Michael Chan Wai-Man talks Secret Societies

[@esotericist]

Chan Wai Man and a lot of his 14K buddies were in a turf war over TST East in the early '80's when I was a club manager in Hollywood East - the best disco in HK at the time. As I remember they were up against either the Sun Yee On or the Wo Sing Wo. It ended up having to get the Special Branch to come mediate... Anyhow - I always remember having once to tell him to go smoke his joint inside, behind the multimedia glass display - instead of right at the entrance next to me at the kiosk. He gave me a real Bad Look... and a Diu Lai! I had no idea he was anything more than a movie star but found out later on he was a real 14K 'enforcer" !

[@joeswanson733]

i think chan wai man if in the italian mafia rank structure he would be on the same tier as a capo.

[@zetareticulan321]

I thought he was the number 2 guy. That would make him the under-boss.@@joeswanson733

[@wrk_in.progress7524]

@@joeswanson733yepp pretty much he was no 2 of the Tst 14k branch

[@oRealAlieNo]

14k red pole enforcer.

[@scienz]

He made a movie in the 80s called "The Club", directed by Kirk Wong. It's very rare and a great watch if you get lucky enough to happen upon a copy.

[@ridza76]

Once a legend always a legend

[@keigorjai01]

I saw his interview few days ago in Cantonese. He said that back to 80's, he took Bruce Lee's son (Brandon Lee) to a movie casting in Japan. The compensation for the movie was about 2.5M in Hong Kong Dollars and Chan Wai Man supposed to be taken 15% commission from Brandon Lee. But Brandon Lee rejected the movie cause he had been asked to imitate all the moves and action of his father. Brandon Lee told everyone that never called him a son of Bruce Lee again. Brandon is Brandon, Bruce Lee is Bruce Lee. Chan Wai-Man then ask if he is Chinese? Brandon replied him "No, I am an American". Then, Chan Wai-Man slapped his face hard. But Brandon didn't hit him back. The interviewer asked what if he hit back? Chan Wai-Man said "I was not as strong as Brandon, I also don't know if I would've won the fight after he hit me back. But he would be in a deep shit if he did hit me back, I have lots of "People" around me. Then, Brandon just left after he slapped his face. One more thing, he said that Bruce Lee is a Legend, but his son is a piece of shit. And Chan Wai-Man confirmed that Brandon is gay. My conclusion after I watched his interview, I respected Chan Wai Man a lot before this interview. But after this interview? No. Chan Wai- Man slapped a son of his friend who is already passed away. Plus, there is nothing wrong for a person who didn't want to live under a shadow of his father. You slapped Brandon's face? because you don't agree with him? To force an American to admit that he is Chinese? Even Bruce Lee is an American. Or he ruined up your 15% commission? And you tell everyone in front of the media that Brandon is gay? No more respect for this guy.

[@zetareticulan321]

He slapped him for denying his Chinese ancestry. Didn't you hear him in this interview? He said he is very patriotic.

[@davidwoodrow5287]

I read about Michael Chan Wai Man and he was one tough cookie. He new Bruce Lee and called him the academic because of all the books Bruce Lee had. Bruce Lee called Michael Chan Wai Man the street fighter.

[@serafeimstefanou5877]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2bKpoJvrbJ2r68si=VotYqvrtXe6YNUZ_ He already admitted he couldn't beat BL

[@TheMelancholicTigah]

Man He Always Been...That DUDE!!

[@iznh2250]

Respect. Underrated actor. Real life tough guy.

[@dan020350]

“ secret society” -.- i think is mistranslation . The way Chan uses the phrase is call “ Helping Club/ public service/ charity, protection”

[@pookiepook7351]

LOL. Sounds funny all the euphemisms Chan uses.

[@resurrectedstarships]

I've always tried to figure out if the Triads were 'good', or 'bad', because it seem intertwined into HK culture, and southern Chinese martial arts. Now I see its kind of shades of gray.

