😲 Martin Keown & Michael Owen react to VAR audio after Luis Diaz's disallowed goal vs Spurs!

Martin Keown and Michael Owen share their thoughts after listening to VAR audio released by PGMOL following Tottenham's controversial win against Liverpool.
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[@jamesbishop4635]

There would have been no "transparency" if Liverpool hadn't demanded it.

[@12laus]

They release them regularly on a programme called Match Officials Mic'd Up. With so much furore about this decision, I'm guessing they would've released it on there anyway.

[@jamesbishop4635]

@@12laus Somehow I doubt that. Not a good look for them.

[@userzed]

​@@12lausTheres only been a couple of episodes.....and the audio was not released this rapidly. Full var audio should be available live.....that is the only way to ensure accountability.

[@TheCollinder]

If that had happened to tottenham, it wouldn't have happened, I don't think

[@marksith6550]

@@TheCollinderTissue?

[@buzzneil]

This has been coming since day one due to the sheer arrogance of PGMOL. They have been unwilling to take on board proven tried and trusted methods used in other sports that have already ironed out these errors and created clear process. Rugby league is a great example. The very first thing the ref does in a clear concise manner is communicate the on field decision. The video referee then does his thing all the while describing what he’s doing and his thought process as to whether the on field decision is overruled and why he’s doing so or the reasons why he can’t overrule the on field decision. This all happens in a calm controlled manner instead of this rushed mayhem we see here. Also the very fact that they know they’re mic’d up in rugby league surely adds an extra degree of responsibility to make the right decision via a clear transparent thought process. The sad thing is that PGMOL already employ one of the best former rugby league referees, Phil Bentham as a VAR coach but clearly do not allow him enough influence. He’d have this nonsense sorted in no time

[@randomdaveUK]

Well said 👏👏 100% right. It's true arrogance to not adopt superior systems

[@moeessa23]

I agree 99%, i would add that they say they rush var because of fans but if fans see the var it becomes part of the show and builds suspense not confusion

[@mongoose9594]

Just made exactly the same comment on another site. Absolutely spot on! Clear transparency to all in the stadium instead of a veil of mystery, cover up and, apparently, deceit! PS, I’m neither a pool or spurs fan, but I do love football and this is ruining it!

[@languageoffootball]

They should have 3 VARs so that there can be a clear majority and maybe the third can do the final VAR check. Only issue is anything extra added probably means more time and rugby for example can seem to take a while to get the verdict and that doesn’t matter as much because of its nature, but in football it’s main beauty is its rhythm 🎉and flow.

[@captainwin6333]

Rugby people are intelligent and educated, people in and around football are generally uneducated and thick. Most foreign footballers speak better English than most British footballers.

[@JackCh91]

Gotta give props to Liverpool for having the balls to go at them and make this public, it’ll only make the game and reffing better for everyone going forward and give other teams the courage to call them out.

[@keithvandermotten9715]

Thank goodness that at last a major error happened against a big team in a big game, so that all media and the wronged team were influential enough to call it out. Brighton we’re severely wronged last season..twice. Nothing happened and they hardly even made a fuss.

[@usernameloading4695]

@@keithvandermotten9715they should’ve made a fuss!

[@m140i_james]

@@keithvandermotten9715 More fool Brighton for just accepting it then?

[@qazwsxedc964]

All Liverpool fans want, is a fair football game for everyone, no matter win or lose.

[@N4t4Iy3]

Last year Liverpool had the most wrong VAR decisions in their favour (5points). Where were they to defend the truth? Nowhere. This is just hypocrisy from a club that isn't used to being robbed...

[@xmryeofuren]

Liverpool should sue them.

[@smithofsmiths1872]

I think that's exactly what they're thinking of doing. "Considering our options" is basically what Americans say when they're about to sue someone. And Liverpool have American owners.

[@redletterl78]

Sue them for what? I’m a Liverpool fan and feel as outraged as the next, but I don’t see what the club will gain from court action 🤷‍♂️

[@smithofsmiths1872]

I think it's more a way of making them accountable. @@redletterl78

[@hayz1313]

​@@redletterl78loss of earnings, if they finish outside champions league spots by 3 or less points then the incompetence has cost them upwards of £50mill. Additionally it'll put pressure on VAR to either be scrapped (hopefully) or at least ammended.

