Martial Arts Instructor Reacts: Ip Man 3 - Ip Man vs Muay Thai Fighter

[@bilaljaved799]

In this scene the actress actually got hit in the face when donnie yen was defending her and she refused to do another take until donnie convinced her she wont get hit again lol

[@Dabluekitten]

:O

[@Waffalish]

Thats hilarious lol

[@flashergoldpower15]

Oh wow, I didn’t even know that. So basically they did a full take after that accident

[@bilaljaved799]

@@flashergoldpower15 yh there is a behind the scenes on youtube about this scene lol

[@flashergoldpower15]

@@bilaljaved799 oh sweet. I’m going to check it out!

[@ChaoticNarrative]

This fight has some of the finest camera work I have ever seen in a movie, that tracking shot down the stairs, rotating into the landing and then following again down another flight of stairs was really smooth.

[@eternaleclipse2552]

Check out the Daredevil stairway fight scene. And Daredevil in general.

[@carllubrin8518]

Thank Bruce Lee

[@nerfy1166]

Jackie Chan

[@AzNightmare]

*This is actually my favourite fight in the entire Ip Man series. It's not that important of a fight plot wise, but the reasons you mentioned is literally why it's so memorable.*

[@420gaiden]

Agreed. Absolutely. What an amazing scene.

[@nameless70]

The guy is actually a muay thai martial artist and stunt man. He was part of tony jaa's stunt team. It looked like he was doing more muay boran than muay thai. He is a stunt man so they had to modify the fight scene to fit the movie. Of course donnie yen (ip man) is going to win.

[@stephanieturner-rodriguez8314]

I Strongly disagree with this instructors statement that in close quarters IP Man would have been at the disadvantage I say that since wing chun kuen is SPECIFICALLY made for CLOSE QUARTERED COMBAT then muay Thai unless kept at kicking and elbow range to ever hope to be even slightly effective in close hand to hand combat range muay Thai looses to wing chun kuen every time

[@evokaiyo]

@@stephanieturner-rodriguez8314 And I strongly disagree with your statement. To quote Ip Man in the first movie, after the Northern style martial artist loses to Ip Man: "The problem is not the with the martial arts style. The problem is with you."

[@stephanieturner-rodriguez8314]

@@evokaiyo that's exactly your problem I speak of real world experience yet you speak of a line from a movie script ripe with things that are not true or part of true authentic wing chun kuen when you brings facts that you know to be true because you've done it yourself then speak to me but dont MOCK yourself with movie script logic

[@stephanieturner-rodriguez8314]

@@evokaiyo you even completely missed the meaning behind that made up line that IP man never said he wasn't even talking about gung Fu at all at this point he was addressing the fighters lack of spiritual developing his arrogance was his enemy and the cause of his defeat not his gung Fu style

[@evokaiyo]

@@stephanieturner-rodriguez8314 I speak Cantonese, so I know exactly what Ip Man said and Cantonese cannot be translated directly. As you have proven yourself to be extremely narrow minded in your original statement and replies, what he said can also apply to you. Simply put, it is ones own skill/ability and mindset/way of thinking that limits yourself

[@cloudstone123]

The Muay Thai fighter is Simon Kuke, a Thai stuntman, action star, and action choreographer. He trained in Muay Thai, Aikido, Tae Kwon Do, and Wushu.

[@IsaacMugisha-y6d]

So he purposely lost to IP man

[@bigbywolf5197]

Shut up Isaac

[@humanshieldz]

Fact that Donnie Yen was already 52 when this movie was out made it even more amazing that he's still that agile.

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

right!? Hope I move half as well at his age!

[@acharat6]

I think he was 56 for Ip Man 4. He's arguably even quicker in the final fight from that movie. It's a brutal fight too and Donnie Yen was seriously hurt to the throat while filming. They kept the shot. That guy is f****** immortal.

[@icyboy771z]

He fought 7 guys in his youth and sent them to the hospital. If you watch his younger vids his speed is godlike prob only 2nd to the legendary Bruce Lee.

