Marrying the WRONG Person, Relationships without INTIMACY & DATING After Divorce

[@HardlyInitiated]

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[@georgiarose3811]

I agree with taking your time and seeing a person in every season.

[@annetteclaus-madison9043]

Our father was a provider, but he wasn't there. But God, in his grace and mercy, allowed us to let dad know how much we loved him and missed him growing up and that we appreciated the life he provided for us. 😮

[@GrowingTestimonies]

The marriage, or Covenant relationship, is never the problem, because God is in it. The problem is refusing to follow the steps or process for outline as God has described or prescribed for us. Some people make the commitment without committing to the process. That's the era in most of our relationships, not committing to the process. The foundation is necessary at the beginning of any relationship and the Covenant is just a promise between the two people and God to finish the process. Everybody has an opinion or experiences, but the reality is that God's word does not feel because Love Never Fails

[@Algorythm-C]

Picked Vanity/fame and fortune over family shesssh. Lets all take heed.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

The success was to be true to God and His people

[@marcusmoore711]

Successful men think about sex. They are not controlled by it and discipline enough to focus their energy towards their goals

[@Happey67]

They (successful men) are usually not animalistic. Purpose is to build not get laid.

[@OGKuita]

This was such a great episode ! After hearing Bishop talk about his relationship with his ex wife was about business and they did everything together and the was the demise of their relationship. It sounded like her love language was Quality time not just the business she enjoyed spending time with him and knowing he was close by. Such a good episode !

[@Jovialjay86]

The terms and conditions have changed but people don't discuss it! 💎 I say that all the time. Monthly check ins are necessary!

[@adrianjackson3475]

He definitely gave gems . Some things like this you only learn on the way. Alot of people dont have it together ealry on . Great interview

[@avig8334]

Great dialogue. I’ve experienced a man that was attracted to what I was doing and cud do for him . Via him being attracted to me in a more romantic way. This guy ask for my hand in marriage. I told my guy we need to both hire divorce attorneys to ensure we are on the same page . During the conversations of Prenuptials my attorney mentioned that he didn’t like me in a romantic way . He liked what I cud do for him. I was heart broken however it was a very valuable lesson I learned as a young lady. I’m so happy I used my discernment before making a mistake in my life. I felt betrayed by him. I respectfully handed over all knowledge to his businesses and ended contact with him.

[@ledonahentley4488]

This is not just church folks, I know hella ppl that married for convenience, the love and the compatibility wasn’t there. We were made in God’s image- houses, money, is not enough. We were created to love and be loved. The need will come, unless you’re a psychopath. One person will wake up and realize there is no affection and no true companionship- they will complain and be unhappy and push for it and the other person cannot summon love and affection up within themselves for that person because it was never there. The relationship ends because ain’t no future in your fronting. The neglected one’s eyes open and they have to admit that the relationship wasn’t hitting on nothing from the get go- the party was never jumping, it was transactional and convenient- survival needs or a comeup. Everybody from the hood knows how it goes. The majority of our relationships are like that. It’s being spiritually dead, and having low self esteem. Until there’s a spiritual awakening and soul healing this is what people will do. And when you do find real love you’d better know how to pray because there will be at least 5 folks in your inner circle who will be envious, ‘cause they don’t have that and they don’t know how to get it. 0:57

[@yvettesinclair1717]

Even though my husband had checked out mentally, sexually, and emotionally - I'm choosing to stay hoping to build a foundation after getting married - Don't do this in this backward manner. I honor God and my vows, this is why I'm still here. I could leave today and my husband wouldn't care. I'm choosing not to walk just because I can. I'm trusting God to make a blessing of my trusting Him.

[@gwenanderson1972]

I’ve been where you are and I also got counseling so that I could see who God created me to be. I know how you feel about honoring vows and God, but understand that not every marriage is ordained by God, but He gives us grace if we choose to stay. My prayer for you is that God shows you exactly where He is directing you because sometimes, your spouse checking out is God’s direction. Hope this helps.