[@lukelocks9083]

@@redletterl78 So what will LIV/any PL club gain if they do what they've done for 4yrs, shut their mouths and take this atrocious VAR decisions forever?

[@danielwebb8402]

Couldn't they just speak in english / football language? "Goal" or "Onside" Rather than "Check complete" and "Protocol".

[@bobpadok5331]

It would be only goal or offside...onside may sound like offside

[@alastairsaint8723]

They are a bunch of robots.Why the guys saying can't do anything can't do anything

[@hayz1313]

​@@alastairsaint8723agree 100% they should have had the minerals to do the right thing & they'd be looked upon in a much better light than they are now. They KNEW it was a mistake and they didn't pull the play back, ridiculous

[@bazmassey]

This is what i thought too. Its all jargon why cant the on pitch team say 'on pitch team say offside, VAR review and advise....' 'VAR says onside' ok goal

[@jaymichaelbolton]

The real mistake was not informing the on-field ref immediately and allowing him to decide to stop the match. On-field refs bring back play constantly for free-kicks to be retaken and will stop play to check a possible penalty. It's absolute nonsense and incompetence that Darren England could in no way in form the on-field ref of the error until half time. Fire Darren England immediately. He has forfeit his privilege of being a referee in the prem. That is inexcusable. This was entirely his doing.

[@OrcaT-j1y]

The real mistake was the ref on the ptich not actually checking with VAR what the result of the check was. He just heard check complete' then made an assumption and resumed play!

[@bobpadok5331]

If ref make fatal error..he should be stopped...var refs should be around fourth ref and not so far away of everything..

[@Grampz_]

There are loads of examples of them pulling the matches back if var have seen something e.g. United getting a penalty after the FINAL whistle against Brighton. So when they want to bring things back, they can.

[@CollideWithTheSlope]

They only offer that kind of privilege to Manc clubs, more so if that club plays in red and has a devil on their badge

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

Why is it nonsense to suggest conspiracy. Now im not saying thats what tgis is but its nonsense to dismiss that option. Barcelona this week have been charged for paying refs…… Juventus have been caught doing this also….. Boxing has been corrupt….. So why is it nonsense to suggest the prem refs can not be got at. Ironic this never happens to man city on the league while pmgol have apologised to liverpool 3 times and arsenal when they were closr to city

[@Rockydenzel]

Not at all the audio even supports that in a odd way it’s not blatant but I genuinely see the England guy acting the deaf bafoon on purpose to come across as a human who made a mistake but knew along it was a goal it was given as offside he knew what they were checking for and he knew once comms went off with the ref after he said check complete if he acted the fool just until the free kick was taken they couldn’t go back . Then we can go into all the 13cards but it’s pointless . I genuinely feel this is corrupt

[@seshadhri_s]

"Anyone that's got a heart feels for them" No Michael. We all have hearts but we cannot feel for people who blatantly flout open communication. We can empathise with the on-field ref making mistakes because they have to make split-second decisions. But cannot do it with VAR people who don't communicate crucial decisions properly despite having all the technology

[@colin7225]

Jesus he realy said that? I'm not even going to watch this, he spouts some garbage.

[@davidsmithy123]

yeah. Michael Owen the man u player. Showing his true colours. Disgusting.

[@benzo9059]

Can confirm I don't feel for them. At all.

[@OrcaT-j1y]

The on pitch ref is as much to blame, if not more as he is the one im control of the game and ultimately the one making the call on the pitch. He just heard 'check complete' and made an assumption and resumed play! All he had to do was confirm the result of the check with VAR before allowing play to resume.

[@hellohi1445]

@@OrcaT-j1yno way ur blaming Simon hooper for VAR getting it wrong. He literally delayed the game for like a minute. How much longer does he want lol? Even if he confirmed it, they would’ve said yes. They were convinced but only after like 7 seconds they realised that they were wrong.

