That time WWF gave a real fascist an undefeated streak!

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Markyd123

Markyd123

10 ай бұрын

#wwe #raw #wrestling
Welcome back to ring of the hawk season 4. Today it’s a very interesting video which came from a Patreon request from Jacob Hogan. He asked me to cover the run if Ludwig Borga a Finnish wrestler who appeared in the WWF in 1993. He was given an undefeated streak and there were discussions of giving him the wwf heavyweight title. It’s probably a good thing they didn’t do that because I turned out Borga was a controversial figure. He was racist, homophobic and a bully. He was not liked backstage and everyone was scared of him.
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@Sh0tgunJust1ce
@Sh0tgunJust1ce 10 ай бұрын
A lot of idiots nowadays call anyone who disagrees with them a fascist or white supremacist, but make no mistake, Ludvig Borga was EXACTLY THAT. Marky's not exaggerating here, Borga was a vile human being and as sad as it is to say about another person's death, the world is a better place without him in it.
@VXGaming
@VXGaming 10 ай бұрын
Facts.
@hansjuker8296
@hansjuker8296 10 ай бұрын
Seems like a decent bloke.
@senchoumimikyu
@senchoumimikyu 10 ай бұрын
It's not vile to care about your own nation and history and not want them to be destroyed by foreign subversives.
@TheFailedmessiah
@TheFailedmessiah 10 ай бұрын
Things get blown out or proportion a lot of times tho.
@tonchigaming7238
@tonchigaming7238 10 ай бұрын
@@senchoumimikyuBigot alert 🚨
@MattHall05
@MattHall05 10 ай бұрын
Borga looks like a cross between Dave Finlay & Brock Lesnar
@TheLokiBiz
@TheLokiBiz 10 ай бұрын
I'd throw in a pinch of Heidenreich too, maybe.
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 10 ай бұрын
@@TheLokiBiz Rapenreich
@Drew_D
@Drew_D 10 ай бұрын
I can totally see the resemblance.
@aaronstockman2790
@aaronstockman2790 9 ай бұрын
You mean Brock Lesner looks like him.
@perrisneuman4896
@perrisneuman4896 9 ай бұрын
Fit Fascist XD
@ReinEngel
@ReinEngel 10 ай бұрын
People may ask "where were you when Tatanka's streak was broken?" and you'll always answer "I don't know."
@comradecam9530
@comradecam9530 10 ай бұрын
I was talking to a friend the other day about how Tanaka deserved better. He should've been IC champion, instead they spent all that time building him up and getting him over just to drop it all in a squash match with this clown. Who's time in the company was as brief as it was forgettable.
@jonpotter9510
@jonpotter9510 10 ай бұрын
I know this is a joke but my genuine answer would be “at my grandparents’ house”.
@dominicrigsby8547
@dominicrigsby8547 10 ай бұрын
​@@jonpotter9510I was at my aunt's house
@lacuna17
@lacuna17 10 ай бұрын
​@comradecam9530 his time in the UFC was even shorter. Like maybe a minute. The announcers were making fun of him, saying did he realize he wasn't in the WWF anymore.
@MikeeGG
@MikeeGG 10 ай бұрын
Or…. “What streak??”
@SpeedyDePalma
@SpeedyDePalma 10 ай бұрын
They missed out on calling his finisher the Finn-isher.
@maevethefox5912
@maevethefox5912 5 ай бұрын
But did he ever randomly scream PERKELE! at people xD
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 10 ай бұрын
Anyone remember Eric Escobar? I'm pretty sure he was on Smackdown in 2009 or 2010. He was briefly Vicky Guerrero's on-screen boyfriend before they randomly tried to make him a face. Then he just disappeared. Seems like good fodder for this series.
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 10 ай бұрын
Failed prototype Dolph Ziggler.
@justinhearst
@justinhearst 10 ай бұрын
Damn, i havent heard that name in a long time.
@eltornadoAfm
@eltornadoAfm 10 ай бұрын
I remember him, but I don't think he made either game
@DasNordlicht91
@DasNordlicht91 10 ай бұрын
The particular way he emphasized his last name (“ESSSSSSSc-cobar”), always sticks with me, even if his in-ring work was forgettable.
@johnpenguinthe3rd13
@johnpenguinthe3rd13 10 ай бұрын
I remember him. I actually liked his PRE-WWE main roster work. BEFORE Smackdown, he was the FCW heavyweight champion (which would be equal to being the NXT champion in modern times). Then the poor guy goes to Smackdown and becomes... Vicki Guerroro's boyfriend. Talk about a demotion. LMAO. From what I heard, some main roster road agent decided to be a bully towards him and sabotaged him (Vince would give instructions to the road agent to give to Escobar and the road agent would purposely tell Escobar the complete OPPOSITE thing, just to screw him over. By the time Escobar caught on, he was in hot water). After WWE, I think he went by the name Eric Perez and won every major championship in Puerto Rico (in BOTH of the major wrestling promotions in Puerto Rico).
@GameFanaTICK386
@GameFanaTICK386 10 ай бұрын
This dude was like a Brock Lesner Prototype!
@NexusFantismo
@NexusFantismo 10 ай бұрын
FWIW John Cena is actually The Prototype
@brianbenoit6883
@brianbenoit6883 10 ай бұрын
maybe in looks, but to compare him to Lesnar is an insult. Look at Lesnar's matches in his first run...he was as powerful as anybody else but with the speed and agility of a cruiser weight, plus the fact that he had a technical pedigree to rival Kurt Angle.
