Climbing - athletic program design overview

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[@joemason9648]

This is all interesting, I learned a lot from this video. please continue with your exploration of Herbertism ideas.

[@dpad2480]

Thanks mark love this mini series a lot. Climbing has to be the hardest to train in the proper sense (outside the pull-ups style basics like you mentioned) because it’s extremely environment dependent. Of the ten herbertism skills, it’s probably the least accessible, depending on your location. Fighting you need a club or school and partners but they are plentiful in most places but limited in that it’s usually a class that has fixed times and places to train, you can’t just learn to fight by yourself in the yard unless you live with someone skilled who can teach you. Swimming in Australia where I am is super easy for most people, beaches plentiful and pools plentiful both at houses and apartments and local government pools if you haven’t got one, plus literally everyone learns swimming for about ten years at school it’s mandatory everywhere, but I imagine in places like the mid west and other areas around the world it could be impossible. Climbing for the herbertism skill I think is the surface climbing and rope climbing up buildings etc, being able to climb a wall or rock face, up a tree or combining with jumping and balance for low level vaulting and bouldering style of movement like crossing a fjord or glacier or jungle stream. You really need someone to teach you to high rope rock climbing or you will probably fall and die, or for urban climbing (parkour) need a teacher as well and place to practice. Like you said, climbing is about the legs as much as the arms, kind of like rowing, arms are a guiding accessory, power and endurance is in the legs. Pull ups and muscle ups good for maybe pulling yourself on to a boat if you fall overboard in a life skill sense, but you don’t need to do a hundred of them. There is a well known training facility in Australia that is run and owned by ex special forces operators, they focus on special ops preparation, military prep and police special weapons and tactics prep plus a small civilian cadre of gen prep training and have extremely stringent entry criteria. In their material they cover off many but not all of the herbertism skills, for programming climbing they don’t program it in the workout at all, even though they have pulling movements. They say climb at every opportunity, on your days off before and after workouts, make it your hobby and passion basically because it’s so integral and vital to what they do. They also put fighting in the same category more or less, basically they make climbing and fighting a do it as much as possible unregulated effort piece, because it is vital and probably really hard to quantify program wise. For me, my climbing is certainly lacking, I hit 55 pull-ups twice a week, plus 30 pull ups on rings once a week, and occasionally climb some trees. I have a weight vest as item on the list for when I can afford it, will cut the volume to practice pulling with weight which is probably my more life skill relevant. There is a bouldering place, an indoor high rope rock climbing place and out door rock climbing place all about 20 mins walk from me so I should probs add that in to the rotation. Thanks for the video loving your work. Have three of your programs now, will keep picking up more as finances permit.

[@YanisTaraud]

In his books, Georges Hébert (by the way, it would be 'hebertism' with only one 'R') classifies quadrupedal walks and run within the climbing exercises. Balance work falls in this category as well, for the record : 'climb or cross various obstacles where balance is hard to maintain'. Crawling uphill, especially if you're dragging some kind of load, would activate pretty much the same muscles than climbing a rock face I guess, the arms and legs motions would be very similar. Something to consider if you don't have access to a climbing environment.

[@shantanusapru]

@D Pad: "Climbing has to be the hardest to train in the proper sense...because it’s extremely environment dependent. ..Of the ten herbertism skills, it’s probably the least accessible, depending on your location..." --- A cheap & accessible way around it, which is also efficient & effective, is hanging a sturdy rope on a sturdy rafter (or various hook/ring or other mechanical set ups) or from the ceiling... or even from a tree... Just sayin'... One cannot do ALL kinds of climbing, but can do many kinds of climbing techniques & movements/exercises -- enough to build strength, muscularity & even endurance...and it's great for the grip/forearms as well...

[@shantanusapru]

@@YanisTaraud Cool! I'll delete my comment then. And you can delete this one as well, as both are superfluous now... :-)

[@UBO58]

Hi Mark, not related to this video, but I would like to draw your attention to the fact that an older video of yours is no longer online: THE GREATEST SQUAT IN THE WORLD - the almighty DECK SQUAT. (destroyer of souls) Hope this helps and best regards from Germany

[@maxpower8052]

Great discussion, I'd be interested to see more on climbing

[@guydiaz8693]

Where would I incorporate climbing training (w/ rings) into a program along with KB and Club?

[@MarkWildman]

2 days a week, where ever it fits.

[@Fwibos]

sadly I am doing hypergravity climbing and It will take months to take off the weight belt

[@ChrisHurstyyy]

Been wanting to get into rings, but unsure of the fundamentals. Any sources you’d recommend?

[@maxpower8052]

I cannot do all the things on this video, but I like the exercises presented here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5zaZ52sr7CCrKc

[@MarkWildman]

Power monkey?

[@heyitsmort7744]

Mark, have you done a muscle up series yet? Would love your perspective on that both for high bar and rings.

[@MarkWildman]

I have not. I’d love to do it but I’d have to have a place I could actually train that consistently. Not easy since quarantine