[@anthonylee3311]

The VAR ref didn't even notice that they were starting again from a free kick!! he had to be told!!

[@oldschool8330]

Too busy watching the Ryder cup!

[@OrcaT-j1y]

The ref on the pitch is as much to blame. He shouldnt have restarted the game until he confirmed with the VAR official what the result of the check was. He just heard 'check complete' and made an assumption!

[@muhannad3486]

​@@OrcaT-j1ythe VAR said:"checking the OFFSIDE" then check complete in game ref is not at fault here

[@mranderson8670]

They say they can’t stop the game literally after 10 seconds of realising the mistake but they can give a penalty for United after the full time whistle has gone and everyone in the changing room

[@RralRonaldo]

Irrelevant to bring up something that happened in the past. Rules change frequently. This season united have been quite unlucky with var decisions

[@tomwilko7841]

Well it's also a different scenario as, crucially, play had not restarted as it was end of the game...its this 'cannot go back if play has restarted' line in the sand that is absolutely baffling to everyone...why the hell not??

[@frankelforever14]

​@@RralRonaldoyou forgetting the assault in the last minute against Wolves 🤔

[@ChocolateMilk..]

@@RralRonaldo VAR decisions are not down to luck - that's the point of VAR. Man U has never been much on the downside of VAR decisions overall.

[@philipmarsden7104]

Yes, but THAT was Manchester United. An incident like that on Saturday between Spurs and Liverpool wouldn't happen to them, Howard Webb would never permit it, and Darren England knows it. A delay WAS permissible for no one would care, just the will to do so was missing. It is so rare and so blatant, that the minimum the Premier League should do is issue Liverpool a point and substract 2 from Spurs to correct the matter.

[@mickyjohno19]

It's not Michael Oliver, it was Oli Kohout (VAR Hub operations)

[@alanbarker4049]

Michael it shouldn't have taken 4 days to get the Audio out there.....PGMOL trying to defend the indefensible and protect there integrity😂😂😂😂😂an absolute disgrace.minimum should be Howard Webb stepping down

[@DianeLFC]

I've got a heart and I do not feel for the VAR team. They dithered and flapped after their error then bottled it.

[@dannycrotch5188]

And they broke Mo Salah going for the record of goals and assists. So many permutations on the line.

[@elvarus]

Darren England missed the linesman flagged for offside. He missed Luis Diaz didn’t celebrate. I think everyone who watched the game saw that. He missed VAR on the screen it said ‘checking for offside’ and when tells he made a mistake and to stop the game he brushes it off and says ‘we can’t do anything ‘ . This isn’t human error. This is something more

[@mattbrunei3970]

He got bribed

[@KeepingWatchUK]

It’s human error. Nothing more.

[@TheRascalHasSpirit]

They really made a mess of VAR. A rule like the coach’s challenge in the NFL would easily fix the problem.

[@CollideWithTheSlope]

The thing is english refs don’t like to be challenged and the PGMOL don’t believe they are also prone to mistakes and bias just like any other human beings

[@steparko23]

I've always said this. Each coach should get 1 challenge flag for each game and can throw it whenever they like 😂 Obviously, they'd definitely use it late in games to time waste, but that's just the way it goes.

[@nickwoodward819]

or, just state their decision unambiguously? "off"/"on" "goal"/"disallowed". Why would we need a coach's challenge when part of the reason for this shambles is the desire to have these decisions sped up?

[@nimay13]

@@steparko23 time wasting isn't an issue now. They'll just extend injury time like they did on GW2.

[@yoshimitsu8643]

Notice how all these media channels are criticizing this situation lightly. Almost like they are defending them. And there is a vary catchy statement almost every media says “they are human. They make mistakes. this will be improved. In the future it won’t happen” Almost like there’s a common interest between these two outlets. VAR is also a business run with huge investment behind it.

[@realistic_holder1571]

It will not happen...for man city.

[@simisosiphesihledlomo7671]

I'm tired of these referees being defend by FIFA but players get punishment if made mistakes. They need to held accountable as well.

