Martin HAGN: Gun Making At Its Best

[@graemewhalen40]

I only learned last night of Mr. Hagn's passing. May I convey my sincere condolences for the loss of your friend. Thank you for introducing me and others to his craftsmanship and sharing your personal stories with us. My best wishes to you and your loved ones for this coming new year.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you and have a Merry Christmas and all the best for 2024!

[@janbastein7355]

The falling block double is outstanding!!!!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you - it is an incredible rifle.

[@lundysden6781]

your friend was a true metalsmith! Your stories are wonderful, in the end thats all we have!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Wise words. Thank you and Merry Christmas!

[@rickbattle5706]

Mike, I have watched this video several times. Those rifles are works of art. Very sorry Martin is no longer with us. He did incredible work. Hang in there and Merry Christmas to your and yours.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Rick - Amazing man and work; thanks for the note. Sheryl and I wish you and your family a happy, safe and peaceful Christmas and all the best for the New Year.

[@clintonjacques8133]

I had the pleasure of meeting Mr Hagn while sheep hunting. He lost his MSR tent coming down the mountain and I happened to find it. We had a coffee and visited a while afterwards. He was a gentleman.

[@richardadamson2983]

I have a Hagn I built on a medium action I bought from Ralf Martini at a gunshow in Reno years ago. Mr. Hagn was there and I met him...very nice man. I met him again in Reno a few years later and showed him the finished gun chambered in 7x57 Mauser. My finish work could not compare with his, but he was impressed with what I had done. Again, excellent character. The gun will do anything it needs to. I have killed a few pronghorn and mule deer with it. Now, if I can just draw a sheep tag we would make Martin proud!

[@frufru0071]

This couldn’t have been a very easy video to make, but at the same time, your friend Martin has left a legacy that should last far longer than any of us. In that respect, I am grateful to have seen this video and think you’ve created an admirable tribute to your talented friend. My thoughts are with you

[@joshuagibson2520]

I would never have otherwise gotten to see these beauty's or learn about the maker. Thank you from the Tennessee mountains.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for watching. You live in a beautiful place. Merry Christmas!

[@scousewillo62]

Thank you for some amazing stories. Exceptional rifles and some lovely glass also. I too have reverted to low mag scopes and actually seem to shoot far more accurately with them. Season greetings to all.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Yes - I agree - I find the lower powers are most instinctive and bring in enough light for dawn and dusk. Merry Christmas!

[@pseudopetrus]

Thank you Mike, your friend Martin was a special person!

[@kenlansing1216]

I've heard it whispered that the gunsmiths who are really into their craft are most interested on the falling block action. Those guns are minor works of art.

[@jamesdietz6899]

Exciting topic and lovely guns! Thanks for sharing your personal experiences with Hagn. The space between the barrels looks odd. Not sure I have ever seen that before.

[@rainbow2710]

Always a pleasure when KZbin updates me,with one of your videos. Lovely firearms - thank you for sharing. Warm regards and best wishes for Christmas and the New Year from Malta.🇲🇹❤️

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello - I must have deleted my earlier message to you. Thank you for being on the channel and I wish we could join you in Malta for wine and a chat. Have the best Christmas!

[@rainbow2710]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns No prob! You are always welcome to visit, perhaps you may combine it with a visit to nearby Italy - many do so when visiting Europe.

[@BernardCondic]

Ein Meisterwerk ❤ der büchsenarbeit

[@chasrmartel4777]

Beautiful firearms.

[@creightonsmith5333]

Beautiful work.

[@pseudopetrus]

RIP Martin Hagn! You made such beautiful guns!

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

Beautiful craftsmanship. Thank you very much for sharing, appreciate it 👍 Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱, T.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for being on the channel. Have a wonderful Christmas and all the best for 2024!

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns : Thank you. You too!

[@redsky8509]

So sorry to hear of your loss of a friend. Falling Block, what is not to love, and these are truly fantastic. Thankyou sir for sharing.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you!

