Ruger Model 77 vs Ruger Hawkeye

Come learn the differences and similarities between the early Ruger Model 77 and the Ruger Hawkeye. If you are interested to know my favorite "USOG Ruger" please join me and I'm happy to let you know. Enjoy and I hope you learn something new about the Ruger Model 77 and the Hawkeye. Comment below and let me know your favorite.
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[@JohnnyRebKy]

I LOVE that full length wood stock !!! I still don’t own a plastic gun. I still think a old fashioned rifle with a walnut stock is the most beautiful rifle 👍. I know wood has its disadvantages but I like my guns to also be good on the eyes

[@gennerobootz6490]

Lol I still will not hunt with a synthetic stock

[@JohnnyRebKy]

@@gennerobootz6490 me either. I don’t own any 👍🏻

[@Hialeah1925]

Full length stocks are the nicest

[@DaileyWoodworks]

Life is too short to shoot an ugly gun. Give me walnut and deep blued steel.

[@thom5255]

Dream to have that full stock

[@johnt4060]

I absolutely love the Ruger 77. I also love your videos sir! I get excited when I see the notifications

[@Aussie038]

I have a post 64 Mod 70 since 1982. It has worked flawlessly since day one, I could not ask for more.

[@wagstag89]

My go-to hunting rifle is a 1971 M77 in 3006. Most accurate rifle I've ever shot. It puts plain old Winchester 180 grain PowerPoints through the same hole at 100 yards with a 3 shot group. I have a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x on it with the original rings. It has a history of dropping whitetail.

[@scottwilson1258]

Your expression when You said the Coyote had a collar was classic !

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Scott - I know what you mean - I still wake up about that one though.

[@gerryklock2222]

This was an excellent video, love the presentation and the break downs of the firearms. Very well done sir, thank you!

[@willypp13]

This video made my day, I have a soft spot for this channel it’s like a Internet jewel

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Very good perspective. Thanks for taking the time to lay all this out & display it. Great asset to those who are interested.

[@phil.paulastocks2276]

The most accurate rifle I own is a Ruger 77 I bought new in 1970 in 6mm Rem. All I have ever done to it was adjust the factory set 4 lb trigger to 3 lb. and handload for it. Settled on 39.5 gr of IMR 4064 topped with a Sierra matchking 85 gr bthp. It consistently prints 1/2 inch groups off bags on a bench at 100 yards. Topped with a Leupold mk II set on 9x. If I do my part and the wind is calm, it will print 1 1/2 inch groups consistently at 300 yards. I don't know what more you could ask of a factory rifle. Oh, and for what it's worth, I paid $160 for it new in 1970. The Leupold mk II 3x9 scope was $115.

[@dustybowhunter]

Phil.Paula Stocks is your rifle free floated? I cant seem to get very good groups out of the non-free floated barreled m77’s but the free floated ones seem to be sub .5 Moa

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

@@frufru0071 FWIW, all of the original (tang safety) M77s are cock-on-open actions. There's every reason to believe that the MKII and the now current Hawkeye are as well.

[@arodrigues2843]

@@Gunners_Mate_Guns THEY ARE.!! The differences, are that tang safety in the Mk. 1, as beem replaced for a better side safety in the Mk. 2, and the great difference, is that in the first, you have the extractor and a spring loaded, rod ejector in the bolt's face, like the Rem. 700, and in the Mk. 2, it has a standing ejector AND a LONG claw extractor like of the one of the Mauser 98.!!! ( And pre-64 Winchester!) THANK GOD.!!! So, Mk. 1, is a "push feed", and the Mk. 2, is a "controlled feed", A MUCH BETTER SYSTEM, in my humble opinion.!!!

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

@@arodrigues2843 I already know about the feeding/safety system on the MKII and Hawkeye, two features essentially brought in from the much loved Mauser/pre-64 Winchester model 70. Mine is the push feed version, and while I've thought about getting a Hawkeye instead, I'm entirely satisfied with it that I don't want to spend the approximately $800 it would take to do that. My "inferior" M77 is so good (MOA with two of my reloads) that there's no way I'll sell it.

[@artsmith103]

@@arodrigues2843 Thanks for the info. I have the side safety MKII in 7mm Rem Mag. It's probably a little better shot than me but over the years I've closed the gap :-)

[@ZommBleed]

I've got a 30-somerhing year old M77R .220 Swift. Bought it brand new in a shopping mall gun store. Put a Ramline synthetic stock on it. Will never part with it. It's a tack driver. I'll probably pick up another used one if I ever see one for sale. Love the tang-mounted safety. I'll never understand why they discontinued this model or the tang safety.

[@409rommel]

Great video. Have three Model 77’s. All are super. The story I remember about how Bill Ruger came up with name “77”. He took a 7 from Winchesters 70 and a 7 from Remingtons 700, his two biggest competitors at the time.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I didn't know that - sense to it. He made a legend of his own. Amazing man. Apparently wanted to build cars at one point.

[@gennerobootz6490]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns do you also sell rifles or just collect them ?

[@thedahlins]

Thanks for the coyote story! Your honesty and concern about everyone, including the dog, is a lesson for us all!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Paul - I try - all the best to you.

[@guystewart8468]

Great video as always...thanks ! The first new, off the rack rifle I ever bought was a Rugger 77 in 1975......it was an oddball 220 Swift in a sporter weight barrel. Excellent shooter/tack driver with handloads ! Traded it off several years later and have kicked myself ever since.