[@jaybagley5464]

We should be hearing audio live there should be complete transparency

[@shellsbignumber2]

They just ended up confusing each other, too many people were talking and no one was really listening.

[@gitfitz2028]

When they are drawing the lines it says top of screen checking disallowed goal which means they know its disallowed it doesn't say checking possible offside are we all missing that part . Only Language that should be used is they are lying its clear for everyone to see.

[@Robert-ks5ix]

Spot on but the media was always going to do this and paint it as a big mistake, was clear as day corruption from the var official

[@bl4ckkn1g8t5]

Let's be clear, contrary to the media and referee lies, the rules of the game does allow them to stop the game and go back. The rules clearly state once the game has been restarted they cannot go back and review an incident. This would not be a review, it would be correcting a decision due to poor communication. They perfectly knew the the rules but rigged it to disallow the goal. VAR can be heard saying offside, when it was clearly onside. Two of them in that room, why isn't one of them watching the game? The ref is also at fault for not getting clarification. Heads need to roll.

[@ChocolateMilk..]

Investigate their UAE trip. Also, VAR was introduced to the game exactly for that purpose - to fix matches. There's way too much money in Football to not control it and manipulate it. It has always been happening. To think the fans are that stupid to believe it's a clean game is crazy. There's no billion dollar industry on this Earth that is not completely corrupted, so why are Football fans so stupid? Same with the immense transfer sums - it's money laundering, just like "charity" foundations.

[@ChocolateMilk..]

They had no problems with correcting their decision for Man U against Brighton in declaring a penalty after the final whistle. - Howard Webb working as intended.

[@joeltan2726]

i think we have to question the on field ref on this also. Once VAR said check complete, he immediately restarted the game within like 2 secs. like come on, cant u ask again for comfirmation or wait for the VAR to say check complete, its a goal/onside?

[@alinajafi4038]

Sack Howard Webb, Simon Hooper, Darren England. English media should stop protecting this PGMOL boys club.

[@abdolrezamalek6875]

Operator was watching the game but why werent the two muppets who were suppose to watch werent

[@d.s.5157]

Sounds like they were distracted by other things 😂!

[@melvynwhite5129]

Still suffering from jet lag .

[@larrymulryan5305]

Happy for the Spurs fans 100% but all joking and club bias aside, lets hope it changes the whole way VAR is conducted.

[@vinniedixon1140]

How is it that VAR worked so well in the 2018 World Cup yet 5 years later in the Premier League nobody still has a fkn clue how to use it and implement clear rules?

[@bobpadok5331]

Britain struggled for decades to make mix of cold and warm water to give people proper showers...when i came to ladbrokes in UK twenty years ago from abroad i couldnt believe bets are made with pens😁👍

[@Fritz973]

Prem in their arrogance developed their own mind boggling version where the ref dosn't go straight to the pitchside monitor.

[@me4374]

Keown is precious, the irony of “it’s an issue over incompency”

[@darnelcasanova583]

sorry not to me to me there is one guy who tells them to delay many times but they refuse to listen to him and thats why it became to late because they did not listen to the guy that is not a mistake its a choice and they decided to hide by the rule because they knew what they were doing because they were told in real time so no mistake and Howard Webb has to go Man U got it restated but Liverpool cant after 10 seconds real fair these people are

[@clarkandy2411]

It’s about communicating effectively. Look at other sports which make it clear what the on field decision is like cricket “the on field decision is” is clearly stated every time. Simple

[@oldschool8330]

Yup and tennis too for Hawkeye “the ball was called out” etc

[@LambofGodKnock]

After the full time whistle at a Man Utd game, they brought it back for a penalty. They can of course bring it back.

[@Gchild2k6]

1) They should replay the game 2) They need to put in a rule to 1)state what check complete means and 2) that VAR can always stop the game within 5 mins of an incident if they got it wrong and just add the extra time at the time. BETTER TO DELAY PLAY AND GET THE DECISION RIGHT THAN KEEP PLAYING WITH A FARCICAL DECISION.