@GCAbleism158
@GCAbleism158 10 ай бұрын
At least Brock keeps himself to himself and keeps his mouth shut when it comes to politics.
@33GLOCK
@33GLOCK 10 ай бұрын
​@@NexusFantismonah
@AS_ONYX
@AS_ONYX 10 ай бұрын
@@GCAbleism158 I wish the likes of Cornette, CM Punk, Mick Foley, and Batista would follow suit with Lesnar.
@clockworkorangecassidy1114
@clockworkorangecassidy1114 10 ай бұрын
He looks like someone left a wax brock lesnar too close to a flame
@l2jnichol1986
@l2jnichol1986 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: he was one of Jeremy Irons's heavies in Die Hard With A Vengeance just shortly after leaving WWE.
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 10 ай бұрын
The only ones I remember are Targo and Katya.
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 10 ай бұрын
Can you tell us a scene we would have seen him in? The gold heist, the tunnel,or the boat escape?
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 10 ай бұрын
@@wesleywarsmith1113 He must be almost impossible to spot. They were probably casting the heavies solely based on their appearance (looking either Northern or Eastern European).
@Steambull1
@Steambull1 10 ай бұрын
When interviewed about the experience one time, he mainly spoke of how disgusting it was that Samuel L. Jackson was treated like a star by the crew.
@l2jnichol1986
@l2jnichol1986 10 ай бұрын
@@wesleywarsmith1113He was disguised as a New York cop.
@johnenigma8506
@johnenigma8506 10 ай бұрын
Ludvig Borga sounds like a future Dark Side of the Ring episode.
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 10 ай бұрын
Maybe a darker 30 minutes moves
@DatFugginGuy
@DatFugginGuy 5 ай бұрын
"..stabbing Tatanka over a foot long kielbasa, stating.. "eet vas de last one, Ludvig deserve eet!"
@JLvatron
@JLvatron 2 ай бұрын
Everyone calling him a racist, but it's hard to judge as I don't know any details. Certainly Jim Ross calling him that means nothing, since JR was a liar and a racist himself. As a wrestler he was impressive, and I loved how Ludwig destroyed The Rocker at Summerslam.
@ceevishus4130
@ceevishus4130 Ай бұрын
@@JLvatron he literally was a leader of a neo nazi gang in his homeland, dude went to prison for hate crimes. He became a drug addict and ran for political office. Check out his documentary
@charlesiofaustria7361
@charlesiofaustria7361 10 ай бұрын
As bad as wrestling was in 93, it will always hold a special place in my heart as its the year I got into wrestling.
@tdizzle7812
@tdizzle7812 10 ай бұрын
For me it was the year I got out ....then in 96 I got sucked back in
@owen800xl
@owen800xl 10 ай бұрын
93 was bad?? I always considered the latter half of it pretty damn good!
@tdizzle7812
@tdizzle7812 10 ай бұрын
@@owen800xl yeaaaa I dunno lol I guess it wasn't all bad but I just sort of lost interest
@theonlygoodonehere2259
@theonlygoodonehere2259 10 ай бұрын
ofc because thats how you guys are, willing to ignore the bad when something entertains you so highly, thats what describes the wwe and the people that support it and watch
@owen800xl
@owen800xl 10 ай бұрын
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 This comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Wrestling at any point of time in any company is a mix of good bad.
@TihetrisWeathersby
@TihetrisWeathersby 10 ай бұрын
Dude looks like a character in a 90s video game
@christopherwall2121
@christopherwall2121 6 ай бұрын
You almost expect to see him in the Mad Gear Gang
@Alexandria87
@Alexandria87 5 ай бұрын
He always reminded me of Zangeif from Street Fighter lol
@CaptainPlanet792
@CaptainPlanet792 6 ай бұрын
The exit only tattoo is actually pretty funny.
@juliennecarloalmeida5933
@juliennecarloalmeida5933 10 ай бұрын
Damn that’s the most impressive Slap Nuts entry so far!
@OldDirtyCollector
@OldDirtyCollector 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact. Borga was also in Die Hard with a Vengeance
@kidwaryodproduction
@kidwaryodproduction 10 ай бұрын
Ludwig Borga looks like Fit Finlay + Brock Lesnar combined together 😅
@LessIsMore9260
@LessIsMore9260 10 ай бұрын
Dude had the most non finnish name possible😂
@xilon3
@xilon3 10 ай бұрын
They could had something close to his name that was Tony Halme
@bazzatheblue
@bazzatheblue 10 ай бұрын
I think his real name Halme is also Swedish.
@LessIsMore9260
@LessIsMore9260 10 ай бұрын
@@bazzatheblue thats actually finnish😄 if it would be halmesson then it would be swedish
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 10 ай бұрын
Halme IS a Finnish name.
@Alexandria87
@Alexandria87 5 ай бұрын
I always thought he was Russian when I was little
@nabinkhadka788
@nabinkhadka788 10 ай бұрын
They tried to push this guy so hard. Tatanka was never same after that streak ended
@comradecam9530
@comradecam9530 10 ай бұрын
I've been rewatching RAW from the beginning and yeah, that loss ended his momentum and six months later he's reduced to just being a lacky for Ted Dibiase. It's sad, because he was at his peak and totally deserved to be a star at the time. He would've made a great IC champion.
