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[@neloysinha8098]

Most people wouldn't know Muay Thai if not for Tony Jaa and Ong Bak..dude's a legend

[@ashleycorker2620]

If your a fan of muay Thai I highly suggest you watch samart Payakaroon if you've haven't before the man is a true legend in the muay thai world

[@madnessbydesignVria]

Tony's films are shot so well, they really demonstrate his ability. Long shots that really sell the action, rather than quick cuts to make someone 'look good'. Good stuff! :)

[@Tgkjj]

3 influences for me when it came to being aware of muay Thai which are true crime 2, Bruce from Tekken and Tony JAA

[@jerricvelasco976]

What about buakaw guys

[@jesraelbalajo7787]

Buakaw..is legend

[@mugtiles]

It's sad that Tony Jaa doesn't get much credit like he used to.

[@chrishubbard64]

Seriously, that dude could do some brutal looking battles. In a more just world he would have his own super popular niche like, jackie chan and his crazy stunts and desperate scramble, where nobody does it like them and they have a huge following.

[@lampad4549]

Cause he hasn't made any good movies lately.

[@lampad4549]

@@chrishubbard64 he does have a super popular niche, what bubble are you stuck in? And how is jackie chan a super popular niche? He is an international super star. Wait a minute? What is a super popular niche that's an oxymoronic statement.

[@Angelo-dp1zt]

Muhammad ali and bruce lee make some mistakes to. They al humans its normal

[@gandalainsley6467]

@@chrishubbard64 Jackie Chan was one of the most popular actors in the 90s and early 2000s because of his stunts and fight scenes that "he did them all himself" (he didn't do all of his fight scenes or stunts himself ). Tony Jaa's biggest problem was that he had maybe 3 good movies with him being in a leading role . He is similar in that way to Steven Seagal .

[@damienthetexasian6827]

To Tony Jaa's defense, those are Muay Boran punches, not Western Boxing. Muay Boran kinda became Muay Thai after the introduction of Western Boxing from the Phillipines where they added boxing gloves to increase safety. The influence of Western boxing raised the stance from a low stance to high stance, changed punches, and added rules to standardize the Sport of Muay Thai from of the art of Muay Boran.

[@BrandonTLuong]

not sure about the Philippines part but definitely agree on the rest of the history.

[@damienthetexasian6827]

@@BrandonTLuong from what I know, Americans introduced boxing to the Philippines in the early 1900s and was legalized in 1921. It was during this time of the reign of King Rama VII(1920-1930) that he hosted many Phillipine boxing matches and used that to standardize Muay Thai.

[@redbloody946]

@@damienthetexasian6827 according from wiki there's no mention of King rama VII hosting many Philippines boxing match Because it was the British boxing not Philippines, Rama VII at the time only support national sport that is muay thai, And boxing gloves is influenced by the British boxing not "Philippines boxing"

[@damienthetexasian6827]

@@redbloody946 i hear ya. I questioned it also when both my Thai coaches told me. I too had never heard the Phillipino boxing connection. No reason these both can't be true.

[@michelvanderlinden8363]

Its kind of the same with Karate, where most karate schools teach karate that falls under "tournament rules", so a lot of the actual techniques are slowly being forgotten except for their places of origin. I dont know enough about Muay Thai to correct her on the "different levels of Muay Thai to master? I don't know what he's talking about", but I feel that there's definitely somewhat of a rank system of sorts, much like other martial arts having ranks.

[@MysticalKungFuVideo]

Tony Jaa's Muay Thai skills are not only showcased excellently in movies, but he is also a well-trained martial artist with a strong foundation in Muay Thai. Apart from his performances on screen, he has participated in various martial arts competitions and demonstrations, demonstrating his genuine expertise in the field of Muay Thai

[@Nimno74]

Tony Jaa teeped to the face in that scene to return the disrespect the other guy had shown just before (Flipping him off, saying "f*ck muay thai"). Touching the face with a foot is considered disrespectful in traditional Thai culture.

[@edi9892]

Thanks for pointing this out. BTW, I've heard that Indians hate to touch Harij and thus would try to fight relying only on kicks.

[@JuniorJuni070]

Push kick Steep kick But in dutch kick boxing its the front kick And its my favorite kick lol Its easy and fast

[@robertagu5533]

But it's ALSO a great kick to hurt someone. An return insult to insult

[@brandontankersley8107]

The low stance she pointed out also took place just after the face kick. The camera was looking up from the point of view of the downed opponent. It was a flex on Tony's part to show Big Bear he was in control.

[@bikdigdaddy]

@@edi9892 what is Harij?

[@gabiloglus1162]

Tony Jaa is a legend. Most of his moves are real. Choreography is based on the real Muay Boran style. It is not the sport Muay Tai Boxing. It is street Muay Tai

[@RealNotallGaming]

is not street fight! is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king enemy try to cut elephant foot so the king had a potential death just from falling elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN 1 hit = disable\kill the enemy only elbow, clinch and knee

[@gabiloglus1162]

@@RealNotallGaming i know ser. Thanks for info))

[@michelrood2966]

* THAI*

[@dotsfrazer]

What's Tai

[@michelrood2966]

@@dotsfrazer The professor above means *Thai *

[@McPuffins88]

So I grew up in Thailand doing Muay Chaiya, a southern Muay Boran style. I believe the tiger knee is a reference to a specific low stance where you're almost in a lunged position, back knee almost touching the ground. The idea is to bait a mid-low kick and transition into a sweep or strike. I think the stance translates to "tiger drags its tail". It's possible to do a knee strike from that position, but takes a great deal of athleticism, energy, and wind-up that's generally not practical and thus not expected - but a great deal of power if delivered. Maybe the anime just wanted a signature move and formulated the name "tiger knee", but it's possible this is a reference to a tiger stance into an improbable knee strike that distills the idea that only someone with top tier athleticism and experience could do.

[@camendiv]

Now you have me thinking about Sagat, both the street fighter character and the actual fighter.

[@AndarilhoMarco]

You nailed it. If I recall it right, that is more or less the animation for tiger knee in Street Fighter 2, he lowers the stance before throwing the knee. Also in-story Sagat is supposed to be super powerful physically, so much so Ryu has to learn magic to defeat him.

[@WutipongWongsakuldej]

My guess is ... at the time the game is developed, muay Thai is less well known. The developer kinda make up the name of all of his move. And in this case of Sagat, all of his move has the word "tiger" on its name. We are talking about game (and this anime adaptation) that has yoga practioner able to stretch their limps, float in the air, and even breath fire. No one is expecting realism I guess.

[@MusMasi]

lol i remember beating all my friends with sagat just spaming things like TIGER KNEE!!!

[@weilam03]

@@WutipongWongsakuldej when street fighter came out the Japanese already knrw about how effective muay thai was. thats why they made their nemesis Sagat. most people dont even know who Sagat is nowadays. the Japanese karate fighters knew how tough old school muay thai fighters were.

[@adamjamison698]

Here is another fact about Tony Jaa. Tony did fight as a Muay Thai Fighter. His record was 5-0. He decided to pursue movies because of the art of Muay Thai and Muay Boran for his country rather than just fighting against people. Tony Jaa's form is 10/10 for the movie Ong Bak.

[@ขนมจีนซาลาเปา]

มีตอนนึงผู้ชายแก่ๆที่ขายของบอกท่าตอนทิ้งโจมตีชื่อท่า"หนุมานข้ามลงกา"คลาชสิค

[@mhattjeremie9883]

And he earned more in movies

[@SlayerofFiction]

Are you seriously comparing someone with 5 fights (were they even pro?) vs someone who's an 8 time world champion? I think it's a bit telling you clowns actually think a movie is real, hint it's not.

