situation where a couple has a problem due a friend of the same same sex overstay and the one who allow it let it step out any boundaries and disregard the other person feeling was knowing as "an art room situation". So much so, mods ban it to be mentioned.

[@thatdellgirl14]

@@SenseiRaisen oh yeah. I forgot about that. Dude that story was crazy

[@Grimangell135]

Story 1: I get wanting to help a friend out, but that was too much. Treating your significant other like trash while giving charity of your home isn't being a partner, let alone a significant other. Not only that, but I love how she said its her house too without paying anything to it. Call it old fashion if you will, but just cause youre married doesn't give you carte blanche to everything. You have to bring in something to marriage or partnership. If I didnt have a job, I would take over all chores until I found a job when being a roommate.

[@francissobotka8725]

Vince is in for some psycho shit ,Op needs to tell him what's going on .OP owes it to him .

[@Ospyro3em]

There's 2 things that this channel hasn't had lately- first is Mark's iconic "skip the initial waffle" comment that kicked off the Waffle Gang. Second is a nice hearty dose of Tree Law! Tree Law!

[@Commenter839]

Fr, I miss the initial waffle and the "much love" at the beginning 😢

[@heathermiller5765]

​@@Commenter839 Well at least he says it at the end 😁

[@gargur3680]

Yessssss!!!! Fully got a an itch for that now!!!!!

[@bunnyslippers191]

I was thinking about Mark's "Tree Law! Tree Law!" after listening to one of Marks vids just yesterday! I miss Tree Law vids. They are so satisfying when Mark does them.

[@frozenheart7133]

​@@bunnyslippers191I agree! Miss those tree law stories 😅

[@hibiscusrose6074]

Last story that girl is isolating Vince from all his friends

[@Khanjikai]

Sounds to me like Friend is an expert manipulator. She knows how to pull Wife heartstrings. Wife feels torn, understandably. But at the end of the day, marriage means Spouse comes first. That's what the vows are for. Hoping OP and Wife can get themselves on track.

[@matheusbarbo]

Story 2: it might be a controversial opinion, but OP should be telling Vince, it's almost a moral obligation. If this gf is this unhinged, telling him what she's been up to might even save his life for all we know.

[@bunnyslippers191]

Yep, they may not be close now, but they were at one time, even if it ended 13 years ago. It didn't even end with a fight or anything big, it just faded away after a while like so many of those high school things do. It's not as if he were a terrible person. He deserves to know what this insane person is doing. It's a big red flag she's might be trying to completely isolate him from all his friends and family.

[@ineedhoez]

Agreed. Send a screen shot and move on.

[@rebajoe]

11:35 Damn that art room story still got some mileage on it. Story 2: I get this bad feeling that even if op does send Vince screenshots of the texts and let him know what's going on, the gf will intercept them and things will get worse.

[@ScooterBond1970]

Art Room got a lot of miles on it but it still runs like new!

[@StephFish1004]

Story 2: look not wanting to be involved is all fine and good but you already tried that and she’s STILL cyber stalking you. Tell Vince, tell your boss, and honestly maybe tell the police because she seems like the type to escalate to full on stalking and harassment

[@ajzephyros7454]

Sounds like OP's a beard yeah perfect time for an Art Room reference

[@musetorn]

Story 2 The girl who is messaging you is nobody to you. Why are you doing as she tells you? Surely, if she and your ex had agreed to cut you out, HE would have been the one to tell you, or even just block you. She obviously hasn't got his approval on this. If she can't get her own boyfriend to block you, why are you letting a complete stranger dictate to YOU who you keep contact with? I think you should allow your ex to make the decision himself.

[@fergarza4032]

Story 2: that girl reminds me of my husbands cousin, my husband and I are high-school sweethearts so I have known his cousin for more than 10 years, we aren't close but we have a relationship very similiar as OPs, maybe a little bit friendlier. He an my husband have a normal relationship, nothing remarkable Welp his new girlfriend decided I was a problem cause I took him dancing and gave him a hug..... at... my ... wedding... to..... his..... cousin They had a huge fight and she make him block me. The worst part part? He did it So yeaaah, crazy will be crazy, and the jealous ones are the craziest

[@cryofist]

naaaahhhh learned waaaaay back in highschool if someone is trying to make you choose between them and someone else, you pick the person not making you choose because theyre the real friend

[@wendyhadley2764]

Story 1. I see three options for you, option one stop paying the rent and move out. Option 2, jump into bed with them, and drop your pants, say "Wow a three some, i like this idea! Option 3 sit down and talk with your wife, if she refuses go back to one.