@charlesiofaustria7361
@charlesiofaustria7361 10 ай бұрын
According to Tatanka in a shoot he was suppose to get the IC title at WM9 but Shawn Michaels pulled some backstage shenanigans at the 11th hour.
@antonmasters8626
@antonmasters8626 10 ай бұрын
Tatanka's win streak went...to this fucking clown? That's a shame. I always liked Tatanka and should've had an IC run
@romacechina
@romacechina 10 ай бұрын
​@@charlesiofaustria7361 No surprise there with HBK, he could have easily have won it back a few months later at KOTR or Summerslam since they had him drop to Marty in May and then won it back before KOTR when Diesel debuted.
@NJ973201
@NJ973201 10 ай бұрын
@@charlesiofaustria7361 Bret Hart also said this in his book and it wasn't until a year later when he and Undertaker told him.
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 9 ай бұрын
Lol that Jeff Jarrett/Pokemon gag will never get old😂
@SheriffOutlaw
@SheriffOutlaw 10 ай бұрын
A wild slapnuts appears! 😂 i swear i say that every time i see him on AEW
@Jajanken98
@Jajanken98 10 ай бұрын
A good one for the Hawk: Dusty Rhodes on ECW at the Ring of the Hawk
@CyrusCageSCWS
@CyrusCageSCWS 10 ай бұрын
Great idea!!
@gerardusch
@gerardusch 6 ай бұрын
He wrestled in Japan between 1990 and 1993 and had some VERY good tag team matches there.
@889654
@889654 10 ай бұрын
Not sure if Jeff Hardy's alter ego, Willow, would qualify for Ring Of The Hawk, but it could be a Was It Any Good? episode.
@joshuabryant9845
@joshuabryant9845 10 ай бұрын
Might be too short of a run unless he can pull footage from years and years ago lol
@NcWcN1
@NcWcN1 10 ай бұрын
Cue the Jeff introspective bit!
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 10 ай бұрын
Or Twitchweed
@clifforddavidson7273
@clifforddavidson7273 10 ай бұрын
I will save everyone time and effort the answer is no
@thekkkdeservesaricocharge273
@thekkkdeservesaricocharge273 10 ай бұрын
@@clifforddavidson7273fuck no* the answer is fuck no😂😂😂
@Metanitejoints
@Metanitejoints 10 ай бұрын
Vince wanted some REAL Life heels to play heels.
@gamerfourlife64
@gamerfourlife64 10 ай бұрын
Oh god i actually remember this guy and i heard JR legit hated this guy hes 100% erased from the wwe for clear reasons
@American-Zero
@American-Zero 10 ай бұрын
He did mention that Borga was a miserable bully and not well liked backstage...nobody really missed him when he left WWE due to injuries.
@RustieFawn
@RustieFawn 10 ай бұрын
There is no good reason to "erase" history. Plenty of vile wwe "superstars" still in the archives to watch.
@Ishbikes
@Ishbikes 10 ай бұрын
@@RustieFawnthey erased Chris didn’t they? Ok then
@RapidPhantom293
@RapidPhantom293 10 ай бұрын
@@RustieFawn Does Chris Benoit ring a bell?
@timothysmith6647
@timothysmith6647 9 ай бұрын
@@RustieFawn You're not erasing history, you are just choosing not to show it or show the asshole in a good light be they fascist or murderer..... pity Snuka couldn't go to trial.
@deonjohnson2302
@deonjohnson2302 10 ай бұрын
Wow Virgil gets a entrance 😂😂
@GoodNyew
@GoodNyew 10 ай бұрын
The whole Virgil run made Piper look like a terrible wrestling coach, I guess after the million dollar man feud Piper stopped training him
@jaritime1406
@jaritime1406 10 ай бұрын
Yer Piper said so on a Superstars in Summer of 91 just before he came back to ring he said i know hes good enough now on his own.. Heres one tho Virgil 87-93 Million Dollar Title half that time Body Guard belongs in WWE HOF right? (I say Yes) But Matt Cardona All Tag titles IC & US title 2007-2019 and i'd say he dosn't thats how far the Midcard has fallen when a lower Midcard jobber to stars like Virgil (He beat jobbers) belongs and a Midcard IC Champ like Ryder dosnt!
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 10 ай бұрын
The funniest shit about all this was how the WWF was trying to make us hate the evil Finns. Most Americans couldn't find Finland on a map or be pressed to name one thing about the country. Nowadays it's a memetastic nation for it's abundance of saunas, rally cars, and complexity of Finnish, but ask a wrestling fan in 1993 if they knew anything about the nation that shelters much of Lapland and... *shrugs*
@Markyd123
@Markyd123 10 ай бұрын
True it was weird to hear Finland mentioned so much on American tv . Like the two countries were massive rivals in 1990s 😂
@googlemyself4091
@googlemyself4091 10 ай бұрын
The most Americans are stupid thing is getting kind of played out. Most Americans no where Finland is, Most Americans don't give a rats as about Finland just like most of the world doesn't give a damn about Finland.