[@giacomogotta2253]

And he could save more elephants that way

[@tchoythao1730]

@@SlayerofFictiondon’t forget, he’s actually Thai. Means he grew up with it as his national sport. Course he’s no champion, but the art is in his blood as his birth right.

[@georgieman1910]

FYI Tony Jaa is displaying classical Muay Boran guard stance which is more angular and more protective than sport Muay Thai's 11 guard. The Muay Boran techniques displayed here from Ong Bak all have traditional poetic names influenced by the epic myth of Ramakien which is based on the Hindu Ramayana. The teep to the face is "Bata Loopak" or "Foot Touches Face" which is also a sign of disrespect toward an opponent. The second one where Tony jumps over Big Bear's kicking leg and knees him in the face is "Hanuman Kham Longka" or "Monkey King Crosses the city of Lanka". The late Grandmaster Sidyodtong actually makes a cameo here and utters the technique out loud. Lastly, the jumping double knee and double elbow is called "Chuey Khang" or "Chuck the Chin" movement. Also "Kickboxer" is an iconic JCVD movie, but really deserves a 2/10 instead of a 4 for a lot of inaccuracies. I doubt the general audience would not be too keen on them but a seasoned person already in the know about Muay Thai would definitely have a field day. For one, old style boxers do not dip their kaad chuek or hand rope wrappings in giant chunks of broken glass but finely ground bits for the abrasion. To name some others, there's a scene where Van Damme is training against a hard palm tree not a banana tree which boxers actually use in lieu of a heavy bag. Banana trees have a fleshy plant-like stem, not wood. This makes them suitable for hitting without damage to the shins. And lastly, except for a few scenes, Van Damme is mostly throwing karate-style kicks throughout the entire movie when he's supposed to be using Thai-style kicks.

[@davidkymdell452]

Yup.....most people watching this sort of stuff would have seen Buakaw murder that poor banana tree by now lol

[@Katcom111]

His style is Muay Surin. Look it up and it's already been documented by Antonio Graceffo

[@georgieman1910]

@@Katcom111 Yea he coined it "muay Surin" because that's the name of the place where Jaa is from. But it's a little akin to saying "muay Bangkok" if it came from Bangkok. Through and through it's just muay Boran that Jaa is practicing and displaying. Historically speaking "muay Boran" comes from the same roots as other systems like pradal Serey and lethwei and is the umbrella term to cover all of the major regional flavors of Korat, Chaiya. Lopburi and Thasao. You can even throw Krabi Krabong into there as it is a type of muay Boran. In Tony's second movie, however, he came up with "muay Kotchasarn" or Elephant Boxing style which was brilliantly portrayed and totally fictitious lol.

[@almyman]

If the mora thai stance is more protective, why doesn't thai fighters that won world championships use it?

[@dankpepe2110]

Yup. As far as I know, Van Damme is a practitioner of Karate.

[@2donuts273]

In ancient times, muay thai or muay boran was actually considered a kind of weapon in war specifically between Thailand and Burma. Soldiers that mastered in muay thai were assigned to protect each leg of King's elephant in the war zone, for close combat purpose. And yes! in those days, Kings or leaders battled each war on elephant-back.

[@Junweitrustnobody1403]

protect each leg of King's elephant, in what way?

[@i3oringdayz]

​@@Junweitrustnobody1403At war if you have to take down an elephant with just swords and spears, you'd have to target it's legs, hence a soldier for each legs protection. Similar to infantry supporting tanks in urban combat situation in modern doctrine.

[@Junweitrustnobody1403]

@@i3oringdayz ah right right like how halberd or other polearm is useful against horsemen. Is there historical drawings of elephant's legs been covered? I'm very curious

[@i3oringdayz]

@@Junweitrustnobody1403 Google image this word "จตุลังคบาท" or "Chatulangkhabat", unfortunately not too much info in English but plenty of pictures thought.

[@mksyazwan815]

All Asian martial art was use in war

[@karloantonio1287]

Tony Jaa popularized Muay Thai and Muay Boran through his films.

[@harryharrison362]

so he is the bruce lee for muay thai?

[@dickensdickala6601]

absolutely true, whenever I see muay thai fight I remember ong bak

[@prointernetuser]

@@harryharrison362 I am not aware of him attaching any philosophy to his martial arts. Not in public, anyway.

[@zer08927]

I agree. I started practicing Muay Thai after going through a bad breakup in 2004, where we watched Ong Bak (her recommendation) in Theaters. Of course, the guns I was checking out made it very clear that it was Muay Boran in the film. Still practicing to this day and started mixing in more of the Dutch style.

[@DjTableManners]

Before tony Yaa it was the JCVD movies Kickboxer and Bloodsport that popularized the sport. I mean, everybody wanted to be Tong Po back in the days kicking concrete beams.

[@maprangrr5144]

I'm thai, I didn't know there would be so many people interested in Muay Thai. I'm so glad! thank you for this video!

[@phabove7]

We grew up watching ong bak and tom yum goong. You would be surprised to know how many 90s kid in India know Tony Jaa.

[@almor2445]

Muay Thai is probably the most useful, practical martial art there is. Combined with Brazilian Jiu-jistu or Western Wrestling it's perfect. It's also the most entertaining fighting style to watch. You guys have an amazing culture. :)

[@deylack]

@@almor2445yea it’s literally boxing with kicking ( and knees and elbows) super useful. GOAT martial art

[@danilogouvea]

Years ago, I had the chance of attending a Muay Thai event in Bangkok. Seeing the fighters perform the Wai Khru before the fight was simply beautiful. And those kicks they were throwing at each other during the fight were vicious: they looked (and sounded) like they could kill you on the spot.

[@qwanathomas735]

Yeah it's better not to even consider messing around with Muay Thai on their native ground, your asking to get murdered if you do.

[@justascaredgreycat1869]

Muay Thai is considered as a weapon in Thailand btw. If you are a fighter or practice it and use it to kill or hurt someone that can be considered as weapon.

[@Kage342]

There is a reason why the average retirement age for Muay Thai boxers is 25.

[@RovalisGTO]

If one of those kicks land in a vital spot it probably could.

[@rook3364]

@@RovalisGTO a regular person would be in the emergency hospital my Asian friend almost killed two dudes in high school, he defended himself against those wannabe bullies, I knew it was Muay Thai because I watched tony jaa movies

[@_theporkchopexpress]

The og Ong Bak still has to be the best martial arts film in history….and that comes with NO disrespect to Bruce Lee who is the GOAT without question

[@youngjayo6881]

Over The Raid?

[@jy9174]

@@youngjayo6881 bruh the raid 1&2 is soooo damn elite

[@StoutProper]

Both top notch. Bruce Lee would have been proud of the results of his legacy

[@Revenant-BotsOfDeath]

Ip man ong bak the protector lol

[@williamswiniuch7527]

Came here to say raid

[@adrianwaterman133]

I love how she reflected the respect due to their ceremonial practices...can tell she really honours the sport

[@morelenmir]

Yeah, I noticed that as well and I think she spoke really well about it.

[@LuisRios-bf9vn]

She left her boyfriend because he lost a fight

[@morelenmir]

@@LuisRios-bf9vn Really? Sound unlikely!

[@LuisRios-bf9vn]

@@morelenmir look her up on the Joe Rogan podcast and you will also find more videos of it. It's really sad how she think of man

[@zeuxlaught2797]

@@LuisRios-bf9vn no, i looked it up and it wasn't for that reason.

[@pogchampryder3313]

Funfact : Muay Boran is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king when enemy try to cut elephant foot.. 4 elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword. when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN There are many dangerous techniques such as breaking joints, and takedown.

[@FlyingTigersKMT]

Tony Jaa does Muay Boran, which is the ancient combat martial arts used in battle which was then sporterized into modern Muay Thai. There is some correlation but there will be lots of moves in Boran not used in Muay Thai. My friend is an instructor in Muay Boran. He taught me the differences and a few unique techniques.