[@PeckBoon]

It works both ways. The police need the different triads to control their own men and stay out of trouble. The triads need the police to do their business and dealings. So going undercover is common here and there, but of course it carries the risk of being killed. It's more about the balance between social order and money

[@nicksmith3746]

A bit romanticized IMO. They did collect protect money... 🙄

[@shijimashrieks9486]

they are a mafia street gang with high connections to the government. they are not good .

[@josephfung3058]

definitely a gray area... i'd say there were more "good" triads back then. the guys my dad grew up with were all honourable guys. i know a number of gang elders who are really good ppl despite being gangsters. but at the same time, they were more violent back then in the 60s up until the late 80s. many of the older guys are also very good fighters

[@gonkong5638]

@@josephfung3058 Cut the crap. those are shitty crimminal that sell drugs and human trafficking.

[@Mr.Deko86]

An interesting point I found is when Mr. Wai-man mentioned that the reason such a nightlife flourished was because of the lack of education. I think he was not necessarily referring to a formal school education only, but included people who were not educated on the basics that life requires to survive and improve.

[@awildarodriguez3454]

Thank you so Sir I will share this to Facebook..

[@calvinlincoln1896]

Grew up San Francisco on Michael Chan's movies. KUNG FU INVISIBLE FISTS, etc. His movies got me through a lot of not so good days. Glad he's around and in good health. He looks really good in this video.

[@jayceeinvincible]

Powerful words from a legend. Thanks for posting

[@kkakdugiman]

Oh my gosh!! is this the legend who played the main villain in the Five Elements Ninja??

[@pookiepook7351]

Yeah, that's him....lol. When I was a kid and saw the film, I didn't know it was him. But a few years ago when I saw the film again, I was like "OMG! That's Chan Wai Man!" LOL. He did quite a few films in the 70's, 80's and 90's. 5 Element Ninjas came out I believe in the early 80's....thats when I saw it for the first time as a kid.

[@kkakdugiman]

WOW! I can't believe this! This is a dream for me to find out about this person. The Five Elements Ninja (Super Ninjas) was released in 1982. I watched it in 1988 later. This actor used this spear professionally and whipped everyone in his paths. He actually did a lot of films. There was also a story behind his livelihood and was involved in the Secret Societies. Here's the link for your reading. Cheers! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chan_(actor)

[@JasonweedQ3]

Yes hewas great I actually cheered for the villain😂👍🏽 thats one if my faves 😀

[@dan020350]

when he narrator translated ‘secret society’ it literally means “helping organizations”

[@yhideit4427]

Wise Man ... speaking knowledge ... I listen !

[@vinnytesla9731]

68 years old.... dude looks as if he has youthfulness of a 40 year old

[@errolthomas9426]

Actually, Chan Wai Man aka Chen Hui Min aka Chin Hua Min is gonna be 74 this coming July 10th

[@pookiepook7351]

Professional athletes, especially martial artists and tournament competitors, usually keep themselves in great shape even in their old age by continually training and working out. This guy is real G.

[@Hon_cb1kr]

They used to be Lawful Evil and now it has become Chaotic Evil

[@lazymuthafkr9921]

Lmao! Yeah pretty much. Used to be about the honour!

[@cacoca79]

see the 80s is always included in the most glorious times of history, my childhood was the same until the early 90s, whether it was music, movies, everydy culture, pro wrestleing, stand up comedy and even the triads lol, 70s and 80s man all the way!!

[@canman5060]

Secret Societies are very delicate group of underworld people in Hong Kong.They can be very righteous and seek justice for all but on the other extreme they can be most violence and ruthless.

[@vaevictious]

never Heard so much shit in my life, not even from hollywood. some people are truly born to be enslaved.

[@flukeman022]

Funny how he justified his actions for being loyal to people he knows but probably sold drugs to people he never knew and fucked their lives and families. And he did say anyone wanted to start a business had to get his permission or he and his men would trash their business.