[@nelsonr1467]

That Ruger 77 looks really nice sporting that famous Mauser action

[@donaldanderson3249]

Ive got 3 77 mark 2's , love them and 4 Winchester model 70's. Post 64 and they're great rifles.

[@ekim000]

Thanks for these videos. They are so informative that despite being a black belt gun nerd I never get to the end of one without learning.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

Great video. I really enjoyed the ‘break down’ 👍🏽 I was given a Ruger M77 in the venerable .25-06 manufactured in 1971. The action on that rifle is super smooth, just like the RSI version you showed in your video.

[@adamcuneo7189]

@HarrisonCountyStudio, I was also given a Ruger M77 in .243 made in 1976 by my great-uncle a couple years ago, and I absolutely love the action as well, very smooth like butter, they are fantastic rifles, and thank God Ruger didn't stop making them.

[@kenworthNH]

I have a nice M77 made in 1976. It has a little stamp in the medal about being issued on the bicentennial or something. It's in 7mm Rem Mag and it's a handsome and smooth rifle that seems built to be outdoors stalking game. Rugers have a solid feel to them.

[@deepmarsh]

Made in the 200th year of American Liberty?

[@yangfeng655]

Thanks for sharing the coyote story. I think we can always learn something from experience.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello Yang - your words are golden. I learned a lot that day.

[@stephensmith4480]

Never tough Mike. Always enjoyable.....

[@Johnat709]

Always enjoy your videos. I have several Win Pre 64 M70's, Standard weight and Featherweight, and a couple of Ruger M77 Hawkeyes...all chambered in 30-06. Truly enjoy how the feel, shoot, look, trigger, and just make me a better shooter than I actually am...absolutely love the Wood used in the Pre 64 Winchesters...

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You're a lucky man John. I had some pre-64s. And then, sold them like a fool. Now I can't get them back. Oh well - I found other rifles to buy ; )

[@ChallisVenstra]

I’ve got a tang safety 22-250. Paid $400 from a guy down in Salt Lake City, he was getting and AR. Not a scratch on it. Sweet shooting rifle. Blued steel in walnut, 2 of my favorite things. Thanks for the video. I always enjoy them.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello Challis - Great buy! $400. for a timeless value is a steal. Well done.

[@frufru0071]

Challis Venstra Is this not one of, if not THE BEST firearms channels available to us? Mike replies to almost every single comment-if that’s not setting a first-class example, I don’t know what is. An interesting round that I don’t know much about is your 22-250. I’m curious to know what you are hunting-if you hunt. I share your sentiments for Steel in Walnut and the great videos available to us. Great stuff, Challis!👍🏼👍🏼

[@ChallisVenstra]

B. Frew the .22-250 Remington is a .22 caliber cartridge based on the .250 Savage, necked to .22 and commercialized by Remington, I believe in the 60’s, but don’t quote me on that. It was one of the first 4000 FPS rounds, comparable to the .220 Swift, only without the semi-rimmed case. My dad claims he likes the .220 Swift better, and he’s shot both, I don’t personally have much experience with the Swift. The 22-250 is a varmint round, most popular around here (Utah) with coyote hunters. The only downside I know of with the 22-250 is it usually comes with a 1 in 14 twist and thus limiting your bullet weight selection. Some have used it on mule deer, I think it’s a bit small for that, but to each his own. No caliber restrictions here. I love his videos. Straight forward to the point content, and he’s not afraid to so I don’t know (even if he doesn’t have to say it much.) I wish I had as sweet a gun collection as he does. Seams like a super nice guy that you could kill an afternoon with and get a great education. And, yes, blued steel and walnut, the way rifles should be. I will allow maple too, I think it looks great. Sorry I’m a bit long winded here, but I like talking guns. Have a good one! Edit: Some call it the .250-3000 Savage, as it was one of the first 3000 FPS rounds.

[@TimD9804]

Ruger 77s get a lot of knocks on the forums because of the investment casting. I own 5 M77 tangers going back to the late '70s, and never a hiccup out of the lot. I have an RSI in 250 Sav that I like quite a bit, but my favorites are the 77RL Ultra Lights. I just had one of them rebarreled to .260 Rem. It's my new mule deer/antelope rifle. Timeless firearms.

[@raycarl7933]

36 years ago I paid $275 for a new model 77 RSI in .243 for my sons first birthday. My wife went crazy that I would spend that kind of money. He still has it , I bought it because it was so beautiful.

[@tim7052]

I got my first high-power centrefire, a Ruger M77, tang safety, in .30/06, 35yrs ago. I still have that rifle, and apart from glass bedding it, It's still in factory condition. I handload, using 180gr Woodleigh projectiles, and it shoots MOA at 300yds. I've taken everything up to kudu and wildebeeste with it (including a shark!!), and my daughter used it to roll her 100-pt Northern Territory water buffalo without fuss. My Ruger M77 has proven herself to be 100% dependable and accurate - to me she's just a beautiful Lady!! 😊👍

[@graemewhalen40]

Such a pleasure to have you share your knowledge with us. I really appreciate the work you do to bring us this information and your opinion, thank you sir.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Graeme; it's a pleasure to share what I know.

[@yearzero974]

That Ruger 77 RSI just went on my want to get list! I'm a sucker for good Mannlicher stocked rifles.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hard to beat - so quick in the hand and classic. You'll like it.

