Married at First Sight Season 9, REUNION(Therapist/Relationship Expert) Review

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Stephanie Lee

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Stephanie Lee, a therapist/relationship expert, gives a recap and review of Married at First Sight: Season 9, REUNION!
In episode the REUNION episode we watch the 4 couples share what they have been doing since Decision Day and if they've stayed together.
The four couples are: Matthew Gwynne & Amber Bowles, Gregory Okotie & Deonna McNeill, Keith Manley & Iris Caldwell, and Elizabeth Bice & Jamie Thompson.
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@abundance6560
@abundance6560 5 жыл бұрын
True Stephaine I really hope Iris moves on. She got the answer from him so now she needs to cut all ties and allow herself to heal and move on.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
Abundance!!! I agree that Iris needs to cut all ties to Keith so that she can move on!
@beautifullife8580
@beautifullife8580 5 жыл бұрын
I truly feel she can do so much better. Especially financially. he does not seem like he is going too far working at a youth camp. Queens need the total package, that youth camp thing would have been a deal-breaker for me.
@for_crys_sake
@for_crys_sake 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@MsDesiree39
@MsDesiree39 4 жыл бұрын
she needs more relationship experience
@MsDesiree39
@MsDesiree39 4 жыл бұрын
@@beautifullife8580 lmao! at least he has a job, queens are putting upo with and having babies with aint shit men like crazy
@zukoher
@zukoher 5 жыл бұрын
We got two seasons in a row of really cruel dudes. If it happens next season, it's a pattern that the show is purposefully doing and that's really sad.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
Zuko Here you’re right!
@lcjones4682
@lcjones4682 5 жыл бұрын
But how they know if a person is cruel. Most people put on a mask and show only their best in the begging. I’m sure Luke and Matt gave great answers to the experts that made it seem like they were marriage material. Heck i meet men all the time that appear to be great until a couple of month later when they remove their mask. Time always shows you a person’s true character.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
LC Jones true. It’s reminds me of someone giving a stellar interview only to end up being a piece of crap, once the actual job begins.
@zukoher
@zukoher 5 жыл бұрын
LC Jones I see where you’re coming from, what I will say is this, only a certain type of person goes out for a show like this and within that group they keep finding these monstrous dudes. They had to have done a background check on these people. None of the lack of family for Matt or the possible homosexuality for Luke was unknown. They knew just like they knew Mia had legal issues. People wouldn’t watch four couples like Greg and Deonna. They choose nut jobs.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
Zuko Here I completely agree! They need the nut jobs for ratings. There were actually 3 not so right guys on the show last season, remember Luke, Will, and AJ??
@mommynab
@mommynab 5 жыл бұрын
When Keith said, "You did your best" to her counter arguments for intimacy, he came about as clean as he would. His expectations of intimacy vs what she could give were not the same and he can't picture her getting to his ideal any time soon. It reminds me of the times she tried like the dice game, the glitter paint, etc... but it was hella awkward. He was trying to skate by with short, PC answers but Kevin Frazer and Iris wouldn't let him off the hook. I'm glad she got a firm no, her closure, she can move on.
@sagittarius1112able
@sagittarius1112able 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly I'm glad you were able to discern this b/c it seems like everyone wants everything spelled out it raw black and white terms. This is what he chose to leave unsaid.
@lanedelon6414
@lanedelon6414 5 жыл бұрын
mommynab right! He finally got tired of them pressuring him. I believe Iris knew what he was thinking b4 D-day but she was hoping he would stay.
@blackknight1906
@blackknight1906 5 жыл бұрын
Lane Delon - Keith was finished with her as a potential wife after she said her biggest secret was swallowing a quarter. Had his grandmother not passed he probably would have shutdown a few week before Decision Day.
@delorisnixon444
@delorisnixon444 5 жыл бұрын
YES!!
@mommynab
@mommynab 5 жыл бұрын
@@sagittarius1112able exactly. He wasn't going to hit her point for point. Just doesn't seem to be his style but there were signs of a disconnect, she visibly shook when he said doggy style and talked about sex. He doesn't see her as someone ready, so "she did her best."
@nikelnicole
@nikelnicole 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Keith was not who Iris needed and Iris was not who Keith needed. I think they look so good together (not only physically but socially - how they were at the reunion when all the couples came out was delightful to watch). I too am concern with Iris. I believe she genuinely love Keith and invested so much into the relationship. BUT still got somethings wrong. I pray that someone will whisper in her ears to be as vulnerable and honest as you can be. Don't only live your best life but be the best version of yourself.
@curlyroe1
@curlyroe1 5 жыл бұрын
He was trying his darndest to not her hurt feelings. That’s an admirable trait, also one that I have taught my children. She raised him to make his own intelligent decisions.
@bathos22
@bathos22 5 жыл бұрын
@Roberta Hargis Yes she did raise him to make his own decisions but that does not mean she should not give him input when he asks for it. He asked for it because he needed it.
@mzbrown6969
@mzbrown6969 5 жыл бұрын
It was something my parents taught me too and when I got older I learned it served no real benefit to myself or the other person. I would have saved myself and others a lot of time, pain and not prolonged the inevitable by being up front. Keith sounded disinterested as soon as the word virgin was dropped. I am sure Iris could have handled rejection better after day one vs fiftysix
@queenathelene
@queenathelene 5 жыл бұрын
I have my doubts about that mama. She gives good face for the camera but behind the scenes I’m sure she had a lot to say. They’re close and Remember she took the virgin news away from Iris and told her son. Awkward, intrusive and unfair.
@wiseeyes81
@wiseeyes81 5 жыл бұрын
didnt want to hurt her feelings? Or didn't want to look like the "bad guy"?
@mzbrown6969
@mzbrown6969 5 жыл бұрын
@@wiseeyes81 leaning more towards the latter
@carameldarling2980
@carameldarling2980 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me who got the vibe that Keith's mum wasn't feeling Iris either? She was there to support her son but would have preferred if he wasn't married to her
@Chiyevo
@Chiyevo 5 жыл бұрын
You are right her IG posts confirm
@SassyDiva53
@SassyDiva53 5 жыл бұрын
And remember his mom's reaction when he said he was doing the experiment 🤔
@briajewell2908
@briajewell2908 5 жыл бұрын
nandi mzansi what’s her ig 👀
@MsMockingbird06
@MsMockingbird06 5 жыл бұрын
Keith and Matt BOTH waisted their partner’s time. They both new early on that they weren’t interested, didn’t give the feedback, weren’t honest, and just kept it going. They could have at least decided not to recommit. They both seemed like they just wanted the checks, meanwhile their wives took the situation more seriously. At least they can admit that they’re not ready for marriage.
@TeeTacklesGoals
@TeeTacklesGoals 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree on Keith. Keith appeared to be putting in some work and appeared to have committed to the process.
@nakiesmith5419
@nakiesmith5419 5 жыл бұрын
@@TeeTacklesGoals what do he do ? He didnt even communicate...
@TeeTacklesGoals
@TeeTacklesGoals 5 жыл бұрын
@@nakiesmith5419 involved her when his grandmother passed, etc. He could have blocked her out totally if he wasn't committed to the general process. I heard he was recruited for the show though so maybe he was only half in.
@Chiyevo
@Chiyevo 5 жыл бұрын
@@TeeTacklesGoals Keith posted on IG and admitted he was inadequate
@beautifullife8580
@beautifullife8580 5 жыл бұрын
@@TeeTacklesGoals He was going through the motions
@Justwatch121
@Justwatch121 5 жыл бұрын
The bottom line is that Keith was on this show because a booking manager found him and asked him if he wanted to be on this show. So he had a different mindset from a person who would sign up to get married. From the start they were on different footing. Which I don’t think is fair. From watching the reunion Iris is still into Keith and holding hope. She kept touching him and turning her body towards him. She needs some reflection and growth and move on. Matt just got signed to play ball for a Mexican team so he got what he wanted. Plus no matter what we think women will line up for him. I really hope Amber gets therapy to work on her abandonment issues. Jaime and Elizabeth need to split, this relationship is abusive and toxic.
@sagittarius1112able
@sagittarius1112able 5 жыл бұрын
From what I understand Iris was also pursuing modelling when she signed up for the show as well, so it isn't just Keith. I'm not sure she wants Keith as much as she doesn't want a divorce on her record.
@Justwatch121
@Justwatch121 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just heard about the modeling Iris is pursuing somewhere else. I agree with you on her not wanting a divorce on her record. I think the show should be honest about where they find the people to be on this show. That way we can watch it with a better understanding but I know they would never do that.
@SonnettOJones
@SonnettOJones 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree is you on Amber, she is obsessed with him! Its like she still wants him to want her.
@jpreddy3665
@jpreddy3665 5 жыл бұрын
Sonnett Spaulding Right! Amber hooking up with randoms is just her way of trying to feel wanted and desired. She is really lost at this point. She really needs individual counseling for her abandonment and self esteem issues!