[@eliseoreyes1858]

Your wrong tony jaa does all the styles of. Muay thai....every movie he ever made shows a diffrent style of muay thai

[@charleslxiong]

@@eliseoreyes1858 No you're half right half wrong lol.. I'm sure Tony Jaa knows Muay Thai, but in Movies he mostly uses Muay Boran. It's more flashy and cooler for movies. I don't see any moves like Samart or Saechai in movies.. Unless you're trying to accurately portray Muay Thai. In Tony Jaa movies its probably like 70% Muay Boran and 30% Muay Thai.

[@FlyingTigersKMT]

@@eliseoreyes1858 so... where did muay thai come from if not from the original martial art... and even she says it's Boran in the analysis... are you one of those people that just has to say something even if it's wrong?

[@eliseoreyes1858]

@@FlyingTigersKMT yee yee exactly right hit it right on the money

[@FlyingTigersKMT]

@@eliseoreyes1858 lol bravo

[@anishtandukar8888]

Tony Jaa was 10/10 back those days

[@va4kobabanata806]

Tony Jaa is literally a legend in movies. He does his own stunts and choreography. He is very skilled and trained very well so he can prolly do al the stunts he does in movies in real life. And he really knows what's he doing, so he must be rated much more.

[@dingodyno9016]

When i first saw Ong Bak he was the one to inspire me to do Muay Thai along with real life Sagat which the Street Fighter character is based on

[@David24025]

Yeah he is literally the guy and don't even know who the woman is talking about 😂🤣

[@joshwoodburn5249]

That’s why I couldn’t believe Paul walker going toe to toe with him 😂😂😂 I know it’s a movie but dam

[@SlayerofFiction]

He's an ACTOR who ENTERTAINS people. Turn off the movies, this is embarrassing.

[@wruzzer]

@@SlayerofFiction he is not only an actor, but also trained in martial arts. sure, he probably wouldn't win a championship, but saying he is just an actor is disrespectful.

[@CrystalMooGamingChannel]

There is also a kick called "Crocodile tail strike" (จระเข้ฟาดหาง) in Muay Thai as well. And that scene that Tony Jaa "teep" the opponent face is called "Feet Rub Face" move (บาทาลูบพักตร์)

[@laterreurrouge1917]

A kick with the sole of the foot to the face is considered a severe offense. You do this on purpose to insult your opponent. The logic behind it: in Thai culture the head is view as the vessel of one's soul, the foot - touching the ground - is dirty. So, trying to run dirt onto one's soul is disrespectful.

[@johnjones9065]

Well I'll call it Deez nuts

[@renemartinez3451]

7:39 "I've never heard of a Tiger Knee. It's just a knee buddy." Sagat is over 7 feet tall with a knee the size of most people's torso. That and having the ability to kick through boulders qualify it as a Tiger Knee lol

[@UmzGames]

Thank you. I was shocked she'd never heard of a Tiger Knee. Paused the video and went to the comments lol. Absolutely shocked.

[@mhm1767]

@@UmzGames As far as my brief research goes, the tiger knee only exists in Street Fighter, so… as assumed the two decade professional is correct.

[@UmzGames]

@@mhm1767 obviously, the humour missed you. Street Fighter first released in 1987, Sagat and his Tiger Knee since 91- 3 decades, to her 2. Thank you kindly. Being that she was busy training to be champion instead of playing games, like Umz Games obviously was, it's that shocking, it's humour lol

[@PKAmedia]

Really nice straight forward breakdown, by someone who obviously knows their stuff. Always good to hear a professional at the top of their game just talking shop.

[@AliceRinGameLand]

She's talking sport. Martial arts wasn't a sport, we made it into a sport

[@iseptimus]

She doesn’t. Know one who knows MA or kinetics would say a kick starts from the opposite side. It’s natural resistance from a hard body, I.e. the ground

[@tetrafoot]

I remember when I first saw Ong Bak, in 2004 (I guess, idk exactly), It was absolutely insane, like nothing I've seen before, I knew nothing about it and it had that "'jaw dropping" effect on me... in fact, even nowadays I don't think there's something better out there in terms of "fighting movies", he really set a new standard.

[@sergiojuanmembiela6223]

What I liked more than the fights was that the protagonist was actively trying to avoid fighting. Got tired of those films where the protagonist is a "pacifist" who, at the first inconvenience, just stands defiantly, waiting for someone to provoke him into a "justified" fight. It was "hey! this guy actually acts as if he did not want to fight!". The persecutions were cool, too.

[@zaynes5094]

@@sergiojuanmembiela6223 True. Jet Li when I saw him in Kiss of The Dragon and then later on Romeo Must Die, he was insanely fast and very grounded. It was a lot more realistic fighting than I had seen from Jet before that. Onk-Bak 2 is also great. I love Tony Jaa's story as well. As soon as his fame was growing, he retired from movies, was gone for years, then came back and started doing films again.

[@IcyFlare]

Thanks for the breakdown. Awe-inspiring to see that you persevered in Muay Thai for so long and becoming a seasoned World Champion.

[@mpaung]

Jony Jaa really popularized Muay Thai on the world stage. I would watch his fight scenes a dozen times and had no idea what type of fighting art he used but later learned it was Muay Thai. A legend!

[@clairemadeinheaven]

Jony Jaa is a dope name

[@db-hj9cu]

You millennials funny

[@mpaung]

@@db-hj9cu That's funny, man.

[@bigjay24910]

It’s always been popular in Europe. There’s Muay Thai events every weekend, it’s only just really becoming popular in the USA now. One championship just did an American prime time show so hopefully it’ll gain the popularity it deserves.

[@modzomzommod8088]

Is muay boran kinda muay thai but use for war in ancien time

[@wauzers]

My friend broke his arm blocking a Muay Thai round kick without thinking during training and the kick was only thrown at half power. Oh the memories lol.

[@cheesypuffs1342]

so are people just not supposed to block & take it to the face?

[@wauzers]

@@cheesypuffs1342 Use cover or shield your head with your arms, very similiar to western boxing to soften the blow and protect the head. Usually round kicks have less power to the head than kicks to the body and legs, or just evade the kick all together if possible. Lol

[@wauzers]

I forgot to mention you can shield and cover at the same time if your not sure where the kick is going to land.

[@zer08927]

Ouch

[@JEDINITE30]

That was one of my gripes about the scene with Tony Jaa and Paul Walker. In close quarters, covering with your forearm is better than getting kicked in the head. Her critiques strictly comes from Muay Thai in the ring with a lot of space.

[@reksgavriel5351]

I'm from Philippines and I am not familiar with Muay Thai until I meet Tonay Jaa in Ongback. He's really a legend.

[@RandalReid]

You met Tony Jaa in Ong-Bak? Nice. How did the meeting went?

[@reksgavriel5351]

@@RandalReid I mean I meet him in his movie and in hollywood. He's truly amazing.

[@RandalReid]

@@reksgavriel5351 You met him in Hollywood? Cool.

[@abrenvillanueva8623]

Napanood kasi, hindi nameet.

[@yek636]

"This kick is awesome I need to learn that" "I have to rate this high because it's Tony Jaa" I LOVE it when the expert loves what they do.

[@dungeonsanddobbers2683]

"I have to rate this high because it's Tony Jaa" Based on this statement and her criticisms of Jaa's technique, I get the impression she probably wanted to rate it lower but knew the comments section would come after her

[@peter-radiantpipes2800]

I was in Muay Thai for 15 years or so. We used shinai swords to condition our shins a lot. I’d forgotten about a lot of little things. Fun to watch. Like curling the hand in when she shows elbows… broke my back and had to stop. The skip kick was a favorite of mine.