@TrolledBy
@TrolledBy 10 ай бұрын
Rusev was originally built as Russian because the average viewer probably has no idea what or where Bulgaria is. I wonder if Ludwig Borga should've been built from Sweden or Norway with a similar viking gimmick he had in NJPW and outside wrestling.
@penskepc2374
@penskepc2374 10 ай бұрын
Why would we? The US is the most important country in history. What even is a Finland? 😂 🇺🇲 😂
@Harakengard
@Harakengard 10 ай бұрын
Also for being the country with the most metal bands per habitant.
@mthokozisindlovu3358
@mthokozisindlovu3358 10 ай бұрын
Damn, slapnuts really is everywhere. No matter what promotion, show, decade, era that you review
@markymark102189
@markymark102189 10 ай бұрын
Borga would make for a good episode of dark side of the ring
@johnjohn2570
@johnjohn2570 6 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing
@sockbath1367
@sockbath1367 10 ай бұрын
Really like to see Berlyn (Alex Wright) and his run on ROH. I think he had just under 30 matches with that gimmick.
@LordDeBahs
@LordDeBahs 10 ай бұрын
he was over in europe with this gimick
@Joecbg100
@Joecbg100 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Wright on this channel.
@Joshua-hf5ui
@Joshua-hf5ui 10 ай бұрын
Wrestling Bios should do this episode as a special guest
@sharmat1611
@sharmat1611 10 ай бұрын
@@Joshua-hf5uiBIG BRATWURST
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 10 ай бұрын
he kept that WCW gimmick going? i thought it was hated
@NJ973201
@NJ973201 10 ай бұрын
A bit of a note, that final match was taped 10 days before the Rumble (1/12/94) so he was already gone when it aired. It's weird but sometimes they used to have stuff already taped for post-PPV episodes back then.
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 10 ай бұрын
He got a ankle injury and it is a reason why he left.
@jerrym1218
@jerrym1218 10 ай бұрын
When I was watching WWF as a preteen during this time where Borga was on the Heel rise, I was legit scared of this guy Borga. I literally thought that he was going to defeat Lex and Bret Hart, because he was being presented like a credible threat to the main event players.
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 10 ай бұрын
I was worried if he was gonna be the Champion instead of Owen Hart. It would hurt Bret's spot. He could face Bret
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 10 ай бұрын
Also, this guy actually appeared in a New Japan game on the Super Famicom. I believe it was New Japan Pro-Wrestling: Fantastic Story in Tokyo Dome.
@keironhiggspoet
@keironhiggspoet 10 ай бұрын
I once saw him box on Eurosport and singing some weird rap dressed as a Viking on Eurotrash on channel 4 back in the early 2000s. he did the JOB at those also.
@owen800xl
@owen800xl 10 ай бұрын
I was scrolling to see if anyone brought up his music career. One of the most surreal things I've come across. The song was probably Viikinki. Crazily the Quebecers also have a rap song too. Must of been something about that survivor series team....
@keironhiggspoet
@keironhiggspoet 10 ай бұрын
@@owen800xl I watched the video to his song after this review last night!
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
@@owen800xl check out his rap song "Kuningas Voittamaton"
@politefan8141
@politefan8141 5 ай бұрын
I was devastated when Tatanka lost his winning streak. However, for as little time as Ludvig Borga was in the WWF, he did create a lasting impression. So many midcard guys are there for years and you don't even notice when they're gone.
@Hipas_Account
@Hipas_Account 10 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this for so long. As a Finn it's cool to see some light be shown on Borga, and good that his antics outside the ring were told as well, since he was an absolute prick from all accounts. Curiously he had an acting career, and probably the highlight is to see him in Die Hard With a Vengeance as one of the German thugs. Name Ludwig Borga annoys me, since it isn't that Finnish sounding, his real name Toni Halme could've worked.
@Weffi76
@Weffi76 10 ай бұрын
yeah he was realy a nasty dude, I think pretty everytime you saw something in the news about him, it was something bad, I cant even rember anything good comming out what was about him
@Mateus_Carvalho
@Mateus_Carvalho 10 ай бұрын
Have to admit that once I got used to Finnish names from playing FHM, I kinda got boggled about the ring name. Did know the guy was a piece of work already at any rate.
@Popskull_666
@Popskull_666 10 ай бұрын
I remember watching Borga as a kid, He was my favorite heel. He had a great look and he could have been world champion he was such a bad ass. Was really disappointed after SVRSRS 93 as I thought this man was going places. RIP he was a hell of a wrestler.
@TheChodax
@TheChodax 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree.
@sklba632
@sklba632 10 ай бұрын
That's an insane amount of beef Scott is just throwing around like it was nothing.
@Markyd123
@Markyd123 10 ай бұрын
Yea he was insanely strong
@Dr.Meth666
@Dr.Meth666 10 ай бұрын
Big poppa fucking pump is the hook up
@tonecapi6997
@tonecapi6997 10 ай бұрын
​@@Dr.Meth666holla if ya hear me!!!!
@flamethrowerflufsalisbury
@flamethrowerflufsalisbury 10 ай бұрын
Id like to see the fight between Borga & Scott Norton.
@Hustlate
@Hustlate 10 ай бұрын
Check out his tag match against haku and earthquake in japan. Haku and earthquake basically beat him up for real in a ring. He had to flee from japan after that.