@bford3977
@bford3977 5 жыл бұрын
@@jpreddy3665 Absolutely. The ONLY way to get through pain is to sit in it. What I do hope is that when she realizes this that she's not in the middle of some breakdown.
@bxshanna83
@bxshanna83 5 жыл бұрын
I think Keith wasn't honest. He might have initially been attracted to her but was turned off. He should have bowed out once he checked out. Maybe no mental stimulation. You right, Iris is too perfect. She is so worried about what people think. She was responding to what people were saying on social media. Saying she is living her best life.
@ladylocs2xcel
@ladylocs2xcel 5 жыл бұрын
Shai Bell girl yes! Iris was embarrassing on that clip! Referring to herself in third person, Iris gonna be ok! Iris is living her best life! Ma’am, you ain’t fooling nobody, including yourself!
@hleziphidhlamini1012
@hleziphidhlamini1012 5 жыл бұрын
Oh she the right to live best life no doubt about that
@bathos22
@bathos22 5 жыл бұрын
Is there anybody in the public eye who does not use social media to check what the audience is saying about him/her? That's what people use social media for.
@bathos22
@bathos22 5 жыл бұрын
Gurl, your well of insight is bottomless! Loved what you said about the role Keith's mom should have played instead of the wishy washy baby food answer she gave him. I will be keeping this in mind when my son comes to me for advice/input. Powerful stuff ma sistah! 🔥🔥🙏 I did not like what I saw in Keith this time. Turns out he is mean spirited and not as smart as I thought. He seemed to be in his ego working hard to prove to himself that his decision was informed by solid reasoning. Iris asking him follow up questions revealed the contradiction he tried to sell as sensible. Keith is smart but this exchange revealed that he is no intellectual match for Iris. Saying Iris is not ready to be a wife was him lashing out. What does that even mean in Iris' case? It's one thing to say Iris is not ready to be his wife but to say she is not ready to be a wife makes no sense at all. He mad that she out maneuvered him. Iris should shut the door. She deserves a mature man who can handle her. Jamie and Elizabeth are impulsive. Makes no sense that they'd be making long term decisions like moving seeing the inflammable house of cards they are building. Amber, Amber, Amber...that she still longs for validation from a man the likes of Matt is bewildering. Women everywhere should run from this wounded putrid soul. Greg and Deonna? Bravo!
@kekelauren6251
@kekelauren6251 5 жыл бұрын
Iris is not ready for the emotional intimacy and the give and take that being a spouse to someone requires. She is also very young girlish and approaches sexual topics like a 14 year old. She makes faces and gets surprised about condom packages. She refers to herself in the third person and cannot read understand what Keith was trying to say. He did not want to crush her and was being very articulate and gentlemanly with the way he was letting her know that she is blindly immature for her age.
@lindapenn640
@lindapenn640 5 жыл бұрын
Keke Lauren yes! So true!
@Beautifulglenda
@Beautifulglenda 5 жыл бұрын
Yes to what you said about Keith 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@mrypllw
@mrypllw 5 жыл бұрын
True but I still believe the producer edit a lot and made Iris look that way. Iris was trying not to look like a slut. Keith respected her, kudos to him. The producer's sliced & diced them differently than they did Greg & Deonna.
@kekelauren6251
@kekelauren6251 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrypllw you say she didn't want to look like a slut, how so? Wanting her husband does not make her a slut, she chose to go on the show and get married to a strange man.
@rivercitygirl3187
@rivercitygirl3187 5 жыл бұрын
Stephanie, I wish, wish that you could be on MAFS as a therapist!!! You have so much to offer and I hope that whoever monitors KZbin from these shows can see how much you have to offer all of the reality stars because I think that is they could stay married if they got counseling from you! I really love how accurate you are. I think the reality stars from TLC could benefit from your counseling.Because at the end of the day we all want for all of them is to be happy!!!
@gwensanders-ayoade9523
@gwensanders-ayoade9523 5 жыл бұрын
Keith just was not into her, I never felt a true connection between the two...thanks for your review...
@stacycrawley3336
@stacycrawley3336 5 жыл бұрын
Gwen Sanders-Ayoade I agree!
@bftscgirl1977
@bftscgirl1977 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I wish people on the show would just tell the truth. I know they think they are being nice by hiding their feelings, but I think being upfront and truthful is way more nice.
@youngsoldier9880
@youngsoldier9880 5 жыл бұрын
Keith was in it for the money and his mom go along with it but his dad refused to take part in the show knowing it was unfair to bride Iris.That is why he didn't consummate the marriage
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 5 жыл бұрын
@@youngsoldier9880 🙄🙄🤔
@bathos22
@bathos22 5 жыл бұрын
@@youngsoldier9880 Interesting thought that he didn't consummate the marriage because he may have been in the show for other reasons. I hadn't looked at it that way. Now I'm wondering if it is true that he didn't apply to be on the show instead TLC approached him. 🤔
@curlyroe1
@curlyroe1 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you re. Keith’s Mom. She answered him the way I would have answered my children and grand children
@ladylocs2xcel
@ladylocs2xcel 5 жыл бұрын
Roberta Hargis I agree with you. Some parents purposefully choose not to interfere with their children’s relationships because they ultimately realize that the child needs to find their own way and follow their own heart.
@mommynab
@mommynab 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know if I would have pushed, prodded, whatever my daughters, nieces, and nephews to stay given the situation. If it was a marriage based on love, long courtship, a wedding, then it hit the skids, yes. I have advised them to think long term. The parents in these shows are put in awkward positions so his dad may have refused to be on camera. I doubt my husband would do it.🤔
@bathos22
@bathos22 5 жыл бұрын
Stephanie is not saying the mother should have told Keith what to decide. She is saying when a child comes to you saying he needs your input/advise it is because that's what he needs. That at this point his mother should have helped him think things through by having him look at other perspectives/sides of the situation. The final decision is still his. So it is not about telling children what to do but about meeting their need for your wisdom they are telling you they need.
@stacyb6461
@stacyb6461 5 жыл бұрын
Roberta Hargis agree. It’s not his moms job to advice him in a directing. He’s grown. I would have done the same
@eseosarain
@eseosarain 5 жыл бұрын
Matt has a long road of pain and hurt in his future; hurt people hurt others. He is a washed up semi pro ball player and has family issues. Lord help him.
@beautifullife8580
@beautifullife8580 5 жыл бұрын
And the show should not have envolved no young woman in that. They are going to have to do a better job at vetting, starting with family issues.
@beautifullife8580
@beautifullife8580 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Keith not make any sense? He makes no sense to me.
@maestralive3493
@maestralive3493 5 жыл бұрын
Hes talking around hurting her feelings, thats all. She's too much, and had he been brutally honest, she would have given him the business and been confrontational which I believe he was trying to avoid. Maybe its punk-ish of him, but he gives me non confrontational vibes
@tcg1972
@tcg1972 5 жыл бұрын
@@maestralive3493 Exactly. I think he finds Iris annoying although she's a nice girl. He just wasn't into her.
@anyasidorov326
@anyasidorov326 5 жыл бұрын
After the way she acted with that lemonade and swallowing a coin plus during the game they were given to encourage their intimacy i totally understand Keith.
@beautifullife8580
@beautifullife8580 5 жыл бұрын
@@maestralive3493 I see great things for Iris, she's going to be ok. She may have her quicks, but she is a very classy, smart young lady that needs a confident man that knows what he wants. It is a sad day when we are living in a world where these twisted minded men can not appreciate a virtuous woman.
@beautifullife8580
@beautifullife8580 5 жыл бұрын
@@tcg1972 But would not it be better if he was honest? I think it would be better to tell her that they are just not compatible and he finds her annoying, instead of attacking her inexperience because inexperience has nothing to do with anything. How long does it take to become experienced? Really? What he is talking about just is not adding up. And what kind of message is this confused babbling sending to our young people? It's absurd.
@minitmay
@minitmay 5 жыл бұрын
I stated from the wedding day, when Keith mom ran to tell Keith Iris was a virgin, the Mom was wrong. If he had not had that prior knowledge he may have reacted a different way, not as guarded. That disclosure followed up with the conversation about the significance of the white dress was the doom of the marriage, especially in a public arena.
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter when and how he found out. He actually should have been asked before they paired him with Iris.
@watersport884
@watersport884 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that if Iris wanted her husband to know first, she should have not told his mother. Why tell his mother? She is not marrying the mother and matter of fact, she just met the mother. So I do not believe that the mother is to be blamed. Iris should have kept your mouth shut until the opportune time.
@StephanieGraham
@StephanieGraham 5 жыл бұрын
I was over Keiths mom when he told her that Iris was a virgin, wasnt her place
@84aquagirl
@84aquagirl 5 жыл бұрын
I felt Iris told Keith’s mom she was a virgin to impress her.
@TheJazzy1980
@TheJazzy1980 5 жыл бұрын
I think the producers had a hand in it.