[@VeraxMusic]

Is your back ok now?

[@TattooedGQ]

we used rattan escrimas.....fun times! ah the good ol days.

[@dotsfrazer]

What was the name of the gym I wa t to find out who is doing that to people's shins

[@peter-radiantpipes2800]

@@VeraxMusic not really. Kinda changed my life. I spent my 30’s at home. Still in pain every day but I’m moving around and stuff. So it got better after 10 years of not changing. It sucks but I’m grateful it’s better than it was now. Thanks for asking.

[@peter-radiantpipes2800]

@@dotsfrazer no gym. Where we did the first several years closed down years ago now. We did it to ourselves. My brother and I. Lol. I’d never have done that to any students. That’s just about the dumbest thing anyone could do in the states. Lol

[@franklinegbuche7097]

*I love how she doesn't try to discredit them so much and constantly uses "Not like anything I have seen before".* *That's a good strategic disclaimer.*

[@JpnhAbou]

"I'm just here for that outfit" -- said every Power Rangers actor and every Power Rangers fan in the entire 30 year history of Power Rangers!

[@koopspook]

One of the power rangers even killed a dude in real life, with a sword!

[@KrypptikkSoulslayer]

@J L Go, go Power Rangers…

[@Dark_Mishra]

With how cheesy Power Rangers have always been, I’m surprised they even considered showing a fight from it. Even in the fight shown, she probably wasn’t even intentionally trying to do a Muay Thai move. Lol

[@antman9259]

@J L I'm still scratching my head into why they're even including this. It's been a min but I could've sworn this season was Kung Fu Based lol

[@noir.kid9724]

@@antman9259 You're not wrong but he was a moron it was a "Muay Thai" fighter While everyone else did Kung Fu even in the Japanese version. (which is very funny) when he transforms he puts on traditional muay thai uniform (then through the magic of special effects) that becomes his costume. Look up geki-violet.

[@midnitest0rm]

I always find differences between martial arts fascinating. Like how she said in Muay Thai, you shouldn’t point your toes when kicking. I took karate for 10 years and we ALWAYS pointed our toes. Because in karate, you kick with your foot rather than your shin, and kicking without curling or pointing your toes can cause you to break them. Just found that interesting.

[@Alba_Longa]

Some of Thai words in this video Teep = ถีบ = Using the flat of your feet to punt something. Same word is used for when you ride a bicycle Boran = โบราณ = Ancient/old. Muay Boran basically just means old style boxing Mongkhon = มงคล = A headgear, there are a lots of tradition and ritualistic aspect to muay thai and this part of them. Interstingly มงคล also mean auspicious in normal day-to-day usage. Wai Khru = ไหว้ครู = Traditional ritual of venerating your teacher/school before the match. ไหว้ is a thai version of indian greeting. ครู/Khru means teacher, cognate with of the word Guru. Rum muay = รำมวย = literally means boxing dance Not an expert on the field so forgive me if I get something wrong.

[@Katcom111]

Some of the words like Boran and Rum/Rom are derived from the Old Khmer words

[@RB-fp8hn]

@@Katcom111 Going even further, from Sanskrit. Like Khru --> Guru, and Boran --> Puran (same meaning: old).

[@mickbotcast]

@@RB-fp8hn Yes Thai inherited a lot from Indian and Buddhism, the king who developed Thai alphabet base most of them from Sanskrit

[@toddellner5283]

There's just something so efficient and purely destructive about good Muay Thai. Loved this. Loved her analysis

[@last7509]

always been my favorite martial art. in the early days of ufc kickboxers were cleaning house

[@edwardfletcher7790]

It's a truly brutal martial art. It's the antidote to the "rhythmic dancing" arts seen in many Chinese films....

[@toddellner5283]

@@edwardfletcher7790 And yet what distinguishes Thai boxers who are just average from the really good ones is command of rhythm, distance and timing. The thing that makes Buakaw so terrifying is the way he keeps his own timing and rhythm, moves it around like jazz, and makes the other guy conform to it.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

@@toddellner5283 Not really my point. I'm referring to the terrible Chinese Opera style arm waving crap. I think Muay Thai fighters are better simply because of the style & their absolute dedication to perfection.

[@toddellner5283]

@@edwardfletcher7790 Ah, that makes sense.

[@EarlSmith2469]

I trained Muay Thai for many years. She's spot on. I learned 6 different kicks outside of the Low Kick, Round Kick, Front Kick and Head kick. there is of course the Axe kick and I learned 6 other ones from 2 different masters who came to Master Toddy's school in Vegas from Master Green that are devastating and not legal in a professional fight, but you can do them on the street. She was spot on with everything she said. She reminds me of my wife who is also a Muay Thai fighter and Southpaw boxer. Excellent video!

[@IBFISHING813]

She is a champ

[@dannygahs]

Was that ronnie green? He and his son was my first coach if it is 🙏🏻

[@1zipper12]

Muay Thai aspect then yes but muay boran is an ancient fighting style

[@doriandd4648]

Van Damme comes from shotokan Karate. The reason why we “fold” the foot away from the shin during a roundhouse kick (she calls it pointing your toes) is simply to avoid a multiple fracture to your toes if the top of your toes hit your target (think his shoulder or elbow) when you hit. For example, imagine if Leon Edwards toes had hit Kumaru Usman instead of his shin. He would have broken his on toes on the spot and lost the fight. So some fighting styles sacrifice a bit of energy on that kick to remove the risk of breaking your toes. Unless you’re wearing shoes of course, then it’s ok. This lady’s hit by the way. And 23 years of fighting? How old is she?

[@angeloschneider4272]

In a competition you actually do not do that, you hit with the flat side of the foot, and have the toes like a Muay Thai fighter. In "a real fight" you flex the tows and hit with the toes (the ball of the foot behind the toes). Because that makes the target area smaller, especially when you want to hit a pressure point. And if you aim for the head: you easy hit behind the block, if there is a block.

According to wikipedia, about 45 at the time of the video

[@DemonZangetsu23]

The entire Final Fight in Ong Bak 2 is Tony Jaa's best work to date

[@Elthenar]

It's called a Tiger Knee because it's from a video game that entered production around 1988. Everything Sagat does is Tiger whatever, even the fireballs. It's his thing. Her head might have exploded if she saw a Tiger Uppercut.

[@BlackestEyes709]

Tiger shot Tiger knee Tiger uppercut Tiger rampage Can't believe Sagat got 0/10 XD Tiger Trash

[@puffolotti]

Didn't see that cartoon. Actually Tiger Knee from the videogame is... Like majority of special moves in Street fighter, the question is: if someone is given the power to break laws of physics and do it, can anyone defend against it? how would the woman in the video prepare for a fight with an opponent blessed by the gods with the tiger knee or tiger uppercut working exactly as they do in the videogame?

[@3Rayfire]

@@BlackestEyes709 Don't forget his signature super, Tiger Genocide. But if a 7'4" Thai Fighter wants to knee your chest in, he can call it whatever he wants.

[@bigjayabc]

Based off an actual muy Thai fighter from 70s to late 80s. He runs tiger muy Thai gym in Thai land

[@3Rayfire]

@@bigjayabc Sagat Petchyindee.

[@johnlemus7921]

He retired, became a monk, right when his career was taking off, then after a few years went back to making movies, only to find that the industry had changed to a more streaming focused environment. He was in Monster Hunter, which is way better than people give it credit. He also did Jiu Jitsu with Nicolas Cage. He is going to be in The Expendables 4 next year.

[@petemadrona2252]

Hope the man has the same comeback as Ke Huy Quan did. Tony's a legend.

[@hmkoh]

Should check out SPL II: A Time for Consequences / Killzone 2

[@TheSolarCobalt]

Monster Hunter was garbage. No doubt.