[@Vyselink]

I think my favorite part of this is that, from 2:26-2:38, as far as I can tell anyway, it's just one shot. Great visual.

[@shadow_crne1030]

Totally agree, mate ............ love the timing of this kick 2:36 sending him down the stairs.

[@SondaLovesElly26]

Fuk yes! How the Muay Thai guy misses the sweep and gets spartan kicked down the stairs 😂

[@kimzammit185]

It's a common misconception that wing chun requires space to execute, when actually the whole objective is to close the gap and attack in close quarters, that was the concept the elevator scene was trying to achieve. The stairwell scene was very well done, with the intention to show the geometry and structure to the system, displaying the triangle form of the stance and its effect, although they keep trying to depict the yee jee kim yeung ma as an immovable position which its not.

[@whittakerdanielj]

Well said.

[@tygon13]

I was just about to say something to this effect.

[@catz9]

you are right he does not know what he is talking about

[@tajkhan6438]

it is immovable, proven by my sifu. I couldnt move the man. please speak for yourself.

[@tygon13]

@@tajkhan6438 um... You might want to reread what he wrote. He said that the position is not immovable, but hyped up in the film as such. I'm thinking that maybe you confused the name of the position with the name of some instructor... And then confused him saying that it wasn't immovable with him saying that it was?

[@dirtandsilkk]

The scene is truly emotional. The woman was IP Man's cancer stricken wife, so to attack him with his sick wife in the elevator pissed him all the way off and it was awesome. You could feel the anger and emotion in his attacks

[@timephire]

This is my favorite fight out of all the Ip Man movies. Never attack a man with his wife there. Donnie had to lay it on him extra for that. Lol ;o)

[@wasabi-in-my-eye3134]

The camera tracking them down the stairway is brilliant. Good flow. Non of those shaky stuffs.

[@bangscutter]

That's what you get when you film actual martial artists who can fight. Can do long takes. Whereas if you film someone who has no fighting skill, you need to do multiple short cuts.

[@RadeticDaniel]

no dark environment or blue light as well and none of that PG13 hollywood curse of cuting away before any strike actually connects just good camera work on visible conditions for a well constructed and well exectuted coreography

[@unkkit151]

The uncut scene that ended with the Muy Thai guy falling down the stairs is next level Kung Fu movie. Just amazing.

[@lordbiscuitthetossable5352]

I love the repressed fury that was being exhibited on the stairway. You could literally visualize the fury despite outwardly maintaining his composure. Like, you could feel IP's anger at his wife being targetted that he just doesn't exhibit to many other people, aside from that time he took down 10 Karate guys. Props to the actor for taking those incredible falls, holy shit taking those falls as a stunt guy deserves so much respect.

[@elgoblinocoolio4378]

I know this is unrelated to your awesome comment but your pfp looks so badass. Did you make that character in Heroforge? I love that website! Your dude looks a bit like Reaper. Really awesome bro.

[@drewdrew0_011]

I'd recommend checking out the final fight scene for Bruce Lee's Fist Of Fury!

[@darrienscott7048]

Which one cause Fists of Fury released in America is the Big Boss in China and the Fist of Fury in China was the Chinese Connection in the US.

[@drewdrew0_011]

​@@darrienscott7048 The one where he plays Chen Zhen

[@Marcustheseer]

irs cool when fighting is so naturel and instinctual that you can have fun and make good counters.

[@shadow_crne1030]

That's what fighting should always be like; .......... muscle memory and instinct: Like a dance!

[@Soulrollsdeep]

One of my favourite fight scenes, ever. Whoever that Muay Thai guy is, is a fucking monster

[@420gaiden]

One of my favorite fights in this whole series. I love how IP MANs wife looks at him when it is all done and relieved that he was okay but also knew that he was going to be okay.

[@MarquessBrownix5]

I love the Ip Man films. Donnie Yen's sense of calm and purpose is absolutely gripping.

