Martin Keown HITS BACK At Graeme Souness For Claiming Wenger Is NOT A 'Football Man' 😱🔥

[@nungiceman]

Whether you like Wenger or not, anyone saying he's not a football man is absolutely stupid and clueless. It's that simple.

[@buruhansundaykyomya9062]

Well said ment

[@miniman2132]

It’s such a bad take, I can only assume that Souness is just bitter because Wenger was a vastly superior manager. Wenger signed George Weah. Souness signed Ali Dia (who wasn’t a footballer) because somebody pretending to be George Weah said he was special. A glass of wine after the game should be reserved for managers, so of course Wenger had no interest in sharing one with Souness.

[@KingJaffeJoffer99]

That was 1 of the worst takes I've ever heard from souness

[@Afro-sport94]

Bergkamp was 27 year old. 😅

[@onelove101unity]

@@LordHighness He also mentioned Bergkamp and said he was 22 at the time, hence the comment above.

[@ctrldelete1763]

Worst one was what he said about Salah

[@robgraham1204]

Souness being a miserable Scottish man Nothing new there

[@Rafaay]

Souness has never been the best anywhere. Never the best at Liverpool, always under Dalglish’s shadow for Scotland too. Dinosaur

[@miniman2132]

It’s not just that, though. Souness was also a terrible manager. Google “Ali Dia” and enjoy.

[@mkkravist11]

Wenger's marriage ended due to his obsession with football. He famously had a bank of tv's set up to watch all televised games. His daughter didn't speak to him for years, such was the fallout from Wenger's true love which was and is football. Not a football man? Ridiculous. Everyone makes mistakes but Wenger has been embedded with football all his life.

[@pavolkrajcovic745]

Yes and also he had an affair with a lot younger woman back in 2008/2009…

[@khhaos865]

@@pavolkrajcovic745my manager ❤

[@Cxdxvnmbhhv]

@@pavolkrajcovic745and he didn’t win much either

[@pavolkrajcovic745]

⁠@@CxdxvnmbhhvWenger was pretty much finished after 2009…

[@robhernandez5520]

​@@pavolkrajcovic745I would love to see Pep manage the players he had to manage and get top 4 every season like he did after the stadium was built. Sometimes you have to put things into perspective or you look really ignorant

[@seancollins7134]

From a West Ham fan Wenger changed English football culture for the better , we owe him a lot .

[@somebody9648]

All this rubbish about Wenger inheriting the so called best French players. Nobody rated them when they played for Arsenal.

[@Charlie-l4p]

Vieria, Henry and Pires were permanent fixtures in the national side, what are you on about?

[@Triple_X_X]

Yet you always slate Pep for "iNhEriTiNg" Barça when in reality they were struggling before him from '06 to '08

[@somebody9648]

@@Charlie-l4p oh come on they weren’t that good.

[@ghettablkgffb]

​@@Charlie-l4pthey were all nobodies before wenger

[@somebody9648]

@@Triple_X_X when did I ever say that!!!

[@RomaineSmith-zk4zt]

Souness is jealous of the great Wenger.

[@spendover]

Silly boy

[@arindambaruah2320]

Sounnes still cries at night because of 89!!! and now taking it out on Wenger and Arsenal at every chance he gets!!!

[@Youngy07]

He won more than wenger

[@mikem8211]

​@@Youngy07As a manager? 😂

[@adamlallana5911]

Why would he be? When he is a legend himself. SMH.

[@agibbo5303]

Souness is a weirdo....The reason he wasn't in the office was because you was in there 😂

[@garykearns2922]

Gudin😂

[@BabsW]

You were*

[@7onymontana]

😂😂😂 spot on

[@jakesy2569]

Simon doesnt ever try to hide his hatred for Keown 😂

[@Afro-sport94]

Comparison failed football owner to Invincible legend unacceptable.😊

[@SugaryGoodnesss]

Keown is a clown, hardly a surprise

[@aqx1545]

Funny how he talks about wenger and superiority when he’s the one that talks down to working class English people

[@D-Gunners1]

Arsene Wenger got lucky? He bought and sold players to help fund a stadium after he dominated English football going unbeaten in a season. THIS IS NOT EVEN A DEBATE!!!!!