[@yearzero974]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have a limited edition Ruger 1022 International and a deluxe Interarms Mk X, the one with the double set triggers and butterknife bolt handle. I had a Mannlicher Schoenauer in 8x56ms but sold it, a thing I often regret. That was a true classic, I had brass and dies made for it.

[@smolboyi]

Idk what RSI means but the store I work at sells a new hawkeye in this configuration, Mannlicher 308

[@joedirt5463]

@@smolboyi Right Side International. I have the M77 in .30-06Sprg. I want to be buried with it.LOL

[@smolboyi]

Lol, I am poor right now :[

[@frufru0071]

I’m very fortunate to have my great grandfather's Winchester 1894, in 30/30, manufactured in 1912. I’ve been told that it’d cost thousands to make one as they were made before 1964. It’s beautiful. You know who I am, and thanks very much for sharing another great video with us!✌🏼

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you! Your great grandfather bought well. Still in the genes : )

[@philj3111]

Another great and informative video, thankyou!

[@carba8606]

My first gun in 243 was RUGER 77....Great gun

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's an ideal first rifle. The .243 performs out of all proportion to its paper numbers - a fantastic cartridge.

[@andrewsteinfeldt422]

I really enjoy your approach to firearms; the mechanics of the gun! There is a great deal of thought into making a good gun. Maybe it is an art also.... Whatever the case, it sure is fun to think about. Thank you for your time and effort sharing your thoughts and observations.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for being here Andrew and for taking the time to write : )

[@calicojack556]

Really enjoyed your presentation, thanks!

[@zachb.6606]

Thanks for this! Love your videos. I've come across a Hawkeye in .308 and am considering buying it.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I hope you get it - you'll not regret buying it.

[@keganperry5758]

I have the pleasure of owning a Ruger M77 in 30-06 with a tang safety, currently looking to buy another one in 7x57.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Fantastic and timeless rifle - you chose well.

[@douglasthompson2740]

I always wonder why the complex machining of the older firearms isn't recreated with the advent of modern CNC capabilities? You could have close to that same quality for a mass produced price. I tend to think these decisions were not as much profit driven as a by product of the stock manipulations, hostile takeovers, asset raiding and sell offs, etc. Seems American corporate management is no longer good at making anything, but remarkably talented at destroying anything of value in short order.

[@joesonfifth3661]

Thank you for another fun and interesting video! I especially enjoyed the story 😃 I have a couple ideas for videos. I think a comparison of Winchester M70 vs Ruger M77, old and new. Perhaps the Winchester Alaskan and Ruger Guide Gun. Also, the Ruger RSI was beautiful, and what you said about it got me thinking. What if you did a video on your top 10 favorite videos? Or perhaps your go to guns for hunting? Just a couple ideas. Keep up your excellent work! Thank you, Joe

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for the suggestions!

[@kevingoza]

Well done. So appreciate your transparency.

[@gordonrizzuti6048]

I appreciate your taking apart firearms and sharing details about build and manufacture we can't easy see..... makes this site unique. Thank You!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for being here!

[@isaacb2658]

Yesterday, I spotted and purchased a 1982 made M77 chambered in 7mm Rem Mag at my local pawn shop while taking my 870 Wingmaster out of pawn. It has one of those cool vintage Weaver K4 60B scopes mounted on it, but I plan on replacing it with a more modern variable power scope (not sure which brand yet) but I plan on re-utilizing the Weaver after I send it for refurbishment/restoration and mount it on either my 10/22 or my Remington 572 Fieldmaster. I can’t wait for deer season now!

[@captainr.8882]

I am a BIG 77 Tang Safety fan. I own 11 of them, I bought another in the 77 RSI this morning in .308.

[@MFitz717]

Thank you so much for making this video. After passing several up, I got a Ruger m77 mk II in 6mm Remington. Bill Ruger was an ingenious man, starting a company making an affordable 22 semi auto pistol and then expanding to a full line. I plan on buying more Ruger rifles when I see them at shows and various shops.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Your 6mm is awesome and one of the best rounds ever. A 7X57 in 6MM - lightning on every deer I shot. And few know.

[@MFitz717]

USOG not sure what I’ll use it for quite yet. I was planning on using my 700 in 7mm mag with 150 gr Nosler Partitions for deer. I’m going to try to see how the 6mm does as a target gun, I have a 24x leupold To pair it with. I’d say if you handloqd the 6mm has a little bit more of an edge than the 243

[@woodsmansfinest3814]

Wonderful video... 3 years later and I own a Schönauer 1903 Stutzen now, pre 1923 made, with a Swarovski Habicht 2,3-9x42 in the original calibre 6,5x54 MS. Being from Innsbruck myself an dmy mother from Gmunden near Steyr, this is the perfect rifle for me and I got to take 3 fallow deer this fall in Hungary with it using discontinued Norma ammunition. Your videos were among the motivation to drive up and down Austria to find that rifle which I will be handing down. However, needing a "Working Rifle" not to put too much ammo through the old "Elisabeth" made me come back as a Ruger Hawkeye, Mauser or Remington 700 is on the list in 308. Cheers and all the best again to you! Max from Austria

[@davidirwin8601]

Thank you for the great videos

[@vidsoutmike]

I have a Ruger M77 MK11 stainless in .280 REM. I bought in 1993. It's still my best gun I own.