[@spurs7151]

There's no chance this would happen. You'd have to do it for all the games where there were mistakes. And why should Spurs be punished? Why should their players have to play another 90 minutes and risk injury etc? And what about all the people who paid money to see the game? The game is complete and in the history books with all the other games ever played. Mistakes were made and lessons need to be learned.

[@admaga]

Just copy from rugby...there is very clear communication. eg: try or no try? Onfield decision try, is there any reason to change that decision? etc. It's a matter of clarifying the communication.

[@ianbarrand6403]

Some of the language was congratulating themselves! What a mess

[@kanatskakov]

“Check Complete” is absolutely inconclusive and needs to be prohibited in their protocol. Much clearer language like “Decision: No Offside” or “Decision: Offside Confirmed” must be used. VAR officials should have no problem to stop the game if there is a misunderstanding. Their loyalty should be to the integrity of the game and not to any VAR protocol.

[@SoundofGugu]

Well said. They raised exactly the points that need to be addressed. Well done lads

[@jamezday]

Loved the bit where they played the actual audio instead of talking about it

[@ismith9826]

this s corruption!!! The var boss is the only one insisting on disallowing the goal ! The same person who is on the pocket of the Uae 🇦🇪! A criminal investigation is required !!

[@SuperRobertballard]

'Oli' was not Michael Oliver but the CEO of VAR.

[@robertcolan-oleary1677]

Everyone should be sacked, result scratched and replayed later in the year.

[@likhith587]

Just look at how professional and elite - Rugby, Hockey Refereeing is. Even cricket umpiring is so professional and precise. There are barely any howlers in these sports. But football on the other hand, its just shameful how bad it is

[@sydney507]

Oli was VAR hub executive NOT Michael Oliver the 4th official. Please TNT do your research.

[@BuyOneGetOneFree]

The only positive here is that the video guy was able to give a confirmation screenshot of not offside in just a few seconds... All we need now is for VAR officials to be given lessons in how to say 'Not offside' to the referee....!!

[@MTMXBL]

they need younger and more technically adept people in charge of the VAR - not these old heads who have transitioned from the field into the VAR room.

[@doctornov7]

Man United beat Brighton in 20/21 when a penalty was awarded after the final whistle had gone.

[@bigdoggtheinfamousone9300]

Was that the full audio or just the parts that they wanted us to hear? Corrupt.

[@surjsha2853]

Isn’t it a coincidence that the two main culprits for the incident are the same individuals who officiated in UAE. Who also have a higher status in power and authority than those who did try to rectify the mistake… very suspicious 🤨

[@abelinolopez1957]

The problem is not the problem. The corruption in that room is the problem.

[@sanmateoflights]

The fact that they did not rescind the red card for Jones and did nothing to correct the offside shows that the PGMOL do not understand the game. The referees need to go by the SPIRIT of the game and not the LETTER.

[@multitrackers9599]

if this happened on the last day of the season, and resulted in a team being relegated, or missing out on the title, the game would have to be replayed.

[@malefanemalefane5241]

Primer league officiating is circus..

[@andinimegawati5389]

The VAR recording of Diaz's goal has come out, 1 important thing about the VAR interruption of the yellow card for Curtis Jones, it turns red, if that is also broadcast we can think that VAR is indeed against Liverpool

[@paulmartin9194]

They didnt need to stop the game. The ball went out of play for a throw in for 27 seconds

[@gamaloun4442]

Do we really have to tell them to say "check complete its Offside"? are they clueless?? I mean any one that has half a brain would think thats logical. what are these incompetent people doing in that room anyway? come on! i cant believe they don't have standard calls. its so so dumb.

[@MTMXBL]

"check complete, happy!... but it wasn't, was it?". lol, brilliant.

[@JoeSmith-u7c]

Micheal Oliver was trying to stop the game because he’s one of the only decent refs and that’s what he would of done used common sense

[@TheGreatVivek7]

Liverpool can claim millions in damages. That’s easily 50 million upwards if those 3 points would cost them the title or the top 4. I have never seen a more straightforward case. They should sue the league and also Sky for protecting the referees by not showing replays, or addressing there was an error before the halftime whistle.