@Giuchini26
@Giuchini26 4 жыл бұрын
I totally understand where Keith was coming from 100%. Esp after that lemonade incident lol. But for real, Iris wasn't even trying to understand him here she was just lashing out as if he was attacking her when really he was just being calm and explaining his views and explaining to her that they were just not int he same place. Also, what he said made a lot of sense... he was just admitting she was an amazing girl but just not the right one for him. It doesn't mean he came here for the wrong reasons (like i saw some people comment)..it just means he thought they could work it out in the beginning. He was patient and tried to understand her POV but in the end, he realized shes not the one he wanted and that they're on different playing fields..which is fine. I think he handled it really well too and I'm glad Iris finally accepted his answer in the end and has closure with the firm 'no' he gave her. I think he grew while being on the show and got to know himself more and what he wanted in a wife... that doesn't make him a bad person for going on the show lol. I think Iris is on a slightly lower maturity level with herself and needs to explore a bit a discover herself more before she gets attached to someone in a marital sense. One thing he could of done better was realize earlier on that he wasn't really turned on by her... i don't think he really ever fully was
@bftscgirl1977
@bftscgirl1977 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with that you that Iris should sit in the reality of her situation, but I get why she did not want to do it on tv. Iris really seemed to check all the boxes, she's cute, educated, nice, family orientated, and etc, so to be rejected on tv has to be very damaging and to then fall apart on tv is just not a good look. Sometimes you have to fake it until you make it.
@jpreddy3665
@jpreddy3665 5 жыл бұрын
Rahshedah Iris seems to believe she’s always right. I just get the feeling her parents told her she was the best at everything her entire life, so the idea of not being the best at being a wife is something she can’t wrap her head around. She wasn’t listening to Keith for understanding, only to respond. I’m glad he flat out told her his feelings, yet I still think she feels as what he was saying couldn’t possibly apply to her. Her responses and nonverbal cues definitely showcased her immaturity.
@jpreddy3665
@jpreddy3665 5 жыл бұрын
I need for Iris to get in touch with her own sexuality. She’s so invested in being a virgin it’s like she doesn’t have much else outside of that! Keith was right, she’s not ready to be anyone’s wife. I just think she enameled with the idea of being married. She’s not ready to share and give of herself the way a marriage would require.
@aseifa77
@aseifa77 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great review! You are always so balanced, calm, and informative. I like that you don't tear the participants down. I feel that Keith was Iris' first heartbreak. She's a child of divorce, and I believe she really wanted the marriage to work. Watching the reunion, Iris was sitting up under Keith, and constantly touching him. Keith did not reciprocate the touch, and was leaned away from her. Iris is hoping against hope that he'll change his mind. She also is one of those people who puts on a happy and acts like nothing can break her when, in fact, she's crying on the inside. I think Keith feels he needs to continue to be nice to her because she was there for him when his grandmother passed. Iris, block his number, don't go to dinner with him, and regroup from this heartache for at least six months. I would tell Greg I loved him too if he let me move in that immaculate house, lol. I'd love to see where there relationship goes. Omg, Sandy was too cute for words running around so happy in the backyard like that! Amber, stop worrying about being cordial with Matt. Ignore him as he does you. Karma will always be your friend in the long run. Move on with your life, and enjoy the freedom of being away from someone who clearly doesn't care about you or your feelings. I hope Jamie isn't moving Elizabeth across the country to isolate her from her family, so he can continue the abuse. It was very cringeworthy for the producers to play back that argument scene, and ask others in the room to comment on it. I get it's a TV show, and they need ratings, but these are still people with feelings. I'm glad Beth stood up for herself.
@cyoohoos
@cyoohoos 5 жыл бұрын
Keith is like is Mom. Very nice lady, but I found her to be a bit delicate in her answers as well. It just may be that Keith's family dynamic is to "sugar-coat shyat". He may not know how to be direct, open and honest because he was raised around this "I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings" dynamic. Iris on the other hand doesn't do well with nuances. She, IMHO, is naive but doesn't know it. There were times where Keith tried to be direct with her and she became argumentative. For instance, at the retreat he asked her to have a drink and loosen up and she said she won't be bullied. OK. And I thought it was totally inappropriate of her to ask him if he had sex. She won't discuss her personal life because she wants to be perfect on camera yet she feels like she can discuss his AFTER they break up?. I saw that as a petty dig. He played it off because he always does.
@mommynab
@mommynab 5 жыл бұрын
Right. I don't believe his mom decided for him, I believe she gave him the politically correct words to say 🗣 to try and let Iris down "easy." It's also why people keep saying he isn't being 100% honest. He had his PC response but they wouldn't let him off the hook.
@sagittarius1112able
@sagittarius1112able 5 жыл бұрын
Your assessment of Iris is spot on and yes Keith family dynamic does appear to be nice folks who might unfortunately be indirect in how they relate. That's why when I deal with people sometimes I refuse to answer or I will ghost you b/c you are doomed either way and arguing with people like that is a waste of time. Arguing is tiring.
@lanedelon6414
@lanedelon6414 5 жыл бұрын
cyoohoos right. I don't think no one cares abt how Keith may have been raised.
@littlemisstricky
@littlemisstricky 5 жыл бұрын
I think him and his mom had a conversation and decided since they were on the they would be very thoughtful about how they came across. I think naturally they are mature and caring but I think she wanted to make sure no matter how things turned out Keith came out looking respectable. This is why I think she ran and told him about the Virgin news. She didn't want him initiating anything too soon or pressing the issue and it blow up to a me too situation/ basic Caucasian sex blowup or what have you.
@ritaamiekhame8955
@ritaamiekhame8955 5 жыл бұрын
Iris isnt compatable with Keith personality. He cant just stand her immaturity which i understand.
@DeeniceDee
@DeeniceDee 5 жыл бұрын
If Keith said he will not date Iris,then why are they still seeing each other and talking. This behavior sending Mix messages to me. Elizabeth and Jamie need martial counseling. Deonna and Greg they are present 100% in their relationship which each other Amber and Matt they are definitely not interested in Amber. Matt checked out of his marriage from day 1... Amber needs to shut it down With Matt. Great review!
@bernadettecharles8500
@bernadettecharles8500 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth is imature and disrespectful but I wish them all the best
@bernadettecharles8500
@bernadettecharles8500 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Stephanie! Awesome review! I’m so agreeing with your review of the couple. I would have loved to have seen Keith talk to his dad for s male’s perspective. Yeah, I don’t believe that Iris nor Amber are living their best life’s for a second and they are merely saving face, the sting is still there. Matt lied until the very end and the fact that he knew 15 minutes in that it wasn’t going to work was infuriating. I wanted to give Amber a V8 slap when she said the she didn’t want Matt to hate her so her saying that she’s not thinking about him was laughable.
@jenniferd5474
@jenniferd5474 5 жыл бұрын
Where was Keith's dad and where was Iris's dad in this process after her was crying on the wedding day??!!
@nakiesmith5419
@nakiesmith5419 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on as always Ms .Stephanie ..spot on
@markeishacraver6440
@markeishacraver6440 5 жыл бұрын
I had an ex who was engaged and was still telling me he was in love with me. I asked him then why are you still with her and he told me "she hasn't done anything wrong and she is a good woman." He went on to talk about the qualities she had but also said he didn't feel a certain something for her. He really did not want to hurt her feelings because of him not really having a concrete reason to leave her. It of course angered me because I told him he was actually hurting her more by basically holding her hostage knowing he doesn't feel that certain "something" for her. She looked good to him on paper and also to his family she was perfect so he also didn't want to disappoint them. He eventually called off the wedding and he is happy that he did so. I hate it took him so long though because I am sure she is hurt. I see him in Keith. Iris just did not do it for him and he did not know how to say it. When she read him about her doing intimate things it was like yes you did those things but it still did not ignite a fire in him. I have heard from several men that they do not like to hurt a woman's feelings by saying "You are annoying" or "You don't excite my senses" or generally anything that points out something about you they don't like about you. They usually display non verbal cues or shut down and I saw that with Keith. I could tell he checked out and Iris could too based on her article. She said he didn't show up like she needed him too. She stated he rolled over and was on his phone after the body paint I believe. That is a non verbal cue. He was saying something without directly saying it. A lot of women me included need a man to just say it! but unfortunately many won't. I know many men like Keith and I very early on he was not into her enough to stay married. I was paying more attention to his body language and responses to her more than anything. They both have a lot of work to do if they want to have a successful relationship as well all in this world do.
@sagittarius1112able
@sagittarius1112able 5 жыл бұрын
I understand your points, I'm a woman and I'm like Keith. I see no need to spell out things that people can't change but I find annoying and uncomfortable, I just have to breakup with them and disappear now I know it's called ghosting. Because people do not understand discernment. I've gotten this a lot from exes that they don't know to this day why I broke up with them, which I find odd. Should I stay and argue and nag you about something that is innate to your person. How is that better?