[@dxcSOUL]

Monster hunter was garbage that pleased no one lol. Didn't please martial arts movie enthusiasts or fans of the game.

[@justascaredgreycat1869]

As an an eleven yaers long true fan of MH. I want to reject but I can't, lmao. That movie is an absolute garbage and a disgrace to the whole of MH series.

[@tokujinsicura2190]

It was cool cool to see a breakdown from someone so passionate about the sport. Muy Thai is honestly beast 🔥💪🏾

[@iROChakri]

Muay boran (Tony used) has a low stance in order to defend take down. Muay boran came from battle fields. People only needed to strike, defend, and take down. Muay boran has many joint locks and take downs but 0 submission and ground fight. Why? Back in old wars, if you got thrown to the ground, you'd get stomped or ran over or stabbed with any objects then died. No need to do arm bar or other submission. (Even in real fight today, once you throw a person with Judo or Wrestling or whatsoever, you can very well smack the dude with a rock or any hard object, or stomp his head "IF" you aint afraid of lawsuits after for killing the person. No ground fighting needed to win a fight). Anyways thays why Tony's stance or Muay borna stance is low. Muay thai stance tosay is standing tall to strike fast and hard and also because it doesn't have take downs, so you don't need to lower your body for extra balance.

[@Katcom111]

There isn't any record that Muay Boran unarmed striking was used in warfare. Most likely swords, spears and pikes. When musket guns and cannons was introduced in the 15th century in southeast asia. It is no use to fight unarmed.

[@rinsonator1668]

​@@Katcom111 Muay is not the main fighting way but for when you lost your weapon or using along your weapon. And Battle in that time less warrior gain access to armor. Imagine fighting against warior that expert in his weapon and muay. You could be kicked or punch along the fight no need to use muay with bare hand. When you are too focus on weapon fighting and got lower kick as surprise then he gain advantage for sure. There are no rule in battlefield to use your weapon in hand and switch to Muay only when you lost weapon. The damage from kicke might not break your bone but your muscle will be damaged and that pain af. Once you can't keep moving you are dead meat in battlefield. That why they always said that design to take life in battlefield. Muay thai give you an advantage in fighting.

[@nom6758]

@@Katcom111 umm achshually *nerd emoji intensifies*

[@deefarhei3617]

yeah, she literally said that in the video.

[@hectorvergara3394]

As soon as I saw Miriam in the thumbnail for the video rating movie fight scenes I had to click and watch, good job on getting one of the most respectable Muay Thai fighters to rate videos for you, one of my idols lol

[@ripdajacker23]

Ong Bak and the Protector were so dope. Tony Jaa is legendary

[@Rascaduanok]

I love her indepth explanations, and also her reactions to the Van Damme film! 😂

[@boboboy8189]

VAN DAMME using karate style when he kick.

[@TheGreenHog]

So I’m guessing she didn’t watch Ong Bak, because she said she wouldn’t get that low, but Tony Ja only got that low on that occasion because his opponent was on the ground, so he closed in to check if the fight was over while maintaining a defensive stance

[@halsnate]

Exactly

[@jamariuswalker1712]

FACTS 💯

[@dentyph5169]

Bruh she is going on what she is shown.

[@TheGreenHog]

@@dentyph5169 I didn’t meant to diss her, I was just giving my input on that scene

[@firstname4337]

@@dentyph5169 they should watch the shows if they're going to comment on them -- its not like Ong Bak is not known

[@Ganiscol]

"Tenderizing the meat (with your knee)" - Oh my, I'm about to fall in love with this badass woman! 😄

[@shawntailor5485]

Yeah she got my heart with that one too .

[@kevwwong]

"So that was very, very, very realistic" "That, no. That's not Muay Thai." I couldn't help but laugh at that.

[@ridanann]

If you grab an arm and do it with the arm included you literally have a flying triangle choke I think a lot of Martial artists under estimate what is possible just because it is not optimal. a frankensteiner is a totally legitimate martial arts manoeuvre it's just not a very good one but if that is all the situation presents you with that's what you going to do I think a lot of the problem with martial artist is they don't fight in real-world circumstances play the fight for sport which is not real you don't have a referee in real life nobody there to break up the fight if it gets too bad work course they don't know what they're doing and they just train and I couldn't use it in a real situation anyway I have used manoeuvres nobody would ever told me to use simply because the opportunity presents itself martial arts can be very rigid for some reason optimisation you should take a back seat 2 opportunity plus if you grab somebody by the genitals and left you can easily get some really good fight because they don't know how to counter lifts and it's really funny.

[@ธรรมนูญแสงสว่าง-แบงค์]

When you see Tony Jaa in movies .It not muaythai style for sport. You heard her talk about "muaythai boran"(for kill in war) In thai have muaythai boran 5 style - muay chaiya(south) - muay lopburey(central region) - muay taa-saou(North) - muay korat (Northeast) - muay pa-la-sig-sa (capital) Tony Jaa uses muay korat style (his hometown) it has a wider range than other tyres. Well come to Thailand.

[@bankhothot-369]

wow

[@eastafrika728]

I studied the original Muay Thai, we had bamboo sticks in the gym for shin conditioning, as we advanced in training the aim was to one day break the bamboo with our shin, I accomplished not just that but the ability to kick metal, I have 5 wins from low kicks alone. Muay Thai is the perfect street Martial Art if the practitioner can use it well. I can transition easily to effective moves, that is what helped me win fights. If you try grabbing me you get a knee or an elbow. We even have an elbow done when an opponent grabs your wrist, you just tuck in the wrist while lifting the elbow over to the opponents head, or pull down your wrist, bringing the opponents head to a knee or spinning elbow. Today I am a referee with the kickboxing federation. Van Damme's kick in Blood Sport was a karate kick, he was doing a flick kick most of the time, which is an incomplete kick in Muay Thai, where your hip or pelvis has to be in the kick, it is a total transfer of bodyweight into the kick which can send you into a spin if you miss.

[@henryhoover3953]

What are the chances of winning with hard leg kicks in mma on the top professionals, Are people so conditioned that it wont affect them ?

[@Opsity]

@@henryhoover3953 Chances are very high if the athlete is smart enough with the leg kicks. Edson Barboza and Pat Barry have done it multiple times. In Jose Aldo vs Uriah Faber, Jose seriously messed up Uriah's legs

[@Skeptic_Tank]

Good. I like that she showed respect to tony JAA. That guy is actually a force to be reckoned with outside films

[@scouserboys2884]

สำหรับผมคนไทย ดีใจมากๆที่ต่างชาติให้ความสนใจมวยไทยขนาดนี้ และรู้จักวัฒนธรรมต่างๆของมวยไทยจริงๆ ขอบคุณที่คุณรักมวยไทย🙏🇹🇭

[@Comicsluvr]

Mad props to this lady for participating (and WINNING) in such a brutal sport for twenty years!

[@tristanbowman7098]

For those that don't know, Miriam is an absolute legend!

[@cyborgchicken3502]

She definitely is but the number of Ong Bak fanboys who are talking smack about her just because she criticized the realism in Ong Bak is ridiculous....there will always be these dummies who can't separate movies from reality when it comes to martial arts....it's the one thing where for some stupid reason the average Joe still believes that what they see on screen is real and then they'll get mad when an actual professional fighters tells them it's not

[@inmuyataz]

@@cyborgchicken3502 it's probably because I'm late but i haven't seen any butthurt fanboys, at least not here

[@muppet5760]

@@cyborgchicken3502 To be fair she is talking quite a bit of nonsense in this clip. I put it down to the different style of Muay Thai that is likely being taught in the US. One example is at 10:45 - 11:05, she says you don't do that, even though it is very common to see. In the video "Rodtang's Dangerous Muay Thai Style", you may see Rodtang (one of the best Muay Thai fighters in Thailand) perform this multiple times. Just after the 7 minute mark or at 11:22 are two examples. Guard down during a Muay Thai fight in front of a fighter at close (elbow) range, dishing out hooks. Ramon Dekkers is another fighter that very often did that. Again there is a video on yt: "The Very Best of Ramon Dekkers (Knockouts/Highlights) | Muay Thai" that shows him within the first minute do it multiple times. 0:25 through 0:32 for example. 0:30 to 0:32 also show him standing low in front of his opponent whilst finishing him, something she says you don't do in Muay Thai (standing low). Both of those fighter's footages (especially the 0:25 to 0:32 from Dekkers) are also contrary to what she says at 6:07. Odd that she doesn't remember this very common technique called "hook". The shown film footage of the hooks by Tony Jaa look rather like wild arm swings instead of a controlled hook, though. It is a movie after all.