@Dr.Meth666
@Dr.Meth666 10 ай бұрын
@@Hustlate link I cant find it .pretty please
@Hustlate
@Hustlate 10 ай бұрын
@@Dr.Meth666 sadly neither can i. It is on documentary about him that aired earlier this year in finland. Fight agains scott norton was lackluster, tony halme (his real name) knocked him out with one suckerpunch.
@Dr.Meth666
@Dr.Meth666 10 ай бұрын
@@Hustlate no fucking way . I gotta see this .Scott Norton was a force to be reckoned with
@Hustlate
@Hustlate 10 ай бұрын
@@Dr.Meth666 so was tony, terrible human being with hard childhood and found an outlet for his difficult childhood. Strength sports, bodybuilding, drugs (both recreational and steroids) and fighting.
@Amit-yy9yi
@Amit-yy9yi 10 ай бұрын
Maybe a perfect character for Dark side of the ring
@scottfitzgerald5309
@scottfitzgerald5309 10 ай бұрын
Its good to go back to the golden years of wrestling every now and then to do some ring of the hawk
@swedesweeper
@swedesweeper 10 ай бұрын
For a while they tryed to make wrestling popular in Sweden, it was when Ludvig Borga was wrestling. i really liked Borga, a legit tough guy.
@bigbossman2162
@bigbossman2162 10 ай бұрын
A couple others you might be interested in is Issac yankem dds ( kane) or G.I Bro ( booker t) Both i'm sure are under thirty matches
@anonluxor470
@anonluxor470 10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but Everytime i look at him all i see is a prototype brock Lesnar
@owen800xl
@owen800xl 10 ай бұрын
My favourite short run in all of wrestling. This character absolutely captivated me as a kid, the dangerous and arrogant aura he gave off I think was unrivalled in wrestling until at least Brock came 9 years later. A big 'what if' for me as the injury (along with all the other things) halted WWF's big plans for him. Having no clue what he got up to I spent the 90s hoping for a return. Despite who he was as a person I will always love this character presentation and the excitement as a kid I had for where this character was going (which ended up being nowhere).
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
I have every single match he had after WWE on my channel + most of his boxing stuffs
@hermanthetosser4219
@hermanthetosser4219 10 ай бұрын
@@jipsumies3435 legendary Finland channel you got there with them top uploads subbed
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
@@hermanthetosser4219 Wow! Thank you🔥🔥🥊🥺
@arturoduran5210
@arturoduran5210 10 ай бұрын
Love that somehow slapnuts appears in a lot of videos outta nowhere lol
@Dr.Meth666
@Dr.Meth666 10 ай бұрын
He's the Forrest Gump of wrestling 🤣🌭
@sklba632
@sklba632 10 ай бұрын
Man, Scott Norton is on a short list of people it might just be easier to lay down and die against than fight.
@ChristopherJames1993
@ChristopherJames1993 10 ай бұрын
Mate, Borga battered Norton, in a shoot fight.
@idlehands1864
@idlehands1864 10 ай бұрын
Norton is too overly muscled. If you go up against someone comparable with that much bulk on you it works against you not for you.
@sklba632
@sklba632 10 ай бұрын
@@ChristopherJames1993 Good for him. I'm not taking my chances, no matter how drunk a guy who can bench triple digits is.
@TheIkaraCult
@TheIkaraCult 10 ай бұрын
that was something I didn't know - Both of these were proper terrifying fuckers, that must have been a scene and a half
@DimJongUn
@DimJongUn 10 ай бұрын
Not as scary as Norton's wife. She almost got him sent to a north korean gulag (true story)
@Real_Name_Jim
@Real_Name_Jim 10 ай бұрын
Tatanka was massively over around this time.
@KIrvin_The_Scholar
@KIrvin_The_Scholar 10 ай бұрын
The mid air delay the steiner's were able to get on those suplexes were a thing of beauty
@ryan4372
@ryan4372 10 ай бұрын
At the start, that was genuinely one of the best fall away Samoan drops I have ever seen, lol. Shame he was a tool because he was fluid in the ring.
@Jay-zk7uw
@Jay-zk7uw 10 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing, can see shades of Vader in his ring work.
@georgiots1409
@georgiots1409 10 ай бұрын
I hated this guy when I was a kid. I did always wonder what happened to him after he disappeared from wrestling.
@ReetinEntertainment
@ReetinEntertainment 10 ай бұрын
I hate him more now as an adult.
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
I freaking love this guy
@ReetinEntertainment
@ReetinEntertainment 10 ай бұрын
@@jipsumies3435 That sounds about right.
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
@@ReetinEntertainment I see things differed because after all the bs he is still a hero in my country and a rolemodel
@ReetinEntertainment
@ReetinEntertainment 10 ай бұрын
@@jipsumies3435 lol, sure thing.
@manredcharles8595
@manredcharles8595 10 ай бұрын
A few Ring of the Hawk suggestions. Eddie Guerrero in ECW Johnny The Bull in WCW Alan Funk in WCW
@borobinson7005
@borobinson7005 10 ай бұрын
Pretty ironic WWF had a wrestler with the last name Roid 😹
@zackfrodsham1259
@zackfrodsham1259 10 ай бұрын
He was pretty solid in the ring and had a great character if he had a bit longer in wwe and didnt have the controversies he would be in the hall of fame
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 10 ай бұрын
Why do I suspect that WWE's refusal to induct "controversial" (I hate that euphemism when we could just say "offensive" instead) people into their Hall of Fame stems not from true moral outrage, but from embarrassed backtracking?