[@cmoney4114]

facts, he was on a different mission and still kept us top 4 with some of the best players in world football... imagine him having a proper budget or managing at RM, Sir Alex holds Weneger at a very high level and hes meant to be no 1 best ever manager... its a joke debate

[@warreng5257]

I agree with it all, a part from the bit dominating English football, that bit isn't true. United dominated during that era, Arsenal competed closely with them and sometimes got the better of them. However United more tines than not, got the better.

[@kylegill4932]

@@cmoney4114bob paisley is the best manager the English leagues have ever seen. How many other managers win the league and champions league in their first season as a professional manager again? Pep and Bob have managed in england over the same amount of time now, pep won one European cup, Bob had three lol 🤷‍♂️

[@Youngy07]

Dominated 😂😂😂😂

[@mikem8211]

​@warreng5257 98 - 04 = 3 titles each. In 05 we started building the stadium

[@sam-ze8bz]

Graham gots dementia or something he ain't all there

[@jerryigbinoba9221]

Souness has just managed to get his name mentioned 250 times, which was his objective. Kudos to you Mr football man

[@miniman2132]

This is it, they wanted to get engagement from talking absolute trash.

[@souparnaseth1368]

he has more ucl tham arsenals whole history

[@iama6834]

Souness: he is not a football man Souness: he was never in the office so i dont know if he was a football man 😂

[@goonern4644]

I know football men in the amateur game. They dedicated their lives to playing, coaching, officiating, and scouting. What Souness said about Wenger was personal and he's a coward for not admitting it. If Wenger inherited a back 5 and was successful, he still had to build the rest of the team and the culture at the club and English football. Souness inherited a Liverpool team of greats, and immediately went about destroying it because of his ego. Replaced great players with rubbish over night. Was he a football man when he behaved like a thug on the pitch for Rangers or a coach in Turkey? He's jealous, angry and bitter.

[@irieite9666]

The best centre back pairing in PL history by goals conceded per game were Campbell and Toure believe it or not. They outperformed the inherited CBs like Bould, Adams and Keown

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Weird things to be crying about

[@One_Real_Rush]

Wenger is a 100% football man, a lot of people don’t know this but after a lot of home games, wenger would meet up with one popular deluded fan Arsenal fan to just chat football. During summers wenger is always on radio and tv just talking about football. He stayed at Arsenal for his obsession with the club, when a lot of top managers would’ve left. Pep and Klopp twice left their roles at previous clubs and went on a sabbatical claiming exhaustion. Yet wenger did this for more that 20 years. To say he’s a non-football man is wild!

[@One_Real_Rush]

@@LordHighness 🤦‍♂️ you must be the dumbest mfer ever. The argument, “is wenger a football man,” mean, did he loved the game to the point of making it consume him. Which to you statement being obsessed with space doesn’t make you an astronaut but it makes you a man of space/ appreciate space exploration.

[@SubManifest]

@@LordHighnessso it’s just a quibble with you over the title of “football man”, not anything really substantive. A false equivalence posed as a rhetorical question is not only a weak argument, but in essence, prick-ish.

[@SubManifest]

@@LordHighness nah just going by the rest of your interactions on here

[@peluolababatunde330]

​@@LordHighnessyour comparison is dumb though

[@MyNameIsJeff9074]

First off, Dennis Bergkamp was not 22 years old when Wenger became Arsenal manager, he was 27. Second, are we meant to pretend that the likes of Henry, Vieira, Anelka, Petit, Pires & Wiltord were household names before Wenger signed them for Arsenal? Outside of France, they weren't really known. Both Henry & Vieira signed from Juventus & AC Milan respectively, and had poor, short spells there. Third, Souness' ego (which is huge btw) clearly didn't like that Wenger never shared a glass of wine with him. To suggest he's not a football man because of that is outrageous. I'm pretty sure spending 22 years at the same club, over seeing a move to a brand new stadium, winning multiple trophies along the way, having a marriage break down as a result of your commitment and dedication to your job, and now working for FiFA to try to improve and grow the game well into your 70's, very much makes you a football man!

[@somebody9648]

@@MyNameIsJeff9074 Bergkamp was rubbish anyway

[@Ayah_Mia]

You should write a book about French baguette.