[@thepiedpiper-i7x]

No doubt, a great insightful story about one of the worlds greatest custom gunmakers and the end of an remarkable era! I’m one of Martin’s former colleagues and used to work-in, together with another colleague (Chris), who was there apprenticing, with both Martin & Ralf Martini in Ralfs workshop for about 4 1/2 years! I think I’ve met you at least on one occasion once, but not quite sure if it was in Martin’s own workshop or earlier on in Ralf Martini’s workshop: could even be at the ACGG @ Reno/NV, which event I used to attend with them for a nr of years? I used to visit him at his place regularly: lately usually mostly with my wife during the weekends, as I have my own shop to attend to, not too far from his in Cranbrook! He was a great guy: him and his family actually became close friends of us, were we shared many wonderful times during mutually shared lunches & dinners over time! Went out hunting with him several times: twice hiking up to his beloved cave and could tell you a few colourful stories about these occasions! It’s been nearly a month since his passing and we all miss him dearly: his passion for his work, passion for guns overall, his funny quirks & his down to earth humour! Again, he’ll be missed by all of us; sincere condolences to his family & waidmanns heil!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello - Thank you for sharing. I think I know you. I'll have to find you for some custom guns. Meals at Heidi's remember? Brilliant gunmaker and inventor. I'll look you up. Have a great Christmas!

[@Mike-zw7fq]

Mike! I am Sorry for the loss of your Friend. Though I am Glad that you have been Blessed by Good Quality Friends. I have noticed that .223 in previous videos as .223 is one of my pet calipers. A Beautiful work of Art. A Very Nice and Respectful Video. My Sincerest Best Wishes from Montana! M.H.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello M.H.! Thank you so much. Sheryl and I wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas!

[@bobocan17]

Great video Mike! I wish I could afford one of those mini actions, very elegant looking. That coat your wearing, it looks like one of those traditional German hunting coats. I’m picturing you in the woods with a hagn rifle, the coat, and a nice tyrolean hat! I’d steal the whole ensemble!

[@bobbyscott8024]

''Are the deer getting smaller?'' This only comes from people with a huge amount of common sense! Thanks for sharing these amazing stories and the beautiful works of art to go along with them! You were truly blesssed to have him as a friend and something tells me he'd have said the same about you! This is what shooting and hunting is really all about. Thanks Mike!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you! All the best for the New Year!

[@brecherxp9795]

Great channel. Bob Ross of guns...greets from germany.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you and Frohe Weihnachten! I receive quite a bit of mail from Germany - great gun and hunting country!

[@Borntobife]

I´m very sorry to hear Mr. Hagn passed away. Once again let me thank you for all the knowledge and craftmanship you shared with us. It really made me appreciate it these incredible actions mixed with art. I´m deeply sorry for Mr. Hagn deceased, his work was really superb and hope you find comfort in the friendship shared with him. Thank you and best wishes to you and Mr. Hagn´s family.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for your heartfelt message 🙏

[@mdirtydogg]

Thank you so much for this episode. I am sorry to hear of Mr Hagn passing away. This is a wonderful tribute to a true master of his craft and trade. A friend of mine in the UK, an immensely knowledgeable man about firearms who had been an RFD for a long time, told.me that Mr Hagn made the most beautiful falling block rifles and that he always wanted one. Thank you once again.

[@karldegroot3131]

...can't believe the craft this man exercised. Truly amazing. A lifetime dedicated to perfection. You present everything in such a humble, respectful way. Mudita. Merry Christmas to you and yours. RIP Martin Hagn.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you. Have a wonderful Christmas and all the best for 2024!

[@nerradnosnhoj5122]

Thank you for the video Mike , very nice firearms here I would be lucky to afford a NEA single shot these days , I do admire these treasures though Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and everyone close to you, best wishes in 2024

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Tough times for no good reasons IMHO - I'm certain things will improve. Have a wonderful Christmas and only the best for 2024!