[@lexzoolia1]

Thank you for another excellent video

[@joshuaolewiler7792]

I have a m77 in 7mm rem mag an a m77 mark 2 in 220 swift great beautiful rifles

[@joewho3691]

My is a round top m77 270 win red pad with a old 3x9 leupold...Great video 👍

[@normanmallory2055]

This was well done , very well said .. Even though i do not own a Ruger 77 or have bought one as of yet, of the ones i have fired at the range and hunting one time i borrowed one and i liked all the features ..The model 77 is very well made from the few i have had out of the stock and looked over really close.. A little bit behind myself to start out .. I grew up around firearms with my father owning several bolt action rifles one being a Win. pre-70 one a Mauser 98 custom and one Marlin 336.. My grandfather owned a Win . 54 model which he liked really well and was his favorite hunting rifle .. I liked and enjoyed the Win pre-64 model 70 or the Rifleman's Rifle as they were called .. I read Outdoor Life every month couldn't hardly wait to read what Jack O' Conner had to say about his latest hunting adventure with a custom stocked pre-64 model 70.. I never bought that model Winchester or the Remington 700 either which i felt was a fine well made rifle also .. My favorite rifle was the Mauser 98 custom in 6mm Remington is what i settled on.. Later on i purchased My first Weatherby Mark V rifle after that next came the Ruger no. 1 and i do like that model of action as i like single shot rifles and still do .. My latest was the Ruger 77/22 with walnut stock, blued steel , i love that rifle and it became the model i started looking for as i could not find a Win. model 52 anywhere .. I did find before the Ruger 77/22 a Remington 513T bolt .22 rifle with a semi heavy barrel and right after that a Remington model 37 single shot bull barrel so i bought those two .. But all in all the Ruger 77/22 is still my choice to take to the forests first or range ...You said something which may be true, someday we all may be marching to the woods with a Plastic rifle which may become the normal firearm to carry.. Nope not me i'm out of that mix, i will always like walnut stocks and blued steel that's just the way i'am..

[@davidcoleman4941]

Sir, From Australia, I treasure your knowledge. I've owned sauer 404 xt's , strasser rs14 , rossler titan , m70's , rem 700's, voeres etc But my Ruger M77's hold pride of place. I'm a Swedish Mauser and K98 fanatic, apart from my Brno 550's Rugers are to me the AKM of the Mauser world. Thank you for your fantastic sites. David

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi David! So glad you're here and your kind words are much appreciated. I'm with you - the Rugers are gems and the 550s and Mausers are just about unstoppable. Love visiting your country - hope to be back soon!

[@RickNethery]

Excellent review my friend, you know I love the M77 series of rifles, especially the Hawkeye and M77 Frontier. I know it was hard on you accidentally shooting that dog, but you handled it honorably. God Bless you Sir.

[@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill]

When I browse shops, one thing I look for is used m77s . I've seen some pretty nice ones but usually not a caliber I'm looking for. I'm not a rem 700 fan but some of the older ones with irons or something similar with irons I might snag one day.

[@RickNethery]

@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill They are great rifles.

[@frufru0071]

Rick Nethery's Firearm Channel hello, Rick! I’m the quadriplegic fella in some of WestCoaster's videos. Nice to see you here, a great channel. You’ve always got a kind word to say and I appreciate that-no matter where I see said 'words'! Thank YOU. My best to you, and have a great weekend, brother!

[@RickNethery]

@@frufru0071 Good to hear from you brother , you and Westcoaster are awesome folks. Hope y'all are having a great weekend too.

[@williamstuart9812]

Agree on the RSI. I purchased one for my late wife and they were a great match. I loaded the .308 down about 15% and it was a fine fast handling elegant rifle. One of the best ever.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Brilliant - light loads are the ticket. I find they are just as effective. I load the Hornady round nose, I thinks 150's at a velocity discount - everything falls down.

[@frufru0071]

I’ve been trying to get my wife into casual "plinking", because it’s a great way, for me, to relax. No success, yet, & we’ve been together 26 years. It wasn’t my passion for target shooting that brought us together or that occupied our time😊. Now our Grandson is-deservedly-our primary focus & we’re lucky to live in the same neighbourhood as him. In a few more years it might be time for him to learn about his grandpa’s favourite pastime-I hope. *@williamstuart9812: Your comment makes me realize that it doesn’t matter how much I’d love for my wife to enjoy the experience of "ringing the gong" with HER favourite rifle-it’s not her thing-that’s alright. Luckily, we have a lot in common. I’m very sorry for your loss, Sir. Your comment reminded me how precious my wife is. My level best to you.

[@paulhaines4818]

Thank you.....Very interesting video. I have a tang safety 77 in 30-06 I bought in the early 80s. Love it 👍

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Paul - Excellent rifle as you know. The tang safety was a perfect location that people write me - they miss on later models.

[@oncall21]

A great video and many thanks. My first .270 was a Ruger M77 and I should have kept it. I also owned a Ruger M77 RSI in .308 also which was a tack driver. Unfortunately I also sold this too. I then owned a Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 30/06 and sold it as I stepped up to a 300 Win Mag. The Ruger M77 was a push feed but is still my favourite Ruger of them all. I really liked the tang safety (the same with my Browning A Bolt 11's). It's sad today to see Ruger just pushing their plastic line of centrefire rifles (like Winchester's XPR and Browning's AB3) while the Ruger M77 Hawkeye 11's are very thin on the ground, if at all. Thanks for sharing!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You had some of the greats! Better to have had and sold then never to have had at all : ) And I agree - the newer models may work and be accurate and all - but they are such low devices compared to the the rifles they try to replace.