[@mountaintiger6945]

I was surprised when my Wing Chun instructor introduced me to elbow strikes, until then I didn't know we had those in the style.

[@SwordTune]

I think people are usually surprised with how versatile the kicks and elbows are in WC, most only think about the hands and oblique kick. However, you shouldn't be limited just by what some people did in the past. Ip Man's WC was just his tool for teaching martial arts to as many people as possible. One man's teaching philosophy can't be made into an entire system without become too rigid. Wing Chun is one of the traditional martial arts that has the best chance to modernize itself and be more practical.

[@mountaintiger6945]

@@SwordTune You're right about it's versatility, I learned that by watching Master Z teaming up with Master Ip in the movie. I've studied the various stories on WC origins and have come to the conclusion that they're not separate stories but continuations of the same story, I hit a wall though in the connection with the 5 masters who escaped the destruction of the temple and Wing Chuns teacher. The 5 were male her teacher was female, the temple wasn't co-ed, so it's still a mystery, except for that all the stories line up with each other from what I've been told of the reason WC was developed in the first place up to it coming to Hong Kong. BTW speaking of modernization, have you seen the new version being taught in Germany, it definitely has it's origins in WC from the demos I've seen posted on KZbin. My instructor is Jose Grados of NYC, you maybe never heard of him but that's ok, he's got some good vids here on KZbin if you're interested.

[@ianmpena]

Thai fighter wasn't really Muay Thai it was more Muay boran bc Muay boran is like a mixture between Muay Thai and taekwondo together because Muay boran has more jumping and kicking

[@Z4U3398]

Mixture between muay thai & TKD? Nonsense! Muay boran has it's own unique forms & techniques. That are nothing like TKD. Man, I hate it when TKD guys try to promote their useless martial art by riding on the fame & reputation of other actual tried & tested combat systems. Like muay thai. Face it, pure TKD is a *joke* both in & out of the ring. Without combining TKD & basic kickboxing? These K-Pop fighters get floored 9/10 times because TKD, as a *combat system* is fantastical, impractical & flawed for real world application. Like, who even stands a chance in the Octagon or ring using pure TKD, tell me? Bouncing around like a Mexican jumping bean & spinning like a ballerina when cornered. With no basic boxing nor clinch-work. A waste of time is what TKD is.

[@Aracne80]

one of my favorite scenes by far in any fighting movie. I know that the choreography is stretched to fit the wc-style, and Donnie just get everything right down to every little move, making him look out of this world. In reality, this would've probably ended in a whole other way. But all of these movies (only seen 1-3 though) are so beautiful, almost every scene gives me the shivers. Damn good acting.

[@artguy7992]

i agree , irl muay thai is more practical

[@jalynnsmith6059]

You could say this fight has had its ups and downs😂

[@gcswift2]

As a former Wing Chun student, I'd argue that a Wing Chun student can fight in a bathroom stall, while a Master can fight in a phone booth. The art is ALL about closing the distance.

[@Rubisco2510]

Have you seen a Thai fighter tho… more so if they can headbut. People like to glorify king fu cus “they learn since childhood”. Well that’s what Muay Thai fighters do. They fight in arenas for money from age of 7. Their knees break ribs. You can’t sticky hands out of that. Can wing Chung counter a clinch… sure, but no one clinches out of nowhere. They set it up with punches kicks elbow and knees. Thai fighters fight weekly. They are fucking tanks.

[@fionatsang9353]

Absolutely. Wing chun is designed for, and is most effective at, close range. There's a reason the one inch punch is part of the repertoire; the chain punches don't need a centrifugal wind up like a roundhouse, it's blunt force with the elbow directly behind the knuckles for added strength. If a roundhouse is like swinging a bat at someone's head, a wing chun punch is like ramming the end of the bat directly into someone's face. The blocks rely on being in close range too; it is actually a danger for martial artists whose ideal striking distance is longer range because it can get in under their guard. (I don't know enough about muay thai to compare the two; trying to stop knee and elbow strikes with standard wing chun blocks would be brutal, better to try to disrupt their balance by attacking when they take one foot off the ground or commit to a strike)

[@johnnyking5145]

Donnie yen is a badass

[@makeda6530]

YEeeeees, my favorite Ip Man 3 scene! It's so cool watching him deflect the blows from his movie wife and own the dude down some stairs.