@markeishacraver6440
@markeishacraver6440 5 жыл бұрын
@@sagittarius1112able I definitely hear you on that. Some people have personalities that just doesn't mesh well with your own. That doesn't make them a bad person but just not the person for you. Also Keith didn't like being backed into a corner like Iris was going to make him tell her. If he would have told her the absolute truth she would have argued him about that. You can't debate about how a person feels whether you understand or not. I have learned that. Hell I thought to myself if I was a man Iris would drive me nuts. If she talking about wearing outside clothes on the bed u think she gone let Keith do dirty nasty things to her...Keith seem like he like he a freak...lol
@TheJazzy1980
@TheJazzy1980 5 жыл бұрын
@@sagittarius1112able this reminds me so much of myself, lol.
@belindalindsey607
@belindalindsey607 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steph for the great reviews. Spot on as always. Greg and Deona were in it for the right reasons. They put in the work and had a great foundation to start from. Jaime once told Greg that he invited their relationship, it's because they didn't have that sure foundation and patience. Iris, move on. If Keith didn't open up during the show, he's not going to at the reunion. He had an agenda all along and it didn't involve her. Jaime and Beth need a lot of counseling and tools in order to work. Amber is a broken woman. She needs some foundational teaching too. She needs to learn how to value herself. too I'm done for the season. All of this other back stories that are coming out doesn't help these couples.
@queenathelene
@queenathelene 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you discussed Keith’s mom. Ever since day one when she ran and told him that Iris is a virgin, something she should have left for HIS wife to tell, Ive been giving her the side eye. First she was too intrusive in prying that out of Iris. Then she took away the authentic news flash from that young girl to share with her husband. That move on her grown woman part never sat well with me. I truly believe behind the scenes she wasn’t very encouraging of the relationship. We only know what was shown but I think behind the scenes she was a huge influence in his decision day’s decision. Additionally times have changed drastically. There was a time a woman would be cherished by her husband for saving herself for marriage. Now its a challenge and too much responsibility for him. The man prefers her to go sleep around then come back with bedroom acrobatics. That was a Wow.
@Chiyevo
@Chiyevo 5 жыл бұрын
She did not like Iris. Her IG post confirm that. She was on some my son made the best decision like really. We could have lived without seeing such comments. She thinks the sun shines out of her son arse
@emcrolls
@emcrolls 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Keith is more mature than Iris. He is used to getting his own way. He may be good guy, but he’s used to just that being enough & no having to do any work on his own for him self. Iris was at least honest with he boundaries. Jamie creeped me out when he said “ya well she went after me in car... “ the whole point was we dealt with issues and “moved on “ but yet he’s super quick do deflect. Beth seems explosive, Jamie seems insidious
@shayshay7409
@shayshay7409 5 жыл бұрын
If Keith is more immature than Iris.... that's even more they shouldn't be together, periodt
@emcrolls
@emcrolls 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The part that bugged me Most was, he kept bringing up her “maturity “ or lack of it. Really dude that’s not fair. Even if he was recruited, or knew he wasn’t into her he may be good guy generally but he wasn’t fair or honest with Iris. Not because she’s perfect. Because any relationship is a two way street. It was very easy to put more stress on her limits given some of her choices are atypical, he got some credit he didn’t deserve
@wiseeyes81
@wiseeyes81 5 жыл бұрын
I agree Emily. Calling her "immature" was a subtle way to put pressure on her. Works famously to get folks to push their boundaries.
@priscillagardner2019
@priscillagardner2019 5 жыл бұрын
@@emcrolls I agree to Emily, finally someone was thinking the same thing that I was thinking, because the immature person was him if you really Listen to Iris, I didn't understand how so many young women would agree so much with him and give him so much credit and gave the woman so little she was mature for me she was able to express herself in a very intelligent way had morals and standards about herself and most of all class. But that's what happens when you meet a young woman like Iris most men can't deal with, they find it very difficult deal with women like her because she's not loose they are like Keith think that it requires a lot of work when it really doesn't.
@emcrolls
@emcrolls 5 жыл бұрын
Priscilla Gardner right. She wasn’t perfect. But she was more honest about her boundaries & needs than he was. Plus in addition to the points she brought up, I was impressed by the way she stepped up after his Grandmother died. I don’t think she got enough credit for that.
@randybowe2661
@randybowe2661 5 жыл бұрын
Keith I don't know where you are but I jus hope you can see this. FIND forgiveness! A lot of times as a man you hold people heart in your hands and you have to be strong. The girl is virgin, NOBODY ELSE sleep with her and you saying that's a bad thing!?!? Have you no sense boy?? You betta go GYET that girl back and stop listenin to yo mommy or whoever filling your mind wit dat fool.
@bathos22
@bathos22 5 жыл бұрын
He is used to not working for it. A virgin means he'd have had to work to get her experienced in the bed doing his favorite "doggiestyle". He did say he didn't have time for that.
@1984reed
@1984reed 5 жыл бұрын
I've stated this in other post but It didn't work cause Keith was RECRUITED. It's not something he sought after. No matter if she were more mature, less annoying or whatever marriage was something he wasn't ready for per his statement when asked by the host.
@Beautifulglenda
@Beautifulglenda 5 жыл бұрын
Wait he was recruited? He didn't sign up himself?
@1984reed
@1984reed 5 жыл бұрын
@@Beautifulglenda yep, he was recruited by the producers.
@books6000
@books6000 5 жыл бұрын
I agree completely yes I read the article. Everyone points out he said if he met his trie love that was a lie. Because he just admitted to not being ready to marry. This was an opportunity to get his music out and in front of people. I pray Iris moves on.
@abundance6560
@abundance6560 5 жыл бұрын
Stephaine Lee.... I have been waiting for your synopsis ever since hahaha
@watersport884
@watersport884 5 жыл бұрын
I believe Keith really checked out at the house warming party. Their male friends can break or make a relationship. It is worse when they do not know your spouse.
@shelleycharlesworth2929
@shelleycharlesworth2929 5 жыл бұрын
A kind & caring partner is such a HUGE blessing. I think we are on this earth with work to do- and relationships are like laboratories where where the work gets done. Without the work there is no growth. Love is created out of : being appreciated being wanted being respected being treated kindly being cherished being received being heard being needed In a flourishing relationship, both partners need to feel SAFE -SEEN-CELEBRATED. I saw so much toxic behavior from these couples-mainly Jaime and Elizabeth and Matt and Amber. WHY didn't these "experts" ASK Keith if he was ok with having a virgin for a wife? Could have saved iris a lot of hearache. Yes she is immature but Keith is too. Maybe not sexually, but he is emotionally constipated. He did not communicate. And how in the world does a man who has no job and hasn't spoken to his parents or sister in 2 years and "crashes" at friends places fit to be married? Matt can't commit to himself for heaven's sake - how is he suitable for marriage?
@priscillagardner2019
@priscillagardner2019 5 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right you are old school thanks for your wisdom and your knowledge thank you
@hattiedennard6724
@hattiedennard6724 5 жыл бұрын
Great review,I am happy that this season is over. I feel that some of the couples shouldn’t have participated in Marriage at first sight because they were not (mature) ready for marriage. I think that Keith should have been happy that Iris was a virgin.
@yvonnedelories4780
@yvonnedelories4780 5 жыл бұрын
There should have been a check box on the questionnaire whether someone would prefer a virgin or not. I say this because that's a lot of pressure and responsibility and he had already said that he didn't want that responsibility especially not knowing if they would stay together or not. He treated her with respect imo and I believe he cares for her. Iris is immature in several areas which wasn't attractive to him.
@agreen0401
@agreen0401 5 жыл бұрын
Hattie Dennard I am with you. I was so happy it was over.
@ritaamiekhame8955
@ritaamiekhame8955 5 жыл бұрын
you cant make virginity to be everythg in marriage. Maturity is important.
@yvonnedelories4780
@yvonnedelories4780 5 жыл бұрын
I lol when Matt was just looking around too lol.
@AtheistCook
@AtheistCook 5 жыл бұрын
It has been alleged that they get a 50k payment if they stay until the last episode, if the producers introduced that as an additional pay or bonus, then. That may be the reason why Keith, Matt and Amber stayed til the last episode probably knowing that their relationships were not going to work. The payment incentive lowers the quality of the show in my opinion, the show is not what used to be. I liked it more when you could leave without covenants if that was the case in previous seasons.
@mspinkdiva3
@mspinkdiva3 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephanie! Thanks for your reviews for the season, this has definitely been one of the most interesting seasons yet. There is a new dating show called Ready To Love coming on OwN on October 5th. It’s a new dating show based in ATLANTA. I would love to see your assessment on this series!😊
@mommynab
@mommynab 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I don't understand Amber and her, "I want to be friends." It's her neediness factor, abandonment issues kicking in again. See a shrink baby girl.😧
@annaarthur1693
@annaarthur1693 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the show without commercials and Elizabeth was not upset about answering questions she was upset that all they showed were the negative videos about her and Jamie she didn't want to go back to that point and go back to those feelings. First they moved into Jamie's house and then moved into her apartment and now moving to California. I'm still a little shaky on their sold foundation but crazy as it is they may work. Keith was approached to go on the show and he finally admitted he wasn't ready for marriage. Iris got the closure that she needed. Friendship is fine but they both can move on. Why Matt seems so angry, Amber did nothing to him but he has hostility cause he got called out. No one has ever held him accountable so that stung him. I hated the way production played the card with Greg and Deonna. Deonna move into the big house so she happy.