[@mra.4466]

I respect you ma’am. Will keep you in prayer. I pray whatever the discord you have gets resolved.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

@@gwenanderson1972 Most definitely. Friday he told me that he needed his space. I politely got up from the couch, packed what I had at his apartment, asked him to help me with my bags. Got in my car and drove to my house. Today, I got a text telling me that he can come cut the grass tomorrow evening. I waited for about 5 hours before I responded, telling him not to bother that It wasn't that bad. He thought that I'd be distraught. He treated me so badly in the past 5 months that he wasn't the only person that needed space. He thought I would be calling, begging, and pleading with him. I've been so stressed, and distraught that there wasn't a tear left. I was ready to part.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

@@gwenanderson1972 I so appreciate your post. I contacted legal assistance today, I need to move on, it's time.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

@@mra.4466 Thanks, I'm working on resolving this, I contacted legal help today, but he texted to come cut the grass. I laughed at myself when I thought "You want to cut the wrong grass." But seriously, I'm done. I start counseling tomorrow. Thanks for the encouragement.

[@la-vieborde2496]

I thoroughly enjoyed hearing from someone who is self aware and takes responsibility for his actions

[@Karlabeautifulheir]

He is speaking TRUTH!!!!Keep him on the roster!

[@veeboss4853]

Omg! What Bishop is saying is alot what women tend to go through when in a unhappy relationship/marriage. I would love him to be on a panel with KD, Sarah, and Kim (Dating Coach)

[@Junegermaine]

I appreciate the transparency here.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

WIDE AND RIDE AWAKENING after getting married - just remember to day without sex until you know or you go, but do it without sex. Keep your emotions to yourself until you know.

[@Gracious240]

Thanks for being candid Bishop. I learnt alot from this.

[@Waan_B]

You brothas have a powerful platform !! Love listening to the people you have on here ! Keep going brothas

[@HardlyInitiated]

Appreciate that🔥🔥

[@janiceborne8882]

Bishop you preaching and you teaching, real life issues

[@breeskilove4817]

I understand Bishop Davis because I’m a couple years younger than him. I was in Ministry during the same time & because I was single, it consumed my life. The demands on my time, all of the obligations, I missed most of my family time, events gatherings, even dating & exploring the world. I moved from my hometown & changed my perspective. I will never do that again. I so appreciate this conversation and I believe a lot of church people in leadership understand it also. I think it’s also different for a regular career & a call to ministry.

[@patrciakavini]

Enjoy the journey!! Loved that reminder! Also I think Bishop meant to say “we are spiritual beings having a human experience”. Very true, the part about how we tend to get into relationships without knowing ourselves, and how we need to not rush.

[@flo-dd5sw]

What type of Bishop is he? Marriage will never be at peace all seasons. You have to weather the storm. Thank God friends and I didn't listen to satan and outside voices to fight through what was ours. Peace together is so beautiful. It was so worth it.

[@francessmith3459]

Bishop, you're saying something; you're in the house! Listen up young people!!!

[@Karlabeautifulheir]

I cannot wait for this conversation. Patiently waiting 😊

[@eyeonfashionuk5352]

I loooove Bishop Greg Davis I can’t wait for his wisdom 🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@Jovialjay86]

I believe that gender roles are so important to the success of a marriage. I don't believe a woman's focus should be "climbing the ladder." And I'm a woman. Greg being attracted and entering a union partially because he admired her grind is so crazy to me. Also, Would it matter if she was high sex?? I don't believe so. It seems that he wasn't after that anyways. The goal was to gain success and she was the vehicle....that's why he "enjoyed the ride." And visa Versa. That marriage seems to have been a business deal for both of them which is why it failed. We definitely need to ask questions and find out each others WHY. That discussion could have been so instrumental. Nonetheless I appreciate his transparency and wisdom.

[@lala5061]

Yep, that's how I feel I was just the vehicle 😒

[@janiceborne8882]

And experience is the best teacher

[@yvettesinclair1717]

See a person in all of their seasons good advise.

[@MsLady-gb3gy]

I like how he says over and over his family and wife ❤They not acknowledging the love he has for her ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ashlinaash5612]

THIS is super and the whole information the advice . sshhhsh thank you thank you

[@julietoneill1268]

When you look at great men's the Bible it was their journeys that was remembered and their faithfulness. In marriages and relationship when there is a problem check the foundation always. Thanks y'all for this episode 💯👌👏

[@bernardhenderson1146]

Agree... We do shut down...