[@alaskajohn5695]

I own a common Stainless All-Weather stainless Ruger 77 22-magnum, owned it for near 30-years. It is the most reliable flat shooting rifle in my collection. Impeccable performance, and reliability in coastal saltwater Alaska weather conditions. Love your channel...

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello AlaskaJohn - The Ruger is a remarkable rifle - engineered and manufactures far beyond rim fire standards - which is why they used the same action for .357 and .44 and my black powders. All the best.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

It's also worth a small fortune today. I've wanted one for years, and now that I have a little disposable cash they're outrageously priced.

[@lorenlieder9789]

Great video as usual Mike. The 77 is and always will be a great rifle. I have re barreled many of them and they always shoot great.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for that affirmation Loren - you know a lot more about them thank I do.

[@adamcuneo7189]

Is re-barreling changing them to shoot a different cartridge.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

I have one (Ruger M 77.) made in 1976. 270 Win. In excellent shape! With a Burris, Fullfield scope, from that same era. Thanks for sharing!!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Steven - perfect pairing - the rifle and the scope you have. Those Fullfields are not easy to find.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you! I had no idea. I was thinking about sending it to Burris for a tube up. Maybe not the best idea after all?

[@woodsmansfinest3814]

Amazing video... And that stutzen style ruger is now on top of my list.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello Woodsmans Finest - Glad the video was good and even more glad about the stutzen - you'll like it. Cheers!

[@rickykeim2005]

another well done Video Thanks.

[@buckshot4428]

For a long time Ruger did not know how to make barrels. Someone else made them and their 77's and others were literally hit or miss.

[@wiregrassga]

I love Ruger 77's also and have three, a tang safety RSI in .243, a tang safety standard in .30-06 and a 77 Hawkeye in .308. My favorite hunting rifles are all Rugers.

[@peterconnan5631]

My first proper hunting rifle was an M77 Mk2 RSI in .30-06. Actually would have preferred 7x57, but it was a lovely rifle until the accuracy went to hell and I just couldn't get it right. Hundreds of hours spent glass-bedding, free-floating and then experimenting with adding forend pressure back in, I just couldn't get it reliably accurate again. It's still the only rifle I ever let go. Gave it to a friend who put a different (heavier) barrel and plastic stock on. Nearly cried when I heard that. I actually had the same scope on mine that you have on that .308. Still have that thank goodness.

[@castbulletshooter3486]

Very well done comparison. I appreciate your time.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you

[@leeadams5941]

Excellent description of Winchesters former board and Remingtons present board

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Lee : )

[@markabercrombie9155]

A 77 in 280 Remington was my first new rifle, now it has the company of a 44 mag, a 6.5x,55, a 6mmRem and 2 RSIs, a 308 and a 77-22mag. The most elegant rifle made... next to the #1.

[@russellkeeling9712]

I just had a M77/270 rebarreled with a .275 Rigby barrel. I had the express sights like the original put on it. That banded front sight is attractive. I attempted to have a 1/4 rib rear sight installed but the cost of the sight was prohibitive for me. If I could have had the 1/4 rib it would have matched my Lipsey's Ruger #1 .35 Whelen.

[@stevecochran2677]

I have a Ruger model 77 mark II with the Mannlicher style stock in 243 win. That I bought new in the 1990s. It's a awsome little rifle that I bought because of its unique look, but it's a very good shooter and gives me the feel of quality that one would expect to come from a firearm with a much higher price tag than what I paid at the time.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's a near perfect rig Steve - I like the .243 in the RSI - which I think is what they call their Mannlicher.

[@prevost8686]

I have a great love for the M77 & Hawkeye rifles. I may as well be honest. I love a number of guns that a Ruger has made over the years including the #1, the 10/22, the 77/22, the MKII pistols. It was also a sad day when the Red Label shotguns disappeared from their lineup.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Wayne - You're right - that is such a fine shotgun - the Red Label and the SXS as well - I think that was the Gold Label ; these seem to go up in price every week.

[@bradmiller9993]

I was at my local FFL a few months ago and he had a red label 20 ga skeet sitting there on consignment. Love at first sight....for the shotgun, not the dealer. Bought it.

[@badgerstate3451]

My main hunting rifle is a tang safety 77 in 7mm Rem Mag. Ridiculously accurate and reliable. I love the Mannlicher stocked version. Nice video. Thank you.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Great rifle you have - but you know that. The 77 in 7RM is just about perfect.

[@Tony-om5kr]

Thanks for the entertaining video. One note, the original Ruger 77 (I have one in 7x57) does not have controlled round feed. It has the claw extractor but is a push feed action. The later versions (early 90's) had controlled round feed (I have the varmint rifle in 220 Swift). They also introduced the swing safety.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for the distinction - I didn't know. Have a Happy New Year!