[@cyborgchicken3502]

If you scroll down a bit further you'll see a few

[@cyborgchicken3502]

@@muppet5760 i see your point of view but I suppose in her case she's talking about it from her own experiences and her own style of fighting, every Muay Thai fighter has a different way of using the art in a professional fight, it doesn't mean she's talking nonsense though, mind you she both competed and trained in Thailand during her 14 fight run as a Muay Thai champ, so it's possible that whatever school she trained at didn't implement those techniques you mentioned, or perhaps she just didn't include them in her style of fighting, the fact that she won all 14 bouts in her career with no losses and has been training in Muay Thai for over 20 years is proof enough that she knows what she's talking about at least based on her own experiences, maybe she's wrong in saying that it's absolutely never used, you've just provided examples that there are cases of such techniques being used but I don't think it discredits her opinion and her experience in any way...she's got the fight record and skill to prove that she knows what she's talking about....also Tony Jaa isn't a professional fighter, he's an actor and has trained in Muay Boran which is the more ancient style of Muay Thai

[@parenthesisvlog8359]

Very impressive. As a Thai, to see foreigners has true knowledge in Muay Thai and Muay Boran more than average Thais and use the terms so correctly. Especially the comments! It's so different from Thai food videos, where most of the clip and comments usually go wrong.

[@s011dpineaple]

LOVE the fact that Muay Thai is getting the love that it deserve. Ong Bak is the GOAT!

[@Domisdom]

Yessss this was so insightful and badass. Totally here for this!

[@macilysis]

The reason why Muay Thai is so effective for fighting is because it was originally designed to take life in battle field in the past.

[@Mannistheorion]

Yes, but it's Muay Boran that is the original martial art for self-defense or lethal offense. Muay Thai is developed during the 1900s with regulations and restrictions to make the said martial art a viable competitive sport.

[@parsifal40]

any viable martial art is effective for fighting. boxing, kickboxing a few types of wrestling, bjj, certain types of karate, sambo, some parts of taekwondo, some parts of judo. thats why mma is a thing, i do agree tho if you're solely gonna learn one style muay thai is a great idea especially if u got a good gym

[@chazertronfivethousand4425]

I love the selection for this. I was not expecting Street Fighter and... Power Rangers. I loved that she still gave us knowledge even when it was something silly, instead of just being like 'that's wrong and dumb.'

[@redkommie80]

In most of these type vids I've seen (not many) the experts are good about it. Pretty sure they have some that do the "that just dumb" and not explain why. But mostly respected the experts they find.

[@antman9259]

Street Fighter was one thing but POWER RANGERS!!! Maaaannn come on, why include this lmao 🤣

[@EugWanker]

I guess I'm going to have to watch Raya. I liked the fight scene, but I didn't realize it was actually pretty accurate.

[@jamekinro2850]

You​ may​ not​ ​ because​ all​ you​ see​ in​ this​ video​ is​ all​ hand​ to​ hand​ combat in​ the​ movie

[@ty194]

It's not accurate. She just liked it because they were women.

[@EugWanker]

@@ty194 Well, she gave Tony Jaa a higher score. No women in that fight.

[@ty194]

@@EugWanker Yet still named Raya as her pick. Make that make sense.

[@terrencewalker1982]

As a Muay Thai fighter myself, i agree with most of what she is saying. Best advice to do is to not get into a fight with people, just try to avoid confrontation as much as possible.

[@PaladinHotshot]

Oh nooo!!! You didn't have any scenes from The Protector! That fight scene with Tony Jaa Vs Lateef Crowder was one of the BEST fights I've ever seen in a movie! Nooo! Run that back with The Protector! 😆

[@Froehlich07]

I have been training WT for 2 years and 5 years on and off of Krav Maga. We had a couple of Muay Thai trainers visit from Thailand before the covid thing and had a sparring session with them.. I have never, in those 7 years, have my wind knocked out of me on the level that he did when he got close to me.. I had a good hold until i got an elbow to my jaw and a kick to my ribs right after. Lets just say i sat down for a second.

[@mrx1333]

Thank you for your feedback on these movies! Love Tony Jaa and he was the influence for me to learn Thai. Only learned it for 1yr but would love to get back into it. And with that Fast/ Furious movie, I'm sorry but Paul Walker against Jaa wasn't that believable because Jaa would have taken him out in one or two hits!

[@nicholasenechukwu2838]

Paul was actually doing a lot of BJJ but yes, Jaa would take him out.

[@szcxp2166]

no he would't. Paul had the plot armor.

[@n0body550]

@@szcxp2166 Paul didn’t his character did.

[@antoniogriffin7135]

Exactly what me and my brother said😂😂😂🤗

[@gaberesendez6492]

it’s one of my old coaches from sityodtong! good man 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@krayzdang]

at 5:05, the low stance is mostly for defensive, and counter into legs' joints. It is also true that in Ong Bak they would change the stance to look cool

[@ejaudy8241]

Ummh... for anyone who just started learning muay thai, if you cannot go out of range of a headkick it's okay to block it with your arm. Pls don't let it land on your head. 😂

[@sterlingarcher7534]

I was waiting for that comment

[@StoutProper]

Upper arm is preferable to your lower arm surely? And using both arms? And ducking or pulling is always an option,

[@rudyleon7321]

i dont know if this is accurate because they dont really teach you to move in, but i step in with a high guard and attack with a upwards elbow .. i also like to step in and hook the planted foot with mine and pull

[@Joobkl]

Agree

[@davidkymdell452]

Agreed, the move is block with whole upper arm and shoulder to tbe broadside anyway, not shin on forearm.

[@theveryworstluck1894]

Every time I kick through my computer monitor, I do it WAY different.

[@notepm8338]

the way that Tony Ja hook the punch@06:00 is a punch technique from Mauy Korat (one of Mauy Boran) . It called " mud- kwang- kway" ( หมัดขว้างควาย). Love your video, krab.

[@notmus]

Ong Bak and warrior king is the best Muay Thai movies i ever seen, still haven't seen any other martial actor performing Muay Thai as good as Tony jaa, this guy is a legend.

[@vladimirvladimirovicmajako1221]

"It is absolutely effective to knee someone in the body." Yeah, I kinda of suspected that...

[@Ojw-92]

The original Muay Thai is a style that go for the kills which mostly aimed at critical part of the body like the head/neck or chest especially the heart. The Muay Thai have gone through a lot of changes to be accepted in the tournament fight to avoid serious injuries. All true Muay Thai fighters that was taught in Thailand would know the history of it. Kicking of the banana tree is one of the old training that was used in the past to stronger the bone. Some fighter in the past generation would break their bone during training to have much stronger and hard bone regrown over n over again. I know all this thanks to my mother who is a thai and have been taught by cousin.

[@JKribbit]

Very correct aboht kicking banana trees and breaking the bones part. Please check out Nai khanom tom. Hes our folklore hero that used muay boran to fight off invaders ;)

[@trakkaton]

The neck I get, but you're not allowed to aim for the head or the heart? What do you mean by that? Not MT?