[@SamanthaEbuzeme-j2f]

Y’all work harder than a motherfucker! Everytime I blink it’s a new episode. Love it

[@VickyRueMadziwa]

After listening, I don't think this was about marriage and divorce at all. This was more about Erick Erickson's identity versus confusion developmental stage. According to psychology, if a person skips a developmental stage, at some point in life, you are forced to experience that stage still. His self- discovery journey took on a 'church rebellion' which we saw through refusing to work on the marriage and choosing divorce. It's a kind of Good boy gone Bad scenario.

[@Heyu7her3]

"Identity crisis" and "arrested development"

[@scoopwilliams4963]

He is a very successful business man

[@W.I.F.E]

😂 the sound effects be killing me!

[@eileenwatt8283]

A lot of marriages are like his and they are staying to save face. Some say it's cheaper to keep her/him.

[@lyrisgreenidge-adams5941]

Great interview. Bishop should write a book for married ministers, ministry workers and business owners.

[@sharonjohns1686]

Rgbak you. So many questions still not gotten. How do you build a foundation? Why couldn't he work it out with his wife? Did he try? How so?

[@michelle_9875]

Bishop is a very cool dude had the pleasure of speaking with him on club house 🙏🏽

[@anitraalexander617]

It's about to go down!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Iwilldoyes]

Great Platform

[@tawainahollis4770]

After the guest mentions the fact that they BOTH had children prior to their marriage, TJ emphasizes (rather loudly) “So SHE had children before you were married?!” Interesting.

[@Iwantallmymoney2024]

Yup!! Because men kids are not consider a burden for them. Smh

[@a1money215]

I just listened to this episode and I was very disappointed. First, he referred to the church as the “family business” but if you read scripture, Jesus himself turned over the tables in the temple for that exact reason. The world made the church and religion itself into a business model and he followed suit. Secondly, he should have stepped down as a Bishop if he was having marital problems. The fact he is a leader in the church and didn’t even take the time to save his marriage tells me he didn’t love his first wife as Christ loved the church. This is why people have to stop following men or women and read the word for yourself so you can differentiate these types of false prophets from true men or women from God. I am a new listener and may join the community but this wasn’t it for me. Go with God,Smh

[@Happey67]

So much responsibilities is put on the one woman. Lord! Take care of oneself, take care of the grown man, the children, and the rest of the world. Christ above. Does not sound like salvation was the focus, just profit for restaurant, businesses, luxury cars and all that stuff that money can purchase. Nice, exotic vacations. Not Christ centered.

[@GrigaGal]

Great dialogue!!!

[@baritunde]

He really didn't know her (AT ALL). If the last straw was her having an outburst telling him he never touches her & being upset because he didn't want/desire her, maybe her sex drive wasn't as low as he made himself believe. Maybe he was the one without the sex drive, but because he's a man, he won't cop to it. There are ppl of both genders who are cerebral, intellectual, sapiosexual who are turned on by mental stimulation. There is also the piece, especially among christian women, where women who embrace their sexuality, who like or love sex, are put down for it, accused of being promiscuous, called Jezebels, hoes, and are sus. And men want to enjoy them but feel they aren't wife material. A repressed woman who pretends like she doesn't care about sex is wife material; Someone who is married to the Lord who the man can feel sexually superior to because he fears he won't be able to control the woman who hits him with the knock out.

[@GoldenGraham25]

You can’t call yourself a follower of Christ and dismiss the command to abstain from fornication, and/or adultery. No other way to slice it. As a single woman who is a follower of Christ, I desire sex everyday but I must resist to please the supreme God because my body belongs to Him before myself. When I marry, my body will belong to my husband and his body will be mine to be enjoyed. That’s the gospel truth.

[@cwc704]

Wow!!! " had a fear of losing it all!" Not losing his relationship with God -- not fear of failing his flock -- WOW!!! Losing money! Calls being g a pastor -- "The Grind!"