@marvinabigby5509
@marvinabigby5509 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone has ever held Matt's feet to the fire about his hurtful selfish behavior.Matt needs to grow up and learn how to be accountable.
@annaarthur1693
@annaarthur1693 5 жыл бұрын
@@marvinabigby5509 I still think someone should find his family. He needs some serious help counseling and connection. I hope he's not the type the family is missing because of him. Do they really exist???? Sorry I watch mysteries too/
@marvinabigby5509
@marvinabigby5509 5 жыл бұрын
@@annaarthur1693 I never thought about that actually but I see your point. Did we ever see Jamie's family I know they spoke of them being divorced.I am a crime mystery watcher too.
@annaarthur1693
@annaarthur1693 5 жыл бұрын
@@marvinabigby5509 we saw his dad and stepmother they came to the house and met her mom and dad
@annaarthur1693
@annaarthur1693 5 жыл бұрын
No aunt, uncle, cousin, fake cousin??? When he went home ??? To his old neighborhood nothing nobody came out ??? Just strange
@porgib24
@porgib24 5 жыл бұрын
Matt said 15 minutes in he knew Amber wasn’t the one!!!! Yet she still was acting needy 😔
@CJAmara
@CJAmara 5 жыл бұрын
Yet he still slept with her. Piece of trash
@prettybrowngirl41
@prettybrowngirl41 5 жыл бұрын
There is a rumor that Keith was recruited for the show. He didn't sign up. Keith just wasn't into her. It really had nothing to do with sex.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
dollface2905 wow Keith was recruited? Now that makes me wonder about all of the other drama from previous seasons and how real the marriages are.
@1984reed
@1984reed 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, he was recruited so she never stood a chance.
@youngsoldier9880
@youngsoldier9880 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe Keith has a girlfriend but could not resist the offer from the recruiter that is why he didn't want sex.He could have been having sex while been married to Iris
@karmabest5188
@karmabest5188 5 жыл бұрын
I heard the same thing. I heard that by a friend that lives in Charlotte that someone signed him up.
@books6000
@books6000 5 жыл бұрын
Just read the article Keith gave and Since Keith was recruited no wonder he left and did not try.this was never something he wanted. Ok makes sense now. Article www.monstersandcritics.com/smallscreen/married-at-first-sight-exclusive-interview-keith-manley-reacts-to-iris-caldwells-virginity-and-learning-about-it-from-his-mom/
@mssmileyD35
@mssmileyD35 5 жыл бұрын
I really Pray Iris moves on. I pray she is weaning herself away from him. No talks and not lunch dates. He checked out from the first day. Him and Matt stayed because of a check. They wanted the whole check. Matt agreed to checking out on the first day, but yet still he slept with Amber. Just pure trash!!!!!!
@mzbrown6969
@mzbrown6969 5 жыл бұрын
I hate to say this but if Iris was put with a guy like Matt, sheesh she was very blessed because it could have been the other way
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
Natural. IamME I think that Keith wanted to check out when his mom told him about Iris being a virgin because he wasn’t happy to hear that
@SassyDiva53
@SassyDiva53 5 жыл бұрын
As always, very good review Stephanie! I just have a couple of things that I noticed during the season that I want to kind of shine the light on. 1st of all, I was team Keith and Iris all season. But I started checking out when they went to the cabin. I sometimes felt like even though Keith is a nice guy, he was a little blurred in his responses as to why they didnt make it. For example, I felt that hands down Iris was very clear that she wanted the marriage to work and how she felt about Keith and where she was hoping this experiment would have taken her. But I was kind of getting mixed signals from Keith for a while because I felt like he was trying too hard to be nice or maybe save face for himself.I then started questioning did he really like her as far as a wife. What was confusing to me was that he said he missed her and that they had gone on a few dates after the show. You are so right when you said about Iris trying too hard to prove that she's OK. I feel like her response would have been more authentic had she have admitted that she was blindsided and hurt, but still staying positive that she'd be ok. I don't think that would have made her look weak. I also had saw on another channel that she's been posting a lot of pictures and things of that nature on her Instagram. So clearly I feel that she is very hurt and feeling rejected, and this is her way of kind of putting it out there that she is OK when really she's not. As far as Matt and Amber. I agree with you that she is quite concerning. I was team Amber all season, but too Started getting annoyed about her being so clingy. I do I wanna be probably the odd ball and say I don't believe Matt. I do believe that he knew in the 1st 15 minutes that he didn't like her. But , but for whatever reason was willing to try. The reason why I say that is because if you think back to decision day, when she was saying nice things about him, and he was kind of alluding to that he would have said yes if she had a said yes. I feel like now hes trying to save face for his own way. I feel like for whatever reason he's feeling rejected. Which is really interesting because all season he acted like a butt hole. I like Amber, but she kind of annoying me to even during the season when she kept given him passes and just acting like she was so desperate to be with him. Basically just not holding him accountable for anything that he was doing. My concern is like I said the other out there cool he is going to come across because hes gonna do it again and again and again and again. He just strikes me as that's just too he is and he doesn't care who he hurts. He just seems like a very troubled and hurt person....and also not to sound judgy, but he strikes me as having narcissistic traits. So I hope that Amber really slows down because from what I got from the reunion, she said she was enjoying herself. And I just feel like that's a bad mindset to have when you've just come out of something. She has deep abandonment meant issues that have not been dealt with. I really hope that she takes this time and learn a little bit more about herself as well as seek out professional help. Her attachment to him in such a short time is very alarming to me
@compka93
@compka93 5 жыл бұрын
I think Keith just was not into Iris on many levels and he was searching for words to not hurt her feelings, rather than saying look Iris I find you extremly annoying, you have the maturity of a 13 yr old. I respect the fact that he did not have sex with her because he knew she was not the one. Matt is still couch surfing and he was so checked out. I was laughing at him on a few occasions. I was happy for Gregg and Deonna. Stephanie I remember you liked them from the beginning and I did not like Deonna BUT YOU WAS RIGHT. As always love your reviews and opinions.
@tcg1972
@tcg1972 5 жыл бұрын
OMG! Your comment about Keith is spot on. I don't know why others don't see it. She annoys him and I see why.
@aspeights1983
@aspeights1983 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with vetting the family of possible candidates.
@wiseeyes81
@wiseeyes81 5 жыл бұрын
showing discernment about who you have sex with = maturity, requiring a commitment before having an intimate relationship with someone = maturity, not allowing people to push you beyond your boundaries for the purposes of their entertainment = maturity, not allowing someone to break your spirit/showing vulnerability to someone who is not interested you = maturity. People will often try to gaslight you if you don' t subject yourself to their standards and way of living. Stand strong to all out there who are going against the grain.
@Suidolemalso
@Suidolemalso 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review Stephanie!💜 I realized Matt checked out during the show and Amber stays in the street right in the middle of the road so she can catch traffic in either direction.🤨
@hafsamumtaz1
@hafsamumtaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Great review Stephanie, thanks so much for reviewing this season it was fun watching!
@suzusew3350
@suzusew3350 5 жыл бұрын
No.... keith knew what he wanted. He just want to make sure he dont feel guilty in his mom eyes when he drop iris. Keith plays both sides of the coin
@earlenecarson395
@earlenecarson395 5 жыл бұрын
Again I agree with your analysis of Keith and Iris. I was really surprised about how Keith truly felt about Iris; not good. He certainly can act. I hope Iris can move on and find what she wants in life. Hopefully Married at First Sight can do a Second Chance for Iris and Amber.
@earlenecarson395
@earlenecarson395 5 жыл бұрын
@T M I so agree.
@bathos22
@bathos22 5 жыл бұрын
I felt his final answer was him lashing out at Iris because of her followup questions that showed him to be a contradiction. He got mad.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
T M Iris should break all ties with Keith and honestly he should too.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
MmabathoSisJ yep!!! He did get defensive!
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
T M I think that he was turned off the moment his mom told him about Iris being a virgin, however, I can’t put all of the blame on him because Iris was way over the top at times.
@angiecollymore4023
@angiecollymore4023 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephanie I agree with you but I will say Keith was in it until his mom told him Iris was a virgin that is when he checked out. If you remember one of his friends said they don't know if it going to work cause Keith does not stay once there is no sex. I commend Iris she give other all Keith is like Dave from season 7
@seantaylor8414
@seantaylor8414 5 жыл бұрын
WooooW!!! U analyze Keith situation perfectly
@bford3977
@bford3977 5 жыл бұрын
As always, great review! Keith DEFINITELY should have sought male counsel! Great point and I hadn't thought about that. Maybe he did off camera and didn't mention it. I do hope that Keith and Iris have a clean break. I don't want Iris walking around with hopes for the future. I believe that Amber put so much of her heart and soul into Matt, that a soul tie was made on her end and it's HARD to break that. In some ways I get that. I said the EXACT same thing about Jamie and Elizabeth taking a relationship that's not on ANY firm foundation across country! Whose bright idea was THIS!!?!?