@zackfrodsham1259
@zackfrodsham1259 10 ай бұрын
@@SeasideDetective2 yeah but I'm saying if he had none of that he would be in
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 10 ай бұрын
@@zackfrodsham1259 We could offer all kinds of arguments for why certain people should not be in WWE's Hall of Fame, but in the end it all comes down to public relations. Morality in both the political and corporate arenas is superficial and pragmatic, involving "apologizing" for and condemning actions long after they've occurred and have mostly been forgotten.
@alexandru5369
@alexandru5369 10 ай бұрын
definitely agree about the throw into the punch never seen that before. Definitely hope a big guy uses that it's a good set up into a finisher move
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 10 ай бұрын
I think Agogo(or how to spell?) In AEW did this move
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 10 ай бұрын
@@The80sWolf_It’s similar but different, his is a flapjack leading to the punch while Ogogo’s is a popup leading to the pinch since he can’t be bithered to actually learn to do it properly
@bryansierra0909
@bryansierra0909 10 ай бұрын
HAWK, I would love for you to do a video featuring Scott Steiner promos (and giving your thoughts on them), especially shoot promos. He really ripped Flair a new one on his promos while putting the rival company over.
@Markworth
@Markworth 10 ай бұрын
I have to offer some level of respect to anyone who can look at Scott Norton and think to themselves "Yeah, I could kick his ass in a real fight."
@owen800xl
@owen800xl 10 ай бұрын
This is the same guy that described Randy Couture as 'just a little smurf' and barely bothered training to fight him thinking he would just crush him.
@eltornadoAfm
@eltornadoAfm 10 ай бұрын
I've seen some of his boxing matches. They weren't very good. They were after his wrestling career so maybe that explains it. He did lose to a black man so that makes me happy
@Clandestinemonkey
@Clandestinemonkey 10 ай бұрын
Why do you respect stupid people specifically?
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 9 ай бұрын
​@@eltornadoAfmHe literally got into pro boxing because he was booing the fight between Larry Holmes and Oliver McCall. A local boxing promoter said if you can do better then why don't you fight on my card in the next few weeks, Halme accepted and won! He was definitely a legit tough guy and did decent to win his country's title, even if Finland isn't exactly a boxing country Halme literally didn't train until he took that fight in America on a dare. Yes he did get beat by two black guys I believe with a much smaller and lankier guy knocking him out with one shot, he did also beat a few black guys himself. There's a story about him saving a woman who a man was attempting to r@pe, Halme broke both of his arms and claimed he would have broke both of his legs if the police didn't come in time.
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 9 ай бұрын
@@kevthegoat8774 👌👌
@hanikkmusic
@hanikkmusic 10 ай бұрын
ludwig throwing opponents in the air then give them a punch was the coolest move ,until years later cesaro was doing the same but with uppercut during his wwe days and taking that move with him to AEW
@markwrenn5965
@markwrenn5965 10 ай бұрын
How is Double J always there? It's uncanny
@pigs18
@pigs18 10 ай бұрын
It's a running joke.
@markwrenn5965
@markwrenn5965 10 ай бұрын
@@pigs18 no way!
@christiankallio8586
@christiankallio8586 10 ай бұрын
As a Fin, it REALLY upsets me that he's the only Fin in WWF/E history
@danielstack4158
@danielstack4158 10 ай бұрын
What about Finn Balor?
@sockbath1367
@sockbath1367 10 ай бұрын
@@danielstack4158this is funny👆
@christiankallio8586
@christiankallio8586 10 ай бұрын
@@danielstack4158 He's from Ireland
@SwayzeKobain420
@SwayzeKobain420 10 ай бұрын
​@@christiankallio8586dude literally thought you meant Fin as a name 😂
@SwayzeKobain420
@SwayzeKobain420 10 ай бұрын
​@@danielstack4158he means Finnish as in from Finland 😂
@lilypacastsupper8922
@lilypacastsupper8922 10 ай бұрын
tony halme put out a music album that was pretty decent
@matthewshaffer9427
@matthewshaffer9427 5 ай бұрын
Damn bro, I can't imagine the amount of time you must spend researching, watching, and putting together these videos.... Fantastic work. Thought you deserve that at the very least.
@Markyd123
@Markyd123 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Matthew means a lot bro it’s not always easy.
@neilsmith9066
@neilsmith9066 10 ай бұрын
As an 11 year old kid he def had my attention much like Lesner. He was definitely Scary!!! He’s probably not the only one from Europe
@MoneyHoneyBunny
@MoneyHoneyBunny 6 ай бұрын
This guy is basically what Lars Sullivan woulda been if he didnt get in trouble lol
@de132
@de132 6 ай бұрын
Tbf Lars Sullivan is a far less bad dude than Ludwig Borga
@cleepzy104
@cleepzy104 10 ай бұрын
while watching a markyd video he drops a new one, today is a good day
@joeramos4489
@joeramos4489 10 ай бұрын
my older brother used to give me those rib punches that Borga would throw
@terryterryd
@terryterryd 10 ай бұрын
Scott Steiner: "HE'S FIN!!" 😁
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
I made two part documentary about his career and life, did you use it as a source or did you just read stuff online? I'm just curious, nice video, many Americans make a lot of mistakes in Borga videos. You only had one mistake i noticed. Amateur boxing career. There was no amateur run
@xilon3
@xilon3 10 ай бұрын
Finally!!!! Thanks Mark for keeping your promise!