[@L00N101]

​@@trakkaton I'm sure if you've looked up Muay Thai, it was never a sport but a form of combat. Like OP mentioned, true Muay Thai was meant to be lethal by nature: either straight up kill or incapacitate them. In combat SPORTS there are certain restrictions to striking the head. I believe true Muay Thai elbow strikes were intended to break the skull, which is clearly not permitted in a sporting capacity. In regards to the heart, if we can make a heart pump with enough force via CPR, it stands to reason you can make a heart stop with enough force and precision. As a lethal form of combat, head, neck and heart is the go to.

[@trakkaton]

@@L00N101 There are no succesful knock outs by hitting the sternum in MMA even though it's not forbidden. There are no elbows taht crack the skull in MMA even though elbows are not forbidden. Can you apply logic?

[@smylz4348]

@@trakkaton the moves are not meant to be one hit KO's, they're meant to be used multiple times to incapacitate the opponent.

[@Ningthouja871]

It's funny when people ratings Tony Jaa's skill and telling that's not supposed to , haven't seen that body lower step😂😂 Tony Jaa literally introduced Muay Thai to the world... every step is real for him and he act it himself he can do it even on live

[@enbo98]

Miriam is the best! Such a nice person, and legit as they come! It's a shame that some of her analysis surely had to get cut out because of time restraints.

[@angelocarantino4803]

I don't know she said some things that made me lose respect but she's one of the better ones on this channel

[@last7509]

i want to see her vs senchai

[@enbo98]

@@last7509 I'm sure she would agree that Saenchai would destroy her, with all due respect to her of course, but it's apples to oranges to begin with.

[@last7509]

@@enbo98 i still want to see it

[@pjruffin7191]

She's definitely not a nice person lmao.

[@NEOkenchan]

the Ong Bak fight stance was the Boran stance as she said... it's the precursor to Muay Thai. :) great video!

[@strlordx2198]

Tony Jaa is perfection. Bro has Muay Thai down to its core. Love his movies

[@thk_gvng420]

I'm Thai. I learn about Muay-Chaiya like Tony Ja used it's for Royal Guard in 400yrs ago . and My mom hometown in Chaiya,Surat than,Thailand and We have another MuayThai style like South stlye West Style .

[@XGamers]

The jean claude van Damme should have been rated higher imo. The time frame and setting would reflect more traditional training then what we see today. Sometimes the critiques are warranted, but there's little to no research outside of personal experience.

[@cyborgchicken3502]

Actually I'd disagree, if you actually research the film Kickboxer and actually pay attention to the type of training Van Dammes was doing in that film, he wasn't doing Muay Thai at all, he was actually just doing Shotokon Karate because that's Van Dammes martial arts background, you can tell the difference in many of the movements he did in the film, just like she pointed out how he points his toes, only Shotokon karate and Taekwondo fighters do that because their aim is to hit you with the top of the foot and not the shin, when he was practicing the forms, he was doing karate Katas, you can tell by how he does only straight punches and pulls back his retreating fist to his hip....her critique is correct in my opinion because a real martial arts enthusiast would notice that in reality Van Dammes was literally just doing Shotokon Karate in Thailand....he didn't do any Muay Thai at all....fun fact none of the main Asian actors were Thai either, his "master" was actually an actor from Hong Kong who doesn't have any martial arts experience at all, his love interest was a Filipino model and the villain Tong Po was actually a black French Moroccan dude with yellow face on named Michel Qissi, who is actually a close friend of Van Dammes and starred in a few of his earlier films including Bloodsport, Lionheart and some others.....the whole movie is kinda fake....but that doesn't take away from the fact it's one of the best martial arts films ever made....but if you want authentic Muay Thai, I'd say Tony Jaa's movies are a lot closer to the real thing, especially the first Ong Bak movie

[@cyborgchicken3502]

Also I disagree about the time frame and setting that you mentioned, Kickboxer was set in the 80s, not in medieval times, those methods used in the movie may have fit in well with an ancient or medieval setting or maybe in the early 20th century in some rural South East Asian Village....but I'm pretty sure by the 80s martial arts training didn't involve dropping coconuts, kicking banana trees, and using ropes for splits....I'm pretty sure they were using heavy bags and other modern training equipment by that time especially in the professional Muay Thai world....I mean come on, just look up Sagat Petchyindee, the real life Sagat and how he trained back in the day, he was a Muay Thai champ in the 70s and 80s and all footage of him training is in a regular gym with modern gym equipment...same could be said for Don the Dragon Wilson and Billy Chow, who were both high level kickboxers that competed in the 80s...the only reason they went this ancient look with regards to the Training is because it's typical Hollywood ignorance and embellishment in trying to make a third world South East county look more exotic and mystic than it actually is in real life, they literally do that in every Hollywood produced martial arts film to this day....just look at freaking Shang Chi and the new Mulan...they over over exaggerate the Eastern Mysticism aspect all the time.

[@XGamers]

@@cyborgchicken3502 I'll agree to disagree with that. There are still some places now that do traditional martial arts training. Just because it was place in the 80's doesn't mean people were always training in gyms or using modern equipment. That would be very narrow minded to think so.

[@cyborgchicken3502]

@@XGamers okay fair enough...I'll give you that....but I think for her perspective she's talking about it in the context of being a professional fighter....at some point they do get access to modern training equipment, maybe not the best but something that could get the job done to prepare them for a fight in the ring, I don't think the methods used in the film would be the best for a pro fighter as they could also lead to serious injury....mind you the Kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters I mentioned weren't born into wealth...Sagat Petchyindee for example came from poverty and I can assure you probably had access to a rural gym with cheap low level equipment, but I doubt he was dropping coconuts on his stomach or kicking trees all the time....I think it could be as equally ignorant to assume that poor people would always resort to primitive methods of training...maybe in extremely rare cases yes, but even in the most poorest parts of the world you can still find training gyms with worn out heavy bags, weights etc. Just maybe not in the best condition....I'd say they'd at least have punching bags or sandbags and a few dumb bells, bar bells and other kinds of weights...maybe not like treadmills, or cryo chambers etc

[@cyborgchicken3502]

@@XGamers just one final thing I'd like to add to our discussion, it only crossed my mind now....you do have a very good point....I suppose there are some poorer areas where people really can't afford proper gym equipment....but my thing is, why would you waste time building these strange contraptions with logs and ropes when you can just use your own body weight to train? Or if you really do want to have weights, find some rocks or bricks, especially for the splits part....I fully agree with Miss Nakamoto there...why let some random person tie you up to what essentially looks like a medieval torture device to stretch your legs when you can easily just learn to do the splits on your own with either a partner pushing your legs apart like what they actually do in martial arts dojos, we did it in taekwondo, or simply use two pillows under your feet and slide your legs apart as far as they can go on a slippery floor?? Why drop a coconut on your stomach when you can get a training partner to throw light jabs and kicks while you tense up like in Kyokushin karate to condition your stomach? For stamina just for a run, for conditioning just lightly wrap your knuckles on a wall or do knuckle push ups?? See that's what I disagree with, all that stuff they did in the Van Damme movies was unnecessary, and you'll never find it in any traditional martial art training, I know because I come from a third world country and I did Taekwondo, we never did all this stuff we just did regular body weight and cardio exercises like pushups and running etc. And for conditioning we'd knock arms and shins together lightly....the only thing in Kickboxer that was probably accurate in terms of Van Dammes Training was him going for a run, and the banana tree kicking, because I have seen videos of that being done in Thailand before... everything else is just made up movie stuff, sorry to say dude, especially the stretching rack which looks more like it could seriously injure you than actually make you flexible

[@ronaldlee7566]

Tnx for reviewing this topic today. God bless and stay safe🙏

[@berner]

My first exposure to Muay Thai was Street Fighter 2. I didn't know what Sagat was fighting with but it's the closest thing I saw to Muay Thai. Then the next was Tekken 2 with Bruce Irving. I thought it looked pretty cool but again had no idea what it was. Then I saw it more in the UFC and over the course of a few years, I saw Ong Bak and so on and so forth and now I know what it is.