[@CANDIDPRO]

It is a mistake and mistake can be sued. Lfc please sue PGMOL !!!

[@tonic711]

When the video operator said "Oli said to delay", that wasn't Michael Oliver, its Oli Kohout the VAR Hubs Executive.

[@TWOScottRage]

They needed the full 90 minutes of audio from that game. Ive never seen so many decisions go in one teams favour in a match before.

[@Robert-ks5ix]

Why is the media peddling this mistake bullshit? The pgmol went into that game to make sure Liverpool didn't win. The VAR knew the linesman had flagged for offside, this isn't a mistake, this is either corruption or incompetence of the highest level, and regardless of what it is they should have been sacked yesterday!

[@kevingooriah3759]

Man utd Brighton did go back some years back for a penalty after final whistle...

[@Wasimidrees]

Is 100% robbed what a shame in football history

[@HammerNail-f9m]

The only way to solve this mistake is to give the Goal to Liverpool, re-call the game at 2-2 and each team should take a point.

[@daviel1005]

I don't ever want to hear again that something was definitely onside or offside 'because it's been checked by VAR.'

[@stannats2637]

VAR needs to be binned - get technology for offside & goal line technology

[@user-tg6vq1kn6v]

The sound of corruption. Overt corruption? Maybe not, but the VAR officials were in UAE 48 hours before this match moonlighting. Corrupt? Can we rule that out?

[@Misty-dr4mb]

Raises more questions. Liverpool fc should keep digging. The Var operator could not have been watching the game or jet lagged which also means he is not fit to the do the job on the day so integrity does come into it for me.

[@DeepLove24x7]

8 errors made for 1 decision by VAR official 1. Did not see Diaz stopped celebrating 2. Did not see the Assistant ref raised the flag for offside 3. Did not hear the linesman say “Delaying, delaying, flagging for offside” 4. Said Check Complete instead of Onside 5. Did not see the onfield ref signal subsequently Offside 6. Did not see the free kick being taken instead of a start from center 7. Did not think anything was wrong even when the operator immediately said “delay, delay the game” 8. Did not communicate the mistake to the onfield ref and make him possibly find a solution The Assistant VAR committed these 8 errors too 16 errors for 1 single decision!

[@arctic_2911]

VAR clearly knew the on-field decision was OFFSIDE. He said, 'Checking the offside,' and NOT 'Checking for offside' as soon as Diaz's shot went in. He was clearly checking if the on-field offside decision was correct or not. He knew it had been given offside. The problem here is the way VAR communicated with the on-field referee after he completed the check. He simply just said, 'Check complete, check complete,' which obviously implies to the onfield referee that the onfield offside decision was OK. And then, the referee had already quickly restarted the game with a FK for Spurs.

[@joestockton7016]

Does corruption exist? Does corruption exist in sports? Has there ever been investigations into Premier League clubs for avoiding certain FFP rules? Are there ongoing investigations? Are Barcelona under investigation for ref payments? YES is the answer to all of the above, corruption exists; which is why under the circumstances it is not unreasonable to question the integrity and motivations of every referee involved in the Liverpool vs Spurs game. Corruption is the most likely cause of these “mistakes”.

[@Stuart-d1b]

The real problem is that > 40% of refs were born in or currently reside in the greater Manchester area.

[@chrisbirmingham5132]

It's a massive issue of integrity - not personal integrity but the integrity of the sport. If this is a wholly exceptional event, as everyone now seems to be concluding, then it needs an exceptional response from the league. Either the score should be changed to the "real" result of 2-2 or the match should be replayed.

[@alastairsaint8723]

I agree the match result should be voided.Dont seem to live in that kind of world anymore now.

[@Squadron_Bodron]

Lol it’s not wholly exceptional at all.

[@mrsnrub282]

This happens literally all the time in football

[@TheSm1thers]

​@@mrsnrub282 When does it happen that a ref says the wrong decision by mistake and fails to correct themselves?