[@davewinter2688]

Hey it's me again Mike. I just watched this fine video (now three years old) for at least the third or maybe the fourth time. I save a lot of your videos to my watch later list. I find it amazing the number of folks who don't understand the history of Winchester and also have no concept of the economics of manufacturing costs. The original Winchester went into receivership in 1931. They were bought in a bankruptcy auction by the Olin family corporation which made the Western ammo and later became known as Winchester/Western. That purchase saved Winchester for many years. Unfortunately as the years progressed Winchester's machinery was wearing out and many of its long time highly skilled employees were retiring. The shut down of M70 manufacturing caused by WWII created more problems. When the war (which was bringing us out of the depression) ended, Winchester could not afford to hire enough highly skilled machinists at then competitive wages to replace those lost to retirements and the war. The result was declining quality in its products and today's demand for the pre-war model 70's by collectors. Although Olin's purchase had saved Winchester for the time being, because of the associated costs, by the early 1960's Winchester was loosing money on every model 70 made. While we shooters and hunters like our tried and true rifles, a company's management's ultimate responsibility is to its ownership whether thousands of stockholders or a single individual. The decision to change the model 70 no doubt had some effect in delaying the demise of the company. Other market forces caused the 1989 bankruptcy but the discontinuance of the Pre-64 model 70 was not one of those causes. Regarding the Ruger M77, I've had a couple of them. My first was a 1974 M77R in 270 Winchester. It has always shot under one M.O.A. with my hand loads. I never had any complaints about the trigger or anything else about the rifle. I've read that a lot of the early 77's had accuracy problems depending on who supplied the barrels. One company in particular was said to be the source of the accuracy problems and I was lucky to get a rifle with a good barrel from another company. Now Ruger makes their own hammer forged barrels. An excellent process and quality control measure. Although the early 77 was not a true controlled round feed action, it does have the Mauser style claw extractor which is a plus in my opinion. Also a single round can be loaded without first inserting it into the magazine and the bolt head and extractor will snap over the case head when it's chambered. Bill Ruger was a genius who's outside the box thinking brought us great products. Some folks may still hold a grudge against him because of his support of Bill Clinton and his so called "assult weapons" ban but there is no doubt that his legacy lives on. Ruger has remained competitive and profitable by bringing out products that are in the lower price range and accurate while continuing to make the high quality model 77 and other great rifles and hand guns. To top it off it appears that they have saved the Marlin brand. The jury may be out on that for awhile but I think it's a good possibility. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Dave! What an excellent post! You know, you share...it doesn't get better. Thank you!

[@fredj2664]

Hello from Sweden, Thank you for yet another great video. I try to watch as many of them as I possibly can. Ruger 77 is a fantastic rifle, and has got a great history. If I may, I would like to make a suggestion. Would you like, and have the possibility, to share your thoughts (or a video) about the Husqvarna mod46, 9.3x57 (small ring). I know it is an old rifle and for many an odd caliber. I like the combination of low weight, large caliber (though slow) and intuitive handling. I use it for close range hunting and it functions perfectly with iron sights only. I know your previous videos about swedish rifles but I would appreciate your opinion here. Have a Nice day, and thanks! Fredrik

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello Fredrik! Thank you for the idea - and it is a fine one. I'll find a 9.3x57 - which is a fantastic cartridge and very useful and I'll make the video. I like the 9mm x 57 as well. All the best to you in Sweden.

[@falseprofit4u]

The Ruger 77 300 Win Mag. I had was the best of both worlds, M98 styled action with controlled feed but could be treated as a push feed if the need arose for a quick single shot.

[@randyhines3505]

Just bought a FPS ruger rsi incredible! Beautiful rifle! Alway enjoy your vids thank you

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Randy - That's a great buy!

[@chipsterb4946]

Great video! I am casually looking for a rifle chambered in 7mm-08 and came across a used “Hawkeye M77”. As soon as I got home, I did a search and found this perfect exposition on the rifle. It’s a later example without the tang safety and with a black synthetic stock. Not my favorite material - I’m a sucker for nice walnut - but the length of pull and forend fit me nicely. Heck you even addressed the odd (to me) sight mounting system. Thanks!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello - Glad you're on the channel - and the 7mm-08 in the Hawkeye is a fantastic rifle to buy. People are looking at a lot of cartridges these days - but the 7mm-08 in many ways remains superior to them all. All the best.

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Im a lefty and now in my 50's. Ive come to the realization that in the field my Ruger Hawkeye rifles in 270win and 30-06 the ideal bolt action for me. Im thankful i aquired these in left handnwhile they were more available and affordable. Good luck with that today.

[@juliojames5986]

Another excellent,interesting vid. Ruger , one of my favorite arms company’s Thanks 👍🏻🤠

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you!

[@andrewthacker1389]

I have a m77 mkII RSI like the one at the end of the video in .308. Beautiful gun, has awesome bluing, I wish all guns were made with quality like this. It has an 18.5" barrel, but even so I easily get over 2900+fps with 150gr handloads, so I acts like a 22" barrel. I really like the multi position wing safety too. It is the best handling rifle I own hands down. I'd like to find one in .250 savage, but it seems that any of these RSI's are quite expensive on the used market unfortunately

[@aaronwilcox5673]

WooHoo! Ruger 77! I'm a lefty (left handed that is) and the Ruger 77 is my goto bolt action rifle. Thankfully Ruger has offered us lefties some viable choices over the years in the Hawkeye 77 version and I'm extremely grateful I own some. My goto choices out west are my Ruger GSR 308 and the excellent Ruger Hawkeye compact magnum rifle chambered in 338 RCM. Both are compact, powerful, left handed, handle well, and very good value. I'm a big Winchester and Marlin lever action guy but when it comes to bolt actions I typically reach for a Ruger 77 type rifle because it's got controlled feed and design lineage back to the wonderful Mauser design, and how can one go wrong with a left hand rifle with Mauser type properties. Thanks for the presentation on the Ruger 77. Great job as always and hope there's more to come. Hopefully Ruger continues with the 77 series of rifles and folks keep buying them.