@bbb4228
@bbb4228 10 ай бұрын
Borga is quoted as saying “if a lesbian can be president of Finland and I can be a member of Parliament, anything seems possible.” Their president was never a lesbian lol.
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
It was a famous rumor all around the news.Tarha Halonen, short, fat, redhead who founded movement called (this is a real name, i'm not making this up) "Rainbow people's rights party" + it was late 90s early 00s and she famously looked like Conan O Brien, they even met bacause of that.. So.. That's why.. Great president, hope she's doing well but that's what everyone was thinking about
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
Woman who people called Conan all around the world, got called a lesbian in that time.. shocking
@Hustlate
@Hustlate 10 ай бұрын
There was popular joke at the time he said that. ”Tony halme called president tarja halonen lesbian and later apologized to tarja about it, if tarja would call tony gay she would have to apologize all the gay people”
@BigmanDogs
@BigmanDogs 10 ай бұрын
As one of the few Nordic wrestling fans out there, we really don't send our best.
@turkishjanitor3666
@turkishjanitor3666 10 ай бұрын
Virgin Ludwig Borga vs Chad Tor Johnson
@realtalunkarku
@realtalunkarku 10 ай бұрын
The singer of sabaton would look cool in a ring
@JarJarBinks4ever
@JarJarBinks4ever 10 ай бұрын
Implying Finland is Nordic
@BigmanDogs
@BigmanDogs 10 ай бұрын
@@JarJarBinks4ever Finland is a Nordic country, but not scandinavian. Only Norway Sweden and Denmark is scandinavian.
@chocobros1
@chocobros1 10 ай бұрын
The WWF run of Ludvig the Fin Smack yourself every time he wins
@aperson5215
@aperson5215 10 ай бұрын
Will I have to Smack myself with a Grin when the Fin gets a Win?
@chocobros1
@chocobros1 10 ай бұрын
@@aperson5215 It would be a Sin not to Smack yourself with a Grin every time the Fin gets a Win, especially if it's via Pin, in which case you have to throw yourself in the Bin
@aperson5215
@aperson5215 10 ай бұрын
@@chocobros1 I would rather have a twin to throw in the bin every win via pin so I am able drink some gin while slapping myself with a Grin during the Fins wins even if The Fin also deserves the Bin
@chocobros1
@chocobros1 10 ай бұрын
@@aperson5215 but your twin is your kin and it's a sin to throw your kin in a bin, even if it lets you drink gin out of the tin until you spin with a grin on your chin instead of being binned every time the fin gets a win with a pin.
@aperson5215
@aperson5215 10 ай бұрын
@@chocobros1 Even if the twin was my kin I'd still throw them in the bin so I can spin my chin in an inn everytime the Fin gets a win via pin in the Ring
@carlrice1774
@carlrice1774 10 ай бұрын
Man, Jeff Jarrett must have a Lazerus pit, it seems he's been wrestling for like 100 years!
@JUYAN16
@JUYAN16 10 ай бұрын
'As the juice pours out of his roid holes.' lol
@Diabolicalbeanr
@Diabolicalbeanr 10 ай бұрын
Ngl never knew supernova (ECW) was on WWF before ECW pretty crazy ngl
@worstcasescenario5242
@worstcasescenario5242 10 ай бұрын
I'm confused cuz you always hear about the ankle-injury, but he himself said that he broke his back in a match with Razor Ramon when they slipped while trying to do Razor's Edge off the top rope
@jipsumies3435
@jipsumies3435 10 ай бұрын
Both. Back was the main reason but it only got worse over the years. Angle took him out for 6mouths also
@worstcasescenario5242
@worstcasescenario5242 10 ай бұрын
Can you find this match with Razor anywhere?@@jipsumies3435
@seanchan4478
@seanchan4478 10 ай бұрын
People will pay a lot of money to see a guy they don't like to get knocked out. You give him an undefeated streak, people will keep buying tickets hoping they'll be there when it happens
@Markyd123
@Markyd123 10 ай бұрын
True
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 10 ай бұрын
I'm all but convinced that political correctness has ruined storytelling. Villains are rarely allowed to be truly evil anymore, and as a result have been turned into jokes. Heaven forbid that we would look at supremacist characters from a nuanced perspective, or even sympathize with their feelings even as we condemn their actions. Because contrary to what popular culture depicts, racist/sexist/homophobic people are not just smug bullies, but often tormented and traumatized people, even seeing themselves as the true victims. But even if we insist on depicting these characters as completely irredeemable and deserving of no sympathy, we still need to depict them as competent. I have no problem with a "monster heel" in wrestling being revealed to be a coward deep down, but he should never be a wimp. Too many heels in wrestling are made to look pathetic, as if their only reason for existing is to be laughed at or as if people would never respect the hero unless he cleaned every adversary's clock in record time. I want to see a return to the 1990s pro wrestling narratives - the ones in which the heels were true figures of terror and the babyfaces had to become a little heelish themselves in order to take them down.