[@MEDiumInc]

Please do Tony Jaa The Protector - Stair Fight. It was all done in one take and is one of the most incredible cinematic fights ever choreographed.

[@teenbizthekid]

i think he did that one already

[@jamesrawlins735]

By far my favorite scene in all of the Ip Man movies

[@DarthDah]

one of my fave fight scenes in the entire saga.

[@Elaquent]

You should check out the final fight scene for Jet Ali’s unleashed. Awesome close quarters fighting

[@j.hdiscipline7490]

the muay thai isn't really muay thai, it's ancient muay thai

[@samdakmacanduc17]

Muay Boran

[@yongjiean9980]

Muay Thai is the modern state endorsed and sanction form of Muay Boran...

[@RayGory]

Im thai and i can guarantee that not muay thai and very very not ancient muay thai(muay boran). Muay thai not use elbow and knee like that because that decrease power of moves in elevator small space muay thai should be lock Ipman neck and then clinch knee to attack core body and elbow will focus to chin. I will not talk about muay boran bcuz that art of nine weapon its more detail.

[@TheHellSpawn000]

Simon Kuke was actually inspired by Tony Jaa to take up Muay Thai. And Simon Kuke is also quite the Muay Thai artist and Thai boxer himself, doesn't do it as much now as hes into Choreography and Producing but he can still throw down. The same person that Taught Simon, Taught Tony Jaa.

[@origamichik3n]

Can we all appreciate how much Kenji Kawai soundtrack elevates this fight.

[@DigitalPhreak765]

Hey Max.Thank you for posting this.Do you recommend any books on Muay Thai at all for some one starting out 😀

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

If you're looking to learn techniques there is a good book by Christoph delp called Muay Thai Basics you can find on Amazon or other book stores. If you're looking to learn about what it is to fight and live Muay Thai a book called On Fighting In Thailand is a great read! For a good channel to watch for beginners try Muay Thai PROS kzbin.info Or Bazooka Kickboxing kzbin.info Yes its kickboxing but it's a good place to start anyway.

[@darthdeluxe_1]

I Love Wing Chun. A Friend of mine teached me some Lessons and Forms. Mainly self Defence. But I taught myself the first form Siu Nim Tao.

[@DantesPop]

I just like that he can differentiate Muay Thai vs another based on the positioning of the foot in relation to the leg. Obviously there are some liberties taken with that it is a movie (reduce injury) and that they are on stairs (reduce injury), but he makes some good points. You know he was right on the elevator comments. The one thing I would call out is the lack of power attacks which are often used to weaken defense or intimidate, which has the same effect.

[@clark7842]

The way donnie yen flips the muay thai guy is so impressive, i've done that with my friend😅

[@yahwehsonren]

Thank you from Indonesia

[@a-blivvy-yus]

"Grabbing the leg like this is really nice because you can lift them up and dump them really hard: *unpause* "...yeah like that"

[@n0body550]

“Like he just did” If you’re going to quote, do it correctly

[@a-blivvy-yus]

@@n0body550 You noticed I misquoted every bit of the line to exaggerate the point it was making, right?

[@n0body550]

@@a-blivvy-yus no. I see what i want because chicken doesn’t cook properly it keeps clucking

[@lystic9392]

I think muay thai and wing chun are very interesting martial arts. They also make for a very interesting sparring combination because the styles use almost polar opposite foundations, though they both prefer elbow/knee range. Because the styles are almost polar opposites, I actually don't know if they can learn much from each other. A bit like oil and water.