[@PublicSpeaking202]

CAN'T WAIT!🎉🎉❤❤

[@PsichoMofo]

"We are Humans having a spiritual experience" Woooooooo

[@iamsharondawebb9393]

I am not sure why or how this man is still a bishop. This interview highlights how selfish we can be more than anything. Its terrible that he fought for everything *EXCEPT* his marriage. It was over because he didn't want to do the work. Even if he had 'left the building' as he says, he could have come back if he wanted. Behavior like this makes me understand why people turn from God and the Church. People like him don't seem to care about pleasing God because they are more concerned about pleasing themselves.

[@eileenwatt8283]

They had a business marriage.

[@larhondathomas3785]

Peace alone🤔😌

[@rebeccaatwiine6603]

Please host him again to tell us about his childhood that influenced his first marriage and the way he loves or doesn't. Also host jis exwife to give us her story about the marriage and her childhood that influenced her allowing to marry a man she had only met for 2 months and who was detached from himself/emotionally shut down.

[@veeboss4853]

Seeee…. I need to get the membership and be a guest lol… I have a burning question for the next time a single women that only want these high value and high earning men…

[@tashaheidelburg5181]

He provided but never connected with his first wife😢😢

[@robinson7404]

“I’m a gemeni” respectfully, astrology is not a biblically sound concept pastor.

[@topflight7951]

Yeah I caught that

[@mjt2386]

success can kill the relationship!

[@yvettesinclair1717]

I just got married in January, but the marriage is totally sexless. Not my choice, this is my husband decision. He's upset with me about something, he doesn't talk, so I don't know why he's upset. He's been punishing me with no sex since March. He now tells me that he became upset with me bc I would leave. I would leave bc he didn't show any interest in me. I had to tell him that was his wife I need to be touched, if nothing but on my arm, my waist, my shoulder, he stopped holding my hand. When i say there was nothing that I knew I did to promote what he was dealing with. I'm still in love with him, but I'm very lonely.

[@Saywatnah]

How old are yall? If you don't mind me asking. Unless he has a medical condition, as a newly wed and him deciding to go without sex just 2 months after getting married looks sus. Men have testosterone build up so even the man with a low sex drive wants to have sex. If he's not getting it at home, who he getting it from? Even when a man is mad he has sex. I would pray and ask God to reveal anything in the dark.

[@baritunde]

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I hope you are seeking guidance, 1st internally, then maybe through counseling. Your husband is too immature to be married. This is not how you treat someone you claim to love. You have not said that he is seeking a solution or trying to fix things, but rather is punishing you like a child. I've seen so many women go through this. Only you know what's best for you but I hope you realize you deserve better and save yourself. God bless, Sis.

[@baritunde]

@@Saywatnah I agree with you that he might have married for ulterior motives & she needs the truth revealed.

[@lyrisgreenidge-adams5941]

He needs mental and sexual counseling and a medical check up. No sex in a marriage is not healthy. If he refuses to seek help you should divorce him.

[@GoldenGraham25]

That’s not normal by a long shot. I pray the answer is revealed to you because the math ain’t mathing. I can’t even be friends with someone without solid communication - it’s impossible to NOT be in communication in any relationship.

[@HardlyInitiated]

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[@antoniosmiththesellionaire67]

Wisdom

[@georgiarose3811]

I don’t like judging the man and woman of the cloth but for you to teach people about being in a biblical relationship and doing the opposite. Your own relationship make me question their true relationship with God. Charity begins at home if your home was reckless you had no business watching over souls.

[@GoldenGraham25]

You can ask questions. No one is above questions.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

This dude and his way of using the church for money is going to catch up to him, and ex wife will have to give an account for their actions. I have heard people talking about this going on in the church but I've not heard a so called bishop admit that they were pimping the church. I knew something wasn't quite right when he stated that he was once a preacher😐

[@GoldenGraham25]

Yeah, dude is definitely too focused on being “success driven” and “ambitious” to be a pastor after Christ’s heart. The fact that he chose his wife based on her ability to run “the family business,” is cringe.

[@BiggVJay313]

Pastor Greg dropped another powerful interview yet it’s only like 16k views because the platform selected a TRASH TITLE! If that title is what y’all came up with after this powerful information- Hardly Initiated- as a brand missed it! 💯🔥

[@HardlyInitiated]

What’s the title you recommend?