[@hmngvaj9723]

You probably already know but Street fighter Sagat is actually based off a real Muay Thai fighter. Sagat Petchyindee who was a monster in the ring.

[@berner]

@@hmngvaj9723 Actually I had no idea. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me :) Dhanyavaad!

[@jacobharris954]

@@hmngvaj9723 Just about to write that

[@bruceng9572]

i can totally see where she's coming from but i also understand the traditional fighting style from ong bak which i would say is as useful or wouldnt stray far from the modern techniques of muay thai. most modern style martial arts dont go high or uses a more simple techniques to fight because most fighters nowadays are restricted by their physicality. So yeah, i'd say i agree with her but also with Tony. XD

[@G1manime]

Thanks for sharing. I love breakdowns of fight scenes. I do it myself. Not to say I am any form of martial arts expert. But I like to watch, rewatch, slow down, and see what attacks are being used, reactions, figure out the move's intention and things that could have gone better. I never looked closely at Muay Thai. This was very educational for me. I draw comics and maybe one day, I'll have a Muay Thai fighter.

[@FUBARGunpla]

as someone whose fought in muay boran and muay thai for about the same amount of time she really knows her stuff and was a blast to watch, her points were fantastic.

[@TheTapedCrusader]

"lots of knee surgeries" makes me wonder if it's legal to get your knees straight up replaced. Are titanium knees considered performance-enhancing drugs or illegal weapons in Muay Thai?

[@klegdixal3529]

i'd venture if you've a prosthetic joint you don't want to risk any damage or injury. these things do not heal.

[@StoutProper]

They don’t make replacement knees out of titanium. This isn’t marvel

[@edi9892]

@@StoutProper it sounds possible. Titanium is used in small pieces of implants. It's very sturdy and lighter than steel.

[@MrWhiteVzla]

If you need a full knee replacement, your career is over. It doesn't matter if your knee is made of vibranium, you won't be able to fight at full strength ever again.

[@Manuelomar2001]

They won't make you perform better. The opposite. Joint replacements means learning to walk all over again, 1+ years of physical therapy and rehab just to regain former mobility. You would NOT want to fight if you have Titanium joints. Do you think it magically makes your legs indestructible? All those prosthetics are still attached to the rest of your legs and body, which are still made of flesh and blood. Banging on them would produce even more injury than before, injury that you would never heal from.

[@lavantorthecomedian2929]

Impressed with the concise commentary....

[@nutsandbolts1264]

The champion: "Conditioning youre shins is vital in Muai thai" The college stoner with a scooter since he was a kid: *I am invincible*

[@zaiah9252]

Oh snap, you were on the Joe Rogan Podcast show! Cool that you got your own video to do

[@jh1328]

“Standing…grappling.” She’s like, “These people will not understand the clinch.”

[@nunes9267]

I come from Thailand.I have ever seen. You are a foreigner a deepest understanding of Muay Thai that.

[@Sch0lar4h1re]

Champion Nakamoto is absolutely correct about shins vs forearm. Her truth also applies in Tae Kwon Do , you have a lot of roundhouses coming at you and you will destroy your forearms if you depend on them against mid level or high kicks .

[@chrishubbard64]

I mean, cant you condition your forearms like you can your shins? Or is it just that its not very useful outside of forearm blocks so there isnt really a reason to do it? I know in her style the shins are basically shield and sword so it makes sense to focus so much on them.

[@Sch0lar4h1re]

@@chrishubbard64 The shin bone is thicker and is much closer to the skin in the leg so that specific area hardens/toughens with repeated trauma over time. Practical utility demands that you will have to use your forearms from time to time , but the areas that are kicked will primarily do damage to the muscles surrounding the bone . Sure block with those areas when you need to, but don't make it a habit to counter/check a shin with your forearm a majority of the time.

[@Sch0lar4h1re]

Great questions BTW

[@last7509]

of course its more ideal to move out of the way. but in ufc, guys block roundhouse with their forearm on the daily. you can find 1000 videos right now

[@hearwho8438]

@@last7509 guys in MMA also don't kick as hard as nak muays. The MMA stance is generally wider too which makes checking harder

[@TennSeven]

"I'm not trying to be limping around with a messed up foot for the rest of that fight!" I love it.

[@pralayaryan]

8 TIMES world CHAMPION !!! damn girl u r a GODDESS !!

[@explorer1968]

It's highly valuable the wisdom and advise of an expert of the field!

[@veer66]

4:24 It sounds like psychological advice. "A teep is good if somebody keeps coming in on you and you want to get space."

[@luciddreamz1446]

I remember this lady. She was on Joe Rogan telling how it's disgusted her boyfriend lost a fight and she broke it off.

[@bahodirannaev4714]

Exactly, she is crazy

[@seekingcontent4337]

That's all I remember her for. Watching this was hard because of her comments and her delivery in this video reminded me of her attitude on Rogan.

[@m.g.6394]

She's a good fighter but a terrible woman to date. Stay away from women like this, they lose attraction easily and are dead insidw

[@888pil]

i scrolled the comments and they're all saying Tony Jaa does Boran so I assumed the expert didn't mention it. But she literally says in the video "I guess that's Boran" lol

[@Scratchandwin585]

Jumping in the air with his knees are real in a fight. My dad was there thru out many of his fights. Even fighters from all over the world went and lost and why no one wants to admit their lost to him is a shame

[@darkwar-sf3kw]

What you see in Muay Thai (sport, tv, movies) is half of its original form, the original Muay Thai (Muay thai Boran, well known in the west Tony Jaa) which is training for barehanded combat during the wars (swords and shields barehanded barefoot), It's training to kill.

[@99bimmer]

Regarding Bloodsport and it's inaccuracies: I'm pretty sure Frank Dux was the "techincal consultant" on that movie, since it was supposed to be about his life. Frank Dux was also a pathological liar and made the whole story up. He also said that he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor when he was in the Army in Vietnam, but in the picture of him wearing it, he's wearing the Air Force variant. When questioned about it, he said that they couldn't keep up with demand, so they had to give him that one in the meantime. Also, he was never in Vietnam

[@morelenmir]

Yep... Deeply disillusioned when all the insane bollocks that Dux invented came out. When you think back on what he claimed I am astonished anyone ever believed it--myself included! But.. It was Ninja stuff and it is impossible to say how cool ninja stuff was in the mid to late eighties. We actively _wanted_ to believe. I think that made all the difference. And then a Segal came along and did pretty much the same thing! Although I think those particular clips came from 'Kickboxer', which came out the year after 'Bloodsport'. But they were both JVD's biggest films, or at least they were what put him on the map.

[@99bimmer]

@@morelenmir It seemed like every evil businessman had his own island and ninja in the 80's. Why did that ever go out of fashion? If Jeffrey Epstein had ninjas on his island instead of children, he'd prolly be alive today

[@antman9259]

Not saying you're wrong but she's discussing Kickboxer not bloodsport lol

[@JosephKerr27]

I love how technical Miriam Nakamoto gets! Movies fights are more entertaining when approached intelligently. I can't stand sloppy fights.

[@guntertorfs6486]

She's a psychopath who broke up with her 'great' boyfriend ( her words ) because ' he shielded his head too much ' during a fight , but yeah , enjoy her ' technicality '. By all means.

[@dallenYT808]

Wow the ‘Queen of Mean’ Miriam Nakamoto. Awesome! If anyone knows Muay Thai she does.