[@rook3364]

Thai boxing have alot of styles the one u see today is the newer muay thai the older thai boxing style is too deadly only trusted ones are trained, and it is very hard compare to the newer style.

[@thatonechannel7045]

One of my all time favorite fight scenes

[@SwagimirPutin]

I just want to see Donnie Yen fight a nice guy from Canada and when he assumes his fighting stance, the Canadian guy just goes "You're my friend, pal!" and shakes his outstretched hand.

[@2551987ezio]

For sure. I'm Canadian and I'll definitely give him the Canadian hospitality 👍🏻

[@ReachingHigher001]

1:57 - "Oh, my God. I think I just got pregnant." 😆

[@isaiahwoodley8774]

I love the camera shake at 2:23 fr fr!

[@cruzanlusion9159]

Yo this scene I watched 10000000 times bra it was crazy

[@jdsim9173]

Remember this movie is to make IP man look good, not who would actually win

[@craigjomaia]

As far as the muay thai guy having any advantage in the elevator, it is a common saying that a wing chun expert has all the room to fight he needs in a phone booth. I agree they could have done more with both of them as far as close in work went, thai elbows versus chi sao, etc.

[@potatointhesky1232]

The sound effects are so satisfying

[@Kasper3x_YT]

What kind of block was that iP man used to stop the sunshine cartwheel

[@allenemillerjr6304]

How about Cynthia Rothrock VS Yuin Biao from Righting Wrongs or Cynthia VS Sammo Hung from Millionaires Express!

[@tarrker]

I was a fighter for a long time and I've studied lots of forms but, I do not know about styles. I don't know the names of things and, whatnot. So when someone says "This guy in this movie is this style" I just take their word for it. Then I watch and go "Oh! So that's Muy Tai.. Neat.". Not sure why I ever thought that was a good idea but, definitely regretting it now. x_x

[@Rubisco2510]

Movie fighting is whack most of the time

[@section9809]

My teacher said that Wing Chun was for fighting in elevators. I learnt Wing Chun to counter Muay Thai. There's is as much knee's and elbows in Wing Chun as Muay Thai. I have sparred with Muay Thai and my thoughts are Wing Chun dominates the Centre line but Muay Thai has superior conditioning. Congratulations on a 100 videos!

[@TheHellSpawn000]

Muay thai was more meant for ring combat... Wing chun was made from the ground up for Self defense and street fighting... Now try it against someone that practices Lethwei.

[@section9809]

@@TheHellSpawn000 Lethwei just seems to add headbutts and Judo style grappling to the mix. My comment wasn't about which is better rather how I added Wing Chun to my skillset. I already had training in Boxing and Judo and I felt that Wing Chuns Sticky Hands and Centre line theory covered things I was lacking in my movement. At the time, Muay Thai was becoming huge in my country and everyone was training in it so I felt that WC was different and most people were not equipped to counter it. These days, thanks to Donnie and the Ip Man movies, everyone knows about WC. Thanks for the reply.

[@rickthomas6606]

There is different types of blocks high end wing Chung in the clinch

[@uncookedeshay4582]

I’m aware this video is a bit older but the guy ip man is fighting is Simon kook he’s on tony jaa’s stunt team and done most of the fight pre-visuals for ong bak 2 and done a short film a long time ago basically imitating older tony jaa movies he definitely does Muay Thai he tried to make it flashy in this movie that why he does more tae kwon do style kicks and stuff

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

Yeah he is legit Muay Thai but the way it's used in the scene is not. It's more Muay Boran style with the stylized movements mixed with some TKD. His movement is awesome regardless

[@johngr1747]

I also like how the dude is just casually going around barefoot in a public place!