@daisylavender5275
@daisylavender5275 5 жыл бұрын
Keith was expecting a sexy, slim thick jawn and he got a quirky, slim jim jawn instead! He was like😱
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 5 жыл бұрын
In the looks department Keith got what he wanted. He was physically attracted to Iris.
@daisylavender5275
@daisylavender5275 5 жыл бұрын
@@filmadcamp1512 I don't think so.
@curlyroe1
@curlyroe1 5 жыл бұрын
My husband was reluctant, but I insisted. We were together until he passed
@NeeNee_B.
@NeeNee_B. 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please watch & review 'Love & Marriage: Alabama'? I think you would really bring some insight to some of the issues the couples go through, like forgiveness after infidelity, a woman's "place" in the marriage as a stay at home mom, etc. It's only on S1E9 😁 I really enjoy your analyses & respect your opinion. I welcome all the content you put out & learn so much from you (and your spouse) that I will carry on into future relationships. Thank you for that, even if you don't end up checking out the show 😂 ❤
@mspinkdiva3
@mspinkdiva3 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I love this show so much relationship drama on this one too!
@kisslena
@kisslena 5 жыл бұрын
Great review Stephanie! I look forward to your future content. 😘
@Chiyevo
@Chiyevo 5 жыл бұрын
If you have seen Keith's mum comments on IG after reunion you would know that she was hostile to Iris. She did not like Iris. She made it clear she was interested in his happiness only.
@spoilbrat172001
@spoilbrat172001 5 жыл бұрын
nandi mzansi sad 😢
@cecestyme7142
@cecestyme7142 5 жыл бұрын
Great review Keith played that nice guy act just like last season with the black couple. Everyone thought it was her and it really was the guy being fake in my opinion because he faked with Iris to the point she just knew he wanted their marriage.....
@napoleaj01
@napoleaj01 5 жыл бұрын
First time in his home she goes through his drawers when he is not in the room and gets mad over a box of condoms, is that a turn on, or a turn off?
@EE-nm3uu
@EE-nm3uu 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, they need to invite you to join the show. Your feedback is GOLD and I don't think these couples get to receive such sound advice on the show.
@DKDAY26ALLDAY01
@DKDAY26ALLDAY01 5 жыл бұрын
I most certainly agree with the vetting process. This is why I know the producers have garnered the 'reality show formula" moreso than actually helping persons with this "social experiment."
@giftoflife6683
@giftoflife6683 5 жыл бұрын
Matt had to do what he had to do for money. He is street wise. For anything that look bad, it must have some goodness in it before it get bad, so I think Amber see the good side of Matt and became fixated on that. Best of luck to her. Keith&Iris. I think Iris is still in shock and still unreal, her reaction is extreme of sadness. Some people react that way, on the extreme spectrum. Out of the limelight she is a broken woman and would need time to heal. She need to keep herself strong to avoid going into depression. I pray for her that she will overcome thus and her strong attitude and feisty nature will work for her. She is a beautiful girl and I hope she goes on to achieve great things even if she is not married. I don't think Keith is yet all man to be able to control Iris. Being married and husband is different from being a boyfriend. They both still have years ahead..They are 27,so few more years with more life experience, maturity will come. Beth, & Jamie, I hope it work well for them. They need more support, marriage course, communication, Beth in social skills, etiquette and behave like a respectable woman, not a Daddy's girl. Greg and D. They seem okay, but I'm slightly worried that Greg will not loose his voice and true self while trying to make D happy. Best wishes for the future.. Thanks Stephanie and your hubby for the review. We'll wait fir next season. Enjoy the fall. 🖐️🤸‍♀️🤹‍♀️
@sagittarius1112able
@sagittarius1112able 5 жыл бұрын
I think Iris is very childish unfortunately, I like her but she's not mature. Keith yes is guarded but I also think he didn't want to hurt her not sure what people want from him. Yes I think he should be more direct but then he would be slammed for that as well. Matt's direct and everyone thinks he's a douche, but no one wants to accept that Amber while he should not have disrespected she is a stage 5 clinger. So maybe that's why he's so dismissive, should Keith be like that so Iris gets it? If a man wants you, you will know you will not have to guess.
@polisigh216
@polisigh216 5 жыл бұрын
sagittarius1112able I hate the childish moniker. Is she taking care of herself? What did you need her to exhibit? I hear this childish thing mostly from women and it is crazy. Keith would not have worked with a worldly woman.
@mommynab
@mommynab 5 жыл бұрын
Right, Keith was in a losing situation. For example, I see people say, "he should have left right away if he didn't like her." Wrong. Viewers would have burned him for leaving after a few weeks and not giving the relationship a chance until decision day. I think his only way to sneak away unscathed would have been to keep up a brave face as a couple until last night, then break up when the DC couples are announced. But that's not healthy for him or Iris to stay just for public opinion. He didn't want a virgin and Iris likely irked his nerves, I blame the experts for not aligning their desires vs how they look together.
@sagittarius1112able
@sagittarius1112able 5 жыл бұрын
@@polisigh216 I meant childish in how she was expressing she is living her best life etc. She makes excuses, just say I was hurt and disappointed by his actions but now I've made peace with it. Don't get me wrong I think Keith is cold, however I think it's important for women to understand what someone is not saying and not continue to ask for clarification over and over. You are forcing the person to be rude, I'm a woman and I can be blunt but polite when I'm pressed it will be nice nasty. So consistently pressuring him when you know the answer "he asked for a divorce", I think is childish. It's called discernment.
@sagittarius1112able
@sagittarius1112able 5 жыл бұрын
@@mommynab I agree but I don't blame the experts, contrary to popular belief ppl can have a lot in common and look great together but no chemistry at all. I like both Iris and Keith but it's just not meant to be. People want like solid explanations as to why sometimes there are any. I can appreciate him not leading her on especially b/c she is innocent.
@barbaracronin4164
@barbaracronin4164 5 жыл бұрын
sagittarius1112able oh yes. Women always know, on some level, even if they do not want to acknowledge it, if a man is not attracted to them. ALWAYS.
@patforward726
@patforward726 5 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh when the camera was on Iris in her new place and she said so proudly "hey everyone I'm a divorced virgin". I think she's gonna hold onto that banner forever, or it's become such a part of her, it's all she wants to be known for. Good luck girl finding anyone to marry you!
@mariedaparellio5686
@mariedaparellio5686 5 жыл бұрын
Pat Forward In the beginning they painted Deonna and Iris as “Christian God-fearing women” which is why they made certain choices (I wanted a man who went to church or remained virgin) Show went on Deonna would pray and talk about God but Iris? No mention of god no mention of her faith just virgin, virgin, virgin. She wasn’t a virgin because she was a Christian she’s a virgin because she’s got serious issues around identity and maturity.
@CJAmara
@CJAmara 5 жыл бұрын
@@mariedaparellio5686 I have been saying this. Iris' virginity had nothing to do with God. Throughout the marriage to Keith, there was not one mention of God, Jesus, Yahweh, Holy Spirit - nothing, not once. Not even a hallelujah escaped from her mouth. Her virginity was her identity - she didn't remain a virgin because her identity was in Christ.
@ruthiepooh86
@ruthiepooh86 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like Amber was stressing her “very active” sex life since the end of the experiment. I wonder why?