[@davidgendron1953]

Thanks Mike for taking the time to make this video regarding this marvellous gun maker/designer! All the best

[@joelowery6919]

My sincere condolences for the loss of your friend. I have admired his work but, was never able to get one of his works of art. Great video, thanks.

[@colinw732]

Thank you for making such an interesting video. Beautiful rifles. This was a great tribute to Martin Hagn. His skill is so evident in what you showed and explained. A true artisan.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for commenting - Merry Christmas

[@missey3164]

Absolutely Beautiful guns . Thank you for sharing

[@jimmaclellan930]

I was dismayed to learn here of Martin Hagn’s passing. In 1987 while living in Cranbrook I needed a peep Sight on my one and only rifle, a model 94 Winchester 30-30. Somebody gave me Martin Hagn’s name and I ended up at his door with no idea of his accomplishments and stature as a gun maker. He happened to have a Used Williams peep sight in his shop and agreed to install it. It sits on my 30-30 to this day and shoots straight and true. I remember Martin Hagn’s as a humble, straight up man. I’m sorry he’s no longer with us. Thank you for sharing a part his remarkable life story!

[@chipsterb4946]

That double rifle is spectacular in so many ways! Thank you for sharing and Merry Christmas!

[@tiltedflip4491]

Quality time spent hearing this. Very rich and appreciated.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for being on the channel

[@pachuagfirearmsrestorations]

Thank you for sharing, gorgeous rifles !!

[@Khethatipet]

Rest in Peace Mr. Hagn, I've known about his skill and craft for a few years from your channel. Absolutely amazing talent, sad I likely won't ever have one of his falling blocks.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Maybe you will

[@williamstuart9812]

That mini is gorgeous Mike. He did great work clearly. I would love it in a rook cartridge (or a Hornet or Bee). .223 can easily be downloaded to that level and works well with cast but I'd rather not bother.

[@poppasquat8483]

Oh man, that Mannlicher M92 Stutzen sporter on the wall caught my eye, hope you feature it soon

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Will do : )

[@JerseyRed]

So much insight. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I deeply appreciate your passing along details of the world's finest firearms and their history. Have a great holiday season.

[@BigT27295]

Merry Christmas. Those are beautiful works of art. Thanks for the video.

[@edawg1860]

Thank you for sharing the beauty with those of us who will never hold one. And thank you for getting out the proper attire!

[@willaimwinchell1813]

What gorgeous firearms. They are beautiful. I don't believe I have ever heard of the gentleman. Thanks for the video.

[@morelanmn]

You just showed your friend some well earned respect. The action of a man with class.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you

[@josephstabile9154]

Thanks much, for the very informative video. Your video made me realize just how much the Hagn action/rifle was much under-appreciated by ME. My loss.

[@sjuels]

Thank you, that was a very nice presentation, and a great introduction to some amazing falling block rifles, and an amazing designer.

[@paulbuchbauer7002]

Mike, my condolences for the loss of your friend, a true engineer & artist. Also, tolle trachtenjacke!!

[@aberhan]

Great presentation and explanation. All information I was not aware of. Thank you very much.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for the note.

[@gusloader123]

Wow! Fine looking rifles. Great craftsmanship. Good memories. Mike - you have given us lovers of quality guns a video Christmas present. Thank You!!! Merry Christmas to you and yours.

[@nestorpetriw3340]

Wonderful tribute to what was clearly an inspired and passionate gunmaker. (P.S. scan those old faxes before the images fade away!)

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Nestor - I will try the scan - good idea. Sheryl and I wish you a happy, safe and peaceful Christmas and all the best for the New Year!

[@nestorpetriw3340]

Thank you, Mike. May you and your loved ones enjoy a joyous Christmas and a healthy and prosperous New Year!

[@dinoquintana4319]

Dear Mike I'm very sorry for the loss of your good friend and business associate. The best thing that came out of this video is the fact that you are thinking of writing a book.what a wonderful idea They say you can't take it with you but another of the knowledge you share is priceless and irreplaceable. I hope you do write a book.i for one would buy several.