[@masodilla9572]

“The most Muy Thai thing about him is his tattoos.” 😅😅 hilarious

[@ZeroMalarki]

Love that Donnie blocks kicks with his arms all day like it's nothing.. don't want to say that's a tad unrealistic, because it's fun af, buuuuuuuut

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

right?? block maybe one or two hard kicks but that's about it

[@ZeroMalarki]

@@BurridgeMartialArts604 Yeah, it's like when Forrest Griffin won the UFC title from Rampage, Rampage was so cool and down to earth and admitted something along the lines of "If I blocked one more of those kicks, my arms would break"

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

@@ZeroMalarki if you want to see insane kicks, especially to the arms, check out Samkor Kiatmontep

[@ZeroMalarki]

@@BurridgeMartialArts604 Will do. By the way, do you have much opinion on taekwondo's place in MMA?

[@haowu9247]

Wing Chun is also a form of close bunt fighting, which is very suitable for close-range combat, and the footage shot from above in the film is a good expression of Wing Chun's center line, the theory of defending the center line, and the Jeet Kune Do theory of defending the center from this

[@ryanb55]

Donnie Yen's choreography is fantastic. Hands down this is what makes the series through the 3rd movie great!

[@dtyodeller]

Wing Chun was created specifically for close quarters like this so Ip Man actually has the advantage in this fight.

[@sistemadeautodefensa]

Those motions are really fast!😯 . About the kick intercepted with a tan sao, (min 3:05...) couldn´t be a frontal kick instead of a circular kick?🤔

[@evanpastor7305]

Poor Muay Thai guy, he didn't even get his slippers

[@djVOME]

I gave you a search from this earlier, here is another search. There are cooler fights, but I cannot find them chopped out. "jia sidao vs one hundred eyes vs red Lotus chief"

[@BabuBabu-ud1ju]

Muay thai power full🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@alfredosalazar7033]

Idk if anyone noticed, but the way ip man, I can't remember his name well, has his hands, they look like someone aiming a gun. Specifically a pistol.

[@JBtheWARVillain]

Wing Chun actually doesn't want distance but close quarter combat. This is why we practice on the Muk Yan Jong - Wooden Dummy form for close quarter, trapping, elbows and joint attacks.

[@ghostbeetle2950]

Cool scene, good breakdown, but I'm REALLY loving the Harry Potter collection behind you!;)

[@williamstackford]

the muay thai guy didnt go back for his sandals lmao

[@tovopro]

I love how Burridge only speaks to the film and the cinematic world and really gets into it. That's what it's all about. Love your analysis and breakdowns! But let's face it, in real life, Muay Thai would so dominate Wing Chun.

[@KingHasian]

Fair point. There’s a lot of dark truth around wing chun and tai chi( sorry if I spelled those wrong) they both have been used as propoganda, it’s very interesting to research

[@danmc5542]

Trained in both, and it is not about the differences in techniques. It is about how you train and different amounts of skill, strength, speed, etc., these determine who wins. Some Wing Chun when used against Muay Thai are just great. Most MT artists will not handle well the difference between a fellow MT practitioner parrying a teep, versus a WC practitioner doing gan-da, which is a shift of weight away from the teep or kick, parrying, and moving in close and getting under the leg that just tried to teep. But, if the MT artist starts using a low kick to the knee, the WC guy will be hard-pressed. WC's answer would be to get in before the kick lands, but unless you have seen the kick a thousand times, that timing is going to be hard to find. How you train makes all the difference.

[@rjframe4410]

the teep i think was to push him into the lady and keep him distracted, get um worried about protecting other people and they forget to protect themselves

[@jamesduke3285]

I'd recommend you look up the raid or the raid redemption the fight scenes are crazy

[@jdsim9173]

Any scene with Mad Dog

[@MontyQueues]

if you wanna show a "wing chun" person beating a muay thai fighter... do it with respect show the guy out beating all the muay thai techniques like clinching and leg kicks etc...

[@amyicy9333]

when gets out elavator its like NOW ITS ON 🕶😎

[@MrLuistrike]

im enjoy this video from Colombia.