[@Toogoodtobetrue458]

he's O.G.

[@samchhin8]

@legitfreek those Triad (14K, WO Shing, TRG(CAM) are now located in shihanoukville cambodia

[@BowlofIndoMee]

I like his acting in old HK films

[@mikigalshou7806]

This is the man that is also famous for a fight he had against 15 men, unbeaten in the ring or on the street, check out The Club a true story based on actual events, he also is the star of that movie too

[@mindislife]

Do the fourteen fighters all dance around him while he fights one guy, just like in the movies?

[@chinmungkuan8551]

He real kick boxing, actor, former police, gangster and rank no 2 in his triad

[@azlaroc12]

First saw him in the movie Chinese Hercules with "Bolo" Yeung Tze back in the 70's. Still looks fit.

[@ericsilver6362]

"It was about righteousness, and the new blood has no rules." (paraphrasing) No, they just realized what mattered and didn't pretend to adhere to rules set to protect the upper levels that worked in his favor; not theirs.

[@Nam_creeper133]

This guy is the OG of Hong Kong gangster era! His speak from the true 💯%

[@xOFFtheCUFF]

nhan nguyen righteousness my ass he was no different than the thugs he mentioned.. he stole and forced people to give him money no different than a cracked on the street

[@Nam_creeper133]

Noctivagus Silecioso what do you expect gangster do? Sell flowers and cookies? At least he follow the code of loyalty and honour like a true OG. If you google his story and history he is the most respected OG in Hong Kong till this day.

[@MikeS24-v4s]

Very Interesting.Respects!

[@PreservedDragons]

+Mike Sheng Yes. True talk right there.

[@kwokleunglo1118]

英文名都譯錯？陳生的英文名是查李，不是米高？

[@brendanduffy2367]

The club is severely underrated best triad movie of all time in fact I'd say it's one of the best gangster films ever made.

[@youngvvyoungonevv8798]

it's called the club? I try googling it, it's there another name

[@brendanduffy2367]

@@youngvvyoungonevv8798 from director Kirk Wong you will not be disappointed.

[@brendanduffy2367]

Did you see the club yet?

[@youngvvyoungonevv8798]

@@brendanduffy2367 yea it was alright. i like young and dangerous better tho.

[@STORMYBMAN]

He should've been asked about the Triads being after Lee Siu Loong.

[@PreservedDragons]

+stormybman I agree. Maybe it was asked off the record.

[@incognoscente]

The strangest thing about all of this is that Michael's birthday is July 10 - the same day that Bruce threatened Lo Wei in 1973.

[@thetylife]

I had no idea he's a real life gangsta...thought he only play one in movies ..Cool!

[@keigorjai01]

He is not only a real gangsta, but he is also the big boss of gangsta who had lots of connection and good relationship with the gangsta from Japan and Taiwan.

[@heftarc3290]

So another true recount of how fucked up HongKong was under British rule and how everyone was in the mobs and how after the 90s thing got much better.

[@gallyWong]

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[@challenger516]

on9

[@gallyWong]

@@challenger516 ： go away

[@IOUBRO]

What does on9 mean

[@TheSilverMeridian]

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel

[@Soysauce337766]

the OG fighter

[@rowdyyates4273]

Maybe he might know something about Bruce Lees Demise?

[@shoaibbyhassan343]

He was bruce lee's friend

[@bklue90]

he was awesome in deadly breaking sword!!

[@charlesleeray932]

bklue900 I agree and Chinese super ninja

[@out_of_control1]

The photo at 6secs..... just analyze it

[@freaker126]

saw him in some movies back then. Didn't know he was in the real triad. lol :p

[@JonKino828]

In those days, triads controlled the HK movie industry.

[@MrSingSai]

True. Lo Wei, director of Bruce Lee's first two Hong Kong films was in a triad.