[@Akemi.24-45]

Heeello, Mark and Poppy! A joyful Thursday to you both. ♥️🤗

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

💜💜🤗🤗

[@Akemi.24-45]

@@broken_queer_but_fighting8589 Heeeey, Broken! How are you doing? I confess I was kinda worried that you didn't show up here yesterday. Did the doctors have your diagnosis yet?

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@Akemi.24-45 oh sorry I slept in since I had to stay up to 4 am. I'm not having seizures so it's a nerve disorder. But I'm getting to leave tomorrow morning 💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗

[@Akemi.24-45]

@@broken_queer_but_fighting8589 YEEEES!!! You're going home. I'm so happy for you. Did they find out what was wrong? And why did you have to stay awake till 4am? Well, what's important is that you'll be discharged. I'm really happy for you. Enjoy your weekend. Big hugs! ♥️🤗

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@Akemi.24-45 it was to make sure I don't get seizures if I'm sleep deprived, but yeah I'll have to talk to my neurologist but I don't have seizures at least. I'm just having weird nerve issues

[@yamairad1]

Berta sounds more like the wife's lover than a friend.

[@jamieholland3853]

Just finished your last one and you drop another! Most consistent youtuber out here

[@MarkNarrations]

I try my best, thanks so much for being a part of it!

[@jamieholland3853]

​@MarkNarrations thanks, I work in an office so listen to your video all the time or in the shower. P.s fuck berta 😂

[@notevenlistening6072]

Vince got himself a bunny-boiler 😂

[@smashingmolko]

Story 1: Couldn't IMAGINE living like that. No way.

[@AllisonShoog]

I’m distracted by the name Berta wtf

[@samvoss6697]

You should have more subscribers! You don’t use an AI voice, you actually read the updates and comments, and you have a very lovely community here!❤

[@maxinemyers9215]

The art room was a nasty mess!! Thanks Mark🌷

[@clarissagafoor5222]

I`m glad OP - 1st story - mentioned his wife and working. Let`s hope she can get a job and meet more people because it would seem she could make new friends. Wow that second story! - OP should get her partner to contact Vince - let him know what`s going on.

[@Knives7777]

S1: This is the cost of being spineless and letting yourself be used.

[@juanhaines7295]

Friday eve everyone.

[@MarkNarrations]

Hell yeah!! Bring on the WEEEEKKKEEEENNNDDD!

[@immasnakeee6460]

I love how infamous the art room is in the Reddit community. The best reference😂

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

Story 2: If someone crazy is stalking you THEN TELL PEOPLE!!! "Get ahead" of the drama.

[@mztweety1374]

"lil girl, if you dont keep you naiive ass away from me, im gonna be an actual problem."

[@Figcity]

Story 2: she doesn’t even care about the guy…literally said they’re not friends. So leave him alone. It’s not your problem. Having instant access to everyone you’ve ever known and loved is relatively new to humanity, and I think people deserve a little more grace with how they respond to the realities of that.

[@owl7072]

She's 23. She's had 23 years to adjust to that reality as she grew along with it. I'm going to be 23 this year, I definitely know better than to essentially stalk an ex from 13 years ago and have a fit over a LinkedIn account. For Vince's sake Op should tell him cause Op blocked him everywhere she knew to block him and that still wasn't good enough for the gf and she responded with more hostility.

[@KiltBill2]

Yup, OPs fiance was right. Just leave stay out of it. It's the exes drama to sort.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

So Vince should be abused and isolated? Wow and y'all wonder why men dont come forth about being abused esp by a woman and stays in their abusivr relationship. Vince is going to die if he doesnt have one decent person in his life. OP is a bad person for seeing how crazy abusive this woman is and not telling the the victim about it before its too late.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@KiltBill2it'll be OP's fault when she finds out Vince is dead tho

[@Figcity]

@@Kris-wo4pj Vince knows she’s crazy. There’s no way he doesn’t. OP should continue to NOT insert herself into their relationship.