[@pauledwards8576]

Thank you for another fantastic video! One of my favorite rifle comparisons

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Paul!

[@michaelcarpenter8591]

I've had a M77 tang in .270 for 35 years, the barrel is finally smoked, and it's currently on it's way back from McGowen as a 25-06. One critical feature difference between the early M77s and the pre-64 (and Mauser, etc.) is the loss of controlled round feed in the M77. The early M77s are a weird hybrid: a claw extractor, but a spring-loaded ejector pin on the belt face (a la M700). I suppose few of us have ever tried to rack a round with a bolt action rifle while it's upside down... it's not very reliable with M700s and early M77s.

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

I love my tang safety .30-06 M77, the only bolt action centerfire rifle I have. It's tough to find an off the shelf .30-06 hunting rifle capable of minute of angle groups, so this one will stay with me clear up until I kick the bucket someday.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That 77 soars - an easy rifle to underestimate and under-appreciate - but such a giant. Bill Ruger was brilliant, determined and made some of the best firearms ever made.

[@danfaller1089]

I like the sako mount and the ruger too ,but the picatinny rail would be great if it was universal .

[@bryanmartin2271]

Very informative and well said

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Bryan

[@elpmettsol]

One of the best channels on YT!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I am humbled - thank you!

[@OldManMontgomery]

I was a youthful teenager in 1964. I do remember some discussions of dubious thought regarding the 'updated' Model 70. I would guess the 'board' or 'executive dictator' of Winchester decided the 'old' version was too expensive to make and the profit wasn't high enough to either justify the production or satisfy the profit and loss sheet (I do not know). So the decision was made to 'cut costs'. Probably also the cost cutters thought the controlled feed was really not needed (and I'm of mixed feelings regarding the function) and the other cost saving features were not that big a deal. Like impressed versus cut checkering. One notes Winchester in 1968 did upgrade the magazine and follower from the stampings of the initial post '64 version. Then in 1992, Winchester again updated the rifle to make it more like the pre-'64. It seems the rifle builders learned from the mistakes of 1964. One notes the actual production of the "Winchester Model 70" has been executed by companies other than Winchester (which has largely ceased to exist in original form) like FN Herstal, Browning and U. S. Repeating Arms Company. Like many things in the corporate world, it gets complicated. I have in my collection a couple Ruger M77, including a 'red recoil pad' (original version), a later version and a rather new Hawkeye. I find the Rugers to be quite satisfactory, accuracy being quite sufficient for any sort of normal hunting - even if not recommended for 1000 yard match work.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Greetings. I inherited a Ruger M77 manufactured in 1970 and it's in decent condition. The main issue I have with it is the bolt release latch/lever. The latch won't pivot to release the bolt. As a matter of fact, it won't budge. I removed the latch assembly and disassembled it. All the parts; the spring, the pins, the bushing and the screw all appear in good condition. I cleaned and lubricated the parts, reassembled the latch and put it back on the receiver but it still wouldn't budge. I think, to avoid this problem, the previous owner just unscrewed the bolt release latch/lever and removed the bolt in order to clean/service the rifle. But I'd like for it to work properly. I even called Ruger, looking to just replace the parts and start off new, but they don't carry parts for that late model M77. I don't really think the parts need replacing, I just got desperate. Are certain parts from the Mark 77 II or the Hawkeye compatible with an M77 manufactured in 1970? To be honest, I can't figure out how the latch is supposed to pivot in the first place. Any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. Be safe and stay healthy! 👍✌

[@Nick-wn1xw]

The release just pivots away from the receiver at the front of the lever. Works like a Mauser 98 in operation but simpler. The only parts are the lever, retaining screw and spring. No reason for it not to pivot.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

@@Nick-wn1xw Thanks, I figured it out. It was all about properly aligning (and maintaining that alignment) the bushing, the screw and the latch, and screwing them back to the receiver carefully. Now the latch pivots without issues. 👍✌

[@dustybowhunter]

Best modern rifle made in my opinion

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hard to disagree Dusty - simply unforgettable.

[@normanmallory2055]

I would agree with you one that choice ..

[@smartacus88]

The Hawkeye is the modern analog of a pre-64 Winchester Model 70. A worthy descendant of the Mauser 98.

[@sunkist3575]

I'm in northern Minnesota. My rifle for whitetail has been a RSI in .308 for about 16 years. It's the same rifle you held up at the video's end. I've joked that I never had the guts to only take one round with me but that's all I've ever needed. Every one who has seen it instantly falls in love with it. I have a Leupold Compact 2x7 on it and it's usually set at 4 power. It will be my grandson's rifle one day.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's it sunkist357. I don't know of a finer carbine than the RSI. We have identical scopes - I find that Leupold so useful and compact - just like the RSI. BTW - had a ownderful vacation on Lake Bemidji - fantastic. Beautiful state too.

[@hillbillyscholar8126]

I admit I had a chuckle over the coyote story. It happens, you just think it happens to the other guy. Great shot by the way, even if it was regrettable.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Perfect note HS!

[@dobypilgrim6160]

Great hunting story! Reminds me of the rancher who asked permission to remove his saddle from the moose hunter's "trophy bull" up in Montana.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hahahaha Doby! Those moose - wearing saddles and hoping to be mistaken for horses : )

[@artsmith103]

There's a wonderful long version of the hunter, cowboy, moose and saddle but I can't find it.