[@chrishubbard64]

Isnt a part of wing chun the ability to basically be in an enclosed space and control it? I remember one of the times he showed off he literally stood on a newspaper and said he wouldnt leave it for the entire spar to prove his point. So I always took it as ip man being in as much of an advantageous position as his opponent because of that. And then dude nearly punched his wife. At that point you could almost hear the mortal kombat theme start. Possibly the Doom soundtrack.

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

They are both very close range styles with different approaches. I ahve not experienced any wing chun close range before other than Chi Sau (I think thats how you spell it) drills years ago. I have however clinched with some Muay Thai monsters and it is hard to describe how oppressive and dominant a good clinch can be, there is absolutely no room to move unless they allow it. I would have also liked to see more of a close range showcase from these guys

[@ExploreWyoming]

Do Rama vs Assassin from the Raid 2! One of my favorites

[@svenkrisenberg6684]

Man lost his dignity and his sandals within 3 minutes

[@bishopjordan9482]

He's using a mix of Taekwondo and Muay Thai. Often the fiercest and most formidable opponents you can face are ones that use multiple aspects from different styles. Any more than 4 or 5 and you start to get into Batman territory, where no matter who you're facing at all, you have a multitude of options on how to offend against them and defend against them and you can become very difficult to beat.

[@alanburns2815]

The other guy is Tony Jaa. He has done quite a few films of his own, his Ong Bak films are incredibly violent and well shot action sequences.

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

The guy in this scene is actually Simon Kuke, he was Tony Jaa's stunt double in Ong Bak 2

[@warrior_of_da-Tetragrammaton]

Ip Man: You put my wife in danger. Game over

[@dr.dylansgame5583]

to be fair while people dawg on wing chun when done free flow not sticking to formalities similar to the jeet kune do style of thinking it would absolutely be monsterous at close range think about it for a second imagine trying to fight someone point blank has has perfectly parried and gotten both your hand trapped with sticky hand and your feet with sticky feet which IP man did invent and use and was even shown in this scene in an enclosed space to boot wouldn't give you many options to counter back with if you tried to clench you can't really knee since horse stance and sticky feet basically cut off any low and low mid section blows since you cut them off before they can even get to full momentum or even start at all this is similar to a boxer coming in point blank and eating a punch to cut its power in half you cant do anything if all your strikes are getting canceled out from being redirected this all simulatiuously getting hit with a shit ton of counter strikes that don't require wind up since there straight down the centerline

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

the only problem with that is the the WC Practitioner has to be perfect in every way, whereas an adequate Muay Thai practitioner can do a ton of damage with knees and elbows in the clinch. If they were both masters it would be closer, sure (which in the movie yes). But the skill level required for that level of execution is incredibly high. For me, effectiveness comes from what skill level do I require for this to be effective. If the skill level is low for it to work (but can always be improved on to become more effective) then that is effective. If something requires years and years of mastery to become effective then it is less effective in my eyes. Mastery is always something to strive for but for me simple is always best

[@stanleykassim2839]

There is a lot not muay thai about that 'muay thai' fighter. His kicks are very tkd and his form is very karate. He manages to drop a golden Tony Jaa stance, but that's it.

[@BurridgeMartialArts604]

Yeah it seems to be super stylized around the Muay Boran style and the Elephant Style that Tony Jaa developed for the Protector movie

[@patrickrobie1592]

yes ive been wanting to see this i forgot about it honestly

[@omegagilgamesh]

Dude, it's Asian Madds Mickelson! PS: "I think the most Muy Thai thing about this guy is his tattoos." LMAO!

[@coolbule1238]

Thank God I'm not the only who realized. Fuckin gold. Dude is no way near the same ethnicity but looking similar lol

[@oneandonlyoni-2816]

Id like to see you react to fighter in the wind fights some of them are entertaining but its depends on the taste id say

[@1886jesusfreak]

As they walk away the song damn it feels good to be a gangster should play lol

[@Aero5000]

As already said, it all depends on the practioner... but for a master like Ip Man, getting in close might be a huge mistake, as intermediate and advance levels in Wing Chun are all about contact, in-close fighting, precision and control.