[@lorrainemontagnon1537]

Boy, did we get a good dump of snow yesterday! I needed a pet dispenser of pain meds, but I got it done, lol. Anyway, top of the morning to everyone , much love ❤️ Mark, you know I love your show, keep doing what you do!

[@jenniferkay9789]

If you can, try adding green tea, and some ginger, turmeric, and cayenne into your diet. Processed sugar is a huge inflammatory agent. Also, try binaural beats for pain, and mudras/yoga. They can help, too.

[@kieramaccourt8717]

Hi lorraine! Hope you are having a much needed rest day!

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Well, good to know that this is completely settled, and that there clearly will not be any later developments in this situation.

[@lizthedisjointedzebra692]

I am bi, and it is SO ANNOYING when people think I can't have female friends, or I will cheat. Biphobia is real, and it sucks. HOWEVER, that is not merely a friendship. Even if there is no "romantic" physical contact, there is definitely more than a friendship there, they have an actual relationship, just without the sex(as far as we know). This poor guy is paying for his wife, and his wife's girlfriend, to take advantage of him.

[@jellyriq]

Story 2: commenter saying “I wouldn’t touch that shit either” okay but it’s too late when the shit is already touching you. Getting that second message is what put op in direct contact with the shit and she NEEDS to do something about it. Tell Vince (hey won’t be contacting you anymore because of this), tell her job (hey I think I inadvertently made someone mad and I think they know where I work and I’m worried I’m being stalked), maybe even tell the local pd so if the gf does escalate, they already have an idea of who she is and what’s happening. Edit: ngl she really should have said something to him when she got that first message. Like say it’s been “nice” or whatever keeping in touch but because his gf is a crazy person she can’t anymore and then show the messages and then block him and her everywhere.

[@redundantnspeechless]

The art room... God... That dude...

[@mariyak2214]

ayy right on time for me to get ready thank you mark!

[@MarkNarrations]

You're most welcome, thank YOU for being here :)

[@HodajuciParadoks]

I hate people coming over without asking, just showing up. It is not ok.

[@HodajuciParadoks]

The more I listen to the story, she might having an affair with that woman. Cuddles and in same bed...and they are both BI...yeah, she is cheating. 100%

[@Burglar-King]

Story 2 The woman is stalking OP. Red red red flag. Get your fiancée tell her he will get a restraining order on her if he bothers you again.

[@wmdkitty]

S2: Um... girl. *_TELL HIM._* Dude probably already knows he's dating crazy, but I don't think he knows just _how_ crazy that person is.

[@devegas4910]

Story 1: NTA. Wife is building an art studio with Berta

[@thunderkrux7745]

The idea that “it’s my house too so you can’t say who I can and can’t have as guests,” should be “I know I can’t impose guests on you,”

[@Palkiana]

I would tell Vince after the linkedin comment, and I would 100% let my workplace know as well. This girl is unhinged.

[@katglad]

Best channel

[@MarkNarrations]

Awwww!!!

[@heathermiller5765]

@katglad Agreed! 🥰

[@huinismith]

Story 1: Anyone else is perceiving "art room story" vibes from this one, even before the revelation about OP's wife? ETA: Oh, Mark mentioned it! Lol!

[@rhiannoncarney9380]

Story 1: NTA, I reminded of a saying about fish and unwanted guests, after 3 days they BOTH STINK!!

[@idontknowmyfruits2194]

Without getting through anything but the story I’m already wondering if the wife is cheating on him with her idk if Reddit stories have broken me or of this is actually weird in that way but the thought remains persistent 🤣 ETA: well glad I’m not the only one lol, I hope things work out for OP. His wife should definitely focus on fixing her own stuff, helping our friends is important but not at the expense of all our other loved ones. For story 2 in my opinion OP shouldve explicitly told Vince and his crazy gf to keep it away from her with screenshots so they know exactly what behavior she is talking about then block both. Before doing so I would also make it clear I will take all steps necessary to ensure my safety and her safety + well being + future is not my concern if she makes herself a threat to me.