@carameldarling2980
@carameldarling2980 5 жыл бұрын
coping mechanism
@SassyDiva53
@SassyDiva53 5 жыл бұрын
To beat feeling rejected.... Problem is commas she's going about it the wrong way things and end up burning herself out and getting hurt
@shirlee237
@shirlee237 5 жыл бұрын
I think your review was spot on.. Thank you
@carameldelite01
@carameldelite01 5 жыл бұрын
#1 you look so pretty!! #2 So glad I discovered your channel this yr. I've really enjoyed you & Hubby's perspectives. Looking forward to next season!!! 💜
@trcooper5793
@trcooper5793 5 жыл бұрын
So I finally got to watch the "Decision Day " episode last night just before the finale. Here is my take on the outcome and I'm writing this before I watch Stephanie's video or read any of the comments... Deonna and Greg. I stand by my previous statement that I don't think they are right for each other. I'm proud of them for their commitment to the process and just to commitment in general but I really feel strongly that Greg deserves so much better. Deonna is just too lukewarm for me. I also take issue with everyone who has said they feel that Greg is an overthinker. He is not--I mean, he is trying to get to know her and in doing so is discovering things about her and when he does, he articulates it. Like when he said that about her eyelashes for example. He simply said she had long eyelashes because that was something he was discovering about her. I wish them luck and I just want Greg to be really happy. I want them both to be happy but I don't think they will be as happy as they could be. Jamie and Elizabeth: I have to admit that in the beginning, I felt that Elizabeth was going to be the biggest problem in this relationship but as time went on, it was more Jamie. Now don't get me wrong, Elizabeth certainly has issues to work on but Jamie really needs some help. I think they could benefit from individual counseling but also couples' counseling. They both need to learn how to control their tempers and not act like a couple of grade-schoolers. And Jamie really needs to take a lesson from Keith and learn how to think before he speaks. Helping your spouse to become a better person does not include belittling at every chance you get which is what he seems to do. Keith & Iris: This was not a shock to me at all. I would have been happy if they decided to stay married but I understand what Keith was saying although I don't think he articulated it very well. He needed to make it CLEAR to her that she is very immature emotionally and especially when it comes to sex. Acting like a 12 year old when you are 27 is not cute! I thought it was very disrespectful of her the way she was interrogating him as to whether or not he has had sex since they broke up. Keith does not seem to be that type of guy who sleeps with just anybody as she was implying and that in itself shows her immaturity when it comes to sex. It wasn't about the act itself but about having a mature attitude about it. I completely get what he was trying to say. I also think it's interesting (from a female point of view) how the other husbands felt the way Keith did regarding the responsibility of being the "first" fo a woman of her age. Amber and Matt: (Sigh...) Matt actually reminds me of one of my nephews. Loves women, loves hanging out with the boys, loves his freedom. I think he signed up for t. his because he was feeling a little lonely at times and was wondering if he should try the marriage thing without realizing that he just wasn't and isn't ready. I think he will be someday but it will be way down the road. He will probably be in his late 40's or 50's when he finds that woman who he just connects with and is actually ready to settle down. I think Amber needs to calm down a bit. She needs to get her hormones under control I mean she was all over him immediately after they tied the knot, gushed over him a little too much and just focused on the physical too much for me. I think she I also think that she and Matt have an entirely different sense of humor really sweet but her separation issues are going to continue to be a problem for her if she doesn't work on that. She just got on my nerves a bit, was way too clingy. I am a woman that is not like that at all--I don't need for my partner and I to spend all of our free time together and there is nothing wrong with that. But if that is what she needs, she needs to find a guy who is okay with that. I didn't mean to take over your page Stephanie-I just really wanted to get y thoughts out! I'll be watching your video now!!
@cyoohoos
@cyoohoos 5 жыл бұрын
The only ounce of integrity that Matt showed was when he stopped having relations with Amber. But Amber, girl, get some self esteem. If Matt had not have stopped having relations with her, she would still be begging him to. Somehow she equates sex with love. Hence her bragging about her "party" moments after they decided to split. My heart breaks for women who aren't complete unless a man is using their body be it in a positive or negative way.
@dmoney8890
@dmoney8890 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning Stephanie, do you have a step by step guide or info you are willing to share about how you designed and got your board game produced and marketed? Thanks
@ninale6889
@ninale6889 5 жыл бұрын
Deonna was glowing and looked very happy. Her walls have definitely come down. But is it just me... or did Greg look a bit hesitant? Something in his eyes didn't look quite as happy as I expected. Maybe he's coming to terms with the fact that Deonna has taken over his house and brought along a shedding dog that he's allergic to... Lol.
@marvinabigby5509
@marvinabigby5509 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed Greg seemed off a little.He seemed like he was holding back his thoughts I hope they are truly happy.
@punkinpunkin6524
@punkinpunkin6524 5 жыл бұрын
Niki Lee Greg seems to more giving in the relationship.
@ninale6889
@ninale6889 5 жыл бұрын
@@punkinpunkin6524 I agree. That will get old once reality sets in. And maybe it has set in already.
@lanedelon6414
@lanedelon6414 5 жыл бұрын
Greg has been quiet for the last few episodes. He just smiles and nods his head.
@ninale6889
@ninale6889 5 жыл бұрын
@@lanedelon6414 Which is different. Initially (and throughout most of the season) he was the more verbal, expressive one and Deonna was very quiet. It seems like the roles have reversed. I just hope he doesn't have to become less of who he is, so that the relationship can work.
@sweetcandigirl2751
@sweetcandigirl2751 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Iris proved Keith's point about the way she handles things by her asking him has he had sex on national television! That is so intrusive and rude to ask when you really don't have the right to his personal business, but she tried to correct it like she was the cool girl by saying " I just want to make sure you're good!" No you don't Iris! You just want to be in his business to prove a point to yourself when in actuality she proved Keith's point of her immaturity! Keith did not want to be with Iris the moment she walked down the aisle and I can't see why the viewers couldn't see that. He's a nice person so he's not going to blatantly be like "yo I don't like her and I'm not attracted to her" he went the nice guy approach and people still didn't get it!💁🏾 he had valid reasons to be done with the process. I also think his mom and a man (maybe his dad) gave him advise about the virginity thing but it wasn't aired or that part wasn't filmed but it didn't matter anyway because he had no intentions to ever be her first sexual experience!
@corneshiahill1856
@corneshiahill1856 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your assessment of Amber. I wanted to scream. She still wants to be connected to him is crazy. She definitely came off annoying. She has some work to do. Thanks for the great reviews!!
@blackknight1906
@blackknight1906 5 жыл бұрын
Keith's mother did exactly what a mother should do in that situation. May him stand on his own two feet and make a decision. He knew that he didn't want to remain married but didn't want to hurt her. Iris wanted Keith to date her because she thought she was in a fairytale. He was looking for a wife and expected her to act like one.
@MsMockingbird06
@MsMockingbird06 5 жыл бұрын
IMO, Keith was looking for a fairytale by expecting to walk into a perfect situation, not work towards improving and growing in the marriage, and not providing feedback. He’s right that 8 weeks is not enough time to make a decision about marriage, but I didn’t see him try. It looked like he checked out when he didn’t like Iris’s behavior. Feedback, work, and effort is needed for growth in marriage. Iris understands that. Keith either does not or just didn’t want to try.
@blackknight1906
@blackknight1906 5 жыл бұрын
T Michelle - Iris is a grown woman. Our personalities are fully developed by the time we reach our late teenage years. It is not Keith's role to raise her. An emotionally mature woman would have realized within a few weeks that he wasn't attracted to her behavior. Moreover, she is faking the funk with that Iris is living her best life foolishness. Which is one of the reasons that the marriage fail. She is delusional and has a complete blind spot about herself. Iris would have benefited from talking with married woman in successful marriages. Because no man with options is going to put up with her foolishness.
@GTDiva24
@GTDiva24 5 жыл бұрын
What's even more crazy is that Amber was getting info about Matt steppin out from her teacher friends and apparently from Beth during filming. Her problems are more deep rooted than I thought. And what you said about Matt is very true. Sometimes we dismiss people as a bad person...because a lot of the time they are...but what really made Matt so closed off, dismissive, and just plain mean?? How could anyone treat another human that way and not care?? smh
@sammyytube5999
@sammyytube5999 5 жыл бұрын
Beth and Jamie at just shocking. Seriously with a lot of her body language during reunion, I just thought that they were done. But they just always seem to hang on and come back. And the more that they talk, I get it. Jamie truly is a man who is over and done with the dating scene and has just never found a direct, honest and fiery humor like Beth. Beth has never had anyone master the "clap back" as well as Jamie in dealing with her. And someone who obviously mastered dealing with her closeness with dad who no doubt was a factor in her relationship to come to her defense. And now they are doing the matching underwear thing every night and Jamie moved to Beth's place. I completely get why they feel that can not be w/o each other's personality in their lives. But the move all the way to California w/o friends and family around who knows their explosive relationship, that's bold. And it is also telling when Beth said no more working with dad, but finding herself. Truly Jamie won the "fight" in the end with daddy's girl and Beth feels that it is worth breaking away from. Look out California. The tough love is about to bring the major earth quake. :-)
@phyllisward8682
@phyllisward8682 5 жыл бұрын
This reunion show was a total disappointment to me. I don't know what I was expecting, but I didn't get it. I was most surprised with Keith and now I think he was just there for the check along with his buddy Matt. (jk) Keith's mom may have known about his plan to get in and secure the bag. Iris opened up her SM account so I will follow to see what she's up to showing us. I can't give the experts a pass on their selection of Iris or Matt. There were too many red flags with both of them. You are spot on with Amber.
@nikelnicole
@nikelnicole 5 жыл бұрын
As bad as Keith was I could never put him in a category with Matt. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 . I think he was respectful, kind and considerate in a dishonest way. Iris was not bad for MAFS (she was building a foundation of getting to know Keith in a non-sexual manner) but not good for TV, i.e. I think she was more uncomfortable with being documented in those intimate moments.
@phyllisward8682
@phyllisward8682 5 жыл бұрын
@@nikelnicole I hear your opinion in regards to Iris but for this experiment, I don't think she should have made the cut. But that's on the experts not Iris.