[@algentry1]

Superb rifle in performance, handling, convenient and comfortable to carry all day, I love 'em. My absolute favorite caliber/rifle combination in .243 Winchester. Except for.. maybe...a muzzle Loading southern mountain rifle. For all the same reasons. I am glued to your videos. Thank you.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello Al - You're right - simply superb rifle. Isn't it interesting how much attention other cartridges are getting these days. Meanwhile, the .243 continues to be one of the best of all time; performs out of all proportion to paper ballistics; is easy to shoot - and shoot well. In the real world of deer hunting - which isn't a 900 yard proposition most of the time - a .243 does everything a cartridge needs to. Thanks for being on the channel and all the best.

[@Anschutz270]

I just picked up a Ruger 77 Tang Safety in 30-06 in a trade. My biggest deer I shot with my dad's tang safety 270. Hoping to find a good load for moose.

[@jeffross8400]

The MAIN difference between the original Ruger Model 77 and then the MK II (Hawkeye) is that the original Model 77 was not a true controlled round feed...It was not until the MK II that the actual controlled feed was introduced into the Model 77. You have a great channel, sir.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Jeff!

[@emmettperkins844]

I recently acquired a Ruger 77 II and 6 mm Remington. After taking it apart and putting it back together, I adjusted the floor plate forward and trigger housing rearward. It’s still pretty tight. Is there a certain method or do I need to file down the plate pin a little?

[@greglee6870]

I own two Ruger a early 80's 77 thumb tang .270 fantastic rifle accuracy is spot on also have a Hawkeye in .308 another fantastic accurate rifle Rugers my go too hunting rifle thanks for the video learned stuff about these rifles I never seen before

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You bought well - all versions of the Ruger 77 are superb. The safety on the tang models is an adventure if one takes the stock off and the linkage falls off...but it's still pretty good : ) Cheers.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

I can't think of a single "modern design", and damn few classics, that can hold a candle to the RSI in terms of class. That said, those soulless Ruger American rifles shoot like a house afire.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You're right C.J.

[@pseudopetrus]

I just bought a used Ruger M77, 308, 24 inch heavy barrel, tang safety. It shoots better for me than my Winchester M70 Featherweight. I have to be fair because the Ruger weighs about 9 pounds and the Featherweight come in about 7 lbs (I used my fish scale, so not really accurate). But over time, I have realized that I shoot a heavy rifle much better than a light one... I have cement hands I guess! In any case, while the M77 is not as elegant as the M70, I am so happy to find a rifle that is reminiscent of a Mauser action, with the qualities I was looking for. Here in Canada, M77 don't come up for sale too often. To be honest, the best groups from each of these rifles is comparable, but the M77 gives me tighter groups more consistently, very repeatable. Mike, thanks so much for introducing me to the M77!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

So glad! I have a special place for the 77 - in my vault and in my mind; they are such excellent rifles and there is just about nothing that I don't like about them. I'm glad you have one and a gnat driver at that!

[@billbright1755]

My 77s are tang safety 30/06 Springfield and .243 Winchester. Both scoped and completely workmen like in ability and also quite handsome as well. Can easily hit the gopher size steel silhouette at 400 yards at the range with both. It’s on a spring return and can also hear the impact. Once with a setting sun condition with sun to my back you could see the glint of the bullet trajectory in flight much as a tracer round. My models have one Leupold and one Redfield scopes. One of my prize Rugers is a Number One Tropical in .375 H&H. Scoped and iron sights also. 3X9 Leupold vari x II 50 mm objective. Took 12 Montana bull elk with it before retiring from serious hunting. Not including an elk that my brother and I co - claiming got with my Winchester model 70 A in 30/06 he with a Ruger 77 in .338 Winchester magnum. That bull had 56” between the inside wide part of antlers. He was a granddad bull for sure. My rifle easily fit between his rack. Rock solid reliability and deadly accurate in a handsome powerful firearm. After near seemingly countless hunts short of a slight silver patina on receiver blue she appears as to have never left the gun cabinet. My hand loaded rounds all I ever hunted with. It’s knock down power stopping elk immediately. Range ability very similar to 30/06 with 150 grain projectiles but with a 300 grain punch.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You've got it right. And the #1 in .375 is a universal rifle - and a classic. Thanks for taking the time to write - not many people collected 12 elk! Most people are happy to just see one.

[@nakoawarrior3186]

Great video I didn't know they didn't make the 77 anymore.

[@jakemitchell1671]

thanks for a great video. I've got all these guns and others like them, and IMO the pre-64 70s are over-valued from a functionality and performance standpoint. I believe Winchester and now FN have improved the rifle twice - first with the Classic series in the '90s, and now with the FN reissues. In addition, I do not consider my non-CRF to be inferior to the pre-64s either. Controlled round feed is a fine feature, but never in my 40+ years of shooting has it ever been an issue. As for the Rugers, I really like my M77s, but the tang safely models can be really hit and miss from accuracy standpoint, as a result of various barrel sources, and the Mk IIs have some of the worst triggers in the history of rifle design. The Hawkeyes are an improvement, IMO.

[@markhansen3111]

The very first center fire rifle I ever owned is the Ruger M77 mkII all weather with iron sights in 30-06. I am certain I will be passing it on to someone in my family. It is a fine rifle.