[@bc30cal99]

Good afternoon from the south Okanagan sir. Thanks so much for the video sharing your memories of Martin Hagn. I was able to handle a couple Hagn actions at the Penticton gun show years back and it was nothing short of amazing. Merry Christmas to you.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you! Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year!

[@Lou.B]

Fascinating story about an interesting man, Mike! I am grateful to see examples of the projects you both worked on, the component design schematics, and others of the final work. It's challenging to even imagine the interplay between all the disciplines involved in such amazing devices (not to mention execution); "beautiful" certainly fits, but only begins to tell the whole story! Merry Christmas to you and Family!

[@johanhalvarsson8889]

Fantastic video🙌 beautiful rifles

[@codymayrer5059]

Always enjoy your videos, very interesting and informative!! You are a lucky person to own such amazing guns.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you - very lucky for sure. Nothing but gratitude for the good luck I've had so far.

[@alaska1andy959]

Beautiful rifles.

[@woodsinme]

Thank you I did find that very interesting. Having watched several of your videos now subbed. Good information, thank you.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for being on the channel. Suggestions always welcome. Good health and good shooting.

[@kdm6287]

Lovely looking guns, what an interesting vid, thanks

[@chrishoyt7548]

Sorry to hear of Hagn's passing. Great rifle designs and quality. Would you mind doing a vid in greater detail on him at some point. I like your Bavarian jacket. Regards und Tschuss Chris

[@jonlennon3348]

To say I like your taste is an understatement.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you - and Merry Christmas!

[@kenaidog6974]

Hagn rifles are exceptional and along with that comes the price tag. Not many come up for sale because they are cherished as they should be.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's true - worth the coin if they come along.

[@imafreakinhistorian2169]

Thank you for some amazing stories & sharing these Exceptional rifles with us .

[@nomanmcshmoo8640]

I love these...but I AM a sucker for falling (and tilting) blocks. You have been such a good influence on my collection. My condolences on the loss of your friend recently.

[@paulgandy8400]

Suffering and solitude builds character😁

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

This is true. : )

[@weinerdog137]

Wow. Lovely. Devotion to craft.

[@llkj7944]

I spent many of hours chatting in person with Martin when he lived and worked in Cranbrook,even though he worked on very high end and very expensive work, he still made time to do some work for me and charged modest labour rate. He loved to talk about Canada and Elk hunting. His machine shop was outstanding.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for writing. An unforgettable man of remarkable ability. Missed terribly we who knew him were so fortunate.

[@marinioaweischo6614]

Damn, i had a couple of days the same idea, a 8x57irs with the same style of extractor for 8x57Is. Like always, someone else had the idea before. Hagn's original workshop in bavaria still exists, his former trainee is making high end stocks.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you - I should visit one day

[@gbaughman3348]

Gorgeous rifles, If I ever own one, I don't think I would part with it. I wished more gunmakers like him were around.

[@mrgruisinge]

Looking at the underlever I would say a rather good blacksmith too.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

He was excellent at everything : )

[@dalemeyer8207]

That was iintresting . Thanks 😎

[@94twentytwo76]

FANTASTIC Video! 💯 I hope you are able to publish that book 🍻

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you! I'm working on finding the time : ) Merry Christmas!

[@garywemmer9342]

Have ALWAYS been in love with single shot rifles .. If you can't get it done with one.... Plus, the elegance of its form! From the .22, to the exotic...they will be an art form that will ride easy on your shoulder.

[@KrugerrandFarms]

Mike When you publish your book on these rifles I would love to have a copy. If I had a good set of drawings or at least an exploded view I think I could complete one of these. The Henry and the Remmington Hepburn also had angled firing pins. The Hepburn That I had in 32-40 often got the firing pin stuck in the fired case but it would often reliese if you snapped the hammer again. The Hepburn had a lot of other problems and I felt that it wasn't verry well thought out.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you - I hope I find the time for the book : ) I'm going to restore the drawings as best I can; maybe get some help from a conservator. I found more and will be filming on patreon - hopefully today. Have a Merry Christmas!