[@pookiepook7351]

This clown probably had a role in Bruce's death. He just said in this interview that he was the collector for the Triads....he would shake down businesses and make them pay protection money. I'm sure he tried to extort money from Bruce for the Triads. Knowing Bruce, he probably told him "Fuck you and the Triads."

[@phoenixj1299]

@@pookiepook7351 But he is a friend of Bruce tho.

[@foreveragainOK]

I've read interviews with him about Bruce Lee ... he had great respect for the Dragon. He was one of the triads who was asked to have a friendly match with Lee. He said, "Are you kidding? Bruce would just embarrass me." The triads weren't controlling films in that era... it was the Shaw Brothers... so the triads had not motive to do away with BL anyway... not to mention that Lee had friends in high places in the official police (with 'connections') and the triads. Matt Polly's book goes into the extensive medical proof that Lee wasn't poisoned, there could be no huge conspiracy involving the government chemists, doctors, etc... and that very likely heat stroke was the final blow that killed the already weakened Dragon... he likely had heat stroke in his first collapse. When you have one episode, the body is very weakened to another episode. If heat stroke were known in those days as it is now as the leading cause of death in athletes in summer months, MDs would've at least told Bruce of the great danger and tell him to go to California. Of course, even then, it's likely he wouldn't have listened.

[@jasonchu4400]

also he took a lot of cortizone for his back injury which was a secret and cortizone is steroid that stops inflammation of his slipped disc in the spine from the hardcore weight training he does and the seizures he had with the heat stroke showed his body and organ functions we're being confused by this cortizone and cortizone back then is not that good or well studied. that mix with the pain suppressing medicine really made his body gave out even though he was strong AND healthy but pain blockers combine with the cortizone completely made the signal get blocked WHILE being EXTREMELY overworked without control or balance because pain signals being blocked and suppressing more and more inflammation everyday a organ HAD to give out at that point no matter if your bruce lee strong so his vessels took a lot of pressure in his brain where the headache was occurring but due to not knowing if its a problem or pain from having signals blocked from the pain killer....the body just worked extra hard without knowing any balance or limit and the pressure from the headache made the swelling occur to the point where it's just deadly but again the body did not know anything cause signal of pain was being blocked

[@trentduvalladiesmansexmach5883]

@@THENEONJAY hmmmm good shit ya smoking huh

[@yanero0215]

@@THENEONJAY is that person the same that saw Michael Jackson,Elvis Presley,Whitney Houston,Marilyn Monroe,and countless others dead celebritys in hell? Are you realy that dumb to believe that bs?

[@thejokerisme1978]

I thought he's gonna say anything abt Bruce Lee. It was clickbait😁

[@jeremy_lconsmule9701]

I think that he is right on with what he speaks

[@fkporsche1]

Gangster man! 🦅🦅🇺🇸 this guy can fight.

[@sivedan]

He is an old crook, that is upset because of competition from new crooks, there is no "Honor Among Thieves" Ask Sam Gravano, Ask Henry Hill, Ask, countless others that ratted on each other, stole from each other, murdered each other and others. He is right about one thing though, that the Triads were fully embedded in the society, probably still the same to certain degrees, both in Hong Kong, and in Japan with the Yakuza.

[@user-xu8ee2oj3p]

Mejor luchador la mafia admira ese luchador por los problemas que tuvo mucho le pegaba a todos pero como es parece como si fuera hoy que estuviera vivo Michael Wang Hai /Brucee Lee

[@Redtide]

哇。 黑色会什么勾当都做还可以把黑说到白啊。

[@limheechon8762]

他说他们以前的黑社会有道义和爱国的，那他说他们以前黑社会也贩毒，贩毒也是爱国??

[@boon1580]

this is what they call in HK "死吾知丑“。 extortion - taking a cut in all business's earnings without contributing to it, by means of force. very honorable according to him. drugs - help destroy someone's life completely, weakening a country's social and moral. very honorable for him. The fact that he still states them as being honorable is probably because he completely believes what he did is actually lawful. pathetic.