[@MyNameIsJeff9074]

​@@somebody9648Just as rubbish as your ball knowledge evidently

[@Ayah_Mia]

​@@somebody9648I ain't no Gooners but to tell that Bergkamp is rubbish is absolutely bonkers. You should try tennis instead of football. What a 🔔🔚

[@Fbdhdbrbdjxn]

@@somebody9648”Bergkamp was rubbish” 😂said by no one with any level of football knowledge, you autistic little dribley

[@stephenpeters1491]

We had a new back four for the invincibles Lauren, Campbell, Toure and Cole also Jens Lehmann in goal. Not one Frenchman

[@DGeeR]

These days anybody whose social media career is taking a downturn , makes some sort of shocking statement about Arsenal , the club , legends , players , mangers present and past, in a desperate attempt to get themselves back in the spot light .. its pathetic and frankly disgusting .

[@omabdulgani]

Wenger was a football man when he was managing, but he's not one now. His idea for a world cup every two years says it all

[@MyNameIsJeff9074]

To use Graeme's logic, that must mean Pep Guardiola was very lucky too, his 4 years at Barcelona (08-12) coincided with the Spanish national team winning everything on a international stage. 2 x European Championships in 08 & 12 and a World Cup in 2010. So not only was he extremely fortunate to have Spanish players like Iniesta, Xavi, Busquests, Pique, Puyol, David Villa etc, he also had players like Messi, Eto'o, Henry, Zlatan at his disposal... Funny how Souness never mentioned Pep being lucky then... Oh I forgot, Pep created football, therefore we can never criticise the great man...

[@xjkdx]

well, when you put it that way.

[@AlexanderAllen-uu3wh]

Don't forget billions of pound t9 buy super star

[@jamesprentice6214]

Pep was lucky - he is a bang average manager who has relied on referee corruption, whilst inheriting the best squad of all time (Barca), took the easiest job in football (Bayern) and still failed after they won the treble without him and then needed to cheat FFP whilst still getting unlimited money (City) - Guy is a joke................saying all that Souness is well off with his Wenger remarks

[@spendover]

Pep created football? How old are you?

[@LaCheeserie]

@@spendover sarcasm friend

[@albertbrammer9263]

Souness was terrible as Liverpool manager. A 42% win rate. Only Hodgson has a worse record since 1956. Hardly a football man IMHO. Good footballer, but his knowledge of the game is poor.

[@jahmulugu4425]

Well said!!

[@jahmulugu4425]

@LordHighness Arsene Wenger Monaco as player, won bits, Arsene Wenger Monaco as coach did bits, Arsene Wenger atNagoya Grampus he starts a footballing revolution within Asia let alone japan, paving way for later japan Korea to host world cup finals. Sir, Arsene Wenger the Proffessor the coach the Boss, at Arsenal became the mastermind of football, the king pin u hate, the class u cant reach and so despise. And became footballistacally invincible after predicting a year earlier. This is is not just foot ball, he football Genious. The Legend that is Arsene Wenger, Is Football.

[@Red_Anachronism]

​@LordHighness Souness completely destroyed Liverpool as a manager, so much so that it took us 30 years to win a leauge title. He's literally the worst manger we've had recent history. Look at what wenger did for Arsenal and what they achieved, Souness left Liverpool a Legendary player but worst manager. Wenger left Arsenal a Legendary Manager

[@redkem80]

@@LordHighnessHis knowledge as a football manager was shite

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@redkem80He won around a dozen major trophies as manager. What are you talking about? Desperate revisionism

[@ismarcus00500]

Jim ALWAYS turning his head towards SJ for his facial reaction. Grow up wee little man!

[@amobolaji]

Disappointed in Keown! Lauren, Sol Campbell, Toure, Lehman were not inherited. Henry Viera.Pires. Making it sound like he was winning by 1 0 margins so it was all about the defence. Souness is just miserable and Jealous. Beyond the UK not many people know Souness in the football sphere, I cant say the same about Wenger.

[@SALIBAArmy]

Should have asked Arsene about Ali Dia before signing him.

[@olasam3815]

Coming from Souness who can't lace Wenger's boots in every way possible

[@vipstudios8461]

Bitter Bitter old men...... Wenger school them all on the picth & is even more classy off the pitch.... 💯

[@andrewharris4268]

Sourness told us nothing illuminating about Wenger but an awful lot about himself. And I do mean awful. What a sad incomplete little man.