[@effigy06]

Good process boys

[@jefffoster7105]

Wasnt Michael Oliver doh 😂. It was a Var executive called Olly who was telling them to delay and they said COMPUTER SAYS NO !! Little VAR Britain. YNWA

[@mar2406tube]

VAR saw goal score line was 0-0 and they thought the goal was given ?!!!!

[@myscubamentor]

Keown and Owen 😂 what a combo. Bluckbuster 😂

[@aran7teen]

Exactly it. The communication is so vague and downright sloppy. It sounds like a couple of lads having a meeting down the pub rather than an elite level of sport.

[@qazwsxedc964]

There was no miscommunication nor mistake, the decision not to inform Simon Hopper was intentional, and Darren England has to be investigated.

[@daibonehead]

They need to formalise the language. It's all too matey.

[@chriscummo1976]

They are Humans... of course, and Klopp said this right after the game, Sky just stealing it. BUT they are not the on-field ref. They are say drinking a nice cup of Yorkshire in a room full of TV's... How have they missed Diaz NOT celebrating!!!?? Funny how it 'Humans' when refs but players and managers should be angelic and robotic when decisions go against them. Double standards.

[@HoldemHustle]

What if Diaz was offside but the flag didn't go up... would we get given the goal? Highly doubt it

[@deka727]

He would have said offside in this case, not “check complete”

[@bulgarianboy87]

Howard Webb can hand in his resignation if he doesn't want to have to give it :)

[@3chords490]

Remember one thing. Without VAR the goal would have been given offside anyway and everyone would just be saying that the linesman got it wrong but “ these things happen “ .

[@pepmasters-999]

They followed the rules. It's an imperfect outcome, but the errror entirely resides with not knowing the on-field decision was offside. Once play restarted they were screwed, because the rules say at that point, whatever was given can't be changed.

[@ginomoujik8488]

He did say "On" which wasn't transcribed..

[@brownmoney27]

How do we know that's the genuine audio?

[@ClemScramblehead]

All theatre

[@Sreeve94]

This is the first time I’ve ever agreed wholly with Michael Owen

[@Ishouldstudy69]

So the issue is that “on-side” sounded like “off-side”? Just say “green and red, goal or no-goal, goal stands or goal disallowed” or some other code words that can’t be confused! Surely it’s not that difficult.

[@junioradult6219]

At least oli strait up tried to stop it even knowing it went against the rules. Nobody feels for var, if anyone in there job messed up that bad they would be fired

[@Jwizza240]

Garry Neville protecting his bar mates by saying it would be a terrible idea to pursue the issues from liverpools side

[@Paperscarps]

The problem is that apparently there's no clear and fixed steps or protocol to apply. The incompetency is one thing but I think the faulty procedure and lack of clear communication is the major issue.

[@tomw4322]

The assistant VAR was trying to insist it was offside even after looking at it! Integrity? Pah

[@Madoxize]

Look what Antony Taylor and the VAR did at the Porto Barcelona game in the Champions League! This is getting from embarrassing to ridiculous

[@salamamostafa8549]

The game needs to be replayed. PERIOD

[@bz5718]

Once the replay operator points out the error and Var chooses not to correct it, this human error is no longer human and actually becomes technical error. What in the world are they talking about here? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤯

[@kjetilknyttnev3702]

Somehow people believe it will get better. It's been the story of VAR in England since it started. They will keep making these mistakes again and again. Start spending serious money training proper VAR technicians immidiately, and keep ref's and former players out of the VAR room completely. And for Gods sake, make this transparent NOW, with live feed audio. Best way to keep the people using VAR honest and open, and give the fans peace of mind.

[@robday2007]

audio still doesnt clear up what they were doing prior to the goal. must have been having a chat about what to eat for dinner for them all to miss the offside flag

[@crypt1c_dr518]

"That's just a big human error" Wasn't the point of VAR to correct human errors?

[@ptbot3294]

Howard Web should have aired everything immediately and without Liverpool having to ask.

[@KEKEKEBOOM]

Goals are definitely not restarted from next to the 18 area, that’s when VAR should have notice something wrong. 2 seconds and stopped the game again. We wouldn’t have wanted to hear this audio because it would have been the correct decision then.