[@distinctloafer]

@@limheechon8762 可能是大家都卖，至少他卖到公正一些? 还是说收保护费他防止过分无止境的破害?

[@FlexWheeler2nd]

Talks about how back in his day, they were all about righteousness and honor. Yet glorifies and romanticizes how they collected protection money and sold drugs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TheSilverMeridian]

Just like the Pharmaceutical Industry

[@pookiepook7351]

@@TheSilverMeridian ....lol. You got a point though. But still, it doesn't let Chan or pharmacy industry off the hook....they all still crooks.

[@TheSilverMeridian]

@@pookiepook7351 lol what's your basis for moral behaviour? Just like everyone else, Practical Selfishness. "How can I massage your brain to get what you have? "

[@thetorrance3897]

very smart man....

[@hellovagim]

Very interesting

[@hebra]

Anyone know the story about Carina Lau raped by some triad in 80/90s.?

[@darrentay3547]

Contradicting. Does selling drugs considered an act of righteousness and patriotism?

[@tyng666]

he is the real deal.

[@jessicamoreno7135]

Cool story bro.

[@manbolomo]

Listen to his history and thinking about todays hong kong riot, you really see difference. An other funny thing is how they want hong kong back to how it was before, lol, like in the 7-90s?

[@volklupo5133]

"Good-bye, hero!"

[@davidchang5862]

Whether secret societies or triads or crime syndicates, gangsters are still gangsters. No matter how one tells you the kind of loyalty and righteousness he has to his mates or the party. It is practically nonsense unless they turn over a new leaf and become ordinary civilians away from a life of vices and debauchery.

[@charles2521]

I'm totally fine with them as long as they don't traffic in drugs or only traffic to territories stolen by the Anglos, just like the Anglos did.

[@layna-heyhey]

much like the African American, and Asian American Communities are in the US. Around about the same time too.

[@guxyguy7909]

what exactly is righteous about extorting money out of people running a business and selling drugs to kids? interesting take on the word righteous... :/

[@cody56011]

He just tryin to make it sound better for himself. Nothing righteous in triads. Money talks bullshit walks.

[@ericsilver6362]

...and why the fuck is he even opening his mouth to speak? How many people has he ran his fucking mouth to?

[@TCHUMJUSTDOITJONG]

He is right.These days is all about Money that's why don't get marry when you rich they only love your money

[@simba4599]

if you weren't paying attention, it was all about money for him and his crew back then too. and no he isn't right, he is just a delusional hypocrite. a hoodlum just like the hoodlums now. smh

[@MF-kk2cj]

陳先生勁

[@challenger516]

on9

[@FURDOG1961]

0:00

[@flukeman022]

Reminds me watching American mafia/gangsters documentaries based in the 60s - 90s when they had a strict code of conduct respect for respect now it's mostly about mememe. Obviously I'm not justify his actions or beliefs just saying.

[@lstarrtna4288]

Sad Bruce Lee was in a fucking hornets nest! This man sounds evil! -of course they killed him. God Bless Bruce Lee.

[@ChariotOfFaith]

Look if they were all at home playing GRAND THEFT AUTO none of these things would be happening.... Oh wait...hang on a minute....

[@holeefuk9894]

14k babyyyy

[@gh5643]

a man of honor.

[@MIKERTAS]

Whine glass on the couch very dangerous

[@rocksteady8705]

Why does he look like a secret Kung fu master🤔🤭😎

[@NangongReng1973]

Rock Steady He was a henchman before becoming a big boss himself. He once handled a gang of gangster wielding parang with his bare hands and save his boss.You can watch in KZbin in one of the boxing match against a Japanese boxer in the 1980’s.

[@cacoca79]

how do we know this trnsltion is ccurte

[@oldiesfreek]

Because a Cantonese like myself says so :)

[@Nobodyisalone]

Greed destroys all! Happy apocalypse!

[@carlosmuchachon2212]

Respect.