[@kingkorey6526]

Souness deep down is bitter at Wenger's managerial career plan and simple. I'm tired of him on TV and radio these days.

[@abayomiayodeji]

this Arsenal hate is just out of this world

[@Cockermadman]

So the man who turned Henry from a winger into a main striker isn't a football man ,souness is a bitter man

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

What’s so impressive about a winger turning into a striker? It’s a fairly normal route of development in football

[@Stevewontdoit9]

He's THE football man

[@angeloevangelou]

Is this a question Simon Jordan gives. Give it a rest man as for souness where is he coming from saying wenger not a football man. the man changed the English game! What a fool Jordan podcast is. Leave wenger alone the man is a legend! Period

[@MrStardust50]

But it is interesting that once those great players were done, Arsenal were done.

[@aaronbodimeade9685]

Souness goes on like he’s the top dog In football! Your not mate

[@adironi24]

If Wenger is not a football man then who is

[@MrChips91100]

He went 49 games unbeaten with a side he all but completely created 😂 It’s funny, people who lack skill and talent always look at those with it in abundance always reach for the “lucky” accusation.

[@simonoliver8576]

I think that the really sad thing about all of this is that souness has basically been beaten a lot of times by wenger and yet he is not a football man apparently🤣 then again souness never used to talk this much bs when he was on sky sports maybe talk sport just makes people talk bs🤣

[@SwiftGifts-ni6qz]

the back four didn't play for Wenger with the invincibles

[@LambrosLambrou-n9i]

What did Souness achieve as a manager?... nothing - irritating and Liverpool/Spurs biased as a pundit.. 2004 Invincible winning defence was not inherited? The Team was a Wenger team front to back.. Get your facts right Sour-ness

[@garethcullen9604]

At least he isnt a criminal like Souness.

[@KydzPlays]

Sounness is the last person who should be judging football managers.

[@Alimigun]

"A group of young French players". Took Seaman, Bould, Keown, Adams, Dixon, Winterburn, Parlour etc from being ageing drunks to double Double winners. He brought in two young French players: Vieira and Anelka. Bergkamp was 27 coming off an underwhelming spell in Italy and an average first season at Arsenal. Wright was on the way out and barely played in the first double season due to injury. The club was a mess with corruption scandals off the pitch and hadn't remotely challenged for a title since they won it in 1991. He took them from that to being Champions in his first full season - dethroning Ferguson's Man Utd machine. More than that, he laid the foundations and ensured that Arsenal was at the top table when football blew up and went global. But for him they might have had an Everton, Villa or Spurs trajectory rather than being able to ride that wave and now being considered a top 10 club in Europe.

[@KarlFitzgerald-f1v]

Great player souness terrible manger complete failure as a manager the cheek of him , winger was a true footie man

[@MD_ENTERTAINMENT]

I am a United fan, I always suspect that something is wrong with Souness, but he all but confirm it now. For that statement, I think he should lose his job because he sounds ridiculously silly

[@creasicle]

Wenger trusted his players to follow his vision and find their own solutions on the pitch. Over the last 10-15 years football management has become about micromanaging players and giving them very clear, specific instructions. That's just how the game has changed, it doesn't mean Wenger wasn't a 'football man'. Wenger left Arsenal in a terrible mess and I'll never quite forgive him for that but you cannot diminish what he accomplished in the game.

[@dre22]

This is part of the reason why people don’t see him as a pure football man. A pure football man is Alex Ferguson who still goes to every Man United game and lives and breathes football. He opened himself to new methods and ways of working such as modern tactics, video analysis, using stats etc. Wenger was stuck in his ways because he was a narcissist. Look at all the rubbish ideas he keeps coming up with at FIFA. That’s Wenger for the last 10years in football management

[@srirj44]

Bergkamp was in his late twenties and has been poor at Inter when he came to Arsenal.

[@ellleigh1216]

Bob Mortimer’s sketch on Steve White and Simon Jordan is perfect.

[@istvanszabo8698]

Why do they pay for him? Who knows?

[@peterbasra9627]

I like Souness... but don't really agree with him on this one.

[@Thai.Farang]

Arsene Wenger was a fantastic manager. Well said Martin.