@Chiyevo
@Chiyevo 5 жыл бұрын
@@phyllisward8682 Iris was season 9 highlight. Just look at the edits and how much time they gave her. This is a TV reality show and they priorities content that's different and gets views. People were talking about Iris the most and tuning in to see if she has had sex with Keith.
@phyllisward8682
@phyllisward8682 5 жыл бұрын
@@Chiyevo Oh I agree that was the only reason why she was selected. I don't know her personally, but this could have ended in disaster emotionally for both parties involved. If she has any real heartache, it could have been spared. That's my point of view.
@diva2.0diva20
@diva2.0diva20 5 жыл бұрын
I follow her on instragram, she is a delight and funny. I like her funny videos an all. Kudos to Iris.
@adelhutson9360
@adelhutson9360 5 жыл бұрын
I really love your wisdom.
@annaarthur1693
@annaarthur1693 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that Elizabeth dog died but the cat is hanging tough. I think that older dog was too stressed.
@fundwithrenika
@fundwithrenika 5 жыл бұрын
Anna Arthur the dog was stressed out every time they went to arguing that poor dog was worried
@tammyclark7526
@tammyclark7526 5 жыл бұрын
Did the dog die, really? Oh no.
@jenniferd5474
@jenniferd5474 5 жыл бұрын
Stephanie serving with the looks!!! 😍
@pamelamcdaniel3332
@pamelamcdaniel3332 5 жыл бұрын
I question whether Keith entered into the process with the intention of finding a forever relationship. He seemed to treat her respectfully on the show but, at 27, I doubt that he was ready to be married. He kind of said that on the day of the wedding. Iris and Amber both got the short end of the stick in being married to partners who possibly didn't have intentions of staying married from the start.
@hafsamumtaz1
@hafsamumtaz1 5 жыл бұрын
I got the sense that there was some animosity or anger between Jamie and Elizabeth. There was one moment where Elizabeth was saying oh Jannie wouldn't like a virgin and he said are you going to call me out again or something. There were a few times just from his expression that I thought he had some anger towards her.. Beth on the other hand as crazy as she is I loved watching her. She seems like she would make a fun TV host
@jeg5751
@jeg5751 5 жыл бұрын
Re: Keith & momma. If momma has always kept neutral when asked and deferred 'it's up to you'. If she's always interacted that way ' I wonder if Keith has learned to be non-committal, take the neutral, safe course. I had really been pulling for them. The two 'caucasian' couples could have dropped out of sight as far as I'm concerned.
@for_crys_sake
@for_crys_sake 5 жыл бұрын
I think that Iris is holding out hope that he wants to give it another chance.
@jenniferford7450
@jenniferford7450 5 жыл бұрын
On point!
@adrianneedwards6179
@adrianneedwards6179 5 жыл бұрын
“Iris is living her best life”. Iris needs to grow up and stop referring to herself in third person.
@maxinemoore5220
@maxinemoore5220 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I never thought that Keith was not into Iris! If you remember he talked lovingly about his wife! Some things happened i.e., the lemonade (embarrassing around his friends) as well infantile emotions! He got over that! I don't think that the condoms were really that important! For me the transition really came when the secret was revealed! He was Dun and over it! So sorry because this romantic was rooting for them! Thank you a different experience for me, and most enjoyable! Thank you for answering my questions! Best regards to your husband please! Blessings!
@ladylocs2xcel
@ladylocs2xcel 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that both iris and Amber referred to the guys as their Ex-husbands...yet Keith and Matt did not refer to them as ex-wife. I think neither of them are over the guys yet and that was a way to hold onto any form of connection between them
@stacycrawley3336
@stacycrawley3336 5 жыл бұрын
ladycurl2xcel Yessssss
@abundance6560
@abundance6560 5 жыл бұрын
But they are ex-husbands. Aren't they? It is what it is. Lol
@lcjones4682
@lcjones4682 5 жыл бұрын
They were legally married so why wouldn’t they say ex husband.
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 5 жыл бұрын
@@abundance6560 They're still married. In NC a divorce takes a year after filing.
@knowthyself31
@knowthyself31 4 жыл бұрын
In the 2nd segment, Keith's body language appeared kinda seductive toward Iris to me. He was basically sitting on her. I think he wanted to maintain her desire towards him but not commit. I'm glad Iris has cut him off. He would continue to string her along emotionally through a faux friendship.🤔
@maestraminee4520
@maestraminee4520 5 жыл бұрын
🥇Best KZbin MAFS Season 09 Reviews Award: Janice Hylton, Stephanie Lee, Talisa Rae & SarreaRea! Thank you ladies for the quality time, energy, and insight y'all put into this season. Stephanie: You are so classy and wise. I would recommend the Relationship Goals series by Pastor Michael Todd of Transformation Church for Keith and the Love Hour Podcasts by Melissa Fredericks (Ms.KevOnStage) for Iris.
@TeeTacklesGoals
@TeeTacklesGoals 5 жыл бұрын
Iris' video update speaks to her lack of maturity. I agree it appeared to be superficial and inauthentic. She has a lot of growing to do which was Keith's point. Although I agree he made mistakes as well.
@deloresboudreaux2755
@deloresboudreaux2755 3 жыл бұрын
Keith and Iris are both immature and need to explore each other on an adult level.
@ericajohnson8321
@ericajohnson8321 5 жыл бұрын
The Miss America and Miss Universe pagents loves virgins, Iris will end up in one of those pagents. She might not win, but being on MAFS was the start of sonethings for her.
@SugaLuv2
@SugaLuv2 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think Keith or his mother likes Iris' personality. She seems 2 have one of those personalities only a mother would love. Also, and it pains me 2 say this, but i think Iris reminds Keith of a teenaged girl...experience, body wise, attitude, everything.
@Indigenousinsight
@Indigenousinsight 5 жыл бұрын
I now know why Keith does not want to be with Iris. She is completely inauthentic. She is immature. I can’t believe she said that they may work if HE makes some changes. 🙄. I can’t believe she said the V word once again, or how she does not understand that her “trying”, was not real. It was just a check mark on the list. She did just enough to get credit. She still got defensive when Keith said, “you are not ready to be a wife”. He is the only one who can honestly answer that question. She is clearly not ready if she is not ready to give her all. I honestly think that her self worth is tied to her being a Virgin and her saying that she wanted Keith to teach her was a way to manipulate how she is viewed and to not acknowledge that she messed up. She was trying to make him feel guilty. She needs to find out why she is a Virgin because it obviously is not to save it for marriage. I bet her relationship with her dad treat and how he treats her is at the root. He cried at her wedding. Her dad is like Elizabeth’s dad. Only he values her purity, and in her child mind, if she is no longer pure, he won’t see her the same. Then she becomes like everyone else. That’s not easy to give up. Keith can’t compete with that.
@brahmabkitty03
@brahmabkitty03 5 жыл бұрын
Iris is the prime example of what's wrong with celibacy and keeping your virginity! The church hypes women up about saving yourself for the "one" but gives no insight about red flags, scrubs or any of that!!! That girl was misled like many are unfortunately. She needs to be woken up. Her life will never be a Disney movie. I'm glad she's kept it but she needs a reality check or she'll die a virgin.
@Chiyevo
@Chiyevo 5 жыл бұрын
Not true because we now know Keith was not attracted to her even his mum confirmed. Some of us not much older than Iris married as virgins at 29. Iris just got the wrong guy. Keith maybe gay. I think he is in the closet. How did he sleep with her on the same bed 8 weeks turning his back on a woman not even trying.
@capricorndrbird
@capricorndrbird 5 жыл бұрын
The reunion was a good way to catch up with the cast. I too noticed Matt being nonchalant. He never cared, honestly he could have appeared via facetime, lol. Iris is fooling herself talking about Iris is living her best life, NOT !!! Hopefully she finds a guy who's evenly yoked with her philosophy.
@shayshay7409
@shayshay7409 5 жыл бұрын
Are we going to blame the Momma Keith for not giving him better advice, when Keith stated he didn't feel comfortable talking about sex..... clearly, Momma Iris knew sex was going to be a problem and told Iris to consummate her marriage Obviously, Keith saw something in Iris he couldn't get pass
@GTDiva24
@GTDiva24 5 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing Iris didn't listen to her mama then. Keith just wasn't feelin Iris after the honey moon.
@shayshay7409
@shayshay7409 5 жыл бұрын
@@GTDiva24 Keith is not Matt.... Iris was friend zoned that's why she is a divorced virgin... annulment
@Chiyevo
@Chiyevo 5 жыл бұрын
@@shayshay7409 His mum confirmed he was not into her from the beginning. Those conversations were fake both mama and son were acting. Her posts are not positive to Iris. She said she cares about her son only. I don't think she is sorely to. Blame but she has a part. Go to her IG page. See her posts after reunion
@diva2.0diva20
@diva2.0diva20 5 жыл бұрын
@@Chiyevo Wow!
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