[@jacobmosovich]

I think id disagree wing chun is a layered fighting style. You fight at length first then close the distance. Its how you test your opponent. This fighter chose to get him in close proximity without testing. It was a wager in a way wreckless agressive and effective. He underestimated IP mans adaptability however and by the time they exited the elavator there was no reset to test each other only a desire to out this to an end quickly.

[@Aero5000]

Yes, Wing Chun is a medium and close range style (with a heavy focus on that close range). My point is that to think if a Muy Thai guy can simply just clinch a Wing Chun practioner and automatically the fight is over is a underestimation of Wing Chun. The last thing you wanna do against a Wing Chun guy is get close and give him contact, as if he has no defense against this or would let it get to that point (depending on his skill). By the time you get to Form 2 (Chum Kiu)... which should be within your 1st year, is where you really start your Chi Sau training and close in fighting techniques that focus on sensitivity, trapping your opponent and shutting down his defense and offense. Folks with more training can probably explain it better, but for people to think it's a good idea to get that close to Wing Chun guys would be a mistake. Close range fighting is basically the bread and butter of Wing Chun. They are trained to attack and defend at this range from quite early on.

[@tonygallagher6989]

@@Aero5000 Close range is definitely the focus. Kung Fu Tea published a lot on the actual history of Wing Chun, rather than the creation myth, and there are reasons why it works the way it does. I did it for six years, and fought artists from other styles, and that's where the necessity of having learned biu jee becomes clear. It's where you also learn how to make it work for you. The way Donnie Yen fights in these films, he includes a lot of kicks and elbows, which are strangely absent from the training in many schools. They absolutely need to be focused on more though. The armchair warriors seem to think it's all chain punching, and I have to say that the way some schools train is not far from that.

[@abcvincent1]

i agree to most of the points, though i also understand why the mu thai guy wanted to gain some distance, wing chun strongest advantage is fighting as near as he can, cause this the core of wing chun. so mu that actually needed more distance than wing chun

[@hanglihour7386]

Not just Muy Thai has that style of fight but Khmer Martial Art also has that kind fight Called Bokator or try to watch the movie called Jail Break from Cambodia

[@Muanh]

It's a common misconception that Wing Tsun is not strong in knee and elbow distance. It actually is and has elbow techniques on par with Muay Thai.

[@Pisces8Gemini]

Wing Chun is the king of close combat Muay Thai guy was feeling so much pressure inside he tried going to distance kicks/ knees. Usually the closer a Wing Chun user is the more dangerous position you are in

[@saori6402]

Oh btw.. For Ip man's wife..It is her first time to see her husband in rage and anger state.. That why this scene so lit..

[@LNG_3]

You gotta do the IP man vs 10 black belt reaction too.

[@OrangHuluBanaT09]

Ip Man Ranjauki Butoroo Kaninne Mabushonekeii Worro sutoo pa dia neii

[@johnsuggs7828]

In order to clench, you have to be able to get your hands on the opponent.

[@kenwong258]

Have you done ip man vs twister ? Great fight too in my opinion

[@joshp8785]

Wing Chun is extremely difficult for someone who’s never done martial arts

[@Eavyn17]

Definitely look into Tony Jaa and his movies amazing Muay Thai fighter

[@ジョジョさま]

I've used teep when close enough to clinch. It's possible.

[@TheSuperhoden]

Catching kick under the leg is easy. Step in the direction the kick is going so its going past the point the kici is most effective so you dont break ribs and then catch it. Tho catching it has dangers too. I kick a lot and am prepared for a catch. I either jump forward and elbow your face and then clinch or do a 360 jumping backheel kick with my still free leg. That kick wont mis. Its easy to aim and you still hold my other leg.

[@lemanlie2356]

Amazing skill👍👍

[@scottreacher4620]

It amazes me how much punished these fighters take with the hits and kicks. Me? I stub my toe and I'm down for a week. 😜