[@pauljohnson5925]

Joe Biden, Frankie Valli and now Graham Souness. This elder abuse has to stop.

[@spawklebawkle9037]

All those liverpool people are the same , if he's not one of us he's no good. Sourness ran liverpool into the ground and signed a pizza delivery man at Southampton. Bitter and small to the end

[@Simonblis]

Graham is onto something

[@alomgirhussain488]

Wenger is part of development with FIFA, whilst Souness is a pundit for some poxy podcast. Lol that bum is lucky he was a footballer in the era he was otherwise he would get dealt with in today’s game.

[@roamey]

As a United fan I hated Wenger at Arsenal because he was brilliant in his first 5-6 years, then he was shafted to facilitate a stadium build. The disrespect he gets is ridiculous.

[@jimmymcgregor3900]

I watched a programme about wenger round about the time he was retiring. The respect his ex players showed for him was incredible. To say he's not a football man is like saying fergie knew nothing about winning trophies. It's absurd 😂😂😂

[@stuartclarkson48]

Reeks of jealousy from Souness

[@powerking23]

Souness is entitled to his opinion but there are so many flaws in his opinion it’s unreal he’s come out with it. For a start , Bergkamp was entering his prime years when we brought him and was struggling for form at inter. Although Wenger didn’t buy him , Bergkamp went up levels when Wenger took over. The argument for the back 5 was the fact that he eventually ripped it all up and built a defence that went unbeaten for 49 games 😂.

[@karlm641]

In Premier League terms he's one of the top 5 if not top 3 Managers to work in this country. Baffling from Souness who did very little of note as a manager.

[@joshuacallanan7107]

Wenger was a player, a coach, a manager and now has an important role in FIFA and every now and again partakes in charity events in his 70's but yet hes not a football man.

[@jamieharding8878]

Pure bitterness

[@shahhussain8166]

Why talk about someone truly with an agenda talking nonsense ..

[@bishopjay]

Souness is a bitter old man who hate Pogba and a Wenger, you know what his opinion doesn't count

[@MrSalayi]

This is it. This is the wildest take I've heard on the internet.

[@jasonleon1976]

Cheers Graham 😂

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

22 year old Bergkamp? He was already losing his hair by the time he got to Arsenal. He was about 26/27!

[@dre8463]

Souness clearly has an issue with foreign managers. It's obvious. I remember when Arteta got appointed and he said 'it's like these boardroom people are obsessed with Latin-sounding names. Like there's no good British coaches' on Sky Sports. The host had to redirect the conversation after he said that. Not calling him a bigot but he clearly has issues with them dominating this league.

[@GlastoGeek7]

If a footballing man is managing through fear, intimidation, arrogance and bullying your players then no, Wenger isn't a footballing man Mr Souness. 🤡

[@mohammedbinhamza7612]

Any management student would know that even if an organisation is ready for change, you need a leader and a visionary to realise the change. Wenger was ahead of his times. Rivals caught with him. What he didn't have though was the ability to delegate and invite new ideas (read as stubbornness), which Sir Alex did remarkably well. Nevertheless, he is always going to be papa Wenger for gooners. I cried for the man when he left even though I desperately wanted him to leave.

[@bojack3827]

Don't know how Souness can criticise other managers when he was such as disaster of a manager himself. Ask the players that played under Wenger - they all loved him, and all pick him every day of the week as manager over Souness.

[@MaliciousAFC90]

The Arsenal back 5 were not one of the best in English football at the time. They were alcoholics who were way past their best already. Wenger brought life into their careers and all of them said he probably extended their careers by 3-4 years. The back 5 of the Invincibles were all Wenger signings, aside from one academy player in Ashley Cole. Souness is just such a bitter old man, I’m surprised he didn’t mention Pogba in his ramblings.

[@velouris76]

OK there’s having an opinion, and there’s times when someone’s opinion is coming out of their backside…and this is the case of Sourness here… 1. Bergkamp was 26/27 when Wenger joined, not 22… 2. At the time Wenger arrived, the general opinion in the media was that most of the back five were over the hill, and a mass change was needed at the back… Wenger had the brains to see they weren’t past it, and actually lengthened their careers… 3. The French market of players: Wenger saw the opportunity to get the best… 4. And…let’s ask Sourness about his time at Liverpool… I mean, he was pretty lucky there: inheriting a strong squad, at a club that had finished in top two in the previous nine seasons before he joined, actually finishing first in most of those seasons… I mean, he was a total success there right???….oh wait!!!