[@Bala_Niranna]

I will never understand the ideology of "you dont treat your ex like a pariah? A he who shall not be named? Whats wrong with you??" Like if things ended well, why do you need to block them on everything and never interact? Thats weird. Both my exes sucked but if they didnt we'd probably have a casually cordeal relationship like op and vince

[@loganjoh1]

I still think something was going on in that bedroom between the wife and Berta. If anything something would’ve happened if OP didn’t walk in

[@LoveableNiki]

Story 2: This happens more than you'd think. When it happens to me, I ignore the message. For me, it's always in reference to a guy I haven't talked to in years. In OP's case, I would have ss the messages, contacted Vince, and be done with it. I would do this because OP does "talk" to Vince sometimes.

[@mindyschocolate]

19:00 OP needs to stand up to this crazy little girl. She’s 23. Put her in her place.

[@tully6648]

Story 2: I really wish OP would tell Vince what's going on. If I were Vince, I would want to know. The GF's actions are really, really worrying. At the very least, Redditors should put themselves in his shoes and imagine how they would feel if they learned the person they were seeing was doing this and they had no idea. It's horrifying, honestly. Of course, I see Reddit is Reddit-ing. I swear, some of them aren't satisfied unless you move to the moon and cut off all contact with _anyone_ connected to your ex, including the hairdresser of a friend of a cousin who once mentioned the ex's name in passing while sitting in the chair. Or maybe they're just telling on themselves, IDK.

[@blix_xo]

S2: I would have just rolled my eyes and let it go. I know my feelings towards friends, if we are good, we are good. OP clearly explained nothing was going on and it was a brief message. Just that, a message. The gf got a small pass to speak her worry, uh sure? I'd let it pass but the fact she approached again, girl, you're starting trouble. And it really does make you wonder if she is isolating him from any other female interactions. You never know. And with that id give him a heads up. Not my fault, not my worry if the gf came up a second time.

[@RyuClaudius]

I do wonder who cantacts who first in the second story like is it always Vince who initiates the small talks and New Year greetings or they both do. considering there's a lot of stories where people mistakes others' kindness for "hidden affection"

[@Pepperjack1986]

For Story 2: something similar has happened to me twice. I was messaged by a college ex's then-girlfriend to grill me about the fact that he'd seen me that day (we still lived in the same town, and I worked at a store not too far from where he lived. He'd said hi when he was shopping, and that was it). The second time was a high school ex's then-love interest (they weren't official at the time) messaging me to grill me for details about an injury he'd suffered, wanting to compare what he'd told her to what he'd told me. In both these cases, I'd not only never spoken to either of these women before, but also hadn't known either of the exes had been dating anyone at all at the time. So random. I didn't respond to either. Edited to add that in each case, I hadn't dated either ex for several years at those points.

[@dm9078]

This is not going to end well for OP. Called it. Modern men 🤦🏽‍♂️ They were in bed cuddling because it’s what they have been doing for a damn long time!

[@BraveryWing26]

I am so glad 1st OP won out and wife will set boundaries with Bertha.

[@MCBRUCE76]

S1: They say that "An idle mind is the devil's workshop" which is what is exactly happening with OP's wife. Good for OP, getting family and friends involved in this matter, and they all accepted that OP was in the RIGHT. The instance of family and friends getting involved and siding with OP must have shaken up OP's wife. She had the gall to say that this is also her house, while she slacked all day long, gossiping with her deadbeat friend, and spending OP's hard-earned money. Please don't entertain or encourage your partner's to become slackers, by suggesting them to become housewife. Work and income keeps their mind busy and also makes them responsible financially. Wife of course saw where this whole incident was going, so she tucked her tail between her legs.

[@secretskull21]

16:46 It’s like these people haven’t had a healthy relationship a day in their miserable lives. Being friendly towards someone you used to be in a relationship with is the normal, expected thing to do, unless it ended badly.

[@aurora4218]

The only married friend that I've been totally comfortable hanging out in their bed is my friend who has her own bed and her husband has his. They share a room, and I'm under the impression that they have sleepovers, but each has their own sleeping space where they set the rules

[@Becks-and-books]

Story 1: I believe she gets a job when I see it. Idk if I believe she’ll turn around for OP but I’m hoping 2: I feel so bad for Vince. He deserves to know. I get she’s trying to keep safe but idk if she can on that level of unhinged