[@jewelsoflife2810]

This didn't have a damn thing to do with Master Lee. I hate click bait.

[@PreservedDragons]

Read the description on what I wrote about Bruce and then listen / read his words how he paints the picture of early 70s Hong Kong. It's very bleak and dangerous. That was what Bruce had to deal with and justifies why he wanted to return to the US (to make better films and I suspect, less off screen distractions).

[@jewelsoflife2810]

Marten GO Dude what are you talking about ? When Master Lee died he didn't get to see the success of Enter The Dragon, so at the time he was still looked down on by western civilization and was begged by his wife Linda Lee to go back to America in which he refused. Also Master Lee was laying people out everywhere he went including the states so that doesn't matter.

[@PreservedDragons]

Did you listen to his interview with the writer for Esquire magazine? That's where he mentioned plans to move back to the US /geXtIbN0szQ?t=2m44s (the interview). So despite all the racism, Bruce would rather live in the US and "stay there" in his words because it was obviously better than life in HK at that time.

[@jewelsoflife2810]

Marten GO Question is when was the magazine released ? Because if it was before his death then ill take your word for it.

[@PreservedDragons]

The magazine spread ran in Aug. 73' issue. Bruce died after it hit the newsstands as mentioned in Black Belt Magazine Oct. 74 issue - page 56 (google it).

[@jimw8615]

He talk as if he was very proud of what he does as a big brother. Self righteousness about all the bad stuff he has done. Sigh....

Wai man chan ordered the killing of B L and his son brandon as well

[@nikitavlog3832]

OLD MEN FEAR YOUNG DRAGONS

[@hotlanta35]

No they dont

[@នាគរាជនាគរាជ-រ6ស]

បង្រួមបង្រួបបក្សអា14kនិងបក្សអា7+1និងបក្សពួកកុងហ្វូដើម្បីហុងគុង

[@dan020350]

:) education has failed, otherwise money would not be the priority

[@Veloce2000]

Respect true underworld. They have principles and ethics.

[@frankiegandarilla4778]

True old school rules from an old school Gangster.Times have changed its all about the money now material things in life instead of life

[@tinlunlau1]

this man starred in a movie that my grandpa produced. unfortunately it was one of those damned bruceploitation flicks.

[@incognoscente]

What movie was it?

[@tinlunlau1]

@@incognoscente the big boss part 2 唐山二兄

[@incognoscente]

@@tinlunlau1 Awesome. He must have some wild stories.

[@relaxationstation7374]

As A Grand Inquisitor Level True Master Pimp and Grand Inquisitor Level Predator I can tell you that, the conditions that this underworld master is describing only emerge in the absence of balance in the form of family dysfunction and subsequent single parenting. Underworld discipline and civility are ultimately underpinned by overworld discipline and civility... In the absence of basic family structure and basic family values there can be no underworld family structure and family values. In this world there is only balance and collapse and in the absence of balance there is inevitably collapse. When families come apart people evolve into wild animals and in every corner of society it becomes an every mouse for himself type ratrace / struggle for survival. Capitalist education systems make people worship numbers over everything else and people subsequently become completely numbed by the numbers, which is the whole and sole purpose of their creation. The real gangsters who have completely turned the modern world completely upside down are in fact Indians and Pakistanis, that's whose ultimately long been secretly running all of the thugs, drugs, weapons, warlords, religions and vicious government policies that create wars that ultimately very precisely target India and Pakistan's ancient enemies, colonies and regional and global competitors like Afghanistan and China. Without Indian numerals, which are mistakenly called Arabic numerals, the number 0, The Syntax Computer Language System which underpins the global computer system, The Indo-European family of languages and innumerable belief systems, including academics and money worship, all of which come directly from India, there could be no modern civilization. www.amazon.com/dp/B00CFPN4A6/ref=rdr_kindle_ext_tmb www.amazon.com/dp/B07DD6J49S/ref=rdr_kindle_ext_tmb

[@smart422]

This guy is corrupted