[@brendonthomas2555]

I'm very disappointed that Graeme Souness didn't somehow link that Paul Pogba being French adversely affected Wenger's football manliness!

[@Leogunner2]

Doesn't everything fall into place for all clubs that win. Luck is a given. What you do with it separates you. Wengers success was because he is a football man. It was about the game and nothing else. Whilst Souness valued having a drink and a chat after the game, Wenger would be watching games and learning and preparing and that's not luck.

[@joshuanarde3983]

People don’t understand what sacrifices are for the greater good of a club. Give your life to something and lose yourself in it. The whole bring global stars to the PL was taught to the premier league by Arsene wenger

[@dre22]

Maybe Souness didn’t articulate this well but tactically Wenger was clueless.

[@mattgaskell945]

Souness should be sacked after this.

[@samwest8042]

Headed the ball one too many times.

[@kranestyles2529]

Let's not be dumb about this. A.N.Y.O.N.E. who knows the history of Arsenal during that time knows that the French players who arrived in the 90's were "good" (and generally played in different positions from what made them famous... Henry, Petit, Pires). Wenger made them GREAT!!! Then you have the others Wenger nurtured (Cole, Parlour, Kanu, Vieira, Overmars...). Then you have those he rejuvenated (Adams, Keown, Wright, Bergkamp, etc.). GIMME A BREAK! 🙄

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

I think of all the people, Keown is probably best placed to give the most accurate opinion of Arsene

[@MD_ENTERTAINMENT]

Souness considered himself a football man, but what did he do with Newcastle in 2004, when he had a lot of experience as a manager. He was eventually kicked to the curbs after a disastrous time with some expensive signings. Only 36 wins in 83 games, but him called himself a football nan, but claimed Wenger isn't😂🤦🏿

[@myview2543]

If wenger isn’t a football man I don’t know who is

[@ismarcus00500]

Dont give Souness anymore time on media platforms. He's so salty. Needs to grow up !

[@Michael-ff4pq]

I actually agree!! Nothing wenger has done since retiring suggests he's a football man. He seems to hate football and wants to change it

[@dre22]

I don’t think he hates football but he is stuck behind the times and has outdated views about football, tactics, playing the percentage game, video analysis etc. Tactically he is clueless about the modern game.

[@Robmc0381]

Inherited the best back 5? That same back 5 that hadn't won a league in 7 years and cane bottom half the year before wenger joined? GS is a tool, anyone can see that

[@mchukdez]

WTF is a football man? He alluded to playing at the highest level. Mourinho didn’t play at the highest level, so is he not a football man? Waste of airtime and space!

[@garethsmith8896]

Arsene got lucky!FFS,Sounds&Morgan no nowt about football!

[@kman8700]

Souness is off his rocker

[@dre22]

Arsenal Wenger splits opinion so much because he lost his principles after 2006 and became a self appointed financial accountant.

[@davidmarks7728]

Souness is still bitter about 1989.

[@Carpediem_76]

Graeme clueless.

[@craigbellamy7428]

He went a whole season unbeaten ... how can you say lucky

[@isaacnewton3514]

This is why they kicked Souness out of Sky Sports

[@marekfalk5369]

if bad decisions as a coach means you are not a football man, what does that make souness?

[@ulunjisichinga3205]

Lol the guys doesn’t know what he is talking about his lost simple.

[@denzel1989]

Sourness ruined liverpool tore up the team kenny built and ruined us for years by doing that

[@matthewmacini1773]

Why do people listen to sourness?

[@MorapediMpai]

Souness is just salty because Wenger never rated him as a coach nor as a person

[@denzel1989]

Qengers arsenal played the nicest football I've ever seen ,other teams were better in ways but to watch i use to love to watch wengers arsenal , go back and watch them unreal

[@shimeymerih]

Bitter and sad Graeme Sounes would never be good enough to tie Wenger's shoes. Absolutely one is the greatest manager of modern football and this bitter man says he's not a football man..😂 Delusional !!