[@joshuagibson2520]

Your intro music sounds like freedom to me.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's the most beautiful sound of all. Merry Christmas!

[@johnstewart9745]

Sorry for your loss, didn’t know much of him living in the UK ,🇬🇧

[@blackgrouse70]

"Not seeking comfort..." sounds Nordic 😉😊 A great video as always - greetings from Norway.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello - Yes - that's the same spirit - Russians often are often similar. It's an interesting contrast to the way most people are; seeking comfort, convenience and luxury. I guess Martin's rifles are pretty luxurious though : ) Have a Merry Christmas!

[@danielwarren8539]

That rifle is definitely a work of art.

[@derekedgley5074]

Hi Mike I could listen to your discussions on rifles endlessly and especially these Hagn as one can clearly see what the association with this firearm genius meant to you. You also made kindly mention of Don Allen who made several rifles for me back in the day. I had several memorable visits to Sturgis and was always enthralled by his personal inventory of best grade wood etc. I still have a new unfired (other than U.K. proofed) AAA walnut stocked rifle in his proprietary 330 Dakota an excellent round for deer through dangerous. I previously did several safaris with a Bastogne walnut one which he built and I 😢fell in love with the calibre, but sadly lost it, courtesy of Air France somewhere between CDG and Windhoek, hence had another built and imported, but the untimely demise of a hunting friend of 46 years influenced my decision to cease. As always, we look forward to more of your discussions.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for taking the time to write. Don was taken far to early. I remember the many conversations with him and (from memory) Ward and Norma was usually in the background or maybe not. Yes - guns disappear in international travel; I've heard from a few people; not good but it's mostly the airport helpers. They help themselves to things. The 330 is such a fine cartridge - unfortunately not well known now. There is something about having custom guns made - such a fantastic lift and so interesting and useful; and valuable - I hope you return. Anyway, have the best Christmas!

[@georgesheffield1580]

Hartman and Weiss are one of the very best gun makers in the world .

[@WhatIfBrigade]

A wonderful tribute to your friend.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you 🙏

[@missey3164]

Do you have anything on or from Roy Vail from Warwick NY. He was another Mastercraft on gun smithing

[@craigschiller1599]

Hi Mike, great videos as always even with the passing of your friend, with all the single shot talk have you ever seen any Frank De Hass singleshots? I think he & his brother wrote several books on single shot rifles & actions. I could be wrong but I think it was in the 60's. Cheers mate. Martin Hagn, what exeptional tallent in all areas.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello - Yes - I have one of the De Hass / Miller rifles - quite interesting. I'll make a video. Very fast lock time due to striker.

[@craigschiller1599]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thankyou for your reply, look forward to seeing it & any information. Love your videos how you dissasemble & explain everything not have in a glass cabinet. Many collectors would love to have that #1 but many of us would never get to see it otherwise

[@thepiedpiper-i7x]

It’s Frank de Haas by the way! We used to built copies from scratch from his Chickopee single shot rifle in .22Hornet during my time at C.G.A.L in Lamar/CO!

[@MikeGuadango]

A heck of a loss. One of the best gunsmiths in Canada. We were lucky to have him in BC.

[@MikeSiemens88]

Truly fine firearms. Closest I have to a falling block is a number of lever actions, the lever being the only similar piece. Your jacket caught my eye too. Looks traditional Bavarian or Austrian. I have something similar but in grey wool. You aren't by any chance sporting a pair of lederhosen under the desk? Interesting that Mr. Hagn resided in Cranbrook. It's a bit of a drive from where I live in BC but I've been through there several times on my way to Kimberley.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

: ) - no lederhosen under the desk - only in the closet. Cheers.

[@Murzington]

Where can we get one of those books you were showing?

[@georgesheffield1580]

His guns are not mass produced ,but indivually designed and built for just you . The Brits call this a " bespoke gun ".