@Markyd123
@Markyd123 10 ай бұрын
@@SeasideDetective2 completely agree with you but the guy in question wasn’t telling a story. And agree a again about heels being wimps. If I was the bad guy in a real fight I would do some nasty things to the guy I’m feuding with. It’s just normal.
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 10 ай бұрын
@@Markyd123 I struggle, however, with the idea that actors should be judged by their personal beliefs, or even conceptually annihilated when they perform actual misdeeds outside of the realm of entertainment. When watching an actor, we're supposed to temporarily abandon our belief that he's anything other than his character. And if the character himself is a villain, that should be merely a happy coincidence. Even when the bad man is a professional wrestler, and thus to some extent portraying himself, I try to suspend disbelief. I don't think, for example, that it's hypocritical to continue to think of Chris Benoit as a great hero. If he'd been committing murders the whole time and thus living a lie it would be one thing, but he was not a murderer when he was at the height of his popularity and he never planned on becoming one. Can't we at least remember that he USED to be a good guy?
@Clandestinemonkey
@Clandestinemonkey 10 ай бұрын
I think you want to return to a time when your brain was more smooth. 1990s wrestling 'narratives' were not what you seem to remember. It might have just been that you were a child and perceived them as such. Myself and many people I know have an opposite impression. Wrestling was at an all-time high of cartoony goofy characters in the early 90's. The Undertaker is great but my god he was presented in a way that screams 'this is all fake and is for small children'@@SeasideDetective2
@hatchetmouth8211
@hatchetmouth8211 6 ай бұрын
All that and you still couldn't make me hate him.
@eugeneturner7520
@eugeneturner7520 6 ай бұрын
He wasn't trying to - he complimented the guy multiple times, and saved all the negativity for the "where are they now" part at the end - I'd say he was pretty professional.
@at0micwerew0lf
@at0micwerew0lf 10 ай бұрын
I liked Borga…Hes one of the few WWF guys I liked at the time. Fascinating guy. 🇫🇮R.I.P. Tony Halme🇫🇮
@LJ_in_VR
@LJ_in_VR 10 ай бұрын
Ludvig looks like he ate Glacier
@MikeGodetteMusic
@MikeGodetteMusic 10 ай бұрын
Wow, I randomly had a dream about this guy last night and now I just woke up and saw this video in my feed lol
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 10 ай бұрын
Ludwig Borga was an OK wrestler....... it's like saying Bill Cosby was a funny comedian.... true, but weird to say.
@litodat233
@litodat233 10 ай бұрын
Virgil was basically a glorified jobber lol
@Jajanken98
@Jajanken98 10 ай бұрын
I love when a wild slapnuts appears
@MistarZtv
@MistarZtv 10 ай бұрын
I guess you could say he was the IST
@leeg12000
@leeg12000 10 ай бұрын
Shout-out for party-Marty's sellin' in that match. So underrated old Marty. Love the content bro'.
@Anuskasv0
@Anuskasv0 9 ай бұрын
Oh man Tony was great, very entertaining guy.
@existenceispunishment
@existenceispunishment 10 ай бұрын
Nova has said that Borga knocked him out early in the match (a clothesline i think) and he was loopy for the rest of it.
@KainHRAbel
@KainHRAbel 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I hope Ludvig Borga/Tony won't be the last Finnish wrestler that makes it to WWE or another American pro wrestling show.
@GeorgeWinterborn
@GeorgeWinterborn 9 ай бұрын
He uses Vader’s exact New Japan moveset, down to move form, signature work style, and even the gloves and the corner boxing punches. I didn’t notice at the time, but this was the year I stopped watching wrestling for the first time, so I guess I wasn’t paying much attention.
@DarthSidian
@DarthSidian 10 ай бұрын
Shame this man's life was so fucked. He was an INSANE athlete, and a pioneer in the wider world of mainstream combat sports for his country.
@michaelclassicincorporated4619
@michaelclassicincorporated4619 10 ай бұрын
The First Brock Lesnar Clone 😮
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 6 ай бұрын
Seeing what Scott Steiner looked like in 1993 and what he looks like even just in 2013 is crazy. Could never guess they were the same person.
@kennyking9347
@kennyking9347 10 ай бұрын
🫤 JR said million dollar look? He looks like a Walmart Brock Lesnar.
@Markyd123
@Markyd123 10 ай бұрын
I think he means he looks like a scary believable heel. Which is true.
@kennyking9347
@kennyking9347 10 ай бұрын
@@Markyd123 Fairpoint he does look like a father that would kick your ass
@H61636K
@H61636K 10 ай бұрын
You didn't mention his role in the fist of the north star live action movie.
@xjuhox
@xjuhox 3 ай бұрын
Tony Halme broke his back before his untimed end of his WWE career.
@jbjab99
@jbjab99 5 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: He was in the UFC and fought UFC legend and champion Randy Couture.
@billyboymartin
@billyboymartin 10 ай бұрын
Finally, the episode I've been waiting for. Seriously, I've requested it several times despite being a broke ass jabroni.
@TheFailedmessiah
@TheFailedmessiah 10 ай бұрын
The Hawk did the J O B for free then for you.
@wweminehead5458
@wweminehead5458 10 ай бұрын
Can we have Scott Steiner in RKK for ROH ?
@ericathewwfwcwdivastraight8906
@ericathewwfwcwdivastraight8906 10 ай бұрын
Marky threw Devastating shade on the Jobber lol
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