[@BiggVJay313]

I woulda have said: “Paster Greg Davis Breaks Down How Failure is SUCCESS in progress!” #RBCF BTW: Keep dropping that fire content! Me and wife watch y’all all the time ahch…Peace 💯

[@HardlyInitiated]

We appreciate it. Hope to see you both when we have our in-person experience. Be on the lookout!

[@BiggVJay313]

@@HardlyInitiated Absolutely!!

[@roseequartzz]

This man is as fluid as a 30 year old man.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

Greg couldn't lead because God wasn't leading him.

[@meekmeka7331]

That's good

[@AngelaElikya]

I definitely agree. That man didn’t say one word about God his story was about business and climbing the ladder... excuse me ?! Are you trying to be rich or preach the words of God and bring people to God?!

[@JessGoris]

I was saying this as I was listening…I was thinking, “None of this is how it’s supposed to work according to the Bible.”

[@TheyDTM]

@@AngelaElikyalmaoooo girl “the bishop” funny asf

[@TheyDTM]

@@JessGorison GOD 😂

[@adrianjackson3475]

He basically called it a business but doesnt wantvto admit it they treated it like rhat

[@enekneya7378]

Wow! YES!!!

[@enekneya7378]

Hey @Greg Davis

[@Saywatnah]

Bishop believing in astrology?

[@Happey67]

Don't you see something is wrong. Not the mind of Christ at all.

[@tropicallymixed.]

yea, threw me off too...........

[@JessGoris]

When he made the Gemini comment, I was like, “Say what now???”

[@GoldenGraham25]

You will know them by the fruit they bare.

[@tashaheidelburg5181]

I wonder what his sign is?

[@meekmeka7331]

Gemini, June 8th

[@december113]

Thisssss

[@rebeccaatwiine6603]

This is not clear at all. It's not good. Sounds like he is dragging the wife all the way..why foes he keeo saying yhe woman waa older loke he didn't know from the outset. She was 37 this is a high libido phase for women esp if the man takes charge. He was 31 with 2 children he wasnt 24. The ex wife was unlucky to have been married to this man. It's absurd. It's a terrible story of this man. He is not taking any accountability as regards the marriagyand intimacy as a head of the home/marriage. What initiatives did you out in place to build intimacy? He wasn't ready for love/intimacy. He was closed off emotionally .He was about business. I hope he got help.

[@yvettesinclair1717]

That's not providing, she could have done for herself what he was doing. They were stealing from the church, and folk who were pouring into the church to make him and his wife wealthy. That's so sad.

[@estherphillip]

Its very difficult to listen from this man...i can see hypocrisy all through him...old but yet still playing young guys games to fit in.. its ironic and sad!

[@olliesexplorations9532]

What’s confusing is you mentioned that she wasn’t highly sexed, and you also mention that she was in the bed with you and snapped that didn’t want her. Which is it? Was it you, or was it her, or both?

[@tropicallymixed.]

The Church is not a business.........

[@GoldenGraham25]

Amen! People are out here hurting and you have people wanting to fulfill ambitions and dreams of celebrity.

[@Thegracemade]

Ugh

[@yvettesinclair1717]

Using the church for money Wow!!!

[@mistahjay8598]

This is just my opinion, but I think bishops ex wife was to focused on being is competitor in Christ, instead of his partner in Christ, can't have two heads of house hold, and definitely not in the body of Christ, it's God, the husband, THEN the wife, y'all ain't supposed to be neck n neck. At least to me, so don't go bible beating me😂.

[@AngelaElikya]

He wasn't led by God himself that's exacly why is marriage was a mess money was the engine and the foundation of their marriage not love or God

[@JessGoris]

Nah, that’s not an opinion. If people were to “Bible beat” you, they would be AGREEING with your statement, not DISAGREEING because that’s exactly what the Bible says. The husband submits himself to God, the wife submits herself to her husband, the children submit themselves to the parents. This “bishop’s” marriage was a hot mess because it was everything that is NOT of God.

[@enekneya7378]

Hey @Hardly Initiated

[@estherphillip]

Its very difficult to listen from this man...i can see hypocrisy all through him...old but yet still playing young guys games to fit in.. its ironic and sad!