[@tonykruger871]

Martin did his Cameroon hunt barefoot . I hunted Cameroon not long after him and we both suffered from unexplained illness for many years after . I communicated with Martin as we both saught to find a diagnosis . I was also privileged to guide Ralf Martini on a hunt

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for your message. I remember Martin's unforgettable tale of suffering with the soles of his feet destroyed in Cameroon. Also, he told me about a 450-400- 3 1/4 was it? Anyway, I'm glad you both survived. Please keep in touch at [e-mail] I'm considering writing a book on Martin - in which case you and your part in his journey could be a part. If not, no worries and all the best! Mike

[@garywemmer9342]

The double rifle.... In the master caliber. Everything you need, so little you don't.

[@mountain_man_7626]

If you haven't already, can you PLEASE do a video on the sporterized Gew/Kar 88 behind you in this video?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello - If I still have it - I will : )

[@mountain_man_7626]

@UnitedStatesOfGuns awesome, thank you!

[@strartur]

I like the jacket!👌

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you!

[@strartur]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns It is a very decent touch to hint at Mr. Hagn's Germanic origin and craft. May he stay in bright remembrance with You and the fine gunmakers' world.

[@jeanmorin3247]

The falling block is very much associated with the 'one shot kill' approach to hunting. One carrying such a rifle has to be a sharp shooter, but more than that, a discerning shooter. To think that there should be a second round in the rifle makes this whole sacred approach redundant. Perhaps it should still be construed as a one-shot rifle with a choice of bullet weight. One barrel for the 150 grain and one for the 180 grain, --- but you can't shoot both...! Hi, Hi! ... Again, Superb presentation of Picasso-level creativity and skill.

[@debi5292]

Harry Seigfried was a great designer but little known. Some of his accomplishments were the micro motion trigger in the 52 Winchester. At High Standard the sentinel series of revolvers. At Ruger he did the .44 magnum carbine in 1966 fallowed a year later with the Ruger 10-22 Also at Ruger the Security Six revolver that is quite similar to the HS Sentinel revolvers, At Ruger, this also applies to the Red Hawk series.

[@kirkstewart-vf6hg]

My love for big bore is the Borchardt sharps.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

A near perfect rifle

[@thetoneknob4493]

ive never seen a finer falling block and im betting i never will. ive ben looking at alot of old Japanese swords lately blades that wer made between 1330 to 1680 give or take and its a reminder that these things can last alot longer than we can lol..in 600 years that rifle should be in the national treasure category! the same as fine swords from the kamakura and nambboku-cho era now designated as important cultural artifacts and some even receive national treasure status. i keep an eye out because i can identify such swords even covered in rust and i hope to find at least one more i can afford to rescue.. btw that rifle in 45acp might just be the coolest single shot on earth! and it would pair perfectly with my 1942 colt m1911a1. the 45acp is my fav lil cartridge!

[@gordyowens9570]

I would like to see the Rugar #3

[@carlsartor1423]

I have #87 made for John T, Amber made in 1983 in 7x64 with claw mount scope

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's fantastic - pics would be amazing; only if that's okay. Cheers!

[@carlsartor1423]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I will try to get some pictures up soon, i just had a knee replacement two weeks ago

[@hubertusvenator5838]

I hope that the Hartmann & Weiss rifles built on the Hagn action will continue to be built. Rigby is building Farquharson rifles.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I think H&W will keep going with Hagn and Heeren; maybe others. The Rigby is fantastic.

[@flingshotlife]

Publish it for all to enjoy, before it is lost to time or hopefully not fire.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I'll do my best

[@rickstrandberg6398]

Beautiful mini,cheekpiece seems odd,223 nice choice but probably not in fast enough twist.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Pretty little rifle; I'm not sure what the twist is - you're right - probably for lighter bullets. Cheers

[@robertodebeers2551]

The deer are not getting smaller, but I've seen elk shrink right before my eyes as they strolled across a park that was too far